The Fox Hollow Murders: Playground of a Serial Killer (2025) s01e04 Episode Script

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[producer] This is kind of
a groundbreaking moment
'cause you've never
shown your face on camera.
[person 1] I have done silhouette.
Never before a face-to-face interview
with the camera.
[producer] Why now?
[person 1] There was a time
when people were alive.
Had something to be afraid of.
Now it's been 30 years.
It doesn't bother me anymore.
So, uh, hello, everybody.
This is Mark Goodyear.
He reaches down with the hose from behind
and puts it around my neck.
There's a lot of missing pieces
to Mark's story.
[person 2] His story has changed
from different interviews.
He's added things
that he didn't add before.
[person 3] That story that he once told
about how he got away wasn't true.
[Mark] I spent a lot of years
trying to convince people of a story.
Okay? There was one point when I said,
"Oh, fine, fuck it. I was attacked!"
That makes no sense.
None of this makes any sense.
Answer the riddle.
Not an accomplice. Not a victim.
Never attacked.
What am I?
[producer] Everything we know
about this case
- Mm-hmm.
- comes from you.
Absolutely.
[producer] Absolutely what?
Everything you know about this case comes
from me. You just said that.
I agreed with you
by saying the word 'absolutely.'
Where are you confused?
Okay. [laughs] I'm sorry.
When I say 'absolutely,' I mean yes,
everything that you know
about this case comes from me,
I realize that, I am aware of that.
[person 1] I've always wondered
whether Mark Goodyear
knew more than what he was saying
or is he really just another
innocent victim and the one that got away?
Mmm.
Now, let me tell you a very,
very interesting story. Okay?
[theme music playing]
[person 1] In February of '97
after Mark Goodyear did an interview
with A&E for a documentary
police heard information
they hadn't before from Mark.
Herb insinuated to me that
he had killed between 50 and 60 people.
He knew the method of death.
These are human remains.
Right now, we are
[Laura] Eddie Moore, who was a
public information officer at the time,
told me that they
were considering Mark as a suspect.
But a roommate of Mark said that Mark
had packed his bags and had left.
They don't know where he went.
[producer] Did you guys ever look
at Goodyear as a suspect?
Um [stammers]
When you're investigating a case like this
and you have someone like Goodyear pop up,
you try to do your best to either
eliminate them, or incorporate them.
And I don't know that he was
If he was ever eliminated.
[Mark] Oh, this home feels so nice
and comfortable.
It just wraps itself around you.
- All right.
- [producer] Dave, how you doin'?
- Good.
- [producer] Okay. We can go?
[Dave] Yeah, yeah.
- [producer] So, Mark.
- Yes.
[producer] And you're gonna
just look at me, if you can.
Okay.
[producer] How you feelin'?
Oh, I'm fine. Um
[swallows, sighs]
Now, with the interviews,
it's been 30 years.
I'd like for this to be my very last one.
Wouldn't that be lovely not
to be disturbed with this anymore?
So let's get names,
get identifications, get,
you know,
whatever it is that this may produce.
Now, what your question was? I'm sorry.
[producer] So, so why don't you tell me
the story that you told the police
- Now, if I might if I might, please.
- [producer] about how you met Herb.
[Mark] So at a club called 501,
I ran into Herbert Baumeister.
He was staring at that wall,
floor to ceiling missing persons posters.
I could tell that he was Uh
Very gratified to look into these posters.
It was not a normal encounter.
So I went up to him abruptly,
discussed the posters with him.
[producer] What'd you say?
Just talking to him about the posters.
Just, you know, these are our friends,
these people are missing.
Um
I'd really like to know what happened
to Allen Goodlet.
I just shoved him out the back door.
He had made no effort at all
to fight back or resist.
It was just me dominating him, okay?
So now we're outside. We're in the dark.
You see?
And I got into the passenger side
of his car.
We came up 31.
Talking, discussing,
getting to know one another.
Came out to the farm.
And he'd done a bunch of cocaine.
That's when he started talking about, um
how silk was as strong as steel
or stronger than steel.
And a silk neck tie, around the throat.
I told the police that he attacked me.
He didn't attack me. Nothing like that.
He He had a vacuum hose to the pool,
and he just Like a Hula-Hoop.
That way. And just gently touched
my throat with it.
Okay? And then he took it away.
We went out onto this back porch,
and I think he was gonna kill me then.
And he had pointed
to the berm that's up high
and there were embers glowing there
from a fire.
And you could clearly see
Looked like human forms.
I think he was trying
to get a rise out of me.
I just continued to act
like everything was normal.
There wasn't anything at all
amiss.
That's when he took me over to the pool,
but I after I'm out there with him,
and I realize,
"Oh, shit." You know.
Um, I gave him something.
I knocked him out, you know,
I drugged him.
He really got a kick out of that.
When I knocked him out, it was like, "Oh,
wow. You know, you're the rough stuff."
You know, and all this crazy crap.
[producer] Did he say
that the next morning?
No, he was only out for like 40 minutes.
Okay? You've never been drugged,
have you? It don't last.
[laughs]
Anyway, so
No, it only lasts, like, 40 minutes.
And he was up. He was up. He was up,
vivacious, awake. Alert, wide-eyed.
"Wow. You know, you knocked my shit out."
You know? He was, like
He was jovial about it.
The fog was so thick down here
that you could not see your hand
in front of your face.
And the mannequins were
in that fog with you.
And then that's when he would start
up his little games
that he would like to play in that fog.
Very, very frightening.
[producer] What were the games?
[sighs]
He wanted you to repeat after him.
"I really like to see
[sighs]
the eyes bulging out.
I like to see the tongue bulging out.
The lips swelling and turning purple.
And then cracking."
Yeah, you'd have to recite this
to him word for word.
I thought, "Oh shit.
You know, he's strangling them people
and this is what he sees
when he's strangling them people."
[producer] How many people
do you think he killed?
Oh, he told me.
Fifty-six.
Fifty-six.
[producer] How, how did this
even come up in conversation?
Like, how did he say it?
He wasn't telling me like a confession.
I don't think he had a friend
in the world. I really, really don't.
In that kind of desperation,
I think you reach out for anybody
and I felt so responsible,
I felt so badly about that
'cause I had every opportunity just
to kill him.
[producer] Do you know anything
about Herb's videography?
Oh, my goodness.
[swallows]
[inhales deeply, sighs]
[Cary] This would be a videotape
depicting the initial walk-through
of the search warrant that was executed
at Herb Baumeister's property.
You go back to your Spidey sense.
What would a guy like Baumeister
Where would he keep stuff?
It's not uncommon for serial killers
to keep mementos or trinkets from victims.
Something to relive the series of murders.
We're looking
through the bottom entertainment area,
which would include the bar and the pool.
And we noticed this vent that was located
up here that a screw was out of it.
It was a jar.
And we opened it up and looked.
And it was big enough that a video camera
could have been placed up there.
The vent was positioned
where if you had inserted a camera,
it would look directly down
on a chaise lounge.
There was a pullout sofa
underneath that vent.
It made a bed. Well
[Cary] I was suspicious that
if Herb was videotaping any activity
that might have been going on
in the basement,
that that may have been a way
that Herb could have gained power
over the individuals that he was killing.
Why is that vent loose? It looks like
somebody may have been in a hurry
to take something out of that vent
and that piqued our interest in
to start looking for videotapes,
video cameras.
This was full of videotapes.
I was asked if the videotapes
were stored in this room.
I did not see videotapes in this room.
[Cary] During the search, I had the urge
to go ask Julie Baumeister
if Herb did a lot of videotaping
and she said that he did and I said,
"Do you know where he would keep
his camera and his tapes?"
She led me into a storage room.
There was a blank spot
on shelving that was full.
She said, "Well, he usually keeps them
right there and they're gone.
I don't understand why they're gone."
This theorized he was either
recording sexual activity
before the homicides
or even maybe after the homicides.
[producer] So you're saying he might
have been making snuff films.
[clicks tongue, stammers]
Yeah. It's possible. Yes.
But he was recording something illicit.
That's why he got rid of the tapes.
Julie Baumeister told Detective Milligan
that Herb was a huge videographer.
These are pictures
of Baumeister's basement.
So, you have top and bottom.
VHS recorders.
[person 1] Right.
Has two identical VCRs stacked together.
So, if you're copying videotapes,
you'd copy from one to the other.
[Jeff] He's recording something.
What's he copying?
He showed me some pretty graphic stuff.
Bad, bad. You couldn't make it out.
It was like having a camera
right up against something. Okay?
You're not gonna be able
to tell what is going on.
But the minute you got a flash of
what was going on, it'd make you scream.
He'd put his hands inside my mouth
when I scream. He grabbed my tongue.
Hold my tongue.
It's the most gruesome thing.
"And hold your tongue. Hold your tongue,"
he'd tell you.
Somebody put themselves inside of
your mouth and grab your tongue.
And you're scared to death, you're just
scared. You're just terrified,
That's why I'm saying, you know,
I begged to die. Begged to die.
The man was insane, okay?
He was clinically insane.
[producer] A lot of people
who've followed this, um
They think that you only spent
one night total with Herb.
But you had a relationship with him.
I don't wanna describe that
as a relationship.
[producer] Were you guys romantic?
We'll save that for another one as well.
How about that?
[producer] But you saw him
more than just that night.
The man stalked me. Okay?
When I left here after that first night,
he dropped me off at my car.
I immediately bolted to drive
to my grandmother's home.
He must have followed me.
Because he shows up
at my grandmother's home.
This is, like, within a week.
He was stalking me.
And I realized that, yeah,
because I had gave him my address
after he showed up
at my grandmother's home.
[producer] So, so he was coming
to your grandmother's,
so you gave him your address?
Yes.
Gave him the address
and gave him the other phone number
to get him out of her home.
So he started coming over
to my house at that time.
[producer] How often would you see him?
Oh. Spontaneously.
Things were getting real, real bad,
I guess, in the marriage.
He would show up upset
about things like that.
He was stalking me.
I turned around, started stalking him.
There's an alleyway that connects
all the bars in downtown Indianapolis.
I'd stalk him through that alley corridor.
Stalk him, chase him from bar to bar.
[inhales deeply, sighs]
Now, I'd stand up on furniture,
scream out to the crowd,
"Don't nobody leave with this man.
He is the killer."
Well, he'd stand there
with his hands in his pockets.
[laughs, as Herb]
"They ain't never gonna believe you.
They ain't never gonna believe you.
You know, they're not gonna believe you.
You're They think you're crazy."
A lot of people will ask me, you know,
why did you go on and continue
interacting with this man
or having anything at all to do
with this man or anything else?
Hell, I'd gone to the police.
The moment I had left his company,
I was on the phone to the police.
Any move that this man made, I was
on the phone reporting it to the police.
[producer] Even when he showed up
at your house?
I'd sit there on the phone
with the police with him in my house.
Didn't bother him.
"They ain't never gonna believe you,
they are never gonna believe you.
They think that you're nuts.
They are never"
He was that sure of himself.
I was on that phone six,
seven times a day with the police
and yet they're telling me,
"We can't find the place."
I said, "Well, I certainly can't
take you up there
and put your hand
on a stack of dead bodies.
I'll be sitting
in the Indiana electric chair.
You know what I mean?
It's just not something
that it would be wise for me to do."
[producer] But I think that the police
said that they drove around with you
- to try and find the place
- Yes.
and you couldn't find it.
Yes. Yep.
[producer]
But were you able to find it then?
And just didn't wanna bring 'em here?
Okay, so you have that story, don't you?
Why was it that they were showing up
at my home, telling me,
"Well Mark, he's a family man,
and you ought to leave him alone.
That is a family man.
Everything about him checks out.
Leave him alone." Yeah.
Two years of that. Him stalking me
and telling me, and tormenting me
and teasing me constantly,
and knowing that nobody is coming to help.
And he'd tell me that.
Every time, he'd tell me that.
"Nobody's gonna come.
Nobody's coming to help you."
And he was right.
[person 1] I believe there are still
remains on the property.
This has been going on for over 30 years.
I have to be able to say to anybody
that might wanna buy this property
that we've done everything we can
to find these people
find the remains and to end this.
What will having all this come
to an end look like for you?
For the authorities to say,
"Look, we've done everything we can.
There's nothing more to find
at Fox Hollow Farm."
[Steve] So Jeff,
I've been looking into this.
And I know that, you know,
you have experience with dogs.
Yes.
How confident are you in, like,
a cadaver dog finding bone?
I think a well-trained cadaver dog,
and a well-trained handler
Hi. I'm Steve Ainsworth.
[Jeff] would be a great benefit
to this investigation.
This whole area,
it's a mass fatality, you know?
So I think right in through here
[Steve] I agree.
[Jeff] and then this over in here.
- [Erica] Yeah. I think this was our
- So, low line Yeah, of the burn pile.
[Steve[ And we don't know
if this was ever searched, right?
[Jeff] No, we don't.
[Steve] 'Cause there are reports of
bones over here too.
[Jeff] There's nothing
that would surprise me.
So when you ask me where do I want
to search, you know, it's a killing field.
Hey, good boy. Come on.
Good boy. Getting some work done?
Sit.
Let's go.
Sit. Nice. All right.
You ready to go to work?
Go. Thank you.
[Jeff] So what will the indication be,
you know,
a good strong Is it a sit and bark or
- It's a lay down for both of our dogs.
- Lay down? Okay.
[Erica] Go find.
When you have air moving,
you have what's called a scent cone.
So you'll see these dogs
sometimes start zigzagging,
they're working that scent cone
down to the source.
Thirty years of these potentially remains
laying out here.
He's got a big job in front of him.
[Steve] Yeah, he does.
[Erica] Go get it.
[Steve] I wish he would find something.
[Erica] Arrow, here.
Oh, he's right over here.
I'm gonna follow my dog.
Come on, here.
[barking]
- [Jeff] The dog just indicated.
- [Steve] Wow. Holy crap.
[Erica] Here, boy. I see him smelling.
[Steve] Wow.
[Jeff] That dog was amazing.
[Steve] He's got something.
Right now the Sheriff's department's
working as a death investigation
and this is a potential crime scene.
[reporter] This is one of the bones found
buried on a farm in Hamilton County today.
Police don't know whose bones they are.
[Mark] The day that the police
were allowed onto the property
and began immediately finding things,
I was watching on the news.
When they were holding up the handcuffs,
and the one officer
had a hold of the femur,
you know, and it's all photographed
on the news.
And Herb Baumeister,
well, he was at my house
watching it on television on my sofa,
right next to me.
[producer] Tell me the story.
[sighs]
When he showed up at my house
on the day that they were filming
[clicks tongue] Um
[sighs]
He, uh
He had a gun, and he's yelling at me.
"Why are there news trucks
in the driveway of the farm?"
I figured he was gonna kill me.
He laid the gun on the coffee table.
Then we sat, and we watched the footage
of the excavation here at the farm.
I would consider it bizarre. I mean,
you know, we're finding human bones.
It's not at a grave site.
He really came off with the emotion
that I had somehow betrayed him.
[producer] But didn't you betray him
by going to the cops?
He may have thought that,
but I told him.
I told him I was going to the police.
I told him all that. I never lied to him.
[Laura] Police were finding the remains
on the property and
the police didn't know where Herb was.
I cannot believe that the police
did not at least track his whereabouts.
[Steve] When you have somebody
that's a good suspect,
and you're just trying to
You're working on a warrant
or you're getting ready to arrest them,
we would always have surveillance
on somebody.
Baumeister got away
with nobody surveilling him.
So, a reporter that I worked with
called Herb and he answered.
We were shocked
that he would even pick up.
Herb talked to us for about 60 seconds.
And he told her he was in Indianapolis.
He had talked to the neighbor
and the neighbor told us then
that their understanding
was he was going to go to Canada.
[producer] When you told me about this
before you said that he had brought a box.
Yeah, we're not gonna discuss that.
How about that? Okay. [laughs]
Now, um, no, there was something else.
A tidbit there that I have not divulged.
[Steve] So when Herb goes up to Canada
two days before he kills himself,
he gets contacted by
Canadian authorities, sleeping in his car.
Right.
They're tapping on the window going,
"Hey, hey, hey, you can't sleep here."
They look in the back seat
and there's a big box of videotapes.
[Kathleen] Learning that there was a box
of videotapes that Herb took with him,
if, in fact, he did record his crimes
was painful, frankly.
[Whisman] At approximately 11:00,
a white male was discovered
in Pinery Provincial Park,
lying on his back in front of his vehicle.
The individual used a .357 Magnum
to take his life.
The vehicle in question was a green Buick.
They had recovered his vehicle
and we did examine it.
He had stripped all of the
Not just the floor mat but the carpeting
out of the car, out of the trunk.
They searched the car.
There's no videotapes.
And nobody knows where they went.
[producer] What do you know about
the circumstances of Herb's suicide?
I have heard rumors over the years that
the scene of his death was suspicious.
His suicide note,
it's almost not like a suicide note.
It was a lot of apologizing.
Not one word about the
about what was going on on his property.
Not one word.
The person that found the body in the park
said that he never saw a gun.
I was there. I'm standing over the body.
There's no gun there. Trust me.
I had a really good look around.
There was no gun there.
No, a gun was there.
There was rumors that they had
some kind of whole,
like, satanic alter and shit set up.
That's all bullshit.
He was just dead, dead right there.
[Mark] He was trying
to take me down with him.
But guess what.
He's fucking dead, ain't he?
[producer] Do you think he killed himself?
We'll save that for another damn show.
How about that?
I'm not trying to do 25, okay?
[laughs]
Yes, yes, yes.
I can tell you at the end of his life,
his fingers were round
and swollen as sausages.
There's no way
he could have pulled that trigger.
I've worked cold cases before
where they weren't closed
- Right. Yes.
- but they're on the back shelf.
That's the frustrating part.
A lot of the witnesses, a lot of
the primary people, even suspects.
- They're gone.
- Right.
Like LeRoy Bray.
He's interviewed by an investigator
from Hamilton County Sheriff's Office.
- Unfortunately, he's dead too.
- Yeah.
With respect to the actual crimes,
this is the most damaging thing
to Goodyear that I've seen.
[Steve] LeRoy Bray was a witness that
came to the police in February of 1997.
And he comes forward
to report information on a murder.
What he's describing,
he witnessed a young man being murdered.
And not only being murdered,
but held by Mark Goodyear
while he is being murdered,
which makes Mark Goodyear an accomplice.
[producer] So, if we were to ask
Goodyear about this,
like, what would you ask Goodyear?
I would start by asking
if he knows this guy.
I mean, and I wouldn't even start
necessarily, "Do you know LeRoy?"
I would say, "Do you know Dog?"
[producer] Did you know a guy
named Rick Rigney?
Went by "Dog"?
Rick Dog. That was Goodlet's lover,
I guess, at the time.
Why? Did you interview Rick Dog?
[producer] He's passed away.
I would say,
"Do you know the peripheral players?"
And get him built up to that.
[producer] And did you ever know of
a drug dealer named Danny Covert?
The only Danny that comes to my mind
is a little, feminine guy,
little, tiny man with a lot of curly hair.
And then build up to, "Okay.
Do you know LeRoy?" And then start there.
[producer] What about a guy
named LeRoy Bray?
The response that you would
wanna look for is,
without saying any of the stuff
that Bray said, "Yes, I do know him.
I've known him for a while."
Well, what's he like?
The last time I seen LeRoy,
he was living on East Washington street
with a gentleman over there.
He was selling candles, LeRoy was,
that summer. One summer.
And he invited me over
to a candlelight party.
My spouse today know
knew LeRoy real well. Real well.
And hopefully he's saying "Yeah."
He's straight up gonna say.
"Well, here's what he says about you."
And then hit him with that.
[producer] 'Cause LeRoy called the police.
And he said that he wanted to tell them
about something that had happened.
He He said that he came out here.
[whispers] To the farm?
LeRoy was here then?
- [producer] Um. Can I read this to you?
- Yes, please.
- And I just wanna get your reaction.
- Yes, thank you.
[producer] Um
"I remember that night. We got to
the patio at the back part of the house.
This guy came out
in some kind of big raincoat and a hat,
and he had a face mask on.
I was told to just chill out and relax.
These young guys came out,
one being Mark Goodyear,
and another kid I didn't recognize
until I saw him on the news.
The kid goes, "Hey, baby.
What's going on?"
The guy with the big coat and everything
took a pistol and shot him
while he was on the patio,
- three times at least."
- Who shot who?
"Two or three times, and then he
walked over and shot him with a shotgun.
And then he came back to me
and held a shotgun on me,
and then he had someone hold the shotgun
while he took all the stuff off,
and he said, "Surprise."
And then I took off running.
And I said, "What was this about?"
And he said, "We don't like snitches,
and we don't want any trouble."
He's saying that you were present
for a murder.
Okay, what year is he talking about?
[producer] '95.
I was never in this home
with anybody in a coat
or anything like that.
A long coat, a slicker coat, no, no, no.
And I certainly never
witnessed anything like that, no.
That can't be the same LeRoy
that I knew then.
[producer] He said, "I was standing here,
one person was standing"
[Steve] LeRoy Bray, he knew Mark Goodyear.
And Mark Goodyear, he describes to a T.
He's a tall guy,
looks kinda like a mama's boy.
He's real clean-cut, reddish hair.
Reddish hair,
likes to wear light-colored jeans,
wears polo shirts and stuff like that.
That's Mark Goodyear.
But I would have to speculate
that every bit of that, from LeRoy,
would've been false.
Did he describe the house
in a manner that was realistic?
[producer] He did.
You read this,
and he describes the house in detail.
Especially, um, the exterior.
The rear of it, the bar area,
the patio, the woods at the house.
He describes all of that stuff.
Did Herb own a shotgun?
[producer] There were a lot of shells
found in the woods.
LeRoy Bray, he talks
about Goodyear holding his arms.
But he said, "I think the young man
was handcuffed too."
- [Jeff] For him to mention handcuffs
- Yeah.
- [Jeff] And we found handcuffs.
- Mm-hmm.
I think that begins to build that case
of how credible that witness is.
So why do you suppose
I was never arrested, then?
I don't
[producer] I'm not saying
I think you were involved.
No, I'm asking you, though.
If there was these people
that were saying that I was
people that I know that were saying
that I was, then why wasn't I arrested?
[producer] I don't think that they had
Clearly they didn't have any evidence.
Or they didn't have enough.
Or not credible. See, that would be
Because, I mean, you could probably sit
and talk with LeRoy for just a few minutes
and you would
you would realize that, you know
You're not talking about somebody who
Oh, my goodness,
I don't wanna denigrate the man. Um
Capacity. Mental capacity. Okay?
I would have to say that LeRoy
was probably attention seeking.
He maybe thought he might
get a little money for the interview
or something like that.
[producer] Yeah, he said
he was having dreams.
LeRoy said he was having dreams?
[producer] About this incident.
It might have been a dream, you see.
[Jeff] You've interviewed a lot of people
in your career as a police officer.
When we do that, we're always trying
to figure out how credible this person is.
And after reading through this statement,
I mean, what's your opinion here?
LeRoy, he makes admissions about himself
that I'm going,
- "You would not tell anybody that."
- [Jeff] Right.
[Steve] Stuff that doesn't even
pertain to the case.
And, um, once you get him started
down that path of telling the truth, he
"Okay, let's get it all out."
I think it's an effort for him
to clear his conscience.
Partly to clear his conscience
and partly because he thinks
that the police must know about this
and he doesn't wanna--
"I was there, but I'm not an accessory."
It's possible that because this is, what?
Eight months after it happened?
After the search happened,
it's possible Bray could've watched
television coverage
and put some things together.
Certainly that's possible.
I just don't And again,
I don't mean this in a mean way,
but I just don't think
he has the brain power
to be able to weave this kind of a story
with these players involved
with the kind of detail that he had.
[producer] Did you ever introduce anyone
to Herb Baumeister,
knowing that they would get killed?
I never introduced
anyone to Herb Baumeister.
I would introduce
Herb Baumeister to persons, yes.
"This is your killer.
Don't leave the building with him,
don't be alone with him."
At the top of my lungs, a shrill shriek,
while standing on furniture
in public places.
No, I never set anybody up.
I certainly hope, pray,
that during his stalking of me
Like, if I was sharing company
with somebody,
or maybe dancing with somebody
or something like that, you know,
I wouldn't have noticed
if that person disappeared or not.
I've often prayed that I hadn't
made him jealous
to where he would go after the person
whom I was showing attention to.
[producer] Have you gone to
any of the funerals of the victims?
[Mark] I was invited
to go to Goodlet's wake.
His mother Catherine
Let's not do that, okay?
[cries] Oof.
I'm sorry. Ooh. I'm
It makes me so damn mad.
I can't stand myself. Ooh.
[inhales deeply] Mmm.
Let me go smoke a cigarette.
Please, apologi
Please, apologies to you.
I'll be right back.
[inhales deeply]
[sighing]
[door opens, closes]
[Mark sighs]
[Mark] Oh, you bastard.
Why did you let me live?
Oh, I hate you for that.
[sighs]
[crying] I still don't understand
why or how
he could've done that.
And it's hard to forgive.
What church would you go to, to find
forgiveness for something like that?
You'd spend the rest of your life
on your hands and knees
begging for forgiveness, wouldn't you?
[Jeff] This spot right here
is where the dog indicated.
[chattering]
- [person] I didn't even think about that.
- [Steve] Yeah.
[Jeff] See? Look at this.
See how this is kind of porous?
[person] Mm-hmm.
[Steve] Wow. It could sure be bone.
Here's another one.
Look at that. Just look at it.
[Jeff] That looks like
a piece of cranium to me.
- [Jeff] See that?
- Looks like where there'd be marrow.
[Jeff] Mm-hmm.
[Steve] Wow.
We will take this and have it examined.
And And see what comes out of that.
To find one is amazing.
But to walk out of here with
three potential bone fragments?
I mean, that's that's a success.
[sighs]
Richard was my brother. He was a friend.
He was an uncle.
His life had purpose.
And it just seemed like
all that just got washed away.
Richard was a person. Not just a victim.
He was loved.
[Debbie sighs]
I'm hoping to get a visualization and
and closure.
It's a place where his last, you know
Where he was the last time
he was ever here on earth, you know?
Oh, there's a total
This is totally different.
[Debbie speaks indistinctly]
- [Debbie] There's the sign.
- [Tammy sighs] Oh, my God.
- Hi, I'm Debbie.
- I'm Shannon.
[Debbie] Hi, it's nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you.
- I'm Tammy Nobles, hello.
[Shannon] How are ya?
The last time I talked to my brother Allen
was the weekend, if not the day,
that he came up missing.
I've actually thought about
wanting to go visit the Fox Hollow area
a couple of times just to see.
- Hi, I'm Debbie.
- I'm Xavier.
Hi. It's good to meet you guys,
only I'm sorry that it's the way this is.
- I mean, under these circumstances.
- Yeah.
[person] Right.
It's very, very strange being here.
- [Debbie] Yeah.
- It's sad, to be honest.
It is sad. He didn't even have
a driver's license. Never had no kids.
What I'm afraid of most about this case
is, it happened 30 years ago.
There's probably a lot of relatives
that's passed on
that aren't gonna get answers out there.
They deserve answers too.
I I have no desire to be someplace
where my father met his demise.
I will never go to Fox Hollow Farm.
Unless they wanna sell it to me
and I'll burn it down for 'em.
[chuckles]
This is the memorial
for the victims of Fox Hollow Farm.
"No longer forgotten.
This monument marks
the final resting place
for the innocent souls
who lost their lives at Fox Hollow Farm."
Thank you.
[person] I'll take a pretty one.
[Jeff] "Rest in peace.
Jeffrey Allen 'Jeff' Jones,
Manuel Resendez,
Johnny Lee "Johnny" Bayer."
"Steven Spurlin Hale,
Allen Wayne Broussard,
Roger Allen Goodlet,
Michael Frederick "Mike" Keirn,
Allen Lee Livingston."
"Richard Douglas Hamilton Junior."
Here's some flowers for you, Richie.
[sighs]
[Debbie cries] I just wanna tell him
I love him
and that I never stopped loving him.
[sniffles]
And he was always wanted and,
you know, I wanted him. [sniffles]
I'm sorry this happened to these guys.
[Tammy] You didn't deserve this, Richie.
Hey, go put your flowers down.
[Jeff] I walk into that office every day
[inhales shakily]
and remind myself
just how insensitive we were.
[person] I hope the victims are remembered
for the life they did get to lead.
[inhales, sighs]
And not how it ended.
'Cause that is not their story.
[Adam] If there were all shows that ended
like this one, like this case,
they wouldn't be very popular
because there is no, you know,
bad guy went to jail.
There is no finality that makes sense
for everybody.
It's just a big clusterfuck
that nobody will ever fully understand.
[Mark] Oh, Vicki!
Vicki, they think I did it.
[Vicki] Good.
[Mark] They think I did it.
[Vicki chuckles]
[Mark] My goodness.
I'm far too lazy to be a murderer.
Don't they realize?
- [Mark] May I?
- [Vicki] Yes.
[Mark] Thank you. Oh, my goodness.
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