Capturing Bigfoot (2026) Movie Script

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dramatic music playing
music building
You've got to be shitting me.
This is like the holy grail
or something.
This is gonna
change everything
about my dad's film.
Unbelievable.
Hi, I'm Roger Patterson,
and I'd like to tell you
how I got started
in this exciting adventure
and a few of the things
that have happened to me.
Man: Bigfoot believers
consider the Patterson film
the best evidence
for the existence of Bigfoot.
Man: This film was
the most examined
and most shown film
in the world
besides the Zapruder film
of the Kennedy assassination.
[Flash bulb pops]
Man: This image of the figure
now known as Patty
has become as legendary
as the footage
of the first moon landing.
Armstrong: That's one small
step for man,
one giant leap for mankind.
Man: It's no game,
it's one of the biggest
scientific discoveries
the world has ever seen.
Man: This film is ingrained
so much in American culture.
Mitch Hedberg: I think Bigfoot
is blurry,
that's the problem.
It's not the
photographer's fault.
Joe Rogan: The actual, like,
Patterson footage
for hardcore
Bigfoot believers,
that's their footage.
Man: They worship this film.
I believe the film
is 100% real.
I don't think it
will ever come out
that it was fake.
I believe.
Man: That's
what we're debating,
is it real or fake?
It's one
of the greatest mysteries
of our lifetime.
Man: It never has
been debunked.
Man: The film immediately
sparked a white hot debate
between those
who claim it's real
and skeptics who call it
an elaborate hoax
staged with a man in a suit.
There's no way
that whatever that is,
is a man in a suit.
Man: The film is
simply one piece
of the entire story.
This is a story
about money and greed.
Man: Some real nasty things
went on
after the film was made.
Man: There's a curse
on this film.
Almost everyone
who's been close to it,
it's damaged their lives.
I wish it would've
never happened.
Man:
If you want to try to say
that this film is a hoax,
you're gonna have to say
that Roger Patterson
is the greatest genius
of special makeup effects
that has ever existed.
Man: I can't imagine
that little cowboy
in Yakima, Washington,
coming up with this thing
and having that perfect
of a costume
and that perfect film
and the perfect timing.
And 57 years later,
here we are,
still trying to figure out
how in the hell he did it.
music fading
[Keys jingling]
So, this is...
the Inner Sanctum.
[Chuckles]
Obviously, after years
and years of tenure
here at the university,
it has accumulated
a lot of things.
Even an example
of the model and make
of the camera that Roger used.
[Click, projector rolling]
mysterious music playing
When it comes
to the Patterson film,
I have been preoccupied
with its analysis
literally for decades
and have looked at it
from many,
many different perspectives.
Whether comparative anatomy,
whether the tracks,
whether the nature
of the film itself.
Starting at the head
and going to the feet,
I can go down there
and I can point out
individual muscle groups.
You can see the trapezius.
You can see
the latissimus dorsi.
You can see
this shoulder blade
sliding
underneath those muscles.
You can see
the erector spinae.
I can pick out
the individual heads
of the triceps.
I mean, I can go through
and name these muscles
all the way down to the ankle.
I'm as confident
in the credibility
of that film
as I could be
short of having stood there
on the sandbar
that October afternoon.
There's just no compelling
counter-argument
that can be made
that holds up under scrutiny.
This is bringing back
a lot of memories, you guys.
Growing up here.
My dad carried
tranquilizer darts.
And they were gonna dart
a Bigfoot,
they were gonna chain it
to this
and transport it
to the San Diego Zoo.
That area there
with the plywood
had a hole in it, I remember.
And he had a pan
that would go under there
so if Bigfoot took a shit,
they could keep
it clean and stuff.
[Laughs]
Oh, here's
Here's some of the signs.
Son of a gun.
"Bigfoot Expedition, 1967."
His goal was to prove
that Bigfoot existed.
He read these articles
and then he got the bug.
Have you ever read something
or heard a story
and wished
you were part of it?
I guess that's the way I felt
when I read an article
in "True" magazine in 1959.
It told of huge
human-like tracks
that would mysteriously appear
on logging roads
in the mountains
of Northern California.
The article went on to tell
of giant creatures
that bounded
across logging roads
in front of the loggers
as they would come down
the mountains at night.
A wild story.
And yet, I was intrigued.
Reporter: People have been
seeing Bigfoot creatures
and finding their
tracks for centuries.
Woman: I've heard my parents
and different ones
talk about it.
They have a name for him,
[Speaks Indigenous language]
That's what they call him.
Man: Stories and
legends of the creature
date back hundreds,
if not thousands of years,
among American Indians.
Roger: He has many names.
In California's
mountainous northern area,
he is known as Bigfoot.
In the wilderness
of British Columbia,
he is Sasquatch.
Across the world,
in the Himalayas,
he is Yeti,
or the Abominable Snowman.
I began talking
to anyone
that I thought would listen,
but mostly
they laughed and said,
"Roger, what you need
is a long vacation.
You're going nuts."
I decided they were right.
So I took that long vacation
right up into the mountains
of Northern California.
[Indistinct tuning of radio]
Singer: Run for your life
Clint: My sister
and my brother,
they didn't want any part
of the Bigfoot deal.
So my dad,
he'd take me, you know,
to hunt for Bigfoot.
I was 6, 7 years old.
I look back on it,
I could have cared less
about Bigfoot.
I just wanted to be
with my dad.
He had this Volkswagen van.
There was, like,
some little bench chairs
in there.
He gutted it,
threw everything out,
and decided "this is where
I'm gonna put these horses."
I mean,
we're driving down the road,
and I could turn around
and pet the horses
on the head.
It was like having
a dog in there or something,
but we had two horses in
there.
We pulled up to this store,
and we opened up
the side door,
and people come running over,
going,
"We want pictures of this!"
"What are you guys doing?"
And my dad, "Well,
we're hunting for Bigfoot."
It was like we were,
like, superstars.
upbeat music playing
He had his camera
and his recorder,
and he'd interview people
that had seen a Bigfoot.
Roger: Mrs. Higgins,
could you explain to me
a little bit
about what you've seen?
They've been traveling around
up in the hills here.
Clint: And it was just
story after story after story.
You could actually holler
at certain times of the year,
and this thing would answer
with a guttural tone.
I've never been
so scared in my life.
Just made the hair crawl
in the back of your neck.
Clint: As a kid, I was going,
"These people
aren't bullshitting."
They've seen something.
Something scared
the hell out of them.
dramatic music playing
And he was starting
to get obsessed.
It went
from interviewing people
that had seen one,
then he'd get calls
about footprints,
and he'd travel out
and make plaster of Paris
casts of them.
Roger: I'm convinced
that these creatures exist,
and I'm going to prove it
if it takes me
the rest of my life.
[Hoofbeats]
I wanted to be with him
to go hunting for them,
but I was terrified
if we ever, you know,
encountered one.
One of the trips,
I'm making up camp,
getting firewood,
and he's out there
setting up this cot.
And this cot
had a Styrofoam head,
and he puts
this blonde wig on it,
then he makes it look
like a person's laying there.
And he's setting up
this little scene out there
to draw in Bigfoot.
He told me
that all these women
that have had sightings
of Bigfoot
were usually on their period.
[Mumbles]
I'm just a little kid.
I don't even know
what a period is.
[Laughs]
Next thing I know,
he's out there
with a little gallon jar.
Reaches in there
and puts these little...
you know, Kotexes down.
He called it
"the scent of a woman."
We went and crawled
in our little bunks
in the van.
[Creature howling]
And I hear something
crashing through the woods.
I go, "Oh, here...
"Here he comes.
"Here comes Bigfoot.
He's coming in."
And I was scared to death.
Roger: Was it a Bigfoot?
I'm not sure.
One thing I am sure of,
it was not a bear,
deer, elk, or cougar
that made that sound.
We never did see Bigfoot.
After that,
my mom wouldn't let me go
Bigfoot hunting anymore.
He was a little
more extreme as a father,
but he was my hero,
and he was a cowboy
through and through.
[Crowd cheering]
Roger: Bull riding is the best
feeling in the world.
I didn't care
about the danger.
It's the ultimate rush.
Clint: He was 20,
and my mom was only 16
when they hooked up.
They were, like,
head over heels
when they met each other.
up-tempo bluegrass playing
My dad, in 1958,
won the bare back riding.
He had a little
Studebaker car.
They crawled in the back there
and celebrated this win.
All of a sudden,
here comes Clint Patterson.
[Laughs]
When I came out
of my mom's vagina,
they put a cowboy hat on me.
I'm dead serious.
They were like,
"You're gonna be a cowboy
the rest of your life."
He made me believe
I was gonna be
the best cowboy ever.
Roger didn't want to work
as far as having a job
or whatever.
His whole goal was
to not have
to work for anybody
and be told what to do.
So, he didn't have
a steady income.
Like, "Next week,
we're gonna have a check."
It was never like that.
It was...
you know, whatever
he could come up with.
somber music playing
My mom, she was frustrated.
There was a lot
of pressure on my dad
to start making some money.
He had a wife
and 3 young kids
to take care of.
That's when he went all in
on hunting for Bigfoot.
All of a sudden,
in that little area
where we were living,
was like a hot spot of,
you know, Bigfoot sightings.
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All of these local people
went, "We seen something."
Strange things
started happening
in the apple orchards.
Crates of apples
would be thrown
all over the place.
And there was something
tromping on
and squashing all the apples.
And, at that time,
my dad was writing his book.
"Do Abominable Snowmen
of America Really Exist?"
This is what he thought
a Bigfoot face
should look like.
He did all the drawings here.
It says,
"To Clint, Love Daddy.
Roger Patterson."
[Exhales]
This isthis is
probably the only one
that he ever signed.
Meldrum: That book
sits on my shelf
to this day.
This was the copy
that I purchased
as a youngster,
as a 10-year-old.
As you can see,
it's well worn.
The spine is broken.
But this, I read and re-read.
It made a lasting
impression on me.
Man: I tell you,
when I read that book,
it kind of convinced me
that I'm on the right track.
My name's Larry Lund.
I'm known
as "the Sasquatch Sleuth,"
and I've been hunting Bigfoot
for about 60 years.
Unsuccessfully, by the way.
You know, when I started,
it was just a few of us
that were out there
doing this.
Thinking, maybe tomorrow
we'll see this thing out here
walking around.
And I got to know
some of the big boys.
People like Ren Dahinden.
Man: Ren, how long
have you been searching
for Bigfoot?
Dahinden: For 40 years.
Man: And in that time,
how many sightings
would you guess you've had?
You mean in person?
Man: Yeah.
Dahinden: None.
Man: And if you ever
came face-to-face
with the beast, Ren,
how would you catch it?
Dahinden: The creature
moves like a human.
Man: Right.
Dahinden: I would estimate
that it has a top speed
of 15 kilometers per hour.
And at that speed,
I would be able
to run it down.
Man: You must be
in good shape.
Dahinden: Of course.
I train. I exercise.
I am prepared.
Larry: There was nobody
like Ren Dahinden.
Dahinden: I want to know
who publishes what,
when, and where!
I wanted to know who the hell
Roger Patterson was!
I spent more goddamn time
down Yakima.
I did my fucking homework.
Meldrum: Ren had been
preoccupied
with this search for Bigfoot
for years
before Roger
came on the scene.
Dahinden: Roger Patterson,
as a Sasquatch investigator,
he was good at it.
When it came to Bigfoot,
his investigation
and sightings,
footprints he saw...
Yes, I trusted him.
Patterson and all these other
yahoos on horseback
wanted to make a movie.
Clint: He wanted to make
this documentary
so he could sell it
and make money
to keep looking for Bigfoot.
And it showed him
and his buddies
riding horses
on expeditions and stuff.
And this is the cowboys
that were in the movie.
This was all his good friends.
I don'tIs Bob in this?
That's Bob, yeah.
Bob Heironimus,
he was the so-called
toughest guy in Yakima.
Heironimus: This is me,
Bob Heironimus,
sitting on Chico, my horse.
I was a big stout guy
back then.
Clint: He had a glass eye.
He would take it out
and drop it
into a pint of beer
just looking for a fight.
Heironimus:
They'd look down there
and they'd see that eye
looking at 'em.
[Laughs]
Next to me is Bob Gimlin
and his Appaloosa horse.
Him and I...
We were pretty good friends.
Director: When
was the last time
you saw that picture?
Gimlin: Oh, my goodness.
Where in the heck am I here?
Director: He had you
in the wig there.
Gimlin:
Oh, I was an Indian then.
Clint: Bob Gimlin
was supposed to be
some kind of an Apache Indian
tracker hunting for Bigfoot.
[Laughs]
Uh-huh.
Oh, well. It was all
in good fun, wasn't it?
dramatic music playing
Heironimus: He was trying
to get people to realize
that we were
chasing a Bigfoot.
That's why we all had horses
and we all took off through
the brush,
whippin' and spurrin'.
We had a couple of dogs,
you know.
They were acting out a story.
He was gonna sell it
to a big company,
but he ran out of money
before he could finish it.
Roger had only one person
he could turn to.
Along came Al DeAtley.
I'm Al DeAtley.
Clint: Uncle Al, he was
married to Roger's sister,
my Aunt Iva.
DeAtley:
When I married my wife,
I married her whole family.
And those assholes talked
cowboy shit all the time.
Clint: He had this company
called Superior Asphalt.
DeAtley:
Everyone thought I had
all this goddamn money,
but back then,
construction was the shits.
They'd see I had
a big contract,
but they didn't understand
I'd lose money
on some of those jobs.
Clint: They needed something
to save Superior Asphalt.
And along came Bigfoot.
DeAtley: I never believed
in Bigfoot.
So when Roger would start
talking about it
and his buddies come around,
and they're all a bunch
of radical Bigfoot fuckers,
I laughed at them.
Whether Bigfoot
was real or not,
I could care less.
I was money motivated.
I'd like to read you one thing
out of Roger's book.
"He who seeketh long enough
and hard enough
"will find the truth,
whatever the truth may be."
DeAtley: Roger told me
there was a Bigfoot
down in California,
and he was gonna go down there
and take pictures of it
for his documentary.
Heironimus: Al financed him,
give him some money,
you know, to go down there.
We have an expedition
that we're forming right now.
Dahinden: The Bluff Creek area
is wild as it can get.
It's a big, big, big, big, big
bloody country out there.
There was 6 different
sets of footprints found
since 1958.
Reporter: In Bluff Creek,
California,
Gerald Crew found
16-inch long footprints.
Meldrum:
That's the first cast,
at least in the United States,
of a Bigfoot.
And the actual application
of the label Bigfoot was born.
Dahinden: End of August,
we got a phone call
that the tracks
are all down in Bluff Creek,
so we went down there
and photographed them,
you know.
And we told Patterson
about it.
So, that's why Patterson
went down there.
Every time that we was
notified about something,
we'd go check on it.
Roger: In 1967,
the 20th of October,
myself and Bob Gimlin
were going
into Northern California.
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Gimlin: The sun was up
and the leaves were all
turning yellow and red
in different colors.
Roger was taking pictures
of the scenery
and he took
some pictures of me.
I must have took
some pictures of him
leading the pack horse.
Roger: This particular day,
we had started up Bluff Creek
and had gotten
about 4 miles or so
from our camp.
Gimlin: We came
around the bend in the creek
and there stood a big,
hairy, human-like creature.
[Imitating grunts]
Roger: I was riding
this little horse here
named Peanut.
He shied and jumped
backwards and reared up,
and as he did,
I tried to pull him down,
and as I did so,
I pulled too hard
and we both
fell to the ground.
Gimlin: This was all happening
fast, fast, fast.
My first thought was,
"They really do exist,
and she's walking away."
Roger: And I was able
to get into my saddlebag
and start shooting pictures.
Gimlin: Roger had the camera
up to his eye, of course,
and he starts running
across the creek
trying to get focus,
and he stumbled and fell down.
Then he jumps up
and got on that log
with his elbows
and stabilized himself.
Buck Owens: They're gonna
put me in the movies
They're gonna make
a big star out of me
Gimlin: After that, Roger
said, "Bob, cover me."
I pulled that rifle out
and I just held it.
Roger: Bob and I,
we had agreed
that we will not shoot one
of these creatures
unless we would be
protecting our lives.
Gimlin: As long as it was
walking away from me,
I just stood and looked at it.
Roger: There was a strong
musky smell.
It seemed somewhat like a dog
that maybe had rolled
in something dead
and got into water.
Gimlin: It wasn't
out of my sight yet,
and I said,
"I want to follow it."
Roger said,
"I'm out of film, Bob."
Clint: I can remember
playing in the yard.
Here they pull up and they
said, "We got one on film."
And I went, "Wow!
They did it. They did it."
That's all I can say
is they did it.
They finally got one.
Owens: And all I got to do
is act naturally
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Man: These tapes have been
put away for 25 years.
They tell us a lot
about Roger Patterson.
There's a lot of people
out there, I'm sure,
that would love
to have these tapes destroyed.
[Ringing tone]
Woman: Hello.
- This is Greg Long calling.
I'd like to interview
Bob Gimlin.
Hello, Mrs. Patterson.
Greg Long.
Hello, I was calling
for Ren Dahinden.
Long: I began writing "The
Making of Bigfoot" in 1998.
I'd drive out to Yakima
with my wife Pat,
and I would interview
people that knew Roger
and knew
about his famous film.
My wife would have
her camera and take pictures.
She loved it.
She loved doing it.
And I loved her to be with me.
This went on for quite
a number of years.
The Bigfoot community really
galvanized and sustains itself
on the basis of this film
because it's the key evidence.
And I was trying to find
out the truth of it.
It was like a passion.
You're just driven
to uncover something.
You know, a real mystery.
It ended up
with 130 cassette audio tapes
at the end
of the entire investigation.
There's hours and hours
of people just opening up
to me about Patterson
and the film.
music building
DeAtley: After Roger and Bob
shot the film,
Roger called the paper and
told them what had happened.
Next day, it's
front page Humboldt Times.
country music playing
They knew it was a female
because they saw
mammary glands.
Larry: In frame 352,
she turns slightly
towards the camera
and her breasts sway over.
That's what convinced me,
actually, was frame 352.
Clint: If they're going
to fake something,
why would they put tits
on a creature like that?
Meldrum: At some point,
the entity was dubbed Patty
for Roger Patterson.
Now, it's unfortunate
that his wife
was named Patricia.
There had never been a film
taken of a Bigfoot before.
It exploded
on the American scene.
Ed McMahon: Here's Johnny!
Clint: I went from running
around in a Volkswagen van
looking for Bigfoot
with my dad,
and all of a sudden I see him
on Johnny Carson.
Merv Griffin,
Art Linkletter.
Within the next 5,
maybe 10 years,
if I don't capture one,
somebody's going to.
Clint: All these TV shows,
I'm like, "Well, man,
my dad's famous."
'This guy's famous."
Roger: Going into this
for the past 8 years,
I'veCut it off.
Long: Now he was having
national exposure to the film,
which helped propel it
further into fame and glory.
Clint: I don't think Roger,
Al, or anybody knew
that it was going to take off
like it did.
This footage went viral
before the word "viral"
even existed.
[Horse neighs]
Long: They now had a movie,
which incorporated
the 60-second film of Bigfoot,
and footage
from Roger's documentary
about hunting for Bigfoot.
And it didn't take
many weeks thereafter
that it was in movie theaters
around the country.
Al DeAtley was
the central promoter
to get the film into theaters.
He traveled across the country
when it was the off-season
from construction,
and he hired some people
to do it.
Vaile: All of a sudden,
they're going,
"We got this movie."
I go, "Oh, man, that's crazy."
And he goes, "Are you in?"
I go, "Well, yeah, I'm in."
So me and my brother
Terry, we took off.
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Terry: Uncle Al,
I worked for him.
The work season
was winding down,
and there was a chance
to go show that movie,
so that's what I did.
DeAtley: We started in Oregon.
I advertised for a week,
then we premiered it
in a high school auditorium.
3 showings,
and every one
of them was sold out.
We had like 80%
of the population
of the area show up.
Clint: They gave me a job.
I'm standing there
handing out brochures
to everybody that walked
through the little
gate area there.
Meldrum: When I attended
the showing
of the Patterson-Gimlin film
at the Spokane Coliseum,
it would have been 1969.
I was in fifth grade
at the time.
I can remember
distinctly convincing my dad
that he just had to take me.
There was an excitement
and enthusiasm
that charged the air.
And then out
onto the stage walks
Roger Patterson, introduces
what we're about to witness.
It was quite impressive to see
this larger-than-life image
walking across that sandbar.
I was really
quite enthralled by it.
There's no question
that my experience
as a youngster,
you know,
as a 10-year-old there
in the third row seat,
had a profound impact.
Terry: Just before
intermission,
Roger Patterson
imitated the holler
of a Bigfoot noise it'd make.
[Grunting]
I'd always darken
the lights way down.
[Hollering]
They'd always get
their hair standing up.
And everybody's like,
"Goddamn, look at this shit."
People would always go,
"What about you,
do you believe it?
And I'd go, "Hell yeah."
It's real.
That's why we're here.
I know when I seen it, I went,
"Wow, this is the real deal."
[Indistinct chatter]
In that period,
the film started traveling
all over the country.
But Roger got really sick
several times,
coughing up
some blood and stuff.
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He was diagnosed
with Hodgkin's disease.
They gave him
two years to live.
Woman: He went from
a strong person
to frail.
It was just
absolutely devastating on Pat,
trying to keep
the little kids happy.
The kids loved their dad
like you wouldn't believe.
Clint: There was
a cobalt machine
in his little shed
behind the house.
He would go in there
and clean out
his whole system.
And we'd go in there
and hold hands
with him and talk to him.
DeAtley:
Roger was just so sick,
we all knew he was dying.
Clint: And he doesn't
even know
how big the film's getting.
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DeAtley: We went over
to Denver, Colorado,
and hit that TV market.
Fabulous!
Nebraska. Fabulous!
Vaile: Utah, Colorado,
Iowa, Ohio.
Terry: Wichita, Kansas,
Bedford, Oregon,
Green Bay, Wisconsin,
Missoula, Montana,
Laramie, Wyoming,
Kansas City, Kansas,
Twin Falls, Idaho.
We had like
16 different places
we'd be showing this movie
on a given night.
And they'd have down the road,
around the corner,
people lined up.
When you had 600 people there,
two bucks a ticket,
you got a lot of cash.
Long: They'd make a killing
for the full house
and then they would leave town
and go to the next theater.
DeAtley: We took it to Utah,
but the movie theaters
blocked us out.
So we went to the Salt Palace.
We didn't realize Mormons
can't go to movies on Sunday.
So we get a bargain
basement deal
because they thought
it was gonna die.
That was the most
nerve-wracking day of my life!
They didn't staff it
for ticket sales.
They had, like,
two people there
because the palace
people said,
"Nobody's gonna come."
It's Sunday.
About 10 minutes
before the show was gonna
start, they totally swarmed
that place.
up-tempo music playing
I was standing in $20 bills
up to my knees
in the ticket booth
selling tickets
with my uncle, Uncle Al.
DeAtley: We played two weeks
after Simon and Garfunkel
and took more money
out of the building
in one day than they did.
Terry: People 40 foot deep
throwing money at you
to get into there.
Singer: 5, 10-spot,
Jackson
Fifty, Bennys
Money, money, money!
DeAtley: We did $84,000 out
of that building
Terry: In pillow cases.
Took it back to our room,
Scotty's motel,
dumped it all on a bed
and just acted
like it was confetti.
DeAtley: Unbelievable.
One of the best days
of my life!
Long: Interestingly,
Bob Gimlin is cut out of
profit making from the film.
Long: So originally Al DeAtley
and Bob Gimlin
and Roger Patterson
owned the rights to the film.
Dahinden: Yeah.
Bob Gimlin didn't stand
up for his one third.
Gimlin:
I never realized the impact
it would have on my life.
I'd have been better off
if nothing ever came of it.
Meldrum: Bob and his wife Judi
were the brunt
of a lot of ridicule
and mockery,
especially his wife.
He was particularly sensitive
about her poor treatment
by co-workers.
Gimlin: My wife worked
at the Yakima Federal
and she would come home crying
and saying, "Bob,
I wish you never got
involved with that."
And I said, "Honey, me too."
DeAtley:
Gimlin had gone bye-bye.
He just all of a sudden
wasn't around anymore.
He distanced himself
from going on the road
to promote the film.
Gimlin: They'd get some dude
that looked like me.
He'd say he was Bob Gimlin.
Well, nobody knew
the difference.
Director:
Did you have any royalties?
Gimlin: No money at all.
Director: None.
Gimlin: None.
I felt cheated.
When he found out
that he wasn't gonna
get anything out of it,
well, the proverbial shit
hit the fan, you know.
Dahinden: I talked to Gimlin
over and over
through the years, right?
Long: Mm-hmm.
Dahinden: And every time
I talked to him,
he was bitching,
complaining about
Patterson and Al DeAtley.
There was times
when I would have kicked
those guys right in the face.
One time I think he was gonna
shoot ol Roger.
They were friends and then
they ended up being the enemy.
Bob Gimlin refused to be
interviewed
by me several times.
[Answering machine beeps]
This is Greg Long.
I'd like
to interview Bob Gimlin.
The more people I interview,
the more the truth and facts
of Roger Patterson come out.
I think the public deserves
to hear the truth from you.
Give me a call. Greg Long.
The person who made
most of the money
out of this film
was Al DeAtley.
Hundreds
of thousands of dollars.
That's a lot of money
in 1967-68.
dramatic music playing
Terry: Uncle Al,
After working my ass off
for all week for him,
I would go up to his house
on a Saturday.
Nice house,
swimming pool there.
[Indistinct chatter]
Drink a bunch of beer,
talk about things.
And he would go like,
"Well, you know
how you get ahead
in business or life?"
I'd go, "Well, not really."
He'd go,
"You screw your help."
I'd go,
"Well, I am your help."
Clint: He'd go, "You know
what the biggest thrill
"I ever get out of everything?
Is fucking people out
of their money."
Well, he fucked my family
out of a bunch of money.
That to me is pretty sick.
You take advantage
of a dying person.
And Al's married
to Roger's sister.
He wasn't just some Joe
off the street.
The majority of the money
that was made from the film
went into Al's pocket to save
Superior Asphalt.
Heironimus: After Bigfoot
showed up, all of a sudden
he started buying
new paving equipment,
new trucks and new pavers.
Boy, he just blossomed.
Al DeAtley made
a lot of money off it.
A lot of money.
They were the biggest
contractors in the state.
Clint: He was able to build
a $20, $30 million house,
which is disgusting.
Vaile: Everyone's going,
"Why would anyone build
such a huge,
ugly looking there?"
And I'd go,
"Because he's showing you
he's the king of the hill
and you're not."
He's the king.
Gimlin: The guy is a crook.
And I wouldn't give him
the time of day
If we were running
out of time.
Amen.
Clint: Campfires
Coffee
A tin cup in my hand
Sure warms the fingers
when it's cold
One morning,
I got up out of bed,
and here's my grandma
sleeping on the couch.
I go, "What the heck
is she doing here?"
Next thing I know,
she got us all 3
of us kids together
and they say,
"Your dad died last night."
And I went,
"You're so full of shit."
somber music playing
I went and saddled up
and took off.
I hated God.
There's no God anywhere
that would do this to me.
My hero, my teacher,
I was never gonna
see him again.
It was the worst day
I've ever had in my life.
Gimlin: His brothers called me
and said,
"Bob, would you go see Roger?
He's asked about you."
I kind of got over
the bitterness of him and Al
screwing me over so bad.
So I went to see Roger.
You know when a guy's
about on his end,
he just said, "Hey, Bob."
"I know I'm on my way out."
But he said,
"I'm glad you're here."
And I said, "I am too, Roger."
We talked a lot that day.
And he passed away
the next day.
Clint: I'm pretty lucky
I had you as a daddy.
I love you.
And I hope you're up there
in heaven with God.
I'm gonna come see you
someday.
Long: I have to ask you
this question.
Were you part of a hoax
in which Roger Patterson
may have created
this film footage?
DeAtley: My answer is no.
Did I get involved
after it was shot
and try to make
monetary gain on it?
Yes.
It gnawed
at my conscience some.
Because if I was
ever interviewed
or talked to anybody,
I had to portray myself
as a believer.
And the fun wore off.
Clint: He wanted
to distance himself
from the Bigfoot film
because he knew
he wasn't gonna make
any more money on it.
And he had to live up
to being a businessman.
And he didn't want
to have no part.
In fact, he just gave the
rights to the film to my mom.
It was really hard for Pat
when Roger was gone
because she didn't have
a lot of money.
And she had 3 kids.
Clint: The Discovery Channel,
the History Channel,
all these people were doing
these documentaries.
My mom was making good money
letting people buy the rights
to this film
for, like, 5 to 10 years.
That's the way
she's making a living.
And people seen,
oh, because it says
on the credits,
"Pat Patterson."
A lot of animosity there
from Bob Gimlin.
When he seen my mom
was making some money,
I think it pissed him off.
At first, he didn't want to
have anything to do with it.
But then everything changed.
[Indistinct chatter]
Meldrum: It was quite a change
when he agreed
to make a public appearance
at the China Flats
Willow Creek Museum
that marked the opening
of a new wing
dedicated to Bigfoot.
I thought,
"Well, wow, this is great.
Bob is coming out
and doing something
and getting something out
of his experience."
Because he deserved it.
My name is Bob Gimlin.
I live in Yakima, Washington.
Do you ever look back
and regret the day
you said, "Sure, Roger.
I'll go to California
with you"?
[Laughter]
Gimlin:
I couldn't actually believe
the reception
I got down there.
I didn't regret it
at the time.
And I definitely
won't regret it today
meeting all the folks here.
The 300 people that I met,
they strongly
believed in the subject.
The film is authentic.
It's real.
It's not a man in a suit
and believed in me.
[Cheering and applause]
So that changed things
for me all the way around.
[Applause]
Long: Bob Gimlin is now
invited all over the country
to speak,
and he's kind of a hero.
He really is idolized and
loved by Bigfoot believers.
Woman: We've all known about
him and dreamt about him
since October 20, 1967,
when he changed
all of our lives
in some way or another.
The last cowboy standing
in this room Mr. Bob Gimlin.
[Cheering and applause]
Meldrum:
It's gratifying to see
his experience
with this subject matter
end on such a positive note.
So that's
when you see that face.
Woman: Whoo!
Meldrum:
In contrast to the ridicule
and harassment
that he and his wife
had endured previously.
Clint: At a certain point,
probably my teenage years,
I started hearing
people saying,
"Oh, you know,
that was Al DeAtley
in that suit,"
you know,
just making jokes about it.
I go, "I don't think
Al was in a Bigfoot suit,"
or whatever.
My dad would never lie to me.
somber music playing
And then I started going,
"You know what?
"Maybe these people
know something
that I don't know."
And so I said,
I want to figure out
what really happened.
I wanted to know
the real truth.
Dahinden: It's a really nasty,
dirty situation
trying to find
the kernel of truth.
I focused on that film total.
I know more about the film
than probably Patterson
and Gimlin did, OK?
Long: Yeah.
Dahinden: Except I don't know
if that damn film is real!
When it come to
the Patterson film and Ren,
he was real skeptical
about a lot of parts of it,
but he loved it,
that was his baby.
I mean, that's the only proof
he had in life
that Bigfoot really existed.
Dahinden: I was unable
to crack the film.
I was unable
to find the fur suit.
But more important,
where is the guy
who claims
he was in the fur suit?
Long: Bob Heironimus
acting like the Bigfoot
in Roger Patterson's film.
Go ahead.
Long: Bob Heironimus
appeared in my research
almost immediately.
One of the first witnesses
I interviewed
out in the Yakima area
told me,
"Oh, Bob Heironimus
is the guy
that wore the Bigfoot suit."
I said,
"Who's Bob Heironimus?"
dramatic music playing
Greg Long, I ran him off
a couple of times.
He even came into my house.
I told him
I wasn't interested,
and I closed the door,
you know.
Long: Hello, I was calling
for Bob Heironimus.
Yeah, hi, this is Greg Long.
Is Bob Heironimus there?
Oh, hello,
this is Greg Long calling.
Greg Long calling.
Is Bob there?
[Call disconnected]
Man, he was like a whirlwind.
Finally, I called him back.
Long: I said, "I'm looking
into this Patterson film,
and your name
keeps popping up."
And he told me,
"I need to get a lawyer,"
which told me
there's something up here.
Finally, I did
some full-fledged interviews
in Yakima,
many, many, many hours.
He told me
his story completely.
Long: This is Bob Heironimus.
You are telling me you were
the man in the Bigfoot suit
in Roger Patterson's film,
is that right?
That's right, yes.
Long: OK.
You're not lying to me.
Of course not.
I just want the truth known
that it was a fake.
It was a hoax.
If I would have got paid
the money I was promised,
when I wore the suit
in the film,
I would have had no qualms.
suspenseful music playing
Not long after we shot
the documentary,
Gimlin said
Roger wanted to talk to me.
Heironimus: "Roger,
I'm gonna make a film,
and they need somebody
to wear this suit."
And when they made money,
they would give me $1,000.
Long: And you felt OK
with that?
Heironimus: Yeah, yeah.
I did for a long time.
Now, that's a lot of money.
I said, "Yeah, I'll do it."
They knew they could trust me
to keep this thing quiet.
This is top secret, you know?
I had to go out
and try on the suit,
make sure it fit.
Long: Right.
Heironimus: Walk the way
they wanted me to, you know.
They helped me
put the suit on,
and Roger said,
"Well, start walking."
And when I come back,
he said,
"I want you to go faster."
And the third one, he said,
"Boy, we got it now!"
Long: Now, in the movie,
this was a female Bigfoot
with breasts.
Heironimus: Right.
Long: Do you remember
seeing breasts on the suit?
Heironimus: Oh, yeah.
Long: What do they look like?
Heironimus:
Like...like boobs.
[Laughing]
I said, "I hope there's not
a real male around here
when I wear this thing."
You know?
They asked me
if they could use Chico,
my horse.
So they come by on a Sunday,
picked ol Chico up.
They said, meet us down here
by Bluff Creek,
5 o'clock, Wednesday night.
They said to come in town.
"There's a service station
on the left-hand side.
You can't miss it."
And I pulled
into this gas station.
I saw them there.
Gimlin
come over and said,
"We don't want anybody
to see us all together.
"There's a pull-off
down the road.
"We'll meet there."
And we hid the car.
I followed them up
to the camp they had set up.
I was really tired,
so I got up in the doghouse
on the truck.
Went to sleep.
Producer: We're losing him.
You all right? Bob?
Woman: Bob?
-Bob?
-Bob?
-What?!
-Are you all right?
Producer:
Taking a little catnap?
Heironimus: We got up
the next morning.
Saddled up the horses.
Bob had the suit
on the back of his horse.
I rode on the back of my horse
in back of Roger.
Got to where they had
this place picked out
and they helped me
put the suit on.
They wanted me to start
walking,
and then all of a sudden, look!
And there they are.
And then turn
and keep right on going.
He claimed
that Chico was bucking.
That horse couldn't buck.
He didn't know how to buck.
Roger was just standing there
going like this
with the camera.
He didn't want it so clear
that they could
pick on every detail.
He wanted it
just a little bit fuzzy.
My heart was racing.
Worried about getting
shot, for one thing.
Seeing if I was doing
a good job.
Evidently I did.
Bob Heironimus
came on the scene, and, boy,
all hell broke loose.
Dahinden was angry.
Dahinden: [Arguing].
Larry: He went and met Bob.
He said Heironimus
did not fit that part,
so he's just basically
a faker.
So that's where I stuck
with it, you know.
I guess because Ren said so.
Dahinden:
If it would have been a fake,
do you think them two assholes
there would have dared
fucking the third guy over?
Long: What if he would be
just afraid
to turn against them?
I think there's fear.
So he kept quiet about it.
Because when Bob Heironimus
met me for the interview,
he told me that there's
some prominent people
in this community
that I know about.
And I thought,
prominent people?
Who could they be?
And immediately I thought,
it's Al DeAtley.
And that's why I think
Bob Heironimus,
in part, got a lawyer.
Because if he told the story
with Al DeAtley
involved in some way,
he probably was afraid
of being sued
or something worse
happening to him.
DeAtley: You're saying,
"I'm gonna fake this footage."
How many people
are gonna know about it?
They say the only secret
that's ever safe
is with two people
if one of them's dead.
Right?
-Ha ha ha!
-Right?
Heironimus: He's one
of the richest men in Yakima,
let's put it that way.
He had enough power
down there in Yakima,
well, he'd have had me
bumped off, you know.
Long: OK, it's starting.
Tell me when.
Heironimus:
I said I'd keep it quiet.
And I did.
Dahinden:
In order to demonstrate
what's on
the Bluff Creek film,
the body is leaning forward
because that tremendous
muscle mass is in weight.
And on top of that,
you swing your
arms in a different way.
Meldrum: It had been observed
by some
that Bob Heironimus
had a walk
that was rather distinctive
and looked like Patty.
Heironimus:
Well, my natural gait
is like that they see
on Bigfoot,
the arms coming back
and one forward.
And the long strides.
Meldrum: He's quite
a long-legged guy,
high-hipped,
and walked with a little bit
of a forward stoop
and had a distinctive
arm swing.
But Bob's walk
only superficially resembled
the very distinctive gait
of Patty,
who has a very intentional
arm swing,
massive arms.
Like an ape.
They had extensions
on the sleeve,
you know,
just to make my arms longer.
And Bob adopts
this very funny posture
with his hand,
so the palm
is facing backward.
I guess everybody says
I walk that way anyway.
This hand
that cups up like this.
Meldrum: In the most widely
publicized still frame,
there's a blemish
right over the hand,
which to my chagrin,
you see replicated time,
and time, and time again.
They always show Patty
with her hand turned back.
And when Bob Heironimus
was asked to walk
for the camera,
what does he do?
He turns his hand
completely back around
and walks like an Egyptian,
as I say,
as I poke fun at it
because it's so transparent
what he's doing.
He's trying to imitate
what he has seen.
Larry: There she goes.
You got the real
die-hard skeptics
saying that
it's just a costume.
But that costume
would be very spendy,
and number one,
Roger Patterson had no money.
But even back then,
it just wasn't possible.
mysterious music playing
Long: Bigfoot believers
are attracted to this film
because they believe
that no one could have made
a costume
that looks like this Bigfoot.
Meldrum: Keep in mind,
the height
of costume technology
at the time
is what you would have seen
in "Planet of the Apes."
Dr. Zaius: Cornelius,
if you have a moment today...
Meldrum: So to suggest
that Roger Patterson
could have accomplished that,
why wasn't there
any equivalency
in the industry?
We took this film
to Universal Pictures...
[Hooting]
had their people
study the film.
They do not feel
that this film
could be faked
in any way, shape, or form.
That looked to me
very, very real.
I'm doing this since 1939.
And, if that was a costume,
that was the best
I have ever seen.
suspenseful music playing
Bill: My name is Bill Munns.
I'm something of an expert
on the Patterson-Gimlin film.
I started
specializing in makeup
around 1969
when there was an opening
at Universal Studios.
When you look
at the Patterson film,
you have to look at it
and reverse engineer it,
and say, "OK, you
believe it's a costume.
How was it built?"
I started looking at the suit,
and the first thing
that came to mind,
oddly enough,
was the back of the neck.
In the film, I see her neck
before she looked.
I see her neck after.
And it's exactly the same.
No change.
We couldn't do that
in 1967 with a costume.
Fake fur at the time
was all rigid.
They didn't even have
stretch fur.
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Then I moved on
to the shape of the head.
With a chimpanzee
or a gorilla head,
once the head reaches
the brow ridge right here,
the head goes backwards.
Human head goes up.
How do you get the head shape
to be right from the brow,
straight back?
That's a problem.
You're gonna end up
with a head
two to 3 times bigger
than the human head
who's inside
because with prosthetics,
you can only add.
You cannot subtract.
You can't take an actor
and lop his head off.
SAG doesn't allow that.
In the world
of makeup effects,
there's no such thing
as the homegrown
instant genius,
because all the pros
are geniuses themselves,
and they're constantly
struggling to innovate.
Roger did not come up
with some miracle solution
we don't know about.
Maybe you can't find a hoax
after 57 years
because there isn't one.
Clint: We got experts saying
it couldn't have been
a man in a suit.
The muscles, the movements,
and all this.
This is what I've been hearing
for years.
That right there,
that little shed,
my dad had a lock on it.
And one time
he didn't have a lock on it,
and I got in there,
and I found old fur coats
that he had bought, you know,
around town
at the second-hand stores.
I had no idea
what he was doing.
Definitely the work
the work bench
is still in there,
that he had all the stuff on.
This was all a bench.
And he had all
of the old football helmets.
There was a horse skull
in here.
This is the door
that he put a lock on,
something,
so the padlock was out here.
So he was trying
trying to keep people
from seeing it,
what he was doing in there.
But, I mean,
this is all hindsight now.
I'm looking back on it going,
"What the hell's
going on here?"
[Crowd cheering]
Long: So how could
a simple cowboy
in Yakima, Washington,
create such a costume?
Well, we know that Patterson
was a pretty creative fellow.
Roger: I've drawn
a life-size illustration
of what a full-grown male
would look like.
This drawing is based
on hundreds of descriptions
of people
throughout the Northwest.
Vaile: I would watch him draw,
sometimes for hours,
'cause I couldn't believe
how he could just,
all of a sudden,
have a perfect picture
of the bulls and horses,
and bulldogging.
Long: One of his projects
was to create
miniature stagecoaches
or carts pulled by ponies.
Kids could get on them
and pay 5 cents for a ride.
And he had
a very fine eye for detail,
and so everything
was meticulously made by hand.
Clint: He'd set up
these little scenes,
like staging a robbery.
He was such a perfectionist
about everything.
He said, "Whatever I'm doing,
"I'm gonna make people
believe it.
"Whatever I'm doing,
I'm gonna make
people believe it."
Creative, good thinker,
very convincing,
and, as I found out,
he conned a lot of people.
Dahinden: Each one
of his business deals
has a story behind it.
DeAtley: He was always
going to pay you back
when he got rich.
Long: What he done
is just blow
a whole lot of smoke
up our ass.
Dahinden: He did things
which I wouldn't have told
anybody.
Long: Such as mail fraud?
Dahinden: Yeah,
I think of that one.
Telling me that the postmaster
hauled him in 2 or 3 times.
Told him,
"Either you send these people
"the money back
or you send them
"what they sent you
the money for."
Long: So people
were sending him checks
for the book
that he published.
So he would just keep
the money
and not send them
anything at all?
Dahinden: Yeah.
Long: Before Roger went down
to Bluff Creek
to look for Bigfoot,
Roger rented a camera
from Sheppard's camera shop,
there in Yakima,
and he took it with him.
Later we would find out
that he never returned
the camera...
[Typewriter clacking]
and he was actually arrested.
So he had a record
of petty crimes.
intense mysterious music
playing
After all the interviews,
especially Heironimus' story
and the character
of Patterson,
what I concluded
is that the film's a hoax.
All right.
Long:
But, no matter what you say,
you're going to have critics.
They're going to ask
for hard evidence.
Heironimus: I told Greg Long
I had one ace in the hole.
I have
a prosthesis eye, right?
Long: Right. Your right eye.
Heironimus:
I got this suit on, right?
And I said, "Wait,
this ain't gonna work."
When I turn and look,
you're not gonna
be able to see
my eyes looking at you.
Yeah. Roger said,
"You're right."
So I had an extra one
of these eyes.
I said, "Well, if you mold
this eye in there,
"you know, right here,
and kind of turn it that way."
When I turned
and looked at him,
that eye was pointed
right at him.
Oh, Roger thought that was
the greatest thing there was.
When you look
at the footage of the film,
his left eye has sunk back
about this far.
This eye right here
is sticking out like that
and looking right at old Roger
when I turn my head.
Clint: When I was a kid,
I was told to clean out
this little garage.
I wonder what's in them boxes
over there.
I'm going
through all these tubs,
and I find an eyeball.
And I'm like, "What's this?"
I never said nothing about it.
But, looking back on it,
this is Bob Heironimus' eye.
Long: Oh, that's a remarkable
piece of evidence
if we have the damn suit.
When "The Making of Bigfoot"
was published,
immediately it created
a sensation
among Bigfoot believers.
Man: You've all heard
this story so far.
He's written a book,
"The Making of Bigfoot."
When I wrote this book,
I applied the rules of science
and the rules of journalism.
I attempted to corroborate
any statement
made by anyone else.
But the focus of my book
is the question
of Roger Patterson.
Who was he?
Did he have integrity?
Was he honest?
Was he truthful?
Man: So Patterson
may have been a con artist,
but that's not what I asked,
it's nothing to do
whether he's seen
a creature or not.
It has nothing to do
with that.
Larry: Greg Long,
he was just digging,
trying to get the dirt.
He was not well liked
by the Bigfoot communities.
Reporter: Bob Gimlin
says the book is, quote,
"an ugly character
assassination
of a man no longer alive
to answer the accusations."
I don't have any qualms
saying that Roger Patterson
was simply a petty criminal.
Clint: Greg Long, man, he
he's lucky he's still walking.
[Laughs]
When the book came out,
he was talking about Roger
as a con artist.
My uncles were like,
"Well, we can't have somebody
talking to
about Roger like this."
They wanted to kill him.
I was going,
"Fuck you, fucker."
Oh, my
[Grunts]
I want the general public
to know the truth
about this hoax.
And then here comes
Bob Heironimus.
The show was called
"The Lie Detector"
or something like that.
Rolonda Watts: Really Bigfoot
or just a big liar?
"The Lie Detector"
is soon to find out.
Well, are you ready
to face the lie detector?
Yes, I am.
Bigfoot Bob.
Dr. Ed Gelb:
Were you the Bigfoot
shown in the 1967
Patterson film?
Yes.
Gelb: This test is over.
Remain still
for 10 seconds, please.
Watts: Bob, the lie detector
has determined
that you are...
suspenseful music playing
Bob, you're telling the truth.
Well, I always knew
it was the truth.
Everybody
that I'm associated with,
that I've been around,
knew it was the truth.
And now I proved to the world
that I was
in the Patterson Bigfoot film.
Somebody said that Gimlin
had a lie detector test.
I don't know if he did or not.
If he did,
how could he pass it?
There was no suit.
Him to say that he was
in a suit...
See, those things
are coming off
to see if I'm lying or not.
I didn't do it.
II didn't do it.
What kind of impact
do you think
this is going to have
on the Pattersons
when this comes out
that this was all a fraud?
It'll tell them,
it'll show them
that the buck stops here.
I mean, this is
this the end of it.
We were like, "Bullshit.
He don't have no proof."
My mom
was still making good money
letting people buy
the rights to this film.
I remember, you know, going,
"Oh, we got to protect
the film."
And I thought Bob Heironimus
was a total liar...
at first.
somber music playing
After a certain point,
I go, "Mom, I want to hear
what really happened."
But she would not tell me
anything over the phone.
She thought her
her phone was being bugged
or some damn thing.
I walk in there
and she's sitting there
smoking her cigarettes.
She goes,
"Bob Heironimus was the one
that was in the Bigfoot suit."
That means my dad lied to me.
Roger was so...
He was my hero.
I wish he just
would have let me in on it.
I think, at that point,
I started going,
"You need to tell the truth.
You can't live this lie."
It's been a roller coaster
where I'm not admitting it's,
you know, fake or nothing.
And people come up to me
and ask me,
"What do you think?
Was it real?"
And I go, "I wasn't there."
I mean, that's what I say.
And I even hate myself
for saying that.
I don't like being a liar.
And I'm ready to come clean.
Director: What do you say
to people who are gonna say,
"You're just lying to us
right now"?
They can say what they want.
I don't...
There's a lot
of truth and lies
about this story.
People can make up
their own mind.
Long: The ramifications
for Bob Heironimus
were immediately
the Bigfoot believers
didn't believe him.
He got a lot of insults,
that he was
a liar and a drunk.
There is a reason
why lie detector test results
are not admissible in court.
There are people
who are quite capable
of lying through their teeth
and not betraying
that one whit.
Dahinden:
He's a fucking liar, OK?
I guarantee you
100 fucking percent.
Larry: Phony, fake,
the stuff he pulled.
I have no use
for that kind of lies.
Heironimus: Pissed me off.
I haven't had anybody
call me a liar to my face,
but they probably could now,
being in a wheelchair.
Bob Heironimus was
was just trying
to get some fames.
And I guess he did.
I can't express...
all the feelings that I feel
about Bob Heironimus.
Man: What is your opinion
about Heironimus
and why do you think
he decided to say
he was the guy in the suit?
Man: Do you really
want that?
What is his opinion
of Bob Heironimus?
[Laughter]
Man: Nah.
Gimlin:
There's ladies present.
Man: Yeah.
[Laughter]
Heironimus: My relationship
with Bob Gimlin now
is pretty sketchy.
He wasn'twasn't
friendly to me at all.
Well, I see him
every time I drive out.
He just lives up the street
here from me.
Heironimus: As far
as meeting him on the road
or I'm stand out
in the middle of the block
and he goes by,
he won't wave.
There's some things
you take your hat off to
and some things you pull it
down over your eyes,
and Bob Heironimus is a guy
that I pull it down
over my eyes.
I know he's my neighbor.
And I know I don't believe
a thing he said.
Larry: Heironimus and Long,
this is two characters
I don't care about.
I'll drag them
into the ground.
Man: Why don't you do it
all at once?
Long: I had become
very cynical
about what it would take
to convince people
the truth of something.
And that's pretty sad,
especially in today's society
where people
can have an opinion
without basing it on fact.
Meldrum: The general consensus
of Greg Long's book
was that it did not add
any meaningful,
reliable information
to the conversation
and that it was
simply an ill-fated attempt
to try to debunk
the Patterson-Gimlin film.
And they ended up with egg
on their face as a result.
Long: Ultimately,
the book, I was hoping
would sell a lot more
than it did.
My wife was devastated.
somber music playing
[Exhales]
She was ill.
She had many issues
to deal with
during this time.
She finally, unfortunately,
became more and more ill
and passed away.
We had
this experience together
and now she was gone.
And the book had failed.
And so I went
into a bit of a depression,
actually.
Clint: Probably
about 8 years ago,
when I told my mom
I was gonna tell the truth,
she didn't want to have
nothing to do with it.
Sandy: She disowned Clint.
That broke my heart.
You know, she'd say things
and I said,
"My God, Pat,
that's your son."
She thought
I was gonna ruin
her nest egg of making money.
She wrote me a letter
that I can't imagine
anybody in the world
reading what I had to read
that my mom said to me.
Whatever it was that she said
almost destroyed Clint.
8 years
of not one bit of contact.
Director: What would you
like to say to her?
That I love her.
This film ain't worth
our relationship.
[Cries]
One of the toughest days
was my dad dying.
The second
is my mom disowning me.
And it's over this film.
[Birds chirping]
Director: Is there
anything at all
that does
or ever has given you
cause for concern
related to the film?
You know,
I really get this feeling
like you're leading me
up to a precipice
and you're
just about to push me
over the edge
because you've got something
you think...
[Laughs]
It would take a resoundingly
convincing demonstration
of the ability
to replicate the circumstances
and conditions
of theof the film.
Larry: You know, when it comes
to the belief
of the Patterson film,
I'm not sure I want to see it
proven either way.
I've had too good
of a lifetime out of it.
But deep down inside,
if I'm sitting by myself,
and especially
in this silly room
with all the stuff...
I go, "You know,
we need to know.
"We need to know
if that's true or not."
Like, so many people were
dependent on it being real
and believed it was real.
Id hate to see it proven wrong.
Director: What information
would it take for you
to accept it's a fake?
It would have
to be something major
to make me think
anything other than the fact
that Roger got a real film.
[Birds chirping]
[Tool whirring]
Teresa: When I was
in elementary school,
the kids were starting to talk
about this Bigfoot thing.
I lived in a small town
in the woods
and I thought this Bigfoot
was going to get us.
When I got home,
I was just in tears.
And then, when I told my dad
why I was
so scared and upset,
then he just said,
"Teresa, you don't have
nothing to be afraid of
"because I started
this whole Bigfoot thing
and it was
it was just a hoax."
dramatic music playing
I knew my dad had
a secret Bigfoot film
he kept in his safe.
I only saw the box
a few times.
It was like,
"That's the Bigfoot film."
But I never knew exactly
what was on that film reel.
[Projector rattling]
I always thought
the film in the safe
was the famous Patterson film,
just from the stories
I had heard growing up.
What I saw
created so many questions.
What is this film?
Seems to be a hairy figure
emerging
from a woody background here.
Teresa: Mm-hmm.
Well, that would be
the Bigfoot.
Man: One of the things
I'm looking for
is latent edge numbers
that might help us
in identifying
the type of film.
Here we are.
It says Kodachrome
Roman numeral II.
But there's also
another code symbol on here,
which is a couple
of geometric shapes.
A triangle
followed by a circle.
-OK.
-And here we have a guide
that shows us the history
of these date codes.
And that date code
was used in 1926,
1946, and 1966.
Teresa: Wow, that's right
when I think
this was developed.
Man: This appears to be
authentically originated
in the sixties.
Was it exposed and developed
in 1966?
Probably, 'cause the image
looks really crisp,
and there's no significant
fogging or fading.
May I ask what
your father's name was?
Norm Johnson.
Man: Was he one
of the original people
who presented
the film to the world?
Teresa: Well, he was not.
He was hidden
in the background.
mysterious music playing
My dad worked
at Boeing developing film.
He became manager
of the whole film department.
Bigfoot was not discussed
in our house,
especially in front of my mom.
My mom told my dad,
"You're not gonna have
anything to do with this
'cause you can get
in trouble."
So I think my dad
just took the film
and put it in the safe
to appease my mom
and say this is never
gonna get out.
And it's been sitting
in that safe
for 50 years.
You should probably know
about my dad's brother,
Dave Johnson.
So my uncle Dave,
he was a swindler kind of guy
trying to make fast bucks.
Norm and Dave together,
they would get
into some trouble
prior to my mom
coming into the picture.
When Dave was in Yakima,
he was working
at a print shop.
And that's where
he met Patterson.
Patterson came in there
to get his book printed.
My dad's best friend,
Ray Bricker
he had a lot of information
for me.
This story's
all about connecting the dots.
Bricker: Norm and I go back
to the fifth grade.
We were talking
about the Bigfoot
and he said to me,
"Well, I still got
the original film.
I didn't give it back
to Patterson."
And he never said anything
to Teresa
or anybody about it, you know.
I was the only one
he ever talked to about it.
Dave mentioned that Roger
came into the print shop
in Yakima
and he forgot his briefcase.
And Dave opened the briefcase
and saw the mold
of the Bigfoot.
When Roger came in,
he told Dave about it.
Dave told him
he wanted to be part of it.
And he introduced Roger
to his brother Norm.
Norm, being
in the Boeing film lab...
he's the one
that put the film together.
Talking to Norm one day,
and he told me
that he had the Bigfoot film
and he had it down in Arizona
in their safety deposit box.
Teresa: My dad always
made it this big mystery.
So I'm kind of torn about it.
Part of me wanted
to keep the family secret.
But then I just thought,
"Well, there's
so much misinformation
"in our world today
"and a lack of credibility."
So I thought,
"Let's just go ahead
and find out
the mystery of this."
[Projector rattling]
Long: It's got
the camera shake.
And it's obscured by trees,
just the way
Patterson's film was made.
It's got the way
the creature's walking
and stomping and looking.
So uncannily like
the '67 film.
To me, it's a practice.
The story has always been
Roger Patterson,
a one-shot deal.
He's the luckiest guy
in the world.
He films a Bigfoot.
And yet here we have Bigfoot,
shot almost like his film
in '66, a year before.
It's a smoking gun,
and thank God
someone's found it.
Bill: Examining
the frame of the film,
it was definitely shot
on a Kodak K100 camera.
Camera manufacturers
would make
some kind
of an irregular shape
along the edge of the film
or into the sprocket area
that would expose light.
And that individual shape
would identify
the specific camera.
We know for a fact
that Roger did use the K100.
The similarities between it
and the Patterson film,
I will readily concede,
are very fascinating.
It can't be a coincidence.
[Projector rattling]
Clint: You got to be
shitting me.
You're blowing my mind
on this from '66!
This is gonna change
everything.
Producer: How do you think
your mom's gonna react?
[Projector stops]
We got to show it to her.
If she lets me talk to her,
I don't know
if she'll even let me.
somber music playing
When my mom
sees this trial footage,
she'll have
to come to terms with
the truth coming out.
It's hoaxed, and we both
we all know it.
We know it. This is fake.
It was faked, and Roger
did a really good job
of doing it.
[Projector rattling]
Oh, for fuck's sake.
Roger was such a perfectionist
he was gonna do it
until he got it perfect.
It shocks me that Roger
would ever let
this footage stay out there.
It's like if you murder
someone, right?
You can never tell nobody.
You might get away with it.
If no one knows.
[Projector rattling]
[Chuckles]
Director: What are
your immediate reactions?
The first thought is,
"Is this
a dry run, a rehearsal?"
The convergences
are remarkably
striking and annoying.
Can you show me some frames?
Even down, does it
does it have breasts?
Filmmakers:
-Yeah.
-Yeah.
Meldrum: Why would you create
a costume with breasts?
Well, the devil's argument
would be that the females
are reportedly
6 to 7 feet tall,
whereas the males
were up to 8.5 feet tall.
Hard to find
an 8.5-foot-tall actor.
Anyway, can you let it
run a little bit now?
It does have that same...
contour there.
This is gonna be
the topic of discussion
for the coming decade,
I'm sure.
The simplest explanation
is uncomfortable to arrive at.
It's a bee in the bonnet.
[Laughs]
My brain's just looking
at all the dots,
trying to consider
the possibilities.
[Projector rattling]
[Projector stops]
Hmm.
That's the answer
we've been looking for
for years.
That's definitely fake
and it's definitely rehearsed.
And see these lines
coming down right here?
These vertical?
Director: Mm-hmm.
They're right there too.
Ah.
Director: What are you
feeling? I mean...
A loss.
[Chuckles]
Hmm.
Poor Ren.
emotional music playing
Somebody said the thing
was either
it's the Sasquatch or me.
Well, I choose the Sasquatch.
Larry: Ren had a wonderful
wife and a couple of boys.
And he just was so obsessed
with this film,
it broke up that family.
And they never
did get back together.
I mean, there's no other way
of putting it.
He abandoned his family
to go look for Bigfoot.
And I'm so sorry he did that.
Dahinden: That was my thing!
I decided
that's what I'm gonna do
in my fucking life.
Long: How are you feeling
these days?
Dahinden: OK, you know.
Long: You OK?
Dahinden: But I'm not going
square dancing.
Long: [Laughs] Yeah.
Dahinden: I'll let you go.
Over and out.
[Recording ends]
Larry: Ren was not
doing well,
and he knew
he didn't have much time left.
And he called me up
and he says,
"Larry, what you doing?"
He had
some other words in there
that I won't put in there.
"On Saturday?"
And I said,
"Well, nothing much, why?"
He says, "Come on up here."
I can remember
sitting there with him.
He says, "You know, Larry,
"I just don't know.
"All the time and things
we put into it,
and what do we have?"
He thought we had nothing.
Two weeks later,
he passed away.
Director: Do your feelings
surprise you?
Yeah,
because I would have thought,
"Oh, well, you know,
it's just a film
"and the guy faked it."
But yeah, but look
what he's done to people.
The lives he's changed.
[Birds chirping]
Sandy: How did you not talk
about this?
Clint: Oh, for years, I just,
you know, people,
knowing that it was
my mom's only way
of making money.
So I just went along with it.
Vaile and I
How dare you
keep that from me?
Yeah, I know it.
I should have told you.
I believed this
the whole time.
But I always thought
you you already knew.
-No.
-No.
When I told her
I was gonna tell the truth,
she wrote me a letter,
5 pages,
and told me
that she wished I would've
would have aborted me
or whatever.
-Oh, Clint.
-Oh, yeah.
That she wished
I was never born.
Nobody deserves
something like that, Clint.
I don't wish
sorrow on anybody,
but I hope
she's really regretful
for the way she's treated you.
emotional music playing
Clint: You know,
there's a lot of things
that II really regret.
I feel bad that I called
Bob Hieronimus a liar.
I was just trying to go along
with the big lie.
He needs to know
that he's validated.
[Knocks on door]
Look what you pulled off.
You and your long arms.
More power to you, buddy.
Woman: Hello.
Clint: Hello.
Glenda?
Clint Patterson, Roger's son.
Roger Patterson.
Glenda: I'll be darned.
Clint: Oh, yeah.
You're short
like your dad, too.
[Laughing]
Glenda: Come on in.
Appreciate you coming by.
Clint: Bob.
Heironimus:
How you doing there, bud?
Clint: Been waiting to talk
to you for a long time, buddy.
Heironimus: It's been
100 years. How you been?
Clint: It's been a long time.
Heironimus: You betcha.
Clint: I was a little boy
when I used to see you.
Heironimus:
Yes, you were. You were.
You look just like your dad.
You do.
You look just like him.
I often thought about you.
I wondered how you're doing
or whatever, you know.
I always wondered,
"If I see Clint,
"how he's gonna take this?"
You know.
He might want
to kick my ass."
Clint: I want to apologize
for what happened to you.
I know that you've had to live
with this all your life.
Heironimus: It's no big deal.
I wasn't out to hurt anybody.
I just wanted people to know
the truth about it, you know.
That that was me in that film.
Well, you know,
and it was a hoax.
You know, after 35 years,
I said, what the...
"I don't think Roger's gonna
to pay me my $1000," I said.
Well, I'm hereI'm here
to make that right.
No, it's not your problem.
Clint:
No, it's not my problem,
but my dad promised you
$1,000.
I want to hand it to you.
-Well.
-Would you please take it?
Heironimus: If he insists,
on your dad's
Clint: My dad, I want my
I want toI want this.
-It's for my dad.
-Just put it right there.
Clint: OK.
Heironimus: You're a
You're a hell of a man.
Clint:
You're a hell of a cowboy.
Heironimus: [Laughs]
Used to be.
Clint: Yeah, you still are.
[Projector rattling]
Heironimus:
The only time they filmed me
was when we went down
to Bluff Creek.
Director: So that isn't you
in that suit too?
It wasn't me.
mysterious music playing
Vaile: Man, that really looks
like Al walking to me.
They made the suit,
and then
they decided to try Al in it
'cause he was big.
Then they went, "Shit.
"He don't look
like a Bigfoot."
Doesn't have the walk,
you know, the gait.
The walk.
So they said,
"No, it won't work."
That is Al DeAtley
trying to do the walk.
100%.
If I sit down
with my Aunt Iva,
she'll back up
everything I just said.
[Birds chirping]
[Bells tolling]
Up, up, up, up, up.
Up, up.
Clinty,
don't pay any attention
to her.
She's a l
Clinty, stay
sit beside me.
Clint: OK.
OK.
Producer: All right, guys,
let's just start packing up.
Director: OK.
Producer: Yeah.
So, over his.
All right,
do we have anything?
Oh, Clint, do you want
to grab all your...
I just want
to make things straight.
That he...it was a hoax.
somber music playing
Clint:
Well, I called my Aunt Sandy,
hoping for a miracle.
And I said, "Would you please
call my mom?"
[Cell phone rings]
Hello, Sandy.
Sandy: Boy, she was
in a good mood.
I told her I needed
to talk to her about you.
She said that's fine.
She said
she doesn't even remember
what even happened
because she's blocked it
out of her mind,
and said
you don't need to call her,
that you can just come by,
that that's just fine.
[Dog barking]
Oh, my gosh.
This is a fucking miracle.
Son of a gun.
Sandy: I just
she's too calm, Clint.
In a way that you don't know
how she...
how she's gonna treat me
or what?
Sandy: Yeah.
She doesn't have
any guns in there?
Sandy: Not to my knowledge,
Clint, I swear to God.
[Laughs] OK.
I love you, Sandy.
Thank you so much.
Sandy: I love you, too,
but I want you
to really be alert.
Man: Clint, I need you
to put on
your Pearl Snap shirt,
and I'm gonna tuck
this camera in
with this lens rolling
in your shirt pocket.
-Are you OK with that?
-Yes.
Man:
It's for your own safety, too.
Clint: I know it.
Fuck, how come
I'm so emotional?
Man: Because it's your mom,
buddy.
You're about to walk in
to see your mom
for the first time
in 8 years or longer.
Right here.
[Knocking on door]
Clint and Pat: [Sobbing]
Somber music playing
Clint:
You're looking good, Mom.
Pat: Oh, I don't think so.
I'm
I'm on my last legs.
Clint: You're doing good.
That film is a curse,
that's for sure.
A living hell curse.
Just thinking back
of things that...
happened
and went through and...
I mean, the kids went
through hell at school,
on the school bus, uh...
[Whispers] I don't want
to talk about that.
[Sobs]
Clint: It's OK.
I just hate this film.
Al DeAtley,
I was scared of him, yeah.
I seen him beat Iva up
several times.
Sandy:
Pat's relationship with Al
was fear of Al.
He was a big man,
and he was a scary man
and a powerful man.
Pat: He did. He threatened me
to keep my mouth shut
with a shithouse grin
on his face.
Well, I hope one of these days
that this
will kind of just die out.
Clint: Well, it's not going to.
[Chuckling]
At least while I...
Director: But maybe the negative
feelings about it can.
Yeah, I know.
Director: So this
was locked in a safe
for 55 years.
Pat: I haven't seen this.
Director:
I don't know if anybody has.
I mean,
it's amazing to look at it.
Director: So we went
from the mystery film version
on the left
to the Patterson film version
on the right.
Pat:
It's getting better, isn't it?
Well, he was a perfectionist,
that's for sure.
And that's an Appaloosa.
Is that Bob Gimlin?
My God.
Director:
Bob, we wanted to see
if you can help us identify
somebody in this film.
Producer: Yeah,
take a look at that.
Director: Yeah, see if...
Who was on the horse?
Producer:
That's a good question.
Larry: You know, I don't think
Bob Gimlin
lied about anything.
But I'm not sure
he wasn't tricked.
He was taken down there
to be a friendly
witness, I guess.
And they used somebody
like Bob, who's very...
You know,
you talked to him before.
He's a very honest man,
I think.
[Projector rattling]
mysterious music playing
Heironimus:
That's that Appaloosa mare
he was riding.
It was the same horse
he was riding
in the documentary
that we made.
Yeah, that's Gimlin.
Clint:
Look at the smile on his face.
He's got a grin
from ear to ear.
Like "look at me."
Wow.
We've been lied to
by him, too.
By everybody.
Except Heironimus. Oh, God.
Don't tell me
he's the good guy.
Clint: I really think he wants
to come clean, but
Well, you know, we were
we were good friends there
for a long time.
Clint: And you guys
are next-door neighbors,
and it's sad because
Heironimus: It's a...
He's 92.
He knows what happened.
Yeah. Why didn't hewhy
doesn't he want to come clean?
Clint: You guys should be
shaking hands and
Heironimus:
Certainly, certainly.
Clint: I would really love
to see that.
Heironimus: You know,
it all started out
as a hell of a friendship,
you know?
Clint: Yeah.
Heironimus:
I thought about going
to some
of these Bigfoot conventions.
Somebody found out who I was,
they'd shoot me
or tar and feather me.
Clint:
Well, if you want to do it,
I'll walk in with you.
"This is the man
right here, boys."
Heironimus:
The next convention they have,
let's get together,
let's do it.
Clint:
"This is Bigfoot right here."
That'd be great.
That'd be great.
somber music playing
Super Squatch!
Director: So we're gonna see
Bob Gimlin later today.
Tell him I said,
"Just tell it."
-Just tell the truth?
-Yeah.
Woman: I'm from Utah.
I came to Yakima
because I wanted
to see Bob Gimlin.
He's kind of like my hero.
Pat: Bob's a likable person.
There's no doubt
about that, but...
I just don't have
any respect for him at all.
Producer: Now, what do you say
about the naysayers
that say the film is fake?
Attendee: I tell them,
if they get a chance,
go meet Bob.
There's no way he'd lie.
He threatened me
a lot for money
and said he was gonna tell
that it was a fake.
And I said, "Go ahead."
Woman:
Oh, my gosh. Meeting Bob,
that was one of the things
on my bucket list.
So meeting him
meant everything to me.
Bob Gimlin
he just got caught up in it.
And he seen all of a sudden
he was getting
a lot of attention
going
to all these conventions.
And now
he's had to live this lie.
And this is the lie
I'm trying to get off my back.
Let's go find the
Let's go find
the Bob Gimlin line.
Heironimus: All right.
Woman:
What are you in line for?
Heironimus:
Speak to Mr. Gimlin.
Woman: OK. I'm at the end
of that line.
Heironimus: Did you hear that?
Speak to Mr. Gimlin, I said.
Clint: We got about 15 people
in front of us.
Heironimus: There he is.
I can see that little fart now.
Clint: We're next.
I don't think he sees us yet.
Heironimus: Good.
All right. Let's go.
Man: Next!
Clint: Hey! How you doing?
Heironimus: Hey, Bobby!
Gimlin: What the heck
are you doing down here?
Well,
I'm keeping track of you.
Clint: Bob, how you doing?
I had to come see you.
Well, from one cowboy
to the other,
I got to tell you
what's going on.
Me and my mom,
my whole family,
we're all coming
you know, we're coming clean
and telling everybody that,
you know, it was fake.
That Roger did it.
And he did
a damn good job of doing it.
You know, he did.
-Yes, he did.
-Yeah, he did a hell of a job.
Are you ready
to come clean on it?
-Yes.
-OK, let's do it.
Let's tell everybody
what an amazing person
Roger was.
Gimlin: Yeah, I will.
You know?
Woman: Yeah,
we need to kind of hurry up.
Clint: OK.
Woman: I'm sorry about that.
Heironimus:
How you doing, Bobby?
Gimlin: Pretty good.
Hey, you still got
the same grip
you had 20 years ago.
Heironimus: Them old hands
are all beat up, tore up.
Arthritised up.
Gimlin: You roped
too damn many steers.
Clint: We got to move.
Gimlin: OK.
Heironimus:
Back me out of here
so I don't run over somebody.
Clint: OK, you're good.
Heironimus: Clint!
Let's have another beer!
Clint:
That worked out pretty good.
Heironimus: You're damn right.
Yeah, it did.
Clint: You know what? He shook
my hand because he knows.
Heironimus: Yeah.
Well, he knows. Yeah.
This is great.
This is one of the best things
that's ever happened
since I wore the suit.
somber music playing
You know, there's some things
that happen in your life...
that you carry it
to your grave.
Too much has went
underneath the bridge
to ever go back.
Clint: You know, this has
this has been
a weight lifted off me,
telling the truth.
Yeah, well, good.
Clint:
Caused me and you problems.
[Fire crackling]
And I'm glad
I'm sitting here with you,
getting the truth out there.
Pat: Mm-hmm.
I'm pretty happy.
Director: So,
I've got some news for you.
Clint Patterson,
Roger Patterson's son,
has told the truth
and admitted
it was all a hoax.
You're kidding me.
One of the Patterson
family members
is going to qu
sort of confess
and tell the story?
Director: And it was
Bob Heironimus in the suit.
I'll be darned.
This is
the most fantastic news
I've heard in the 20 years
since I wrote my book.
Finally, I will be redeemed.
All of my hard work
and the work that my wife
put into it with me...
I and my wife
have been vindicated.
Clint: My dad wasn't
a con artist or whatever.
The footage
that he had to pull off
was just to keep him going,
to prove that they existed.
Pat: Roger,
he really believed in it.
He actually believed in it.
It may be
that the Patterson-Gimlin film
has run its course
after 57 years,
but it does not bear
on the ultimate question
of whether Bigfoot
exists or not.
Man 1:
It can't be anything else...
Clint: But a Sasquatch.
Man 1: Yeah.
Sandy: There's still
gonna be people
that are gonna believe it.
They're not gonna believe
this film.
Well, honestly, it still
doesn't shake my confidence
that the Patterson film
is real.
Everybody wants something
to believe in.
Pat: I kind of believe
in aliens a little bit,
or would like it to be true.
Probably
the same thing with this,
because they probably
aren't real.
I haven't seen any land.
[Laughs]
It's been
a long, hard uphill battle,
but one more rewarding
I can't possibly imagine.
I've been part
of one of the greatest hoaxes
of all time.
Fuck, yeah!
Sandy: What a brilliant mind
made this film,
and now the truth is out.
Clint: I mean,
he was pretty much a genius
to pull this off.
[Laughs]
I'm proud of him.
I'm the son of the guy
that pulled this shit off.
Could you imagine
running
into something this big
in the woods?
Damn.
You guys want to start working
on the Kennedy assassination
for me now?
Shania Twain: Been gone
Back from my old ways
Too long
Draggin
these doggone days
But each song keeps me
rolling along my way
And I pray
Orville Peck: Ive seen
people tuggin on the reins
Full speed, baby,
dust is in my veins
A stampede couldnt break me
in my stride
You wanna know why?
Twain and Peck:
It gets lonesome
on the lonesome trail
So keep your head up high
Because, baby,
weve been up all night
Look at this thing.
Huge big foot.
Unreal. What would you do
if you see
one running at you?
Shit your pants.
Twain and Peck:
Ive been rode hard
And put up wet
Aint nothing
in this world
Gimlin: We did our very best,
and, if it wasn't good enough,
then we'll try it
all over again.
[Laughs]
Twain and Peck:
Cause legends never die
Cowboys don't lie.
We might stretch the truth
once in a while.
[Laughs]
Twain and Peck:
Wild heart
Peck:
Got some hazy memories
Vaile: The craziest part to me
is they were able
to pull it off.
They did it.
They actually thought it up
and pulled it off.
Peck: Well, once or twice
I just wanted to, you know,
be known as an honest guy.
Twain: I've got nerves
of steel
Twain and Peck:
It's my show
I do think there's
something out there
that it does exist. Yes, I do.
Yes, I believe
that Bigfoot is real.
Twain and Peck:
Legends never die
Peck: They won't die,
they won't die
Never die
Yeah!
Twain: You and I
Twain and Peck
Legends never die
Legends never die.
Twain: Baby, baby
Peck: You tell them
Twain: Baby, never die
[Vehicle driving away]