The Dead Guy (2025) Movie Script
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[Director] Go.
All right, we're rolling in five,
four, three, two, and one.
Hello, and welcome to tonight's episode
of The Real Paranormal.
I'm your host, Danny Early.
Today we're joined by
a very special guest.
He is FBI Agent Justice Brown
of Malachi Louisiana Police Department's
FBI Paranormal Division.
Agent Brown, welcome to the show.
Thank you.
So, Agent Brown,
should I refer to you as The Dead Guy
since that seems to be a name given to you
in certain circles?
- No, no, don't call me,
I didn't come up with
that name, first of all.
I don't know where it came from
but I'm not a big fan of it,
namely because what it does is
It seems to be
disrespectful to the deceased.
[Justice] Yeah.
As well as it tends
to diminish what you do
almost at a level of vaudeville.
That's exactly it.
Which is odd
that you would have that
type of sensitive insight
considering you just wanted to
call me that 40 seconds ago.
Understood.
No, we definitely won't call you that.
All right, I appreciate that.
So, Agent Brown, I guess the
million dollar question is,
how can you talk to these dead people?
Well, the pending theory from scientists
that I've been hearing
is that I have a rare metallic
substance in my bloodstream
that I've had since I was born.
I mean, I bleed just like you
and anybody else, I bleed red,
but it is this metallic substance.
And technically I should be dead,
about 47% of the stuff
in me, I should be dead.
But for me, it's normal,
you know, it's harmless.
And they seem to think that
that has something to do with me
being able to talk to the dead.
But truth be known, man,
nobody knows how I can
communicate with the dead.
Nobody.
So, Agent Brown, in addition
to hearing these dead people,
do you ever see dead people?
- [Justice] No.
- 'Cause I gotta tell you,
if I saw dead people every day,
I would be hiding out somewhere
in Hackensack, New Jersey,
in a confessional,
curled up in a fetal position
with my thumb in my mouth.
(Justice laughs)
No, I don't see them.
I mean, I'm glad I don't,
because, I mean, think about it,
what kind of shape would they be in?
[Danny] Exactly.
Some guy shot in the
face with a shotgun,
half his face blown off?
Yeah, I mean, some poor woman
who was strangled to death,
her eyes bulging out, tongue
sticking out of her mouth.
Yeah, some person's been
in the water for 10 days
and they're bloated and all disfigured.
I mean, half the time I
wouldn't even, you know what?
Forget it, man, forget it.
No, to answer your question,
I don't see dead people.
Okay.
Well, hearing them is
definitely plenty enough
because as you said just now,
you really don't know
what you're gonna get.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, for a while when I was younger,
it started off, I was
hearing a lot of these calm,
soothing, motherly-type voices.
And every now and then a kid
would slip in there, you know?
But then outta the blue,
one day this guy comes
chiming in with this gruff,
loud-ass gruff, and he's like,
"Yeah, I'm Frank Bell.
I was the chief, brick masonry guy."
Whoa, whoa, man.
You know, I'm 11.
Ease into that shit.
With that gruff.
So you've always heard these
voices then, even as a child?
[Justice] Oh, yeah,
yeah, unfortunately, yeah.
So why did it take you so long to,
really, until recently,
to let anyone know that you've
always heard these voices?
Well, I mean, as a child growing up,
I thought everybody heard voices,
I mean, I thought that
was just the way it was.
But then I would see on TV
whenever some guy would
say he heard voices,
the first thing they would do
would be to put him in a
straight jacket and lock him up.
- Right, right, right.
- Yeah.
And this was like a recurring
theme on, not just one,
but various television shows.
So at that point,
nah, I wasn't saying anything to anybody.
It's definitely understandable.
Yeah.
[Danny] But at some point,
you eventually did tell people
about those voices that you would hear.
So what was the turning point for you?
The turning point was,
I heard the voice of this
little seven-year-old girl.
She told me she was
murdered by her mother,
stuffed in a garbage bag,
and then stuffed down into a hole,
in a huge hole in a huge
redwood tree in the backyard.
And this happened like 60
years prior or something.
But she said the house had been abandoned
and it was in a state of disrepair.
Disrepair?
[Justice] What?
This seven-year-old girl,
she actually used the word, disrepair?
No, no, no.
No, she used the word decrepitude.
Yeah.
But it turns out that house,
the little girl's house,
was only eight miles away from my house
- Really?
- At that time.
So I mean, I drove over
there, and man, there she was,
still inside that redwood
tree, like she said.
I mean, after some trepidation,
I finally ended up calling
the police to tell them.
Who obviously just
totally embraced your story
of talking to a dead girl, right?
(both laugh)
No they, I ain't saying they believed me
but they checked it out.
They knew I didn't have
anything to do with it
'cause it was like years
before I was even born
so that was okay with me.
Right.
So after about solving
the fifth or sixth case,
police departments all over the world
started taking me a little more seriously.
So serious in fact that the FBI decided
to make me the head agent
at the newly formed FBI
Paranormal Homicide Division,
of which I'm the only employee.
Boss
Boss
Boss
Boss
Boss
Boss
Boss
Boss
No no I'm not dead yet
At the end of death
That I have to go begging
From door to door
I don't know how
I was born out here
I wasn't left no money
From my granddaddy's will
But don't you worry
'Cause I won't cry
Long as I got my father
He'll be with me by and by
But as long as I live
Even when I'm dead
I get down on my knees
And I'll bow my head
And I'll thank
I'll thank
I'll thank the Lord
Hear me now
I said I'll thank
I'll thank
I'll thank the Lord
Listen to me
I may not be on stage
Or on TV
Singing away
No that ain't me
I been around the world
I'll be at the stage
(train chugging)
(horn blares)
Make me change my ways
And I tried
(horn blares)
(train chugging)
(train chugging)
(Mayberry sighs)
Detectives,
you told me you'd be here
in 10 minutes, and that was,
yep, 32 minutes ago.
Apparently your 10 minutes is
different from my 10 minutes.
What do you care?
We are 32 minutes late, Mayberry.
You have some place else to
be in this horse-hit town?
As a matter of fact, I do.
Yeah.
Today's the county fair,
and you promised Aunt Vee
and Opie you'd drive them
to the pie-baking contest.
Don't crack wise with me.
You tell me you'll be here in 10 minutes
then be here in 10 minutes.
It's called common courtesy.
So let me get this straight.
You two drive all the way out
here to Ellenville, Louisiana,
because some psychic told
you that there was a body
from an old homicide off of I-25?
Not some psychic.
The psychic.
Justice Brown.
Justice Brown, The Dead Guy?
Well, I don't mean that
he's actually dead
Yes, The Dead Guy.
And if he says there's a body off of I-25,
you can bet your ass
there's a body off I-25.
Hmm.
[Lester] Psychic said
it'll be near some kind of a hand puppet.
[Mayberry] Listen, for the record,
I'm not a big believer in psychics
or ESP or any of that shit.
You know what?
I'm going to play a little
bit of devil's advocate here
by addressing the obvious
elephant in the room.
We're not in a room, Mayberry.
We are in the woods.
Bet that sucks.
All right, so let's just say
we do find a body out here
like the psychic said.
How do you know the
psychic ain't put it there?
First of all, the body's
from an 80-year-old cold case.
And Justice Brown is about 45,
so he wasn't even born yet.
He's seven out of
seven on his predictions
since working with us.
Seven out of seven.
Well, maybe he killed
those seven out of seven.
And the body isn't from 80 years ago,
it's from four, five, six years ago.
Some unholy shit.
Lester, I found the Muppet.
That's a puppet.
What's the difference?
There's no difference.
Then why in the fuck
would you correct me
on whether it's a Muppet or a puppet?
Because it's not a Muppet.
They're both puppets,
but Muppets are Jim
Henson called his puppets
back in the 50s.
It's like his trademark or some shit.
He's right.
Let's say you got two dogs and
one's a collie and one's not.
They're all dogs, just
one's just a collie.
I'm so glad you two
are here to enlighten me.
But Brown said the body
would be near the puppet.
Here's a puppet.
And he was right.
(eerie music)
[Mayberry] Holy shit.
[Lester] Eight out of eight.
(text thuds)
(dog barking)
[Customer Agent] First, Mr.
Brown, we want to thank you
for being a loyal customer for 12 years.
And I'm sorry that your
computer is not working,
but I will try
to walk you through getting
it back up and running.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Bad choice of words, all right?
Bad choice of words.
The computer is working, all right?
It is working.
It turns on, turns off,
it does everything in
between, it's working.
It's just a little sluggish.
[Customer Agent] Sluggish?
You know, it's a little slow.
Right now, it's like (snaps).
[Customer Agent] Sounds like
When it should be like (snaps).
[Customer Agent] I dunno what
Do you get what I mean?
[Customer Agent] One
was fast and one was not.
All right, all right.
[Customer Agent] Okay,
with your permission, Sir,
there are a few things that I want to try.
Some basic process of
elimination best to get
Well, wait, before you delve into that,
I did a couple of things,
just to save some time.
I defragged the drives.
I did the disc check cleanup thing.
Removed the startup programs,
checked default power settings,
checked the performance options,
and I gotta say that was
a lot of options on that
[Customer Agent] I have to go.
What's that?
[Customer Agent] Sir, I have to go.
You have to go?
[Customer Agent] I have to go.
Go check on something
that we are doing or?
[Customer Agent] I'm leaving, Sir.
You're leaving?
Leaving, leaving?
[Customer Agent] There aren't
variations of leaving, Sir.
What do you mean?
We're in the middle of
troubleshooting my issue here
and you're talking about you're leaving?
Is that CompU
[Customer Agent] I'm leaving, Sir.
Six Folks common practice
to leave in the middle of a,
whoa, this guy hung up.
I don't believe it.
You know I'm like,
who hangs up in the middle
of a customer service call?
In all my years, I never, oh,
Joe, forgot about you, Joe.
[Presenter] Hello, we're
back from commercial break.
If you're tuned in,
this is the Zachary Zachery podcast.
I wanted to address an issue
that recently occurred.
I had a woman on the show a few weeks ago
who said that she witnessed
a UFO in her neighborhood.
And I got called on the
carpet by my listeners.
(text thuds)
(dogs barking)
Joe.
You're gonna have to do
this some other time.
It's almost noon, man,
you're gonna have to just
come back some other time.
Actually, I'm already done.
You have a sulfation build
up on your battery plates.
A sulfation buildup on my,
you know, I knew it was
something like that.
Joe, you gotta go.
I have a session at
noon, man, you know that.
You doing that today?
So you gonna go inside
on a nice day like today
and talk to dead people?
I do it every day, Joe.
So yeah, I'm doing that today.
I always wanted to ask you,
why noon?
Does that time serve
some type of significance
for the ghosts?
I mean, I would think
they would want to pull something
a little more creepy like,
I don't know, midnight or some shit.
It's not the Rocky
Horror Picture Show, Joe.
They prefer noon, I don't know why.
Can we just?
(mower whirring)
I'll get the door.
I appreciate you fixing the deck.
Don't forget about
your cord right there.
[Presenter] With a big head
and androgynous bodies.
- [Justice] I'll get it.
[Presenter] UFO means
unidentified flying object,
which means nobody knows
So lemme ask.
[Presenter] And it could be flown
What happens if you can't make noon?
I mean, what if there
was a hurricane or fire
or maybe you have jury duty.
Or maybe you wake up one day
and you say enough with the headaches,
enough with the nose bleeds,
enough with all the ghosts already,
I mean, what happens then?
Well, what happens
then is all those people
who were murdered, that never got justice
and somehow managed to
break down the fourth wall
and sought me out for help,
they remain unheard, unrested.
Look, Joe, the headaches, the bloody nose,
all that stuff is temporary, it goes away.
But the restlessness of
a wandering wronged soul,
it doesn't unless I help.
[Joe] That's a good point.
(mower whirring)
(water sloshes)
(phone ringing)
(phone beeps)
Detective Sugar Shack.
You found him.
You are the psychic,
Justice, you tell me.
No, that wasn't a question,
I'm telling you, you found him,
just like you found all the others.
And once again, man, I'm not a psychic.
I told you I don't
Yeah, no, I know, I know
there's a name for it.
Mediumistic communicator, spirit medium.
I looked into it.
You know the Chinese have
got a word for that shit?
Tongji.
They got another one too, it's
Yeah, jitong, I know,
and can we just get back to
the subject at hand please?
What was the condition of the body?
I hope for your sake it
wasn't like that last one,
that Kenny Dawes.
You said her face was covered
in some type of weird mold.
Yeah.
[Justice] It freaked you out.
Thank you for the reminder
of the gory details.
This one's fine, skeletal.
No eyes looking back at me.
Anyway, we'll take it from here, Justice.
That Justice?
[Sugar Shack] What?
Is that Justice you're talking to?
Yes, this is Justice.
Tell him I said hey.
[Sugar Shack] I'm not doing that.
Nah, it's okay, Sugar
Shack, I heard him.
Tell him I said hey back.
Yeah, right after I find a unicorn.
Look, Justice,
I don't have to tell you
what's gonna happen next
because there was a body here
and you're about to be bombarded
with a lot of questions
and lot of naysayers as usual.
Yeah.
Yeah, and as usual, I'll deal with it.
(phone ringing)
(lively music)
(text thuds)
(phone ringing)
(Justice sighs)
(phone ringing)
(lively music)
Ah, you gotta be kidding me.
(phone rings)
(phone beeps)
Chioma Ebimbola.
To what do I owe this surprise?
[Chioma] Hello?
Hello, Justice.
[Justice] I thought I was
persona non grata with you.
[Chioma] It's been a few
months now since we talked.
I know-
[Justice] Thanks to you.
[Chioma] It's been a
few months since we talked
and I was wondering in that
time, did you find Jesus?
[Justice] Did I find (chuckles),
yeah, yeah, as a matter of
fact, I did find Jesus, Chioma.
I found Him at a car mechanic
shop on Arthur Street.
He was working on a 1978 Buick Skylark.
I thought that was kind of
beneath Him, but you know,
with the walking on water
[Chioma] You know, I should have known.
I should have known you'd make
a big blasphemous joke of it.
You haven't changed at all.
[Justice] In two months?
No, no, Chioma, I haven't changed.
[Chioma] You are
hopeless, frigid inside,
a hopeless sinner on your
way straight to hell.
[Justice] If I'm going
to hell Chioma, so are you.
[Chioma] What's that supposed to mean?
[Chioma] What it means is, Chioma,
you are a hypocrite
with a double standard.
You think because you go to
church two Sundays in a month
that makes you Anjez Gonxhe Bojaxhiu?
[Chioma] What?
[Justice] Anjez Gonxhe Bojaxhiu,
that's Mother Theresa's real name.
See, I knew that, you
didn't, Miss Religious.
[Chioma] So because I didn't know
Mother Theresa's real name,
that makes me a hypocrite?
And what exactly is my hypocrisy, Justice?
- [Justice] No-
- [Chioma] Tell me.
[Justice] Having sex
with me out of wedlock
makes you a hypocrite.
No fornication, remember?
Isn't that one of the 10
Commandments or something?
Thou shalt not get it on?
[Chioma] Only a servant of
Satan would be so blasphemous.
[Justice] See, you willing
to banish that one loop,
that one little tidbit for your desires.
Then you wake up the next morning,
push the reboot button, and start afresh.
You go to work, you talk about God,
you go to church, you talk about God,
and you talk loud and
clear so that everybody,
including God, can hear, hmm,
just in case He does exist.
So next time you feel the need to call
and talk to me about
heaven and hell, Chioma,
you make damn sure you have a
lot more to bring to the table
than you going to church twice a month.
I talk to dead people, Chioma.
I talk to the dead.
In my book,
that puts me a lot closer
to God than you'll ever be.
So if you will excuse me, Chioma,
I have a real conversation to get to.
(phone beeps)
(dial tone rings)
(phone beeps)
(lively music)
(bright music)
(birds chirping)
[Kids] Whoa.
(tense music)
(birds chirping)
(kid screams)
(monster roars)
(electricity zaps)
(kid screams)
(kid panting)
(monster roars)
(monster roars)
Come on.
(kid screams)
(dramatic music)
(footsteps clopping)
(strap clicks)
(door creaks)
(door thuds)
(drawers rumble)
Don't move.
(tissue flapping)
(Justice panting)
(text thuds)
(eerie music)
(electricity zapping)
(Justice groaning)
(eerie music)
(Justice groaning)
(tense music)
(Justice panting)
(tense music)
Ah.
(Justice panting)
(tense music)
(Justice coughs)
(Justice panting)
(tense music)
Oh.
Before we get into it,
I'm Justice Brown, FBI
Paranormal Division.
(tense music)
All right, let's get into it.
(tense music)
So are we gonna do this or what?
Look, I know you're
there, I can feel you, so,
you don't have to worry,
I mean, you're among friends, you know?
All these people, they're just like you.
(tense music)
So I'm gonna need your
name and your residence
at the time of her death.
(tense music)
Look, I don't know how
long this is gonna last
before we get disconnected,
so can you at least try to
[Alice] Alice Hall.
My name is Alice Hall.
All right.
All right, all right.
[Alice] 1444 East Commonplace.
Hall.
[Alice] Bar Harbor, Maine.
Bar Harbor, Maine.
All right, what can I
do for you Alice Hall
from Bar Harbor, Maine.
[Alice] Why are you talking like that?
Why am I talking like what?
[Alice] Like some
sort of game show host.
Okay, Alice, I've been
doing this for a long time.
I can assure you, it's no game.
And my tone, it's my tone.
(tense music)
Do you know why you're here, Alice?
[Alice] Yeah, I know why I'm here.
Okay, good, good.
Look, before you tell me what happened,
I'm gonna need you
to gimme the name of
the person responsible
for the circumstances
that terminated your life.
[Alice] The circumstances
that terminated my existence?
Yeah.
[Alice] That's a very
mild way of putting it.
You make it sound like
my light bill wasn't paid
so my lights were turned off.
Or some parking tickets weren't
paid so my car was towed.
I was murdered, Mr. Brown.
My existence wasn't terminated.
I didn't pass away and I
wasn't called home to glory,
I was murdered.
(tense music)
I try not to use words
like killed and murdered.
That's just me trying to lessen the blow.
[Alice] There is no
blow to lessen, Mr. Brown.
I'm already dead.
And the miscreant, the
savage who made me this way,
I now know to be Auggie Doggett.
Auggie Doggett.
Auggie, is that two Gs, Doggett two Ts,
or Auggie, one G, Doggett, one T?
You know what?
I'll figure it out.
Oh, excuse me for a second, Alice,
I want go and sit down over there.
You pack quite a punch, Alice.
(tense music)
(Justice grunts)
(tense music)
Did you know this guy, Doggett?
[Alice] No, I didn't know him.
All right.
What happened to you, Alice?
[Alice] I was a member
of the Mighty Maze Gymnasium and Spa.
I would go to work out after
I got off from my nursing job
at the hospital at 11:00 PM.
I preferred that time
because there would only be
about two or three people there
so I didn't have to wait
to use the equipment.
I always worked out for about 30 minutes,
that night was no different.
When I was done and went
out to the parking lot,
there was a blue van
parked next to my car.
I thought it belonged
to one of the two people
still inside the gym.
I was wrong.
As I was about to get into my car,
the door to the van slid open.
Doggett grabbed me from behind
and put me in a choke hold.
He pulled me inside the
van, then closed it.
I passed out.
He tied me up then took off.
I went in and out of
consciousness as he drove.
When I finally woke up,
I was in a garage, still inside the van.
Doggett put my clothes
in a black plastic bag
and put the bag in a
hole in the garage wall.
Then he looked over at me,
tied up in the van, and got to it.
When he was done, he strangled me,
then drove out to Lumbago National Park
and buried me by Parkland Mountain.
I'm still there.
Thank you, Mr. Brown.
Thank you for listening.
(Justice grunts)
Lemme ask you something else.
Does this Auggie Doggett guy ever come by
and visit the grave
or anything strange and weird like that?
Freaky?
Alice.
Alice.
Yeah, I guess you're gone.
All right, look, don't
worry, I got down every word.
I'm gonna turn this in, I'm
gonna find you, all right?
We're gonna get this Doggett guy.
All right.
All right.
(eerie music)
(electricity zapping)
(Justice groaning)
(Justice panting)
(tense music)
You forget something, Alice?
(Justice panting)
(tense music)
[Karenna] My name isn't Alice.
It's Karenna Kelloch.
What?
(tense music)
Listen, I'm sorry, I thought
you was somebody else.
I never had two murder
victims back to back before.
Sorry I called you a murder victim.
[Corine] What should you have called me?
A murder victim is precisely what I am.
I'm Justice Brown.
FBI Paranormal Division.
What did you say your name was again?
[Karenna] Karenna Kelloch.
(tense music)
I will just transfer your information
onto your own personal book later.
Okay, and what was your address
at the time you were killed?
Sorry.
[Karenna] 1601 Wellman
Avenue, Se Alcove, Maine.
Mm, another Maine.
And what is the name
of the person or persons
responsible for your demise?
[Karenna] The person
responsible for me murdering me
is a man named Auggie Doggett.
(tense music)
Auggie Doggett.
(tense music)
That's the same name.
[Karenna] You said it's the same name.
I don't understand.
Oh, there was a woman, Alice Hall,
I talked to her right
before talking to you.
She said she was killed by
a guy named Auggie Doggett.
Auggie Doggett, well, what do you know?
It's the same name, the same guy.
Did you know him?
[Karenna] No.
What about Alice Hall?
[Karenna] I didn't, no.
Just trying to piece
together some kind of,
have you ever been to Bar Harbor, Maine?
[Karenna] Mostly just passing
through, at least until now.
Meaning I'm there now.
And how far is that
from Se Alcove, Maine?
[Karenna] About 20 minutes.
20 minutes.
(tense music)
Right.
Karenna, what happened to you?
What was your final moment?
[Karenna] I went shopping for groceries.
When I was done, I went
out to the parking lot,
and as I was placing the
groceries in the trunk,
and blue van drove up behind
me, bumped my shopping cart.
Auggie Doggett got out the
van, grabbed me from behind,
and pulled me in the van, choked me out.
I thought he had killed me.
I mean, he did eventually,
but I thought he had killed me then,
until I awakened in his
van in the garage naked.
[Justice] One second.
(tense music)
All right, go ahead.
[Karenna] Whatever he
was going to do to me,
he had already done it,
and now he was wrapping things up.
He had rolled my clothes up
and put them in a plastic bag
then put the bag in a gaping
hole in the wall in the garage.
Then he turned and looked
at me, a piercing look.
I knew what it meant.
He rushed over to the van
and proceeded to strangle me
with a makeshift garrote
that was already positioned
around my neck when I awakened.
He laid into me so fast, there
was no time for anything.
No time to scream or to reflect
or to get in one last breath
before he tightened the noose.
I was then placed in a
huge black garbage bag.
He drove to the aforementioned Bar Harbor,
then buried me in the
Lumbago National Park
near Parkway Mountain, where I am today.
Karenna.
Karenna.
(Justice sighs)
(phone rings)
(phone beeps)
(water sloshing)
Yeah, Joe.
[Joe] Hey, Cuz.
Just wanna make sure you're
done with your seance.
Yeah, I'm done.
Just wanna make sure you
didn't have an aneurysm
or a stroke from one of your nosebleeds.
(water sloshing)
No.
No, I didn't have one, not this time.
(water sloshing)
I had two apparitions today, Joe.
Two, back to back, one
immediately after the other.
Two?
You never mentioned having
two back to back before.
That's because I never had two before.
And listen to this,
they both were killed by the same person.
Some guy named Auggie Doggett.
Now see, I don't like
that, two in one day?
What if the Osborne brothers were killed
or the Mormon Tabernacle Choir,
I guess they'd be contacting you next.
Haven't these people ever heard
of Joel Osteen or TD Jakes?
Why don't they contact them?
Don't they get paid to do that stuff?
(water sloshing)
(eerie music)
I gotta go, Joe.
I got another call coming in.
(phone beeps)
(eerie music)
Oh, shit.
(tense music)
I'm Justice Brown.
(Justice laughs)
FBI Paranormal Detective.
Who am I talking to?
[Masimo] I am Masimo Bana.
One second.
Give me one,
think I'm running out of blood.
(tense music)
Masimo Bana?
(tense music)
Okay, Masimo Bana,
what was your address at
the time of your demise?
[Masimo] I resided at 140 Skylar place
in Bar Harbor, Maine.
(Justice laughs)
Bar Harbor, Maine.
Bar Harbor.
Okay.
Now for the $1,000 question, Ms. Bana,
who killed you?
[Masimo] It was a complete stranger.
It was a man named
Auggie Doggett.
- Auggie Doggett.
Yeah.
(Justice laughs)
Jesus Christ, does this guy ever sleep?
[Masimo] Excuse me.
Nothing, nothing, just,
oh, boy.
Okay, Ms. Bana.
- [Masimo] I am Mrs. Bana
- How did you,
Mrs. Bana.
What's your story?
[Masimo] It's a short
one, I can assure you.
One that starts with me having
to go to the ATM machine
at the local Jefferson Estate Bank.
I went there to get cash
because my husband emptied
our emergency cash box
to purchase some kind of
toy for his collection.
Sounds like a, what do you call it?
Peter Pan Complex.
[Masimo] Peter Pan?
No.
Because at least Peter Pan
could do something productive
like fly or fight.
My husband was more like Beaver Cleaver.
He was completely irresponsible and inept.
And just when I would
get the cash box back up
to a decent amount,
he would go in and take
out half or one third,
or in this case, all of it.
He was an asshole.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hey, hey.
Should you be talking like that?
Using that word?
I mean, asshole?
Come on.
[Masimo] I'm allowed to speak honestly.
So if I honestly feel that
my husband is an asshole,
then yes, I'm allowed to say that.
Well, I'm definitely not gonna ask you
how you feel about Auggie Doggett
if you're calling your
own husband a asshole.
Look, can we just get back on track here?
Let's just stay on track.
I don't want you to get
in trouble with the guys
or whoever's running the
show here, all right?
Just
[Masimo] There's not much
track left to get back at.
The whole thing happened so fast.
I left my car running when
I went to the ATM machine.
Before I knew it,
I was put in a choke hold
by this Auggie Doggett
and dragged to a blue van.
While I was about to pass
out from the choke hold,
I remember thinking,
I left my car running,
then everything went completely black.
I was out like the lights in Georgia.
Hold on, wait, wait.
I'm cramping up.
(tense music)
Oh, what the hell?
All right.
[Masimo] When I opened
my eyes, when I woke up,
the first thing I saw was a
baseball clock on the wall.
Baseball clock?
[Masimo] Yes, the clock
was designed like a baseball.
The minute and the hour hands
were shaped like baseball bats.
(tense music)
What about the second hand?
[Masimo] The second hand
was just a second hand.
It had nothing to do with baseball.
Nine hours had gone by
since this man abducted me.
I felt like I was drunk.
[Justice] How do you mean?
[Masimo] Disoriented.
When I averted my eyes from the clock,
the first thing I saw was a
naked body in front of me.
It took me 30 seconds before I realized
that naked body was mine.
And just as it occurred to me
that Auggie Doggett was nowhere in sight,
something started tighten around my neck.
It was Auggie Doggett behind me.
He was strangling me.
And this wasn't a strangling
to subdue type of strangling,
this time he meant business.
This time he killed me.
And now I lay buried in a makeshift grave
in Lumbago National Park
near Parkman Mountain
in Bar Harbor, Maine.
The grave is near the
tree marked with red paint
at the base of its trunk.
Tree with red paint.
That's good.
It's good to know.
It minimizes the digging areas.
That's good.
Okay, what else?
Mrs. Bana?
Well, I guess that's it.
I guess we're all done.
I mean, I hope,
'cause I don't think I can
take another apparition.
So I'm gonna just vamos.
All right, I'm gonna take care of this.
(footsteps thudding)
If it's okay with you guys,
I'd like to stay a little
longer just in case.
All right?
(strap clicks)
(gentle music)
(text thuds)
You changed my life
Let's see here.
(keys clacking)
You changed my life
(keys clacking)
Someone said
(picture thuds)
(picture thuds)
(picture thuds)
(keys clacking)
When you said I love you
(gentle music)
There you are, you fucker.
(tense music)
(horn blares)
(train chugging)
(Joe clears throat)
So is this it?
Is this everything?
You didn't leave anything out?
I got all that from my notes,
which I got from the people.
Why, you think they could
use more detail or what?
I don't know, I didn't read it.
(Justice laughs)
What do you mean you didn't read it?
Man, you've been staring
at it for 27 minutes,
what do you mean you didn't read it?
I glanced over it.
What's the story?
Uh.
Three women, all from
Maine, all strangers,
all abducted, raped, and
killed in the same manner
by the same guy, a guy
named Auggie Doggett.
Also a stranger.
After he kills them,
he buries them at Lumbago National bark.
Why there you ask?
Convenience, he works there as a ranger.
So what's a realistic timeline?
Like usual, I'll turn
it into the Chief today.
He'll probably look it over
and he'll call the Maine
police probably today.
If it's early enough,
they'll check it out probably today.
But they're not gonna just go out there
and start digging up the
place with shovels, Justice.
No, I mean I know that.
Yeah.
It's a homicide scene, Justice.
They're gonna go out
there and take their time
trying to preserve
every possible evidence.
And when they do find something,
they're not gonna stop what they're doing
and notify Chief Cornell.
They're gonna notify him
when they notify him.
So late tomorrow, maybe.
Late tomorrow.
(text thuds)
[Crime Scene Investigator] I found one.
Oh.
I'll just piss later.
Oh, it all checked out.
Bar Harbor Police found the
bodies of all three women
buried at Lumbago National
Park, just like you said.
Good.
I mean, I don't mean good good,
but you know-
Yeah, I know what you meant,
I know what you meant.
What about the killer, Auggie Doggett?
Our detectives went to
pick him up for questioning
but he wasn't home.
(text thuds)
Well Roger, he's definitely not here.
His neighbor said he left
earlier this morning.
So what do you think?
Clear the cars outside
and leave a few guys here?
You know, nab him when he comes back?
Nah, he ain't coming back.
[Detective] You sound sure.
Just about as sure as I am
that my ex-wife is
dating a Taiwanese woman.
Look at that spread over there.
[Agent] All right,
I'm heading out, guys.
11 biscuits on a plate.
A very large container of milk.
Okay, so he likes biscuits.
So what?
Actually, I'd say he loves biscuits
considering he's got nine
more boxes of the stuff
in his fridge.
He's eaten one half of one biscuit,
I don't think he's touched that milk.
Intriguing.
So a lot of one and done then.
Got a call on his answering
machine from a woman
who wonders if he's heard the news
that they found three bodies
in that park where he works.
He was spooked, got
the hell out of Dodge.
So you think he's on the run?
No, I don't think he's on the run.
He's on the run.
[Joe] Airports, trains and
bus stations were notified
to be on the lookout for
Doggett, but so far nothing.
Mm-mm.
No, he's not heading to any
airports or stations right now,
he's way too hot.
[Joe] True.
He'll probably drive aways
then pull over at some
low-cost hostel somewhere.
In his mind, it's probably
too hot for even that now.
No, it'd probably be rest stops
and back alleys for right now.
[Joe] Yep.
Where all the families notified?
Yep.
And as it turned out, Harold Hall,
the father of one of
the victims, Alice Hall,
worked at the park with
Doggett for about two months,
then he left to start his
own security business.
[Justice] Yeah, but Alice
said she didn't know Doggett.
None of them did.
Well, according to the records,
Mr. Hall once loaned his
daughter's truck for a few days
while her car was in the shop
and she drove him to and
from work to the park
until she got her car back.
Now Doggett could have
seen her during that time.
[Justice] All right.
And decided to add her to his to-do list.
Yeah, now Mr. Hall added
Auggie Doggett to his to-do list.
After the detectives
told him about Doggett
being a person of interest,
he stormed out of the house in a rage.
His wife hasn't seen him in two days.
Which means
Either he found Doggett,
killed Doggett, or
Auggie Doggett killed him.
(text thuds)
Over the next three days,
I went back to business as usual.
Back to the usual one-on-one sessions.
(tense music)
(electricity zapping)
Then on day four, it
returned to the unusual.
You have the floor, Sir.
Or in this case, the ceiling.
(Justice chuckles)
That was,
one second.
[Auggie] I'm here to report a murder.
My murder.
Well, I didn't think you
were here for the couple news.
(tense music)
You can start by giving your name, Sir.
[Auggie] My name is Auggie Doggett.
(eerie music)
(text thuds)
Auggie Doggett.
[Auggie] Yes.
I guess Mr. Hall found you.
(tense music)
[Auggie] I was murdered by a man named
I won't be needing this docket.
I know exactly who you are
and I know exactly who killed you.
A man named Harold Hall.
And I know why.
Because you're a killer of women.
How did it feel, Doggett, huh?
Knowing that your life
was about to be snatched away from you.
I hope you felt what they
felt, I hope you were afraid,
and I hope you suffered
just like they did.
[Auggie] What is this?
You're not here to pass judgment on me.
You're here to bring me justice.
I'm the victim.
Huh?
[Auggie] I'm the one
that was tied up, tortured,
and shot in the head,
and buried in a shallow
grave in the woods near
There you will stay, Auggie Doggett.
You're a piece of,
there you will stay.
Your soul will be
granted no peace from me.
[Auggie] Why are you
talking to me like that?
I was sent to you.
Because I'm the only
person on the entire planet
that can hear you, help you.
But God forgive me because
I'm not saying anything
to anybody about Harold Hall, your death,
or wherever you are now.
For what you did to those three women,
I hope you never find peace ever.
[Auggie] You have to tell
them what happened to me.
What Harold Hall did to me.
- Do I?
[Auggie] You can't just
leave me in this place,
in purgatory.
You're obligated to tell
someone, you hear me?
You have to tell them.
You have to.
You have to.
(tense music)
I'm sorry,
but the person you're trying to reach
is no longer available.
So please, rot in hell, Auggie Doggett.
(dial tone ringing)
[Zachary] People have
been calling the show
as well as stopping me on the
street and saying things like,
"Hey, Zach,
when did your show become a
forum for alien enthusiasts
and UFO conspiracy theorists?"
Somebody started a topic about
alien beings a few weeks ago
that has not yet solved.
- [Host] Right,
Mr. Hampshire, I remember.
[Zachary] And just when I thought
I'd be putting it to
bed, a new intriguing
[Host] Dude, put it to bed.
[Zachary] Expansion on
the topic would emerged.
[Host] Put it to bed or you're
never gonna shut that down.
Visitors from another planet?
No.
[Zachary] The current one being,
why do people assume alien beings
would be smarter than humans?
Look at our track record.
[Host] Our track record?
[Zachary] What man has
accomplished and created.
[Host] Oh yeah, yeah.
Man created airplanes,
man created telephones,
man created cruise ships
and microwave ovens,
pencil sharpeners and dust pans.
[Host] Dust pans?
How'd that get in there?
I was with you on the first four or so.
Dust pans.
[Zachary] Oh, and if you
need even more evidence
of how smart man is over alien beings,
man created alien beings.
That's right, they were created
by man, they don't exist.
[Host] Wait a minute.
You don't believe?
Didn't you tell that woman
you believed in extraterrestrials?
[Zachary] We were
talking about UFOs, not ET.
I said UFO
Agent Brown,
this must have been extremely
difficult as a child
dealing with this.
I mean, is this something
that you were teased about
by other children?
Well, actually they didn't know.
A couple of the kids at
school, they lived in the area,
they would see cops every now
and then or ambulance or what.
But they didn't know
and my parents there and everybody kept it
kind of hush hush.
I would just ignore them
when they would get to school
and they would say, well, what
happened to you other night?
I would just kind of just play it off.
I didn't have that many friends anyway
so I didn't care you know?
Yeah, it was kind of tough.
I'm sure it was, I'm sure it was.
On the subject of your parents,
how did your parents respond
when you first told them
that you can hear dead people?
(Justice laughs)
Well, the prevailing
word was nightmares.
They thought I kept having
nightmares, you know?
Like that's how they just brushed it off.
But at some point, 'cause I
was getting the nosebleeds,
the same nosebleeds that I get
now, I was getting them then,
so they knew it had to be
something to what I was saying.
And once the bodies started
turning up, then that's when,
when other people were acknowledging it,
they started to acknowledge it.
And so that's how that went.
You've mentioned nosebleeds.
You get nosebleeds?
Oh yeah, yeah.
After each, what's the word?
I mean, I never put a word on
it, but I'm gonna say seance.
Each encounter with one of the victims,
it's like a turbulence to
it, man, I can't describe it,
but yeah, yeah I get nosebleeds.
- Wow, wow.
- Yeah.
And what about the rest of your family,
siblings, aunts, uncles,
how did your family handle,
how did they,
was this something that was talked about
at Thanksgiving dinner or?
(Justice laughs)
No, no, like I said earlier,
they kept it hush hush.
My cousin Joe was the only
one that I could confide in.
I don't know if he was
just hearing me as a kid,
but he seemed to believe me.
You know, he was the only
one who seemed to believe me
and didn't ridicule it all
or didn't thumb his nose
up at it or something.
But he was the only one.
And everybody else was just kind of like,
almost embarrassed or scared
for what I was becoming.
I don't know, I don't know.
Well, it must have been
very comforting for you
to at least have one of your relatives to
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That you can go back on and talk to
about some of these things.
Well, he was like my
brother and he still is today.
So, yeah, I mean, he was there.
I mean, even when the bullies
were starting to mess with me
and tease me, once they
found out we were related,
all that stuff stopped.
- Wow, wow.
- You know, so, yeah,
it was good having him around, definitely.
And he's a cop now, so
Oh, really?
(Justice laughs)
Wow.
So what about a social life?
Do you have a lot of friends now?
I know you mentioned you
didn't have many growing up,
but do you have friends now?
Maybe someone special in your life?
I did, but most of the
girls knew my reputation
and they thought I was like
possessed of something.
(Justice laughs)
Well, you know, they didn't
want anything to do with that.
So it was like
Not the easiest thing to bring up
- No, no, no.
- On a date.
Oh, by the way, Honey, pass the salt,
I talk to dead people.
Yeah, yeah, no.
- Obviously.
But I had a social life.
I'll just say it didn't
work out, and that's it.
I'll just leave it at that.
Now you said that these
apparitions always appear
in the same room.
I believe you said it was
the bathroom, correct?
Right, right.
Was that the same situation
when you would hear those
voices as a child as well or?
No, it was a different house then,
but no, it was mostly my bedroom.
And it wasn't always noon then.
As a kid, it wasn't always noon,
then it started just kind of,
I don't know if they were trying
to make it convenient for me
or the apparitions or what,
but it was always my bedroom.
And at the beginning it
could be any time, man.
It could be 2:00 AM in the morning,
it could be 4:30 in the afternoon,
it would hit me whenever.
- Wow.
But then it started toning down to noon
like I said, I think they
appreciated what I was doing
so they made it convenient for me.
But no, but it was my
bedroom when I was a kid.
- Hmm.
- Yeah, yeah.
And really,
and you know the last question
that I can think of is,
is that a pack of cigarettes your pocket
or are you happy to see me?
(both laugh)
Both.
Both, Danny, both.
That's all the questions.
All right, thank you, Sir.
Pleasure being on your show.
Thank you, thank you, really enjoyed it.
Thank you very much
for joining us tonight.
We will be back next
week for another episode
of The Real Paranormal.
I'm Danny
You forgot your name, Danny?
I'm Danny Early.
Good night.
(Justice laughs)
(dramatic music)
(dramatic music)
[Director] Go.
All right, we're rolling in five,
four, three, two, and one.
Hello, and welcome to tonight's episode
of The Real Paranormal.
I'm your host, Danny Early.
Today we're joined by
a very special guest.
He is FBI Agent Justice Brown
of Malachi Louisiana Police Department's
FBI Paranormal Division.
Agent Brown, welcome to the show.
Thank you.
So, Agent Brown,
should I refer to you as The Dead Guy
since that seems to be a name given to you
in certain circles?
- No, no, don't call me,
I didn't come up with
that name, first of all.
I don't know where it came from
but I'm not a big fan of it,
namely because what it does is
It seems to be
disrespectful to the deceased.
[Justice] Yeah.
As well as it tends
to diminish what you do
almost at a level of vaudeville.
That's exactly it.
Which is odd
that you would have that
type of sensitive insight
considering you just wanted to
call me that 40 seconds ago.
Understood.
No, we definitely won't call you that.
All right, I appreciate that.
So, Agent Brown, I guess the
million dollar question is,
how can you talk to these dead people?
Well, the pending theory from scientists
that I've been hearing
is that I have a rare metallic
substance in my bloodstream
that I've had since I was born.
I mean, I bleed just like you
and anybody else, I bleed red,
but it is this metallic substance.
And technically I should be dead,
about 47% of the stuff
in me, I should be dead.
But for me, it's normal,
you know, it's harmless.
And they seem to think that
that has something to do with me
being able to talk to the dead.
But truth be known, man,
nobody knows how I can
communicate with the dead.
Nobody.
So, Agent Brown, in addition
to hearing these dead people,
do you ever see dead people?
- [Justice] No.
- 'Cause I gotta tell you,
if I saw dead people every day,
I would be hiding out somewhere
in Hackensack, New Jersey,
in a confessional,
curled up in a fetal position
with my thumb in my mouth.
(Justice laughs)
No, I don't see them.
I mean, I'm glad I don't,
because, I mean, think about it,
what kind of shape would they be in?
[Danny] Exactly.
Some guy shot in the
face with a shotgun,
half his face blown off?
Yeah, I mean, some poor woman
who was strangled to death,
her eyes bulging out, tongue
sticking out of her mouth.
Yeah, some person's been
in the water for 10 days
and they're bloated and all disfigured.
I mean, half the time I
wouldn't even, you know what?
Forget it, man, forget it.
No, to answer your question,
I don't see dead people.
Okay.
Well, hearing them is
definitely plenty enough
because as you said just now,
you really don't know
what you're gonna get.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, for a while when I was younger,
it started off, I was
hearing a lot of these calm,
soothing, motherly-type voices.
And every now and then a kid
would slip in there, you know?
But then outta the blue,
one day this guy comes
chiming in with this gruff,
loud-ass gruff, and he's like,
"Yeah, I'm Frank Bell.
I was the chief, brick masonry guy."
Whoa, whoa, man.
You know, I'm 11.
Ease into that shit.
With that gruff.
So you've always heard these
voices then, even as a child?
[Justice] Oh, yeah,
yeah, unfortunately, yeah.
So why did it take you so long to,
really, until recently,
to let anyone know that you've
always heard these voices?
Well, I mean, as a child growing up,
I thought everybody heard voices,
I mean, I thought that
was just the way it was.
But then I would see on TV
whenever some guy would
say he heard voices,
the first thing they would do
would be to put him in a
straight jacket and lock him up.
- Right, right, right.
- Yeah.
And this was like a recurring
theme on, not just one,
but various television shows.
So at that point,
nah, I wasn't saying anything to anybody.
It's definitely understandable.
Yeah.
[Danny] But at some point,
you eventually did tell people
about those voices that you would hear.
So what was the turning point for you?
The turning point was,
I heard the voice of this
little seven-year-old girl.
She told me she was
murdered by her mother,
stuffed in a garbage bag,
and then stuffed down into a hole,
in a huge hole in a huge
redwood tree in the backyard.
And this happened like 60
years prior or something.
But she said the house had been abandoned
and it was in a state of disrepair.
Disrepair?
[Justice] What?
This seven-year-old girl,
she actually used the word, disrepair?
No, no, no.
No, she used the word decrepitude.
Yeah.
But it turns out that house,
the little girl's house,
was only eight miles away from my house
- Really?
- At that time.
So I mean, I drove over
there, and man, there she was,
still inside that redwood
tree, like she said.
I mean, after some trepidation,
I finally ended up calling
the police to tell them.
Who obviously just
totally embraced your story
of talking to a dead girl, right?
(both laugh)
No they, I ain't saying they believed me
but they checked it out.
They knew I didn't have
anything to do with it
'cause it was like years
before I was even born
so that was okay with me.
Right.
So after about solving
the fifth or sixth case,
police departments all over the world
started taking me a little more seriously.
So serious in fact that the FBI decided
to make me the head agent
at the newly formed FBI
Paranormal Homicide Division,
of which I'm the only employee.
Boss
Boss
Boss
Boss
Boss
Boss
Boss
Boss
No no I'm not dead yet
At the end of death
That I have to go begging
From door to door
I don't know how
I was born out here
I wasn't left no money
From my granddaddy's will
But don't you worry
'Cause I won't cry
Long as I got my father
He'll be with me by and by
But as long as I live
Even when I'm dead
I get down on my knees
And I'll bow my head
And I'll thank
I'll thank
I'll thank the Lord
Hear me now
I said I'll thank
I'll thank
I'll thank the Lord
Listen to me
I may not be on stage
Or on TV
Singing away
No that ain't me
I been around the world
I'll be at the stage
(train chugging)
(horn blares)
Make me change my ways
And I tried
(horn blares)
(train chugging)
(train chugging)
(Mayberry sighs)
Detectives,
you told me you'd be here
in 10 minutes, and that was,
yep, 32 minutes ago.
Apparently your 10 minutes is
different from my 10 minutes.
What do you care?
We are 32 minutes late, Mayberry.
You have some place else to
be in this horse-hit town?
As a matter of fact, I do.
Yeah.
Today's the county fair,
and you promised Aunt Vee
and Opie you'd drive them
to the pie-baking contest.
Don't crack wise with me.
You tell me you'll be here in 10 minutes
then be here in 10 minutes.
It's called common courtesy.
So let me get this straight.
You two drive all the way out
here to Ellenville, Louisiana,
because some psychic told
you that there was a body
from an old homicide off of I-25?
Not some psychic.
The psychic.
Justice Brown.
Justice Brown, The Dead Guy?
Well, I don't mean that
he's actually dead
Yes, The Dead Guy.
And if he says there's a body off of I-25,
you can bet your ass
there's a body off I-25.
Hmm.
[Lester] Psychic said
it'll be near some kind of a hand puppet.
[Mayberry] Listen, for the record,
I'm not a big believer in psychics
or ESP or any of that shit.
You know what?
I'm going to play a little
bit of devil's advocate here
by addressing the obvious
elephant in the room.
We're not in a room, Mayberry.
We are in the woods.
Bet that sucks.
All right, so let's just say
we do find a body out here
like the psychic said.
How do you know the
psychic ain't put it there?
First of all, the body's
from an 80-year-old cold case.
And Justice Brown is about 45,
so he wasn't even born yet.
He's seven out of
seven on his predictions
since working with us.
Seven out of seven.
Well, maybe he killed
those seven out of seven.
And the body isn't from 80 years ago,
it's from four, five, six years ago.
Some unholy shit.
Lester, I found the Muppet.
That's a puppet.
What's the difference?
There's no difference.
Then why in the fuck
would you correct me
on whether it's a Muppet or a puppet?
Because it's not a Muppet.
They're both puppets,
but Muppets are Jim
Henson called his puppets
back in the 50s.
It's like his trademark or some shit.
He's right.
Let's say you got two dogs and
one's a collie and one's not.
They're all dogs, just
one's just a collie.
I'm so glad you two
are here to enlighten me.
But Brown said the body
would be near the puppet.
Here's a puppet.
And he was right.
(eerie music)
[Mayberry] Holy shit.
[Lester] Eight out of eight.
(text thuds)
(dog barking)
[Customer Agent] First, Mr.
Brown, we want to thank you
for being a loyal customer for 12 years.
And I'm sorry that your
computer is not working,
but I will try
to walk you through getting
it back up and running.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Bad choice of words, all right?
Bad choice of words.
The computer is working, all right?
It is working.
It turns on, turns off,
it does everything in
between, it's working.
It's just a little sluggish.
[Customer Agent] Sluggish?
You know, it's a little slow.
Right now, it's like (snaps).
[Customer Agent] Sounds like
When it should be like (snaps).
[Customer Agent] I dunno what
Do you get what I mean?
[Customer Agent] One
was fast and one was not.
All right, all right.
[Customer Agent] Okay,
with your permission, Sir,
there are a few things that I want to try.
Some basic process of
elimination best to get
Well, wait, before you delve into that,
I did a couple of things,
just to save some time.
I defragged the drives.
I did the disc check cleanup thing.
Removed the startup programs,
checked default power settings,
checked the performance options,
and I gotta say that was
a lot of options on that
[Customer Agent] I have to go.
What's that?
[Customer Agent] Sir, I have to go.
You have to go?
[Customer Agent] I have to go.
Go check on something
that we are doing or?
[Customer Agent] I'm leaving, Sir.
You're leaving?
Leaving, leaving?
[Customer Agent] There aren't
variations of leaving, Sir.
What do you mean?
We're in the middle of
troubleshooting my issue here
and you're talking about you're leaving?
Is that CompU
[Customer Agent] I'm leaving, Sir.
Six Folks common practice
to leave in the middle of a,
whoa, this guy hung up.
I don't believe it.
You know I'm like,
who hangs up in the middle
of a customer service call?
In all my years, I never, oh,
Joe, forgot about you, Joe.
[Presenter] Hello, we're
back from commercial break.
If you're tuned in,
this is the Zachary Zachery podcast.
I wanted to address an issue
that recently occurred.
I had a woman on the show a few weeks ago
who said that she witnessed
a UFO in her neighborhood.
And I got called on the
carpet by my listeners.
(text thuds)
(dogs barking)
Joe.
You're gonna have to do
this some other time.
It's almost noon, man,
you're gonna have to just
come back some other time.
Actually, I'm already done.
You have a sulfation build
up on your battery plates.
A sulfation buildup on my,
you know, I knew it was
something like that.
Joe, you gotta go.
I have a session at
noon, man, you know that.
You doing that today?
So you gonna go inside
on a nice day like today
and talk to dead people?
I do it every day, Joe.
So yeah, I'm doing that today.
I always wanted to ask you,
why noon?
Does that time serve
some type of significance
for the ghosts?
I mean, I would think
they would want to pull something
a little more creepy like,
I don't know, midnight or some shit.
It's not the Rocky
Horror Picture Show, Joe.
They prefer noon, I don't know why.
Can we just?
(mower whirring)
I'll get the door.
I appreciate you fixing the deck.
Don't forget about
your cord right there.
[Presenter] With a big head
and androgynous bodies.
- [Justice] I'll get it.
[Presenter] UFO means
unidentified flying object,
which means nobody knows
So lemme ask.
[Presenter] And it could be flown
What happens if you can't make noon?
I mean, what if there
was a hurricane or fire
or maybe you have jury duty.
Or maybe you wake up one day
and you say enough with the headaches,
enough with the nose bleeds,
enough with all the ghosts already,
I mean, what happens then?
Well, what happens
then is all those people
who were murdered, that never got justice
and somehow managed to
break down the fourth wall
and sought me out for help,
they remain unheard, unrested.
Look, Joe, the headaches, the bloody nose,
all that stuff is temporary, it goes away.
But the restlessness of
a wandering wronged soul,
it doesn't unless I help.
[Joe] That's a good point.
(mower whirring)
(water sloshes)
(phone ringing)
(phone beeps)
Detective Sugar Shack.
You found him.
You are the psychic,
Justice, you tell me.
No, that wasn't a question,
I'm telling you, you found him,
just like you found all the others.
And once again, man, I'm not a psychic.
I told you I don't
Yeah, no, I know, I know
there's a name for it.
Mediumistic communicator, spirit medium.
I looked into it.
You know the Chinese have
got a word for that shit?
Tongji.
They got another one too, it's
Yeah, jitong, I know,
and can we just get back to
the subject at hand please?
What was the condition of the body?
I hope for your sake it
wasn't like that last one,
that Kenny Dawes.
You said her face was covered
in some type of weird mold.
Yeah.
[Justice] It freaked you out.
Thank you for the reminder
of the gory details.
This one's fine, skeletal.
No eyes looking back at me.
Anyway, we'll take it from here, Justice.
That Justice?
[Sugar Shack] What?
Is that Justice you're talking to?
Yes, this is Justice.
Tell him I said hey.
[Sugar Shack] I'm not doing that.
Nah, it's okay, Sugar
Shack, I heard him.
Tell him I said hey back.
Yeah, right after I find a unicorn.
Look, Justice,
I don't have to tell you
what's gonna happen next
because there was a body here
and you're about to be bombarded
with a lot of questions
and lot of naysayers as usual.
Yeah.
Yeah, and as usual, I'll deal with it.
(phone ringing)
(lively music)
(text thuds)
(phone ringing)
(Justice sighs)
(phone ringing)
(lively music)
Ah, you gotta be kidding me.
(phone rings)
(phone beeps)
Chioma Ebimbola.
To what do I owe this surprise?
[Chioma] Hello?
Hello, Justice.
[Justice] I thought I was
persona non grata with you.
[Chioma] It's been a few
months now since we talked.
I know-
[Justice] Thanks to you.
[Chioma] It's been a
few months since we talked
and I was wondering in that
time, did you find Jesus?
[Justice] Did I find (chuckles),
yeah, yeah, as a matter of
fact, I did find Jesus, Chioma.
I found Him at a car mechanic
shop on Arthur Street.
He was working on a 1978 Buick Skylark.
I thought that was kind of
beneath Him, but you know,
with the walking on water
[Chioma] You know, I should have known.
I should have known you'd make
a big blasphemous joke of it.
You haven't changed at all.
[Justice] In two months?
No, no, Chioma, I haven't changed.
[Chioma] You are
hopeless, frigid inside,
a hopeless sinner on your
way straight to hell.
[Justice] If I'm going
to hell Chioma, so are you.
[Chioma] What's that supposed to mean?
[Chioma] What it means is, Chioma,
you are a hypocrite
with a double standard.
You think because you go to
church two Sundays in a month
that makes you Anjez Gonxhe Bojaxhiu?
[Chioma] What?
[Justice] Anjez Gonxhe Bojaxhiu,
that's Mother Theresa's real name.
See, I knew that, you
didn't, Miss Religious.
[Chioma] So because I didn't know
Mother Theresa's real name,
that makes me a hypocrite?
And what exactly is my hypocrisy, Justice?
- [Justice] No-
- [Chioma] Tell me.
[Justice] Having sex
with me out of wedlock
makes you a hypocrite.
No fornication, remember?
Isn't that one of the 10
Commandments or something?
Thou shalt not get it on?
[Chioma] Only a servant of
Satan would be so blasphemous.
[Justice] See, you willing
to banish that one loop,
that one little tidbit for your desires.
Then you wake up the next morning,
push the reboot button, and start afresh.
You go to work, you talk about God,
you go to church, you talk about God,
and you talk loud and
clear so that everybody,
including God, can hear, hmm,
just in case He does exist.
So next time you feel the need to call
and talk to me about
heaven and hell, Chioma,
you make damn sure you have a
lot more to bring to the table
than you going to church twice a month.
I talk to dead people, Chioma.
I talk to the dead.
In my book,
that puts me a lot closer
to God than you'll ever be.
So if you will excuse me, Chioma,
I have a real conversation to get to.
(phone beeps)
(dial tone rings)
(phone beeps)
(lively music)
(bright music)
(birds chirping)
[Kids] Whoa.
(tense music)
(birds chirping)
(kid screams)
(monster roars)
(electricity zaps)
(kid screams)
(kid panting)
(monster roars)
(monster roars)
Come on.
(kid screams)
(dramatic music)
(footsteps clopping)
(strap clicks)
(door creaks)
(door thuds)
(drawers rumble)
Don't move.
(tissue flapping)
(Justice panting)
(text thuds)
(eerie music)
(electricity zapping)
(Justice groaning)
(eerie music)
(Justice groaning)
(tense music)
(Justice panting)
(tense music)
Ah.
(Justice panting)
(tense music)
(Justice coughs)
(Justice panting)
(tense music)
Oh.
Before we get into it,
I'm Justice Brown, FBI
Paranormal Division.
(tense music)
All right, let's get into it.
(tense music)
So are we gonna do this or what?
Look, I know you're
there, I can feel you, so,
you don't have to worry,
I mean, you're among friends, you know?
All these people, they're just like you.
(tense music)
So I'm gonna need your
name and your residence
at the time of her death.
(tense music)
Look, I don't know how
long this is gonna last
before we get disconnected,
so can you at least try to
[Alice] Alice Hall.
My name is Alice Hall.
All right.
All right, all right.
[Alice] 1444 East Commonplace.
Hall.
[Alice] Bar Harbor, Maine.
Bar Harbor, Maine.
All right, what can I
do for you Alice Hall
from Bar Harbor, Maine.
[Alice] Why are you talking like that?
Why am I talking like what?
[Alice] Like some
sort of game show host.
Okay, Alice, I've been
doing this for a long time.
I can assure you, it's no game.
And my tone, it's my tone.
(tense music)
Do you know why you're here, Alice?
[Alice] Yeah, I know why I'm here.
Okay, good, good.
Look, before you tell me what happened,
I'm gonna need you
to gimme the name of
the person responsible
for the circumstances
that terminated your life.
[Alice] The circumstances
that terminated my existence?
Yeah.
[Alice] That's a very
mild way of putting it.
You make it sound like
my light bill wasn't paid
so my lights were turned off.
Or some parking tickets weren't
paid so my car was towed.
I was murdered, Mr. Brown.
My existence wasn't terminated.
I didn't pass away and I
wasn't called home to glory,
I was murdered.
(tense music)
I try not to use words
like killed and murdered.
That's just me trying to lessen the blow.
[Alice] There is no
blow to lessen, Mr. Brown.
I'm already dead.
And the miscreant, the
savage who made me this way,
I now know to be Auggie Doggett.
Auggie Doggett.
Auggie, is that two Gs, Doggett two Ts,
or Auggie, one G, Doggett, one T?
You know what?
I'll figure it out.
Oh, excuse me for a second, Alice,
I want go and sit down over there.
You pack quite a punch, Alice.
(tense music)
(Justice grunts)
(tense music)
Did you know this guy, Doggett?
[Alice] No, I didn't know him.
All right.
What happened to you, Alice?
[Alice] I was a member
of the Mighty Maze Gymnasium and Spa.
I would go to work out after
I got off from my nursing job
at the hospital at 11:00 PM.
I preferred that time
because there would only be
about two or three people there
so I didn't have to wait
to use the equipment.
I always worked out for about 30 minutes,
that night was no different.
When I was done and went
out to the parking lot,
there was a blue van
parked next to my car.
I thought it belonged
to one of the two people
still inside the gym.
I was wrong.
As I was about to get into my car,
the door to the van slid open.
Doggett grabbed me from behind
and put me in a choke hold.
He pulled me inside the
van, then closed it.
I passed out.
He tied me up then took off.
I went in and out of
consciousness as he drove.
When I finally woke up,
I was in a garage, still inside the van.
Doggett put my clothes
in a black plastic bag
and put the bag in a
hole in the garage wall.
Then he looked over at me,
tied up in the van, and got to it.
When he was done, he strangled me,
then drove out to Lumbago National Park
and buried me by Parkland Mountain.
I'm still there.
Thank you, Mr. Brown.
Thank you for listening.
(Justice grunts)
Lemme ask you something else.
Does this Auggie Doggett guy ever come by
and visit the grave
or anything strange and weird like that?
Freaky?
Alice.
Alice.
Yeah, I guess you're gone.
All right, look, don't
worry, I got down every word.
I'm gonna turn this in, I'm
gonna find you, all right?
We're gonna get this Doggett guy.
All right.
All right.
(eerie music)
(electricity zapping)
(Justice groaning)
(Justice panting)
(tense music)
You forget something, Alice?
(Justice panting)
(tense music)
[Karenna] My name isn't Alice.
It's Karenna Kelloch.
What?
(tense music)
Listen, I'm sorry, I thought
you was somebody else.
I never had two murder
victims back to back before.
Sorry I called you a murder victim.
[Corine] What should you have called me?
A murder victim is precisely what I am.
I'm Justice Brown.
FBI Paranormal Division.
What did you say your name was again?
[Karenna] Karenna Kelloch.
(tense music)
I will just transfer your information
onto your own personal book later.
Okay, and what was your address
at the time you were killed?
Sorry.
[Karenna] 1601 Wellman
Avenue, Se Alcove, Maine.
Mm, another Maine.
And what is the name
of the person or persons
responsible for your demise?
[Karenna] The person
responsible for me murdering me
is a man named Auggie Doggett.
(tense music)
Auggie Doggett.
(tense music)
That's the same name.
[Karenna] You said it's the same name.
I don't understand.
Oh, there was a woman, Alice Hall,
I talked to her right
before talking to you.
She said she was killed by
a guy named Auggie Doggett.
Auggie Doggett, well, what do you know?
It's the same name, the same guy.
Did you know him?
[Karenna] No.
What about Alice Hall?
[Karenna] I didn't, no.
Just trying to piece
together some kind of,
have you ever been to Bar Harbor, Maine?
[Karenna] Mostly just passing
through, at least until now.
Meaning I'm there now.
And how far is that
from Se Alcove, Maine?
[Karenna] About 20 minutes.
20 minutes.
(tense music)
Right.
Karenna, what happened to you?
What was your final moment?
[Karenna] I went shopping for groceries.
When I was done, I went
out to the parking lot,
and as I was placing the
groceries in the trunk,
and blue van drove up behind
me, bumped my shopping cart.
Auggie Doggett got out the
van, grabbed me from behind,
and pulled me in the van, choked me out.
I thought he had killed me.
I mean, he did eventually,
but I thought he had killed me then,
until I awakened in his
van in the garage naked.
[Justice] One second.
(tense music)
All right, go ahead.
[Karenna] Whatever he
was going to do to me,
he had already done it,
and now he was wrapping things up.
He had rolled my clothes up
and put them in a plastic bag
then put the bag in a gaping
hole in the wall in the garage.
Then he turned and looked
at me, a piercing look.
I knew what it meant.
He rushed over to the van
and proceeded to strangle me
with a makeshift garrote
that was already positioned
around my neck when I awakened.
He laid into me so fast, there
was no time for anything.
No time to scream or to reflect
or to get in one last breath
before he tightened the noose.
I was then placed in a
huge black garbage bag.
He drove to the aforementioned Bar Harbor,
then buried me in the
Lumbago National Park
near Parkway Mountain, where I am today.
Karenna.
Karenna.
(Justice sighs)
(phone rings)
(phone beeps)
(water sloshing)
Yeah, Joe.
[Joe] Hey, Cuz.
Just wanna make sure you're
done with your seance.
Yeah, I'm done.
Just wanna make sure you
didn't have an aneurysm
or a stroke from one of your nosebleeds.
(water sloshing)
No.
No, I didn't have one, not this time.
(water sloshing)
I had two apparitions today, Joe.
Two, back to back, one
immediately after the other.
Two?
You never mentioned having
two back to back before.
That's because I never had two before.
And listen to this,
they both were killed by the same person.
Some guy named Auggie Doggett.
Now see, I don't like
that, two in one day?
What if the Osborne brothers were killed
or the Mormon Tabernacle Choir,
I guess they'd be contacting you next.
Haven't these people ever heard
of Joel Osteen or TD Jakes?
Why don't they contact them?
Don't they get paid to do that stuff?
(water sloshing)
(eerie music)
I gotta go, Joe.
I got another call coming in.
(phone beeps)
(eerie music)
Oh, shit.
(tense music)
I'm Justice Brown.
(Justice laughs)
FBI Paranormal Detective.
Who am I talking to?
[Masimo] I am Masimo Bana.
One second.
Give me one,
think I'm running out of blood.
(tense music)
Masimo Bana?
(tense music)
Okay, Masimo Bana,
what was your address at
the time of your demise?
[Masimo] I resided at 140 Skylar place
in Bar Harbor, Maine.
(Justice laughs)
Bar Harbor, Maine.
Bar Harbor.
Okay.
Now for the $1,000 question, Ms. Bana,
who killed you?
[Masimo] It was a complete stranger.
It was a man named
Auggie Doggett.
- Auggie Doggett.
Yeah.
(Justice laughs)
Jesus Christ, does this guy ever sleep?
[Masimo] Excuse me.
Nothing, nothing, just,
oh, boy.
Okay, Ms. Bana.
- [Masimo] I am Mrs. Bana
- How did you,
Mrs. Bana.
What's your story?
[Masimo] It's a short
one, I can assure you.
One that starts with me having
to go to the ATM machine
at the local Jefferson Estate Bank.
I went there to get cash
because my husband emptied
our emergency cash box
to purchase some kind of
toy for his collection.
Sounds like a, what do you call it?
Peter Pan Complex.
[Masimo] Peter Pan?
No.
Because at least Peter Pan
could do something productive
like fly or fight.
My husband was more like Beaver Cleaver.
He was completely irresponsible and inept.
And just when I would
get the cash box back up
to a decent amount,
he would go in and take
out half or one third,
or in this case, all of it.
He was an asshole.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hey, hey.
Should you be talking like that?
Using that word?
I mean, asshole?
Come on.
[Masimo] I'm allowed to speak honestly.
So if I honestly feel that
my husband is an asshole,
then yes, I'm allowed to say that.
Well, I'm definitely not gonna ask you
how you feel about Auggie Doggett
if you're calling your
own husband a asshole.
Look, can we just get back on track here?
Let's just stay on track.
I don't want you to get
in trouble with the guys
or whoever's running the
show here, all right?
Just
[Masimo] There's not much
track left to get back at.
The whole thing happened so fast.
I left my car running when
I went to the ATM machine.
Before I knew it,
I was put in a choke hold
by this Auggie Doggett
and dragged to a blue van.
While I was about to pass
out from the choke hold,
I remember thinking,
I left my car running,
then everything went completely black.
I was out like the lights in Georgia.
Hold on, wait, wait.
I'm cramping up.
(tense music)
Oh, what the hell?
All right.
[Masimo] When I opened
my eyes, when I woke up,
the first thing I saw was a
baseball clock on the wall.
Baseball clock?
[Masimo] Yes, the clock
was designed like a baseball.
The minute and the hour hands
were shaped like baseball bats.
(tense music)
What about the second hand?
[Masimo] The second hand
was just a second hand.
It had nothing to do with baseball.
Nine hours had gone by
since this man abducted me.
I felt like I was drunk.
[Justice] How do you mean?
[Masimo] Disoriented.
When I averted my eyes from the clock,
the first thing I saw was a
naked body in front of me.
It took me 30 seconds before I realized
that naked body was mine.
And just as it occurred to me
that Auggie Doggett was nowhere in sight,
something started tighten around my neck.
It was Auggie Doggett behind me.
He was strangling me.
And this wasn't a strangling
to subdue type of strangling,
this time he meant business.
This time he killed me.
And now I lay buried in a makeshift grave
in Lumbago National Park
near Parkman Mountain
in Bar Harbor, Maine.
The grave is near the
tree marked with red paint
at the base of its trunk.
Tree with red paint.
That's good.
It's good to know.
It minimizes the digging areas.
That's good.
Okay, what else?
Mrs. Bana?
Well, I guess that's it.
I guess we're all done.
I mean, I hope,
'cause I don't think I can
take another apparition.
So I'm gonna just vamos.
All right, I'm gonna take care of this.
(footsteps thudding)
If it's okay with you guys,
I'd like to stay a little
longer just in case.
All right?
(strap clicks)
(gentle music)
(text thuds)
You changed my life
Let's see here.
(keys clacking)
You changed my life
(keys clacking)
Someone said
(picture thuds)
(picture thuds)
(picture thuds)
(keys clacking)
When you said I love you
(gentle music)
There you are, you fucker.
(tense music)
(horn blares)
(train chugging)
(Joe clears throat)
So is this it?
Is this everything?
You didn't leave anything out?
I got all that from my notes,
which I got from the people.
Why, you think they could
use more detail or what?
I don't know, I didn't read it.
(Justice laughs)
What do you mean you didn't read it?
Man, you've been staring
at it for 27 minutes,
what do you mean you didn't read it?
I glanced over it.
What's the story?
Uh.
Three women, all from
Maine, all strangers,
all abducted, raped, and
killed in the same manner
by the same guy, a guy
named Auggie Doggett.
Also a stranger.
After he kills them,
he buries them at Lumbago National bark.
Why there you ask?
Convenience, he works there as a ranger.
So what's a realistic timeline?
Like usual, I'll turn
it into the Chief today.
He'll probably look it over
and he'll call the Maine
police probably today.
If it's early enough,
they'll check it out probably today.
But they're not gonna just go out there
and start digging up the
place with shovels, Justice.
No, I mean I know that.
Yeah.
It's a homicide scene, Justice.
They're gonna go out
there and take their time
trying to preserve
every possible evidence.
And when they do find something,
they're not gonna stop what they're doing
and notify Chief Cornell.
They're gonna notify him
when they notify him.
So late tomorrow, maybe.
Late tomorrow.
(text thuds)
[Crime Scene Investigator] I found one.
Oh.
I'll just piss later.
Oh, it all checked out.
Bar Harbor Police found the
bodies of all three women
buried at Lumbago National
Park, just like you said.
Good.
I mean, I don't mean good good,
but you know-
Yeah, I know what you meant,
I know what you meant.
What about the killer, Auggie Doggett?
Our detectives went to
pick him up for questioning
but he wasn't home.
(text thuds)
Well Roger, he's definitely not here.
His neighbor said he left
earlier this morning.
So what do you think?
Clear the cars outside
and leave a few guys here?
You know, nab him when he comes back?
Nah, he ain't coming back.
[Detective] You sound sure.
Just about as sure as I am
that my ex-wife is
dating a Taiwanese woman.
Look at that spread over there.
[Agent] All right,
I'm heading out, guys.
11 biscuits on a plate.
A very large container of milk.
Okay, so he likes biscuits.
So what?
Actually, I'd say he loves biscuits
considering he's got nine
more boxes of the stuff
in his fridge.
He's eaten one half of one biscuit,
I don't think he's touched that milk.
Intriguing.
So a lot of one and done then.
Got a call on his answering
machine from a woman
who wonders if he's heard the news
that they found three bodies
in that park where he works.
He was spooked, got
the hell out of Dodge.
So you think he's on the run?
No, I don't think he's on the run.
He's on the run.
[Joe] Airports, trains and
bus stations were notified
to be on the lookout for
Doggett, but so far nothing.
Mm-mm.
No, he's not heading to any
airports or stations right now,
he's way too hot.
[Joe] True.
He'll probably drive aways
then pull over at some
low-cost hostel somewhere.
In his mind, it's probably
too hot for even that now.
No, it'd probably be rest stops
and back alleys for right now.
[Joe] Yep.
Where all the families notified?
Yep.
And as it turned out, Harold Hall,
the father of one of
the victims, Alice Hall,
worked at the park with
Doggett for about two months,
then he left to start his
own security business.
[Justice] Yeah, but Alice
said she didn't know Doggett.
None of them did.
Well, according to the records,
Mr. Hall once loaned his
daughter's truck for a few days
while her car was in the shop
and she drove him to and
from work to the park
until she got her car back.
Now Doggett could have
seen her during that time.
[Justice] All right.
And decided to add her to his to-do list.
Yeah, now Mr. Hall added
Auggie Doggett to his to-do list.
After the detectives
told him about Doggett
being a person of interest,
he stormed out of the house in a rage.
His wife hasn't seen him in two days.
Which means
Either he found Doggett,
killed Doggett, or
Auggie Doggett killed him.
(text thuds)
Over the next three days,
I went back to business as usual.
Back to the usual one-on-one sessions.
(tense music)
(electricity zapping)
Then on day four, it
returned to the unusual.
You have the floor, Sir.
Or in this case, the ceiling.
(Justice chuckles)
That was,
one second.
[Auggie] I'm here to report a murder.
My murder.
Well, I didn't think you
were here for the couple news.
(tense music)
You can start by giving your name, Sir.
[Auggie] My name is Auggie Doggett.
(eerie music)
(text thuds)
Auggie Doggett.
[Auggie] Yes.
I guess Mr. Hall found you.
(tense music)
[Auggie] I was murdered by a man named
I won't be needing this docket.
I know exactly who you are
and I know exactly who killed you.
A man named Harold Hall.
And I know why.
Because you're a killer of women.
How did it feel, Doggett, huh?
Knowing that your life
was about to be snatched away from you.
I hope you felt what they
felt, I hope you were afraid,
and I hope you suffered
just like they did.
[Auggie] What is this?
You're not here to pass judgment on me.
You're here to bring me justice.
I'm the victim.
Huh?
[Auggie] I'm the one
that was tied up, tortured,
and shot in the head,
and buried in a shallow
grave in the woods near
There you will stay, Auggie Doggett.
You're a piece of,
there you will stay.
Your soul will be
granted no peace from me.
[Auggie] Why are you
talking to me like that?
I was sent to you.
Because I'm the only
person on the entire planet
that can hear you, help you.
But God forgive me because
I'm not saying anything
to anybody about Harold Hall, your death,
or wherever you are now.
For what you did to those three women,
I hope you never find peace ever.
[Auggie] You have to tell
them what happened to me.
What Harold Hall did to me.
- Do I?
[Auggie] You can't just
leave me in this place,
in purgatory.
You're obligated to tell
someone, you hear me?
You have to tell them.
You have to.
You have to.
(tense music)
I'm sorry,
but the person you're trying to reach
is no longer available.
So please, rot in hell, Auggie Doggett.
(dial tone ringing)
[Zachary] People have
been calling the show
as well as stopping me on the
street and saying things like,
"Hey, Zach,
when did your show become a
forum for alien enthusiasts
and UFO conspiracy theorists?"
Somebody started a topic about
alien beings a few weeks ago
that has not yet solved.
- [Host] Right,
Mr. Hampshire, I remember.
[Zachary] And just when I thought
I'd be putting it to
bed, a new intriguing
[Host] Dude, put it to bed.
[Zachary] Expansion on
the topic would emerged.
[Host] Put it to bed or you're
never gonna shut that down.
Visitors from another planet?
No.
[Zachary] The current one being,
why do people assume alien beings
would be smarter than humans?
Look at our track record.
[Host] Our track record?
[Zachary] What man has
accomplished and created.
[Host] Oh yeah, yeah.
Man created airplanes,
man created telephones,
man created cruise ships
and microwave ovens,
pencil sharpeners and dust pans.
[Host] Dust pans?
How'd that get in there?
I was with you on the first four or so.
Dust pans.
[Zachary] Oh, and if you
need even more evidence
of how smart man is over alien beings,
man created alien beings.
That's right, they were created
by man, they don't exist.
[Host] Wait a minute.
You don't believe?
Didn't you tell that woman
you believed in extraterrestrials?
[Zachary] We were
talking about UFOs, not ET.
I said UFO
Agent Brown,
this must have been extremely
difficult as a child
dealing with this.
I mean, is this something
that you were teased about
by other children?
Well, actually they didn't know.
A couple of the kids at
school, they lived in the area,
they would see cops every now
and then or ambulance or what.
But they didn't know
and my parents there and everybody kept it
kind of hush hush.
I would just ignore them
when they would get to school
and they would say, well, what
happened to you other night?
I would just kind of just play it off.
I didn't have that many friends anyway
so I didn't care you know?
Yeah, it was kind of tough.
I'm sure it was, I'm sure it was.
On the subject of your parents,
how did your parents respond
when you first told them
that you can hear dead people?
(Justice laughs)
Well, the prevailing
word was nightmares.
They thought I kept having
nightmares, you know?
Like that's how they just brushed it off.
But at some point, 'cause I
was getting the nosebleeds,
the same nosebleeds that I get
now, I was getting them then,
so they knew it had to be
something to what I was saying.
And once the bodies started
turning up, then that's when,
when other people were acknowledging it,
they started to acknowledge it.
And so that's how that went.
You've mentioned nosebleeds.
You get nosebleeds?
Oh yeah, yeah.
After each, what's the word?
I mean, I never put a word on
it, but I'm gonna say seance.
Each encounter with one of the victims,
it's like a turbulence to
it, man, I can't describe it,
but yeah, yeah I get nosebleeds.
- Wow, wow.
- Yeah.
And what about the rest of your family,
siblings, aunts, uncles,
how did your family handle,
how did they,
was this something that was talked about
at Thanksgiving dinner or?
(Justice laughs)
No, no, like I said earlier,
they kept it hush hush.
My cousin Joe was the only
one that I could confide in.
I don't know if he was
just hearing me as a kid,
but he seemed to believe me.
You know, he was the only
one who seemed to believe me
and didn't ridicule it all
or didn't thumb his nose
up at it or something.
But he was the only one.
And everybody else was just kind of like,
almost embarrassed or scared
for what I was becoming.
I don't know, I don't know.
Well, it must have been
very comforting for you
to at least have one of your relatives to
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That you can go back on and talk to
about some of these things.
Well, he was like my
brother and he still is today.
So, yeah, I mean, he was there.
I mean, even when the bullies
were starting to mess with me
and tease me, once they
found out we were related,
all that stuff stopped.
- Wow, wow.
- You know, so, yeah,
it was good having him around, definitely.
And he's a cop now, so
Oh, really?
(Justice laughs)
Wow.
So what about a social life?
Do you have a lot of friends now?
I know you mentioned you
didn't have many growing up,
but do you have friends now?
Maybe someone special in your life?
I did, but most of the
girls knew my reputation
and they thought I was like
possessed of something.
(Justice laughs)
Well, you know, they didn't
want anything to do with that.
So it was like
Not the easiest thing to bring up
- No, no, no.
- On a date.
Oh, by the way, Honey, pass the salt,
I talk to dead people.
Yeah, yeah, no.
- Obviously.
But I had a social life.
I'll just say it didn't
work out, and that's it.
I'll just leave it at that.
Now you said that these
apparitions always appear
in the same room.
I believe you said it was
the bathroom, correct?
Right, right.
Was that the same situation
when you would hear those
voices as a child as well or?
No, it was a different house then,
but no, it was mostly my bedroom.
And it wasn't always noon then.
As a kid, it wasn't always noon,
then it started just kind of,
I don't know if they were trying
to make it convenient for me
or the apparitions or what,
but it was always my bedroom.
And at the beginning it
could be any time, man.
It could be 2:00 AM in the morning,
it could be 4:30 in the afternoon,
it would hit me whenever.
- Wow.
But then it started toning down to noon
like I said, I think they
appreciated what I was doing
so they made it convenient for me.
But no, but it was my
bedroom when I was a kid.
- Hmm.
- Yeah, yeah.
And really,
and you know the last question
that I can think of is,
is that a pack of cigarettes your pocket
or are you happy to see me?
(both laugh)
Both.
Both, Danny, both.
That's all the questions.
All right, thank you, Sir.
Pleasure being on your show.
Thank you, thank you, really enjoyed it.
Thank you very much
for joining us tonight.
We will be back next
week for another episode
of The Real Paranormal.
I'm Danny
You forgot your name, Danny?
I'm Danny Early.
Good night.
(Justice laughs)
(dramatic music)