The King of UFOs (2024) Movie Script
- Hello, my name is Howard Hughes
and you are watching The King of UFOs.
We hope you enjoy this
royal rollercoaster ride
of paranormal and
extra terrestrial delights,
and hopefully, by the end of it,
we'll both have learned something.
- I mean, yeah, there'll be the speculation
that UFO, let's say has
landed in Buckingham Palace
and all the rest of it.
- He would've to be an ambassador.
It would change our whole
perspective on life, wouldn't it?
I'd like to think that the
king would be the man
to meet them because
he's head of our state.
- So, just to recap.
So Charles is one of three pilots,
and you said it had a
glass dome. Is that right?
- Yeah, what I saw, like
what I saw when it was flying,
it looked like a regular helicopter
when I looked at it during the day.
But then when I saw
it at night, it was odd.
There were dome-like projections
around each of the pilots.
- The British Royal
family has always managed
to capture the public's curiosity.
While their lives and duties
are often shrouded in secrecy,
an intriguing aspect emerges.
Their interest in UFOs and the paranormal.
Join us now on this riveting journey
as we explore the British
Royal family's unique fascination
with the unknown.
- Okay.
Okay. Welcome Richard.
Thank you for joining us.
- My pleasure.
- I'm just really interested
to get your thoughts on
the British Royal Family
and the history of the paranormal.
Have the royal family showed an interest?
- Oh gosh. Yeah. Well,
you see, the thing is
that obviously most of
the, all of their properties,
I would say are old, ancient.
I mean to quote Longfellow,
"All houses where in men have lived
and died are haunted houses."
So they've got buildings
that have got history beyond anything.
All of their properties, well
have got ghosts in them.
It's as simple as that.
And they know it.
And yeah, they're into it.
I mean, 'cause they've witnessed it.
They've seen things,
heard things, sensed things.
The late queen, of course, I
mean she saw her namesake,
Queen Elizabeth in the
library of Windsor Castle.
The king.
He's seen the same ghost, Queen Elizabeth.
His grandfather, George the sixth
saw Queen Elizabeth the
first eight times in the library
before the start of the second World War.
They live with their
ghosts, 'cause people do.
You see most people
aren't frightened of ghosts
when they're in their houses,
because they just accept them.
- There's a rich history,
'cause British history,
it's ancient I guess.
And the royal family goes
back hundreds of years.
And there's a lot of legends
and ghosts in these places
like Windsor Castle, Sandringham, Balmoral
sightings of everyone
from Henry the eighth,
King Charles the first,
King Charles the second,
Amber Lynn, Queen Elizabeth
the first at Hatfield House.
We've got so many royal ghosts
and it's part of the British
mythology, the culture.
It's part of what makes us
British I think, the folklore.
Where it's mainly the Victorian times when
the paranormal became prevalent
in the form of seances and spiritualism.
There was a lot of kind of
spiritualist leaders, gurus
around at the time
that were promoting this,
talking with the afterlife basically.
Making contact with
deceased relatives, et cetera,
which is what Queen Victoria was doing
when she was interested in seances.
She wanted to contact
her recently departed
husband, Prince Albert.
And so there was this big
fashion, I guess at the time
for all things paranormal spiritual.
We had the likes of famous
author like Conan Doyle,
who wrote the Sherlock Holmes books.
He was promoting it as well.
He was taking it from
a scientific point of view
that there was something there.
- Historically the royal family have been
generally quite interested
in the paranormal,
going back to Queen
Victoria and having seances.
But for it to be kind of public knowledge
that a member of the royal family did that.
- I just wanted to get your thoughts
on the British Royal Family's
interest in the paranormal.
- Well, I think it goes back many years.
I'm gonna go back to the 1950s,
because I know a little bit about
that few contact I made
a couple of years ago
through Psychic News Magazine.
In 1950s there's a famous trance medium
called Lillian Bailey.
And she visited Lionel Logue,
who was King George
the sixth speech therapist.
And she received messages,
which were then passed on to the then king.
After George's death,
Lillian received a request
to give a private seance
at a house in Kensington,
which I think was in 1953
as far as I can remember.
She was blindfolded
and taken by a limousine to this residence.
And as usual, she went in the trance
and allowed her spirit
guide to come through,
was a guy called Bill Watson.
At the end of the seance,
the blindfold was obviously taken off.
And she found, to her surprise,
that sitting there was the
queen mother, the queen,
Prince Philip, Princess
Margaret, Princess Alexandria
and the Duke of Kent all
sitting in the seance circle.
But I do know there's a long association
with various royal families
and spiritualism, and the paranormal.
That's a long running strand through most
of the royal family, even to
this day with Prince Charles.
But I think a lot of it's kept very secret.
- And what about
William, the next generation?
- He's had his own kind
of paranormal experiences
in his house in the Sandringham.
We know his mother was
interested in the paranormal.
And interestingly, so the house
that he's in in Sandringham
is supposed to be
haunted by a Catholic priest.
And his comment about
it was, "I'm not bothered."
- As we enter the modern era,
the British Royal Family's interest in UFOs
and the paranormal continues
to captivate conspiracy theorists
and people who are
fascinated by the unknown.
- Prince Albert was
probably the first member
of the royal family as
Queen Victoria's consort
and husband that had a UFO experience
before there were UFOs
as in modern folklore.
I think it was 1875 or 1876,
he wrote a entry in his journal saying
that he saw strange
dazzling lights in the sky
like orbs flying past and
he couldn't describe them.
We would probably describe it
now in modern terms as a UFO.
At the time that word didn't exist.
So we're just kind of putting
a modern interpretation on it now.
It wasn't explained.
It was powerful enough for him
to make an entry in his journal.
So there's definitely
something to it there.
So that was the basis of
modern royal ufology I guess.
And that kind of led on to the next person,
which was Lord Mountbatten,
who was uncle to Prince Philip.
And Mountbatten had this passion for UFOs.
And his biographer, Philip Ziegler mentions
that he had this fantastic passion.
He thought that UFOs
were from Jupiter or Venus,
and he elaborated on the fact
that he thought they were living craft.
They thought there was
definitely a non-physical element
to these UFOs, which is,
this is back in the 1940s, 50s,
which is quite radical at the time.
But now we got recent whistleblowers
in the US Navy, David
Grusch has come forward,
and he said there's
this non-physical
paranormal element to UFOs.
So there is definitely something there.
- The royal family has been
interested in UFOs for decades,
but this was always a
matter of extreme sensitivity
because in some ways it was counter
to the government's
public position on this,
or if not directly counter
to it, certainly difficult
to gel with it.
And what I mean by that is
that the Ministry of Defense,
which is the lead department
for UAP in the UK government,
their public line was
always that UFOs were of
no defense significance or
limited defense significance.
And so to have a situation
where the royal family
were almost arguably denying that line
by taking it seriously, was
awkward to say the least.
Prince Philip was very
much at the forefront
of royal interest in this, though
arguably he was introduced
to the subject by Earl
Mountbatten, his uncle.
- This is a fabulous resource,
the great British UFO Learning Center.
Invaluable documents
going way back to the 50s.
And I see there's lots of pictures
of Prince Philip, Lord Mountbatten.
So there seems to be a real interest
from the royal family in UFOs.
Does that start with Lord
Louis Mountbatten you think?
- Well, it did for me
because I met Lord Louis
Mountbatten back in the 70s.
My ex father-in-law, chief
Petty Officer, Ted West,
was aboard HMS Kelly,
which was actually sunk in 1941.
And his skipper was Lord Louis Mountbatten.
For many years they had a reunion,
and I do know that my
ex father-in-law went there.
So I'm proud of my association
with Ted and HMS Kelly.
You are obviously aware
that there was the incident
at Lord Louis Mountbatten's house
when something called
Briggs witness to UFO there.
- At Mountbatten of
course, famously in the 50s,
had actually had a report of a UFO landing
at his estate Broadlands.
And he had personally investigated this
and was impressed by
the credibility of the witness
who was one of his own
employees, of course.
So, he was someone known to Mountbatten.
- So Mountbatten had this passion,
but then he also was lucky enough
to have a UFO land on
his estate in Hampshire.
And I'd say Mountbatten
wasn't present at this landing,
but his bricklayer and
laborer, Fred Briggs,
witnessed this UFO land at Broadlands.
A ladder, took a long ladder, came down,
and an occupant came out
and knocks Fred Briggs
off his bike apparently.
And this is only recently released
when Mountbatten archives,
we had access to them,
and we found this report in there.
And actually Mountbatten
had written a testimony
about it, swearing to the honesty
and credibility of Fred Briggs,
who says, I have no doubt,
no reason to disbelief
if what he said was true.
So that a fascinating encounter
by a member of the royal family.
And Mountbatten, you have to realize was
a big influence on Prince Philip.
- And through Mountbatten's interest.
Yes, Prince Philip, the Duke
of Edinburgh became involved.
And this was of course,
particularly awkward
because as the spouse
of the reigning monarch at the time,
and somebody who was perhaps unfairly,
but however you view this,
was at the center of a
number of, so-called Gaffs.
This was a potential scandal.
But he handled his interest,
I think, very carefully and intelligently.
He was always careful to put a little bit
of clear blue water
between this subject and him.
So for example, when he looked into this,
he did so using one of his royal equerries,
as an intermediary, and
that was Sir Peter Horsley.
- Even his equerry had a
meeting with, in a Chelsea flat,
with some person or entity called Janus.
Okay. And this Janus said,
basically said he was an
extra terrestrial here to save us.
We were basically destroying the earth.
And he wanted to speak to
Prince Philip, arrange of meetings
so that they could discuss these issues.
The thing is, what we think
now is possibly Janus might not
been an extraterrestrial,
it might have just been a Russian spy.
Say the meeting never
happened, it could have happened.
It's a very, very strange encounter.
And it's all documented
in Sir Peter Horsley's autobiography.
- And so when the Duke of
Edinburgh said, for example,
oh, I want to hear about this
Georgia Adamski character.
He was advised by his royal equerry,
look, don't meet him personally.
This will leak and it will
cause quite a scandal.
So do it through the intermediary.
And that's what happened.
And so Peter Horsley went out
and interviewed UFO witnesses
and with them, often with questions,
which had been put
directly by Prince Philip,
but he had a large collection of UFO books.
He subscribed to Flying Sourcer Review
and a number of other publications.
All this, again, was done very carefully so
that you didn't take out a subscription
and say, please send to Buckingham Palace.
So a series of cutouts
were used, not dissimilar
to the way in which, when
I was on the UFO program,
we subscribed to various UFO magazines
and we used a post office box.
- Prince Philip had this
passion, had this knowledge.
Maybe it was a bit
politically embarrassing,
which is why it kind of
kept it a little bit secret.
And you have to realize
Prince Philip's archives are not
gonna be open now for another 90 years.
So we're not gonna
know really the truth about,
what he actually believed.
- And I'd be interested to know,
of course, what's happened
to his collection and what we don't know.
Perhaps one of the big unanswered questions
is to what extent King Charles the third,
has inherited any of the documents,
the files, the books, the magazines,
and most of all, perhaps the interest.
- Flipping the thing on its
head about the royal family.
It might not be that their interest
in the paranormal is based
on just a normal interest.
Maybe it's based on knowledge.
So their interest is based
on factual knowledge
that they've been able to
get access to that we don't.
Maybe they're interested
because it's they know more about it
and they want to find out more.
- They know the truth.
We seem to have this stream
coming down from the royals,
from Lord Mountbatten,
then to Prince Philip.
Do you think this has now been passed on
to King Charles, this interest?
- Well, I would imagine so.
You yourself have just
looked on the computer there,
a newspaper cutting out.
Was that, what about '74 or something?
But the newspaper printed an article about
a meeting at the Palace
to discuss all manner of things.
Yuri Geller went there I
think according to that.
Why not?
- We know that Prince
Charles is so interested
to the fact that he's attended
like UFO conferences 2008, 2009.
He even spoke at a UFO conference in 2009.
- I suppose the problem
is, if you can look at UFOs,
you can look at the paranormal
and you can adopt a
jocular attitude towards them.
As indeed quite a lot
of UFO enthusiasts
have done over the years.
That's fine.
But when you tip over the
border or you tip over the line
and you think, my god,
these things are dangerous,
these things we know very little about.
- We're all interested in UFOs,
but to go and speak,
especially as someone so high profile,
you've got a lot to lose, haven't you?
You're gonna make yourself potentially
look a bit kind of idiotic or, yeah.
So why would you do that
unless you were convinced that
there was something happening?
- Yeah, there's this fascinating story
that Prince Charles flew a
prototype UFO in Canada in 1976,
and I have to say it probably
wasn't extra terrestrial,
it was based on an avro carb,
so it was a sauser-shaped craft,
with dual rotor blades.
But the funny thing is, it
had some strange magnetic
propulsion system, which
was unknown, still is unknown,
but it was observed by Dan Costello,
which gives a description
that it emitted a blue ionic flame,
and it was controlled magnetically
by a larger craft behind it.
So it's all very bizarre,
but it just points to the fact that
maybe UFOs are not
necessarily extraterrestrial,
and maybe it is some exotic
as yet unknown technology
that either the US government's developing
or Chinese, Russians, who knows?
But it could be something more earthly,
but something that's not
been released to the public.
So I think that's an interesting angle.
- Next, our story
definitely goes all the way
to 11 on the weird scale.
It involves Prince Charles allegedly flying
a prototype UFO in Nova
Scotia, Canada in 1975.
Canadian diver Dan
Costello claims to have worked
with Prince Charles on a top
secret project called Cervico
at a location known as Sandy Point.
- Yours is a fascinating story.
Could you just give us some
on Sandy Point, Nova Scotia
and what you were doing there really?
- Sandy Point's a very small village now,
but during World War I, world War II,
these were some of the
largest industrial naval yards
that we had on the east coast of Canada.
The Royals had a lot of interest there.
There through the 20s,
they were fabricating these depots
around and about in unofficial ways.
Churchill had been
one of the first sea lords
to involve himself in this,
as well as Prince Louis Mountbatten.
So this is the previous generation
of the Battens that I knew.
- Right.
- My front yard, I met Max Mountbatten
who was King Charles' first cousin
and Max Mountbatten wife.
Some of the projects
that Lord Louis Mountbatten had overseen
as Black ops when he first
took over the Royal Marines
and Commandos in '41.
There were sites there
that were still under the
auspices of Mountbatten.
He was still coming and going until '79.
I knew him fairly well.
I knew them all on the first-name basis.
My parents weren't able allowed to know
what I was doing with this project.
The neighbor was a Sapper
who had worked on illustrious
with Mountbatten back in World War II.
He was overseeing my role
and sort of intervening
between my parents' authority
and the royal's desire for
these projects to go ahead,
because there was a couple
of the hatches that needed
to be penetrated that were too small
for anybody else's hands.
And they had a bunch of the Germans,
they had child divers among them as well.
- Let's just recap.
You were being recruited, was it...
- Being recruited.
- By the British Navy was it or through?
- Well, it was the
combination of the group.
Okay. When I was sitting
down, it was Royal Navy,
their engineers in the room.
They're the ones that are training me.
And then who else is in the
room is Max Mountbatten.
Then who else is in
the room is Prince Philip.
And who else is in the room?
King Olaf of Norway,
as well as Prince Harold,
who's now the king of Norway and so on.
There'll be a half a dozen
other royals were sitting there
around me as they're devising this contract
that I'm signing with my thumb.
- So they wanted to
recruit you as a child diver
to help them on what were you doing?
- What they described
this to be as royal salvage,
and what it was, was treasures
and armaments that had been stocked up
from the seven years in Napoleonic times,
all the way up to what was
left over after World War II.
A lot of the projects did
have a security dimension to it.
The risk was real related to the sharks
and also related to the
electrical turbine risks.
- Sure.
- Part of it was me helping save the lives
of my family and my
community and the royals,
but also a part of it was the reward base
that they were dangling a carrot
in front of me at all times.
- And let's just forward onto.
Prince Charles's involvement in this area.
What happened there?
- Well, I mean, Prince Charles,
he was pretty personable
when I first knew him.
I knew, like, I met him
and Princess Ann just
down the same street of my,
where I was living, because
they were putting together,
it was an antique steam turbine
that had been built on
the site by Howden Humes,
and I think it was a
Howden Zowelli turbine.
- So I guess you mentioned in an email
that you had some information
regarding Prince Charles
and a prototype UFO.
Can you just explain to us?
- The structurals that
I was seeing regarding
the prototype helicopter,
whatever it was, UAP.
Like I say, it might've had
sort of a flattener-like tail
or a bit of a command kind of
pinch along one end to design,
show where the end of it was.
I don't remember seeing
like a tail rotor at all.
It looked like a helicopter
when looking up at it,
but it was silent.
There was no sound coming out of the thing.
And I'd seen Charles come and go there
with like commercial rotary
craft regular helicopters.
So like, I already knew
helicopters make a specific sound.
I just thought that was quite odd.
That was kind of scary to me. I ran away.
I didn't know that that
was the actual craft.
They headed out and around
that sunset that afternoon.
- And you say Charles is
one of three pilots, is that right?
- Yeah, they were short of
engineers and I think Charles
and his engineering crew had been back
and forth for some missions
to those sections already.
They knew the circumstances
and the events, the risks,
and they had the training,
and they were familiar with the craft.
What I saw when it was flying,
it looked like a regular hawk helicopter
when I looked at it during the day.
But then when I saw
it at night, it was odd.
There were dome-like projections
around each of the pilots.
And as I'd recalled there
was an armored body suit
that may have been an anti
electrical protection device
for the pilots.
And I helped test this as a diver,
and I didn't know that's what I was doing.
I thought I was testing
it for my own safety.
We needed it.
But they also needed this.
- You said it was silence
and you said there's some sort
of strange electric electromagnetic.
- Yeah, I didn't notice this
when I saw it during the day,
but when I saw it coming up
and around the house, I didn't distinguish
that it had this until that night.
And I'm looking at it and there's like,
there was a hole in the bottom
of the structure of the craft.
There was something projecting
outta there that was blue
and it was turning the
surfaces where it was interacting
with the surface along that section
into molten blue elements of the soil.
Like it looked like it was
turning things into glass.
And liquefying things sort of in my view,
it was sort of shocking obviously.
The sound that was
coming from that was sort
of like a crackling,
humming, crackling roaring,
and then it would gust its
way around the clearing.
And it was clearing the
path for the larger flight craft
that was coming behind it.
I didn't realize that there was,
that's what they were doing at the time.
- Sure.
- It was turning the
fabric of the forest along
the semifore line into dust.
And without flame, turning the branches
of the trees into black carbon falling
onto the surface.
I never saw anything
like it before or since.
And then the next day there
were a bunch of bulldozers
that came down to cover it all up.
- Do you think
the technology US pilots
are seeing now
in the skies could be linked
to what Charles was flying?
- Well, this is what I believe
because like I never saw
anything like that before since.
It didn't make sense to me looking at it.
It didn't make sense that it was flying
because there were periods
where the dual rotors were
stopping mid-flight and the
thing is hanging in the air.
And then the blue flame
is coming out at that time.
There was a ferocious fire
that took place under the
road beds directly up towards
my house that night that
fried out a bunch of probably,
I'm assuming 1920s inter power cables
that had been attaching some
of these turbines probably from the 1900s.
- Okay. So just going back to this craft
with the ground effects.
What was it? What was powering it?
- I'm assuming that it's
something pretty radically similar
to a Tesla turbine.
- So it's basically, you're
saying that Sandy Point
where you were, where
you worked as a child diver,
this has been some sort of secret location
that the British Navy government used.
You were saying that
Churchill was gonna use it
as a fallback if Hitler was successful.
I mean, I just wanna say
this story sounds incredible.
What proof do you have?
- I mean, if you come
under Sandy Point road
at Ven-Rez, you'll find some
of the concrete caissons
would still be there
or the road bed wouldn't be there.
These sections were designed, some of them,
the size of aircraft carrier cargo holds
and they went along the road beds.
Some of them were rail
line fitted and they fitted,
at 1980, they shut the rail line out.
But that would all still be down there.
Those sections have
checked to some of the locals
who still live in the area.
They tell me a lot of those
tunnels are still down there.
They could have evolved,
a plasma turbine technology
that no one else did.
It could have been
something from Tesla's day.
- Thanks, Dan. I mean, I
guess the last question we've got
for you is why should we
believe you are fantastical story?
- The Royals themselves
know it's true they were there.
King Charles knows it.
Princess Anne knows it.
Queen Margaret knows
it. King Harold knows it.
King Carl Gustav was there back
and forth before he got married.
I just happened to be
in that particular location
by God's will.
- We'll now look
at the continuing interest
of Prince Philip and Queen
Elizabeth the second in UFOs
and other paranormal
phenomena in the 1980s and 1990s.
We look at their interest in
the Rendlesham Forest UFO
incident, which has been
called the British Roswell,
and also their correspondence
with various UFO authors
and claims that they had
their own royal UFO and paranormal library.
- It's an interesting, the correlation
between Prince Albert's
sighting of orbs in the sky
and what happened at Rendlesham Forest
in 1980 in Suffolk, it
was a RAF Bentwaters.
It was a joints US RAF base
that was housing nuclear
weapons at the time.
And these strange lights
appeared over the Christmas of 1980
and allegedly a craft landed
and admitted some strange messages
to the people that observed it.
So it's a fascinating
part of British ufology
and has been called, Britain's Roswell.
It's that big, big an impact.
And people go there now to Rendlesham
and they see strange orbs
like Albert saw in the sky.
- For me, the phenomenon exists
because so many sighting
reports from people,
from members of the public
who like us have no idea,
but felt that their reports,
their sightings should
be preserved for posterity,
which is what I'm trying to do.
But yeah, I mean,
and over the years, of
course, in front of you are
a number of letters from Prince Philip then
who was very interested in the UFO subject.
Who wrote to me thanking
me for the book he had.
So yeah, that's.
- So what books were
you sending Prince Philip?
- Well, the volume's one
to six, seven, eight, nine, 10
and 11, and probably the Holt book as well.
- Both the Queen and Prince Philip held
a passionate interest in Rendlesham.
John Hansen, an author,
ex-police officer, CID.
A very credible person.
He's written books on the
Rendlesham Forest incident
with Colonel Charles Holt.
Charles Holt was the
colonel that was in charge
of the base at the time
these sightings happened.
And Charles, Charles
Holt observed these lights
and documented on his dictaphone.
And they've written books about it.
These books were sent to the Queen
and Prince Philip, who wrote
back to John Hansen saying,
"We enjoyed your book. We've
add them to our collection."
So they've definitely got
an interest in Rendlesham.
Why?
Your correspondence
between, with Prince Philip
and the Queen regarding
the Holt perspective.
This was about the Rendlesham UFO incident.
Could you just give us a bit of info
about what Rendlesham was?
- Rendlesham, it's such...
As you've seen yourself,
we have vast files on Rendlesham,
but to put it, to put it
simply, it was a series
of UFO sightings, unexplained
that took place in Rendlesham Forest
at the end of December, 1980,
witnessed by a number of airmen.
I've interviewed nearly
all of 'em over the years,
but for me, it's what Colonel Holt saw,
who's a personal friend.
And he witnessed these
lights appearing over the forest.
We have the famous memo from Colonel Holt,
which was released some time after.
I remember speaking to somebody
in one of the national newspapers,
and he said, "The trouble is John,
we can't offer anything serious
because it would alarm people."
- That I think they are
open to the paranormal
and the fact that UFOs exist,
however, they have to be careful
because they are heads of
state, heads of the church.
So there's only so much
they can state publicly.
I'm sure there's a lot that
goes on behind closed doors
that we're never gonna know.
For instance, Prince Philip's own archives,
we're not gonna get access
to those for another 90 years.
What's in those?
The Lord Hill Norton report in the 70s
where the British
governments set this report up
to look into UFOs and the reality.
And Lord Hill Norton basically
gave this report to members
of the establishment head of
the MOD Army, et cetera, the church.
Prince Philip and basically stated
that UFOs were demonic in origin.
- And Lord Hill Norton
was increasingly getting
involved in this subject.
For example, asking
questions in parliament,
lobbying defense ministers to do more.
He fell under the influence
of a maverick priest called Paul Inglesby,
who very much did buy into this
idea that UFOs were demonic.
And that was a very
unfortunate turn of events
because I had briefed Lord Hill Norton,
and just as I was, I guess engaging
and helping to move things forward,
and we had Lord Hill Norton
as a powerful figure in all of this.
Along came Paul Inglesby
inserting his bizarre religious
views about demons and
UFOs into the conversation.
- They warn them for investigating further.
Don't investigate these things further.
They're demonic not to
be touched. Stay away.
And that was the message
that was sent to Prince Philip.
So has that been handed
down to Charles, William?
I don't know.
- Like the lads here want to ask,
and like probably King
Charles wants to ask is,
what are these things, where are they from?
Do they have an agenda?
Are they in fact
intelligent or not or what?
I just don't know.
There's so many different
explanations aren't there,
but nobody can prove them.
- Nick Pope talks about
element in the British
and US governments
of Evangelical Christians
who do take a biblical
interpretation of UFOs.
And the Bible, their interpretation
of the Bible is like, anything
that's paranormal is a demon.
And UFOs are seen as
demons, Satan's minions.
So stay away from them I guess.
I have to say that's not my view.
- I tried to, not to put
too finer point on it,
but undo some of that damage
and tried to ease Ingelsby
be out of the equation.
But it was quite difficult.
But yeah, it was a challenge.
- Sure, absolutely.
Do you think any of
those ideas rubbed off on
Prince Philip and then Charles?
- I hope not.
I certainly hope not,
but I can't rule it out.
Unfortunately I've not briefed
the king personally on this.
So I don't know.
- Winston Churchill himself
blocked UFO sightings
or blocked reports from pilots of things
they'd seen during the Second World War.
And he said that was
because he did not want
to create a problem for
religion that is documented.
Time after time, I have spoken to people
and they do regard this stuff as demonic.
But you see demonic that raises within you.
You can see the devil jumping
up and down and demons
and I think that's probably
not what it's all about.
What I can say is
that many cases involving UFOs
where members of the public
have been fairly close to them
or have been influenced by
the electromagnetic radiation
that's given off the
objects will change things,
will cause problems in
the house, malfunctions
with electrical and mechanical apparatus.
- I mean, the queen
sent scientific advisors
to like UFO sites.
Her and her husband really
interested in crop circles,
which kind of can link
into that UFO phenomena.
But the idea that she's
sending people to these sites,
again, you wouldn't do that
unless either you were deeply interested
or you knew that there
was something more to it.
You wouldn't send it on a whim, would you?
You've got lots of records
here about crop circles,
and I know the Queen and Prince Philip
both expressed an interest in crop circles.
And I've been corresponding
with Colin Andrews,
whom I think you know.
And Colin Andrews mentioned this story
where he was
with a Japanese film
crew in the 80s in Wilshire.
And the queen sent a Rolls Royce out
to look at these crop circles being formed.
And Colin is expecting the queen
to get out of the Rolls Royce.
It wasn't, it was a scientific officer.
There must be a link possibly
between crop circles and UFOs.
- Well undoubtedly,
particularly the early crop circles
were just, were circular burnt formations
in the grass or in the fields.
I think they just kind of them as UFO nests
back in the olden days.
You couldn't stand in the middle
of a crop circle, which
has been recently made.
And it's fresh as a feeling comes over you,
you can feel the energy.
That there are stories.
I've spoken to witnesses who've more
or less seen these things
appear, then gone over
and then ended up with
some quite terrifying experiences.
- When humans have
interacted with so-called aliens.
The aliens have always
been bringing this message
that we need to save you.
The planet's doomed
unless you change your way.
There's always been
that apocalyptic message
and maybe the aliens are here to help us.
So I guess maybe that's it.
I know Charles cares passionately about,
the environments and what
we're doing to the planet.
So maybe that links
in with, possible alien,
alien race saving us.
I wonder if there's a secret knowledge
that's been handed down
by generation of royals.
So I go back to King James
the first, Francis Bacon.
Barron of Verulam.
He was known as inventor
of the scientific method.
Also Secret Alchemist,
member of the Rosa Secretions.
Rosa Secretions were supposed
to have secret knowledge.
I wondered if any of
that's been passed down.
- Yeah, I mean it could well be.
It's almost like ingrained
in their DNA, isn't it?
And this knowledge,
especially like Lord Mountbatten's library
of books around UFOs,
paranormal, maybe there were,
other documents that,
again, we don't have access
to because we are not the perceived elite.
We're not, I don't like to
use the word Illuminati,
but there may be an Illuminati esque
kind of knowledge hub
that we don't have
access to, but they would.
- We can speculate that the royal family
have had access to
knowledge that we don't have.
For instance, the Queen has alleged
to have requested documents from
the Vatican Secret Archives.
The Vatican headquarters
of the Catholic church as
a well-known secret archive
where documents go back
thousands of years possibly,
detailing the origins of
Christianity and such like.
But also there's this allegations
that they're holding the truth
about the UFO phenomena.
- 53 miles of corridors
full of secret documents
and items including skulls
of extraterrestrials down in the cellars
of the Vatican and various other things.
In other words, they are into,
although they believe the
world to be 6,400 years old,
they are into aliens.
They've got an observatory in Arizona.
They have an observatory
at the Pope's Summer palace in Rome.
- The Vaticans always
had an interest in UFOs.
It's got his own Cardinal
and Monsignors appointed to deal
with first contact with extraterrestrials.
So it's always had an act of interest.
So maybe that's because they know more.
There is some speculation
that they were privy to
a UFO landing in Sicily
in the Second World War
and Mussolini recovered this.
So some say they actually may have a UFO.
- And of course the Vatican an orange
saucer shaped ship craft
has been seen on more
than one occasion
hovering over the Vatican.
There is even talk that
the pope is an alien.
I'm not sure about that one.
But they know more.
They know far more than we realize
about what's going on up there.
- So what was the Queen
doing requesting documents?
Was it relating to UFOs?
I mean it's speculation I guess,
but she was requesting access to something,
which leads me onto the fact that
maybe our own royal family
have got their own secret
archives at Windsor Castle.
There is millions
of documents there going
back hundreds of years.
Maybe there's some secret knowledge
in there about the paranormal and UFOs.
- Well, I believe that's it.
She's obviously a believer
as so many of us are,
'cause my take on this is are we really
so self-centered and bigoted as to believe
that we are the only planet
in the universe and beyond
and beyond infinity.
Of course there's life somewhere else.
And again, the royal family
being in credible people, believe it.
- Aliens have made
contact. What happens next?
Contact with an extraterrestrial
civilization has been made
and after that there is no turning back.
How will the world's leaders react?
And what will our own king do
to ease his people's worries and fears?
How will it impact the world's religions?
And what can the king do as
head of the Anglican Church
to reassure its followers?
Now is the time for him
to be the king of UFOs.
- We've made first contact
with extraterrestrials.
What will King Charles' role be
to ease the fears of the population
and going forward on a world basis?
What can, and what will he do?
- That's a very interesting
and an important question.
And I think you've touched on something
really fascinating here.
Because one of the things that's emerged
in the United States
in the current discussions
that are being had is how
apolitical this is,
which is as it should be.
This is not a partisan issue.
We actually have in the US
Republicans and Democrats alike.
And in these divided days,
it's quite refreshing to see this,
that it's being handled
on a non-partisan basis.
This question is very interesting
because this is exactly
where the monarch might serve
a very important function
in for example, an address
to the nation from the king
would, I think be something
that everyone would want to see.
- I would imagine there's
a security approach to things and all this.
And so of course the king would
never operate independently
when we'd like to think
that he just sort of that
and shook your hands
with the aliens or whatever.
But there would obviously
be massive amounts
of kind of protocol and
information and advisors
and all the rest of it leading to
what I would imagine would be
some kind of public
expression of something.
But there's no way on earth
that the king would just stand up
and make a speech at that point.
You'd imagine that actually
the whole thing would be
couched in quite serious discussions
and with various political bodies.
So, if what you are exploring
is ultimately ending up
with some kind of public expression
of what's happened, I guess
that's what you're asking
rather than the intricacies
of what might have taken place
in Buckingham Palace Gardens on that date.
But that's another question.
- Obviously there will be statements
from political leaders,
but to stress the
nonpartisan nature of this
and to bring people across the divide,
whatever their politics together
and address to the nation from the king
is, I think essential.
And much as we have the Christmas broadcast
or the King's speech,
say to parliament now,
we would have, I think
we would need an address
to the nation from King Charles.
And it would be, obviously it's,
there are so many
variables in the scenario,
it's very difficult to say for sure.
But you would hope that
this would be the mechanism
by which the establishment
would send out a message
of reassurance to people,
a message of hope, a message not to panic,
and any instructions
and requests that the government
feels it would be helpful to do.
Now the government, of course,
would probably draft this speech,
but ultimately I'm sure
someone like King Charles
would put his own stamp on this
and it's a very good way
to get a nonpolitical input.
- The king would presumably
make some kind of statement.
I mean, it's fascinating to imagine.
Would there be a live
interview with the alien?
I guess the question would
be what are they here for
and what's Charles gonna respond to?
Would Charles be responding to a national
or international crisis
of a security nightmare,
as in a war or something along those lines?
Or is he responding to
something that's anomalous
and we don't know and
we're hedging our bets?
Or is he gonna be responding to something
that has a more positive suggestion?
- I just hope they never land. I really do.
But I'm sure if they
did, I'd be be honored.
I'd be pleased that the king
would play a part in
this 'cause he should do.
- Clearly there are religious
and theological implications
to first contact, however that unfolds
and absolutely King
Charles' position as head
of the Anglican Church would
be important as would the fact
that the king has previously tried
to speak out about the importance
of a multi-faith approach in the modern UK.
So actually I think
his role would go wider
than just the Anglican Church.
And he would be one of a number
of leading figures worldwide,
whose words on the religious implications
would be important and
people would listen to,
not just Christians,
but right across the range of faiths.
And of course addressing those
who don't have any
faith and their atheists.
It's important that the
king speaks for everyone.
- William, I guess like his mother
possibly has an interest in
spirituality, the paranormal.
Will he take that on board
as his role as future king?
We're not aware of him
having any UFO experiences,
but we talked about him having a ghost
and his house in Sandringham, so who knows.
But whoever is king is gonna have
an important role to
play on the world stage
with disclosure being
imminent that we are not alone.
- Of course, King Charles,
there's no doubt he's into ghosts.
I know that for a fact.
I know he's seen the ghost
of Queen Elizabeth in
the library at Windsor.
Dumfries House, the
present queen refused to go
to that house while it was being renovated
because she said there was definitely
a ghost in that building.
And so, as regard, the king,
I would imagine that if he
knows more about aliens
and ghosts, then why
he, what I think he should
disclose to the nation what he knows.
'Cause he certainly discloses lots
of other things to the nation.
And I think that's wonderful.
Yes, I think he should, I hope he will.
- Should we have first contacts
with extraterrestrials or
whatever they may be,
what role do you think
King Charles would play?
- Well that's the
$24,000 question, isn't it?
I think King Charles is a
very open-minded man.
I think he's a very compassionate man
and he's a very sensitive man.
And I think he'll be very open to it,
because I believe now he's
defender of the faiths, isn't he?
Not the faith.
The faiths.
I suspect he would know anyway
to some degree what the true situation is
as does you know, the Pope
and the people that mash
around the world, the leaders.
I think it's just a combination of things.
I think from the,
if you're bring sort of
the church point of view,
the head of the Church
of England, stuff like this.
I think this sort, the
Vatican would sort say,
well we're all God's creatures regardless.
So whatever they may look like
or appear to us that
doesn't disprove a God.
It disproves as the creative soul
that has perhaps got many,
many different mansions
and we're just one
infinite minute, little bit of it.
- For me, UFOs and the paranormal,
it's a bit like a Pandora's box.
If you and I could
just lift the lid up slowly
and look inside, we'd be shocked.
If we took the lid off and looked inside,
we'd never be the same again.
And I just think maybe that isn't,
that isn't the right way.
I'm betwixt in between.
You want to know the answers,
I want to know the answers.
Would you really regret
having to find out the answer,
'cause it could change
your whole way of life.
Your whole outlook on life.
Maybe we don't need disclosure.
Disclosure so far have
told me very little about,
as we said, what these things
are, where they come from,
what they're doing here.
They've certainly been here.
We know that anything you agree with me.
- I mean we are at an
apex of weirdness really.
We've got disclosure in the US
that's pushing forward.
We've got the CERN Hadron Collider,
about to explore other
dimensions of reality.
Our king has an interest in spirituality.
He sees himself as king of all faiths,
which is a great thing.
So maybe he's gotta explore what these,
where this may end up and help us through
some momentous change that may be coming.
- There's a role, a really,
really important role you play as king.
So to embrace that kind of, that paranormal
identity, to embrace UFOs,
that's kind of bringing
it into the public realm.
It's bringing a seriousness,
it's bringing a kind
of, a gravitas to it all.
If you've got like the king
who like is standing by it,
these people are gonna
feel validated potentially
and more likely to share their stories.
- The impact that first contact
would have would be massive on society.
The fact that this, we are not alone.
There's probably a more
intelligent race out there.
How does that affect us,
our place in the universe, our place,
if you believe in God, with God?
There's important spiritual
aspects of first contact.
Will the aliens bring their own gods?
Will they bring no God?
And by virtue of being
far superior than us,
just by the fact they've had to travel
the vast distances involved.
Will they impose their beliefs on us
in a reverse colonialism?
Possibly.
So these are massive,
profound questions that,
we don't know the answers to yet.
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- I mean, yeah, there'll be the speculation
that UFO, let's say has
landed in Buckingham Palace
and all the rest of it.
- He would've to be an ambassador.
It would change our whole
perspective on life, wouldn't it?
I'd like to think that the
king would be the man
to meet them because
he's head of our state.
- So, just to recap.
So Charles is one of three pilots,
and you said it had a
glass dome. Is that right?
- Yeah, what I saw, like
what I saw when it was flying,
it looked like a regular helicopter
when I looked at it during the day.
But then when I saw
it at night, it was odd.
There were dome-like projections
around each of the pilots.
- The British Royal
family has always managed
to capture the public's curiosity.
While their lives and duties
are often shrouded in secrecy,
an intriguing aspect emerges.
Their interest in UFOs and the paranormal.
Join us now on this riveting journey
as we explore the British
Royal family's unique fascination
with the unknown.
- Okay.
Okay. Welcome Richard.
Thank you for joining us.
- My pleasure.
- I'm just really interested
to get your thoughts on
the British Royal Family
and the history of the paranormal.
Have the royal family showed an interest?
- Oh gosh. Yeah. Well,
you see, the thing is
that obviously most of
the, all of their properties,
I would say are old, ancient.
I mean to quote Longfellow,
"All houses where in men have lived
and died are haunted houses."
So they've got buildings
that have got history beyond anything.
All of their properties, well
have got ghosts in them.
It's as simple as that.
And they know it.
And yeah, they're into it.
I mean, 'cause they've witnessed it.
They've seen things,
heard things, sensed things.
The late queen, of course, I
mean she saw her namesake,
Queen Elizabeth in the
library of Windsor Castle.
The king.
He's seen the same ghost, Queen Elizabeth.
His grandfather, George the sixth
saw Queen Elizabeth the
first eight times in the library
before the start of the second World War.
They live with their
ghosts, 'cause people do.
You see most people
aren't frightened of ghosts
when they're in their houses,
because they just accept them.
- There's a rich history,
'cause British history,
it's ancient I guess.
And the royal family goes
back hundreds of years.
And there's a lot of legends
and ghosts in these places
like Windsor Castle, Sandringham, Balmoral
sightings of everyone
from Henry the eighth,
King Charles the first,
King Charles the second,
Amber Lynn, Queen Elizabeth
the first at Hatfield House.
We've got so many royal ghosts
and it's part of the British
mythology, the culture.
It's part of what makes us
British I think, the folklore.
Where it's mainly the Victorian times when
the paranormal became prevalent
in the form of seances and spiritualism.
There was a lot of kind of
spiritualist leaders, gurus
around at the time
that were promoting this,
talking with the afterlife basically.
Making contact with
deceased relatives, et cetera,
which is what Queen Victoria was doing
when she was interested in seances.
She wanted to contact
her recently departed
husband, Prince Albert.
And so there was this big
fashion, I guess at the time
for all things paranormal spiritual.
We had the likes of famous
author like Conan Doyle,
who wrote the Sherlock Holmes books.
He was promoting it as well.
He was taking it from
a scientific point of view
that there was something there.
- Historically the royal family have been
generally quite interested
in the paranormal,
going back to Queen
Victoria and having seances.
But for it to be kind of public knowledge
that a member of the royal family did that.
- I just wanted to get your thoughts
on the British Royal Family's
interest in the paranormal.
- Well, I think it goes back many years.
I'm gonna go back to the 1950s,
because I know a little bit about
that few contact I made
a couple of years ago
through Psychic News Magazine.
In 1950s there's a famous trance medium
called Lillian Bailey.
And she visited Lionel Logue,
who was King George
the sixth speech therapist.
And she received messages,
which were then passed on to the then king.
After George's death,
Lillian received a request
to give a private seance
at a house in Kensington,
which I think was in 1953
as far as I can remember.
She was blindfolded
and taken by a limousine to this residence.
And as usual, she went in the trance
and allowed her spirit
guide to come through,
was a guy called Bill Watson.
At the end of the seance,
the blindfold was obviously taken off.
And she found, to her surprise,
that sitting there was the
queen mother, the queen,
Prince Philip, Princess
Margaret, Princess Alexandria
and the Duke of Kent all
sitting in the seance circle.
But I do know there's a long association
with various royal families
and spiritualism, and the paranormal.
That's a long running strand through most
of the royal family, even to
this day with Prince Charles.
But I think a lot of it's kept very secret.
- And what about
William, the next generation?
- He's had his own kind
of paranormal experiences
in his house in the Sandringham.
We know his mother was
interested in the paranormal.
And interestingly, so the house
that he's in in Sandringham
is supposed to be
haunted by a Catholic priest.
And his comment about
it was, "I'm not bothered."
- As we enter the modern era,
the British Royal Family's interest in UFOs
and the paranormal continues
to captivate conspiracy theorists
and people who are
fascinated by the unknown.
- Prince Albert was
probably the first member
of the royal family as
Queen Victoria's consort
and husband that had a UFO experience
before there were UFOs
as in modern folklore.
I think it was 1875 or 1876,
he wrote a entry in his journal saying
that he saw strange
dazzling lights in the sky
like orbs flying past and
he couldn't describe them.
We would probably describe it
now in modern terms as a UFO.
At the time that word didn't exist.
So we're just kind of putting
a modern interpretation on it now.
It wasn't explained.
It was powerful enough for him
to make an entry in his journal.
So there's definitely
something to it there.
So that was the basis of
modern royal ufology I guess.
And that kind of led on to the next person,
which was Lord Mountbatten,
who was uncle to Prince Philip.
And Mountbatten had this passion for UFOs.
And his biographer, Philip Ziegler mentions
that he had this fantastic passion.
He thought that UFOs
were from Jupiter or Venus,
and he elaborated on the fact
that he thought they were living craft.
They thought there was
definitely a non-physical element
to these UFOs, which is,
this is back in the 1940s, 50s,
which is quite radical at the time.
But now we got recent whistleblowers
in the US Navy, David
Grusch has come forward,
and he said there's
this non-physical
paranormal element to UFOs.
So there is definitely something there.
- The royal family has been
interested in UFOs for decades,
but this was always a
matter of extreme sensitivity
because in some ways it was counter
to the government's
public position on this,
or if not directly counter
to it, certainly difficult
to gel with it.
And what I mean by that is
that the Ministry of Defense,
which is the lead department
for UAP in the UK government,
their public line was
always that UFOs were of
no defense significance or
limited defense significance.
And so to have a situation
where the royal family
were almost arguably denying that line
by taking it seriously, was
awkward to say the least.
Prince Philip was very
much at the forefront
of royal interest in this, though
arguably he was introduced
to the subject by Earl
Mountbatten, his uncle.
- This is a fabulous resource,
the great British UFO Learning Center.
Invaluable documents
going way back to the 50s.
And I see there's lots of pictures
of Prince Philip, Lord Mountbatten.
So there seems to be a real interest
from the royal family in UFOs.
Does that start with Lord
Louis Mountbatten you think?
- Well, it did for me
because I met Lord Louis
Mountbatten back in the 70s.
My ex father-in-law, chief
Petty Officer, Ted West,
was aboard HMS Kelly,
which was actually sunk in 1941.
And his skipper was Lord Louis Mountbatten.
For many years they had a reunion,
and I do know that my
ex father-in-law went there.
So I'm proud of my association
with Ted and HMS Kelly.
You are obviously aware
that there was the incident
at Lord Louis Mountbatten's house
when something called
Briggs witness to UFO there.
- At Mountbatten of
course, famously in the 50s,
had actually had a report of a UFO landing
at his estate Broadlands.
And he had personally investigated this
and was impressed by
the credibility of the witness
who was one of his own
employees, of course.
So, he was someone known to Mountbatten.
- So Mountbatten had this passion,
but then he also was lucky enough
to have a UFO land on
his estate in Hampshire.
And I'd say Mountbatten
wasn't present at this landing,
but his bricklayer and
laborer, Fred Briggs,
witnessed this UFO land at Broadlands.
A ladder, took a long ladder, came down,
and an occupant came out
and knocks Fred Briggs
off his bike apparently.
And this is only recently released
when Mountbatten archives,
we had access to them,
and we found this report in there.
And actually Mountbatten
had written a testimony
about it, swearing to the honesty
and credibility of Fred Briggs,
who says, I have no doubt,
no reason to disbelief
if what he said was true.
So that a fascinating encounter
by a member of the royal family.
And Mountbatten, you have to realize was
a big influence on Prince Philip.
- And through Mountbatten's interest.
Yes, Prince Philip, the Duke
of Edinburgh became involved.
And this was of course,
particularly awkward
because as the spouse
of the reigning monarch at the time,
and somebody who was perhaps unfairly,
but however you view this,
was at the center of a
number of, so-called Gaffs.
This was a potential scandal.
But he handled his interest,
I think, very carefully and intelligently.
He was always careful to put a little bit
of clear blue water
between this subject and him.
So for example, when he looked into this,
he did so using one of his royal equerries,
as an intermediary, and
that was Sir Peter Horsley.
- Even his equerry had a
meeting with, in a Chelsea flat,
with some person or entity called Janus.
Okay. And this Janus said,
basically said he was an
extra terrestrial here to save us.
We were basically destroying the earth.
And he wanted to speak to
Prince Philip, arrange of meetings
so that they could discuss these issues.
The thing is, what we think
now is possibly Janus might not
been an extraterrestrial,
it might have just been a Russian spy.
Say the meeting never
happened, it could have happened.
It's a very, very strange encounter.
And it's all documented
in Sir Peter Horsley's autobiography.
- And so when the Duke of
Edinburgh said, for example,
oh, I want to hear about this
Georgia Adamski character.
He was advised by his royal equerry,
look, don't meet him personally.
This will leak and it will
cause quite a scandal.
So do it through the intermediary.
And that's what happened.
And so Peter Horsley went out
and interviewed UFO witnesses
and with them, often with questions,
which had been put
directly by Prince Philip,
but he had a large collection of UFO books.
He subscribed to Flying Sourcer Review
and a number of other publications.
All this, again, was done very carefully so
that you didn't take out a subscription
and say, please send to Buckingham Palace.
So a series of cutouts
were used, not dissimilar
to the way in which, when
I was on the UFO program,
we subscribed to various UFO magazines
and we used a post office box.
- Prince Philip had this
passion, had this knowledge.
Maybe it was a bit
politically embarrassing,
which is why it kind of
kept it a little bit secret.
And you have to realize
Prince Philip's archives are not
gonna be open now for another 90 years.
So we're not gonna
know really the truth about,
what he actually believed.
- And I'd be interested to know,
of course, what's happened
to his collection and what we don't know.
Perhaps one of the big unanswered questions
is to what extent King Charles the third,
has inherited any of the documents,
the files, the books, the magazines,
and most of all, perhaps the interest.
- Flipping the thing on its
head about the royal family.
It might not be that their interest
in the paranormal is based
on just a normal interest.
Maybe it's based on knowledge.
So their interest is based
on factual knowledge
that they've been able to
get access to that we don't.
Maybe they're interested
because it's they know more about it
and they want to find out more.
- They know the truth.
We seem to have this stream
coming down from the royals,
from Lord Mountbatten,
then to Prince Philip.
Do you think this has now been passed on
to King Charles, this interest?
- Well, I would imagine so.
You yourself have just
looked on the computer there,
a newspaper cutting out.
Was that, what about '74 or something?
But the newspaper printed an article about
a meeting at the Palace
to discuss all manner of things.
Yuri Geller went there I
think according to that.
Why not?
- We know that Prince
Charles is so interested
to the fact that he's attended
like UFO conferences 2008, 2009.
He even spoke at a UFO conference in 2009.
- I suppose the problem
is, if you can look at UFOs,
you can look at the paranormal
and you can adopt a
jocular attitude towards them.
As indeed quite a lot
of UFO enthusiasts
have done over the years.
That's fine.
But when you tip over the
border or you tip over the line
and you think, my god,
these things are dangerous,
these things we know very little about.
- We're all interested in UFOs,
but to go and speak,
especially as someone so high profile,
you've got a lot to lose, haven't you?
You're gonna make yourself potentially
look a bit kind of idiotic or, yeah.
So why would you do that
unless you were convinced that
there was something happening?
- Yeah, there's this fascinating story
that Prince Charles flew a
prototype UFO in Canada in 1976,
and I have to say it probably
wasn't extra terrestrial,
it was based on an avro carb,
so it was a sauser-shaped craft,
with dual rotor blades.
But the funny thing is, it
had some strange magnetic
propulsion system, which
was unknown, still is unknown,
but it was observed by Dan Costello,
which gives a description
that it emitted a blue ionic flame,
and it was controlled magnetically
by a larger craft behind it.
So it's all very bizarre,
but it just points to the fact that
maybe UFOs are not
necessarily extraterrestrial,
and maybe it is some exotic
as yet unknown technology
that either the US government's developing
or Chinese, Russians, who knows?
But it could be something more earthly,
but something that's not
been released to the public.
So I think that's an interesting angle.
- Next, our story
definitely goes all the way
to 11 on the weird scale.
It involves Prince Charles allegedly flying
a prototype UFO in Nova
Scotia, Canada in 1975.
Canadian diver Dan
Costello claims to have worked
with Prince Charles on a top
secret project called Cervico
at a location known as Sandy Point.
- Yours is a fascinating story.
Could you just give us some
on Sandy Point, Nova Scotia
and what you were doing there really?
- Sandy Point's a very small village now,
but during World War I, world War II,
these were some of the
largest industrial naval yards
that we had on the east coast of Canada.
The Royals had a lot of interest there.
There through the 20s,
they were fabricating these depots
around and about in unofficial ways.
Churchill had been
one of the first sea lords
to involve himself in this,
as well as Prince Louis Mountbatten.
So this is the previous generation
of the Battens that I knew.
- Right.
- My front yard, I met Max Mountbatten
who was King Charles' first cousin
and Max Mountbatten wife.
Some of the projects
that Lord Louis Mountbatten had overseen
as Black ops when he first
took over the Royal Marines
and Commandos in '41.
There were sites there
that were still under the
auspices of Mountbatten.
He was still coming and going until '79.
I knew him fairly well.
I knew them all on the first-name basis.
My parents weren't able allowed to know
what I was doing with this project.
The neighbor was a Sapper
who had worked on illustrious
with Mountbatten back in World War II.
He was overseeing my role
and sort of intervening
between my parents' authority
and the royal's desire for
these projects to go ahead,
because there was a couple
of the hatches that needed
to be penetrated that were too small
for anybody else's hands.
And they had a bunch of the Germans,
they had child divers among them as well.
- Let's just recap.
You were being recruited, was it...
- Being recruited.
- By the British Navy was it or through?
- Well, it was the
combination of the group.
Okay. When I was sitting
down, it was Royal Navy,
their engineers in the room.
They're the ones that are training me.
And then who else is in the
room is Max Mountbatten.
Then who else is in
the room is Prince Philip.
And who else is in the room?
King Olaf of Norway,
as well as Prince Harold,
who's now the king of Norway and so on.
There'll be a half a dozen
other royals were sitting there
around me as they're devising this contract
that I'm signing with my thumb.
- So they wanted to
recruit you as a child diver
to help them on what were you doing?
- What they described
this to be as royal salvage,
and what it was, was treasures
and armaments that had been stocked up
from the seven years in Napoleonic times,
all the way up to what was
left over after World War II.
A lot of the projects did
have a security dimension to it.
The risk was real related to the sharks
and also related to the
electrical turbine risks.
- Sure.
- Part of it was me helping save the lives
of my family and my
community and the royals,
but also a part of it was the reward base
that they were dangling a carrot
in front of me at all times.
- And let's just forward onto.
Prince Charles's involvement in this area.
What happened there?
- Well, I mean, Prince Charles,
he was pretty personable
when I first knew him.
I knew, like, I met him
and Princess Ann just
down the same street of my,
where I was living, because
they were putting together,
it was an antique steam turbine
that had been built on
the site by Howden Humes,
and I think it was a
Howden Zowelli turbine.
- So I guess you mentioned in an email
that you had some information
regarding Prince Charles
and a prototype UFO.
Can you just explain to us?
- The structurals that
I was seeing regarding
the prototype helicopter,
whatever it was, UAP.
Like I say, it might've had
sort of a flattener-like tail
or a bit of a command kind of
pinch along one end to design,
show where the end of it was.
I don't remember seeing
like a tail rotor at all.
It looked like a helicopter
when looking up at it,
but it was silent.
There was no sound coming out of the thing.
And I'd seen Charles come and go there
with like commercial rotary
craft regular helicopters.
So like, I already knew
helicopters make a specific sound.
I just thought that was quite odd.
That was kind of scary to me. I ran away.
I didn't know that that
was the actual craft.
They headed out and around
that sunset that afternoon.
- And you say Charles is
one of three pilots, is that right?
- Yeah, they were short of
engineers and I think Charles
and his engineering crew had been back
and forth for some missions
to those sections already.
They knew the circumstances
and the events, the risks,
and they had the training,
and they were familiar with the craft.
What I saw when it was flying,
it looked like a regular hawk helicopter
when I looked at it during the day.
But then when I saw
it at night, it was odd.
There were dome-like projections
around each of the pilots.
And as I'd recalled there
was an armored body suit
that may have been an anti
electrical protection device
for the pilots.
And I helped test this as a diver,
and I didn't know that's what I was doing.
I thought I was testing
it for my own safety.
We needed it.
But they also needed this.
- You said it was silence
and you said there's some sort
of strange electric electromagnetic.
- Yeah, I didn't notice this
when I saw it during the day,
but when I saw it coming up
and around the house, I didn't distinguish
that it had this until that night.
And I'm looking at it and there's like,
there was a hole in the bottom
of the structure of the craft.
There was something projecting
outta there that was blue
and it was turning the
surfaces where it was interacting
with the surface along that section
into molten blue elements of the soil.
Like it looked like it was
turning things into glass.
And liquefying things sort of in my view,
it was sort of shocking obviously.
The sound that was
coming from that was sort
of like a crackling,
humming, crackling roaring,
and then it would gust its
way around the clearing.
And it was clearing the
path for the larger flight craft
that was coming behind it.
I didn't realize that there was,
that's what they were doing at the time.
- Sure.
- It was turning the
fabric of the forest along
the semifore line into dust.
And without flame, turning the branches
of the trees into black carbon falling
onto the surface.
I never saw anything
like it before or since.
And then the next day there
were a bunch of bulldozers
that came down to cover it all up.
- Do you think
the technology US pilots
are seeing now
in the skies could be linked
to what Charles was flying?
- Well, this is what I believe
because like I never saw
anything like that before since.
It didn't make sense to me looking at it.
It didn't make sense that it was flying
because there were periods
where the dual rotors were
stopping mid-flight and the
thing is hanging in the air.
And then the blue flame
is coming out at that time.
There was a ferocious fire
that took place under the
road beds directly up towards
my house that night that
fried out a bunch of probably,
I'm assuming 1920s inter power cables
that had been attaching some
of these turbines probably from the 1900s.
- Okay. So just going back to this craft
with the ground effects.
What was it? What was powering it?
- I'm assuming that it's
something pretty radically similar
to a Tesla turbine.
- So it's basically, you're
saying that Sandy Point
where you were, where
you worked as a child diver,
this has been some sort of secret location
that the British Navy government used.
You were saying that
Churchill was gonna use it
as a fallback if Hitler was successful.
I mean, I just wanna say
this story sounds incredible.
What proof do you have?
- I mean, if you come
under Sandy Point road
at Ven-Rez, you'll find some
of the concrete caissons
would still be there
or the road bed wouldn't be there.
These sections were designed, some of them,
the size of aircraft carrier cargo holds
and they went along the road beds.
Some of them were rail
line fitted and they fitted,
at 1980, they shut the rail line out.
But that would all still be down there.
Those sections have
checked to some of the locals
who still live in the area.
They tell me a lot of those
tunnels are still down there.
They could have evolved,
a plasma turbine technology
that no one else did.
It could have been
something from Tesla's day.
- Thanks, Dan. I mean, I
guess the last question we've got
for you is why should we
believe you are fantastical story?
- The Royals themselves
know it's true they were there.
King Charles knows it.
Princess Anne knows it.
Queen Margaret knows
it. King Harold knows it.
King Carl Gustav was there back
and forth before he got married.
I just happened to be
in that particular location
by God's will.
- We'll now look
at the continuing interest
of Prince Philip and Queen
Elizabeth the second in UFOs
and other paranormal
phenomena in the 1980s and 1990s.
We look at their interest in
the Rendlesham Forest UFO
incident, which has been
called the British Roswell,
and also their correspondence
with various UFO authors
and claims that they had
their own royal UFO and paranormal library.
- It's an interesting, the correlation
between Prince Albert's
sighting of orbs in the sky
and what happened at Rendlesham Forest
in 1980 in Suffolk, it
was a RAF Bentwaters.
It was a joints US RAF base
that was housing nuclear
weapons at the time.
And these strange lights
appeared over the Christmas of 1980
and allegedly a craft landed
and admitted some strange messages
to the people that observed it.
So it's a fascinating
part of British ufology
and has been called, Britain's Roswell.
It's that big, big an impact.
And people go there now to Rendlesham
and they see strange orbs
like Albert saw in the sky.
- For me, the phenomenon exists
because so many sighting
reports from people,
from members of the public
who like us have no idea,
but felt that their reports,
their sightings should
be preserved for posterity,
which is what I'm trying to do.
But yeah, I mean,
and over the years, of
course, in front of you are
a number of letters from Prince Philip then
who was very interested in the UFO subject.
Who wrote to me thanking
me for the book he had.
So yeah, that's.
- So what books were
you sending Prince Philip?
- Well, the volume's one
to six, seven, eight, nine, 10
and 11, and probably the Holt book as well.
- Both the Queen and Prince Philip held
a passionate interest in Rendlesham.
John Hansen, an author,
ex-police officer, CID.
A very credible person.
He's written books on the
Rendlesham Forest incident
with Colonel Charles Holt.
Charles Holt was the
colonel that was in charge
of the base at the time
these sightings happened.
And Charles, Charles
Holt observed these lights
and documented on his dictaphone.
And they've written books about it.
These books were sent to the Queen
and Prince Philip, who wrote
back to John Hansen saying,
"We enjoyed your book. We've
add them to our collection."
So they've definitely got
an interest in Rendlesham.
Why?
Your correspondence
between, with Prince Philip
and the Queen regarding
the Holt perspective.
This was about the Rendlesham UFO incident.
Could you just give us a bit of info
about what Rendlesham was?
- Rendlesham, it's such...
As you've seen yourself,
we have vast files on Rendlesham,
but to put it, to put it
simply, it was a series
of UFO sightings, unexplained
that took place in Rendlesham Forest
at the end of December, 1980,
witnessed by a number of airmen.
I've interviewed nearly
all of 'em over the years,
but for me, it's what Colonel Holt saw,
who's a personal friend.
And he witnessed these
lights appearing over the forest.
We have the famous memo from Colonel Holt,
which was released some time after.
I remember speaking to somebody
in one of the national newspapers,
and he said, "The trouble is John,
we can't offer anything serious
because it would alarm people."
- That I think they are
open to the paranormal
and the fact that UFOs exist,
however, they have to be careful
because they are heads of
state, heads of the church.
So there's only so much
they can state publicly.
I'm sure there's a lot that
goes on behind closed doors
that we're never gonna know.
For instance, Prince Philip's own archives,
we're not gonna get access
to those for another 90 years.
What's in those?
The Lord Hill Norton report in the 70s
where the British
governments set this report up
to look into UFOs and the reality.
And Lord Hill Norton basically
gave this report to members
of the establishment head of
the MOD Army, et cetera, the church.
Prince Philip and basically stated
that UFOs were demonic in origin.
- And Lord Hill Norton
was increasingly getting
involved in this subject.
For example, asking
questions in parliament,
lobbying defense ministers to do more.
He fell under the influence
of a maverick priest called Paul Inglesby,
who very much did buy into this
idea that UFOs were demonic.
And that was a very
unfortunate turn of events
because I had briefed Lord Hill Norton,
and just as I was, I guess engaging
and helping to move things forward,
and we had Lord Hill Norton
as a powerful figure in all of this.
Along came Paul Inglesby
inserting his bizarre religious
views about demons and
UFOs into the conversation.
- They warn them for investigating further.
Don't investigate these things further.
They're demonic not to
be touched. Stay away.
And that was the message
that was sent to Prince Philip.
So has that been handed
down to Charles, William?
I don't know.
- Like the lads here want to ask,
and like probably King
Charles wants to ask is,
what are these things, where are they from?
Do they have an agenda?
Are they in fact
intelligent or not or what?
I just don't know.
There's so many different
explanations aren't there,
but nobody can prove them.
- Nick Pope talks about
element in the British
and US governments
of Evangelical Christians
who do take a biblical
interpretation of UFOs.
And the Bible, their interpretation
of the Bible is like, anything
that's paranormal is a demon.
And UFOs are seen as
demons, Satan's minions.
So stay away from them I guess.
I have to say that's not my view.
- I tried to, not to put
too finer point on it,
but undo some of that damage
and tried to ease Ingelsby
be out of the equation.
But it was quite difficult.
But yeah, it was a challenge.
- Sure, absolutely.
Do you think any of
those ideas rubbed off on
Prince Philip and then Charles?
- I hope not.
I certainly hope not,
but I can't rule it out.
Unfortunately I've not briefed
the king personally on this.
So I don't know.
- Winston Churchill himself
blocked UFO sightings
or blocked reports from pilots of things
they'd seen during the Second World War.
And he said that was
because he did not want
to create a problem for
religion that is documented.
Time after time, I have spoken to people
and they do regard this stuff as demonic.
But you see demonic that raises within you.
You can see the devil jumping
up and down and demons
and I think that's probably
not what it's all about.
What I can say is
that many cases involving UFOs
where members of the public
have been fairly close to them
or have been influenced by
the electromagnetic radiation
that's given off the
objects will change things,
will cause problems in
the house, malfunctions
with electrical and mechanical apparatus.
- I mean, the queen
sent scientific advisors
to like UFO sites.
Her and her husband really
interested in crop circles,
which kind of can link
into that UFO phenomena.
But the idea that she's
sending people to these sites,
again, you wouldn't do that
unless either you were deeply interested
or you knew that there
was something more to it.
You wouldn't send it on a whim, would you?
You've got lots of records
here about crop circles,
and I know the Queen and Prince Philip
both expressed an interest in crop circles.
And I've been corresponding
with Colin Andrews,
whom I think you know.
And Colin Andrews mentioned this story
where he was
with a Japanese film
crew in the 80s in Wilshire.
And the queen sent a Rolls Royce out
to look at these crop circles being formed.
And Colin is expecting the queen
to get out of the Rolls Royce.
It wasn't, it was a scientific officer.
There must be a link possibly
between crop circles and UFOs.
- Well undoubtedly,
particularly the early crop circles
were just, were circular burnt formations
in the grass or in the fields.
I think they just kind of them as UFO nests
back in the olden days.
You couldn't stand in the middle
of a crop circle, which
has been recently made.
And it's fresh as a feeling comes over you,
you can feel the energy.
That there are stories.
I've spoken to witnesses who've more
or less seen these things
appear, then gone over
and then ended up with
some quite terrifying experiences.
- When humans have
interacted with so-called aliens.
The aliens have always
been bringing this message
that we need to save you.
The planet's doomed
unless you change your way.
There's always been
that apocalyptic message
and maybe the aliens are here to help us.
So I guess maybe that's it.
I know Charles cares passionately about,
the environments and what
we're doing to the planet.
So maybe that links
in with, possible alien,
alien race saving us.
I wonder if there's a secret knowledge
that's been handed down
by generation of royals.
So I go back to King James
the first, Francis Bacon.
Barron of Verulam.
He was known as inventor
of the scientific method.
Also Secret Alchemist,
member of the Rosa Secretions.
Rosa Secretions were supposed
to have secret knowledge.
I wondered if any of
that's been passed down.
- Yeah, I mean it could well be.
It's almost like ingrained
in their DNA, isn't it?
And this knowledge,
especially like Lord Mountbatten's library
of books around UFOs,
paranormal, maybe there were,
other documents that,
again, we don't have access
to because we are not the perceived elite.
We're not, I don't like to
use the word Illuminati,
but there may be an Illuminati esque
kind of knowledge hub
that we don't have
access to, but they would.
- We can speculate that the royal family
have had access to
knowledge that we don't have.
For instance, the Queen has alleged
to have requested documents from
the Vatican Secret Archives.
The Vatican headquarters
of the Catholic church as
a well-known secret archive
where documents go back
thousands of years possibly,
detailing the origins of
Christianity and such like.
But also there's this allegations
that they're holding the truth
about the UFO phenomena.
- 53 miles of corridors
full of secret documents
and items including skulls
of extraterrestrials down in the cellars
of the Vatican and various other things.
In other words, they are into,
although they believe the
world to be 6,400 years old,
they are into aliens.
They've got an observatory in Arizona.
They have an observatory
at the Pope's Summer palace in Rome.
- The Vaticans always
had an interest in UFOs.
It's got his own Cardinal
and Monsignors appointed to deal
with first contact with extraterrestrials.
So it's always had an act of interest.
So maybe that's because they know more.
There is some speculation
that they were privy to
a UFO landing in Sicily
in the Second World War
and Mussolini recovered this.
So some say they actually may have a UFO.
- And of course the Vatican an orange
saucer shaped ship craft
has been seen on more
than one occasion
hovering over the Vatican.
There is even talk that
the pope is an alien.
I'm not sure about that one.
But they know more.
They know far more than we realize
about what's going on up there.
- So what was the Queen
doing requesting documents?
Was it relating to UFOs?
I mean it's speculation I guess,
but she was requesting access to something,
which leads me onto the fact that
maybe our own royal family
have got their own secret
archives at Windsor Castle.
There is millions
of documents there going
back hundreds of years.
Maybe there's some secret knowledge
in there about the paranormal and UFOs.
- Well, I believe that's it.
She's obviously a believer
as so many of us are,
'cause my take on this is are we really
so self-centered and bigoted as to believe
that we are the only planet
in the universe and beyond
and beyond infinity.
Of course there's life somewhere else.
And again, the royal family
being in credible people, believe it.
- Aliens have made
contact. What happens next?
Contact with an extraterrestrial
civilization has been made
and after that there is no turning back.
How will the world's leaders react?
And what will our own king do
to ease his people's worries and fears?
How will it impact the world's religions?
And what can the king do as
head of the Anglican Church
to reassure its followers?
Now is the time for him
to be the king of UFOs.
- We've made first contact
with extraterrestrials.
What will King Charles' role be
to ease the fears of the population
and going forward on a world basis?
What can, and what will he do?
- That's a very interesting
and an important question.
And I think you've touched on something
really fascinating here.
Because one of the things that's emerged
in the United States
in the current discussions
that are being had is how
apolitical this is,
which is as it should be.
This is not a partisan issue.
We actually have in the US
Republicans and Democrats alike.
And in these divided days,
it's quite refreshing to see this,
that it's being handled
on a non-partisan basis.
This question is very interesting
because this is exactly
where the monarch might serve
a very important function
in for example, an address
to the nation from the king
would, I think be something
that everyone would want to see.
- I would imagine there's
a security approach to things and all this.
And so of course the king would
never operate independently
when we'd like to think
that he just sort of that
and shook your hands
with the aliens or whatever.
But there would obviously
be massive amounts
of kind of protocol and
information and advisors
and all the rest of it leading to
what I would imagine would be
some kind of public
expression of something.
But there's no way on earth
that the king would just stand up
and make a speech at that point.
You'd imagine that actually
the whole thing would be
couched in quite serious discussions
and with various political bodies.
So, if what you are exploring
is ultimately ending up
with some kind of public expression
of what's happened, I guess
that's what you're asking
rather than the intricacies
of what might have taken place
in Buckingham Palace Gardens on that date.
But that's another question.
- Obviously there will be statements
from political leaders,
but to stress the
nonpartisan nature of this
and to bring people across the divide,
whatever their politics together
and address to the nation from the king
is, I think essential.
And much as we have the Christmas broadcast
or the King's speech,
say to parliament now,
we would have, I think
we would need an address
to the nation from King Charles.
And it would be, obviously it's,
there are so many
variables in the scenario,
it's very difficult to say for sure.
But you would hope that
this would be the mechanism
by which the establishment
would send out a message
of reassurance to people,
a message of hope, a message not to panic,
and any instructions
and requests that the government
feels it would be helpful to do.
Now the government, of course,
would probably draft this speech,
but ultimately I'm sure
someone like King Charles
would put his own stamp on this
and it's a very good way
to get a nonpolitical input.
- The king would presumably
make some kind of statement.
I mean, it's fascinating to imagine.
Would there be a live
interview with the alien?
I guess the question would
be what are they here for
and what's Charles gonna respond to?
Would Charles be responding to a national
or international crisis
of a security nightmare,
as in a war or something along those lines?
Or is he responding to
something that's anomalous
and we don't know and
we're hedging our bets?
Or is he gonna be responding to something
that has a more positive suggestion?
- I just hope they never land. I really do.
But I'm sure if they
did, I'd be be honored.
I'd be pleased that the king
would play a part in
this 'cause he should do.
- Clearly there are religious
and theological implications
to first contact, however that unfolds
and absolutely King
Charles' position as head
of the Anglican Church would
be important as would the fact
that the king has previously tried
to speak out about the importance
of a multi-faith approach in the modern UK.
So actually I think
his role would go wider
than just the Anglican Church.
And he would be one of a number
of leading figures worldwide,
whose words on the religious implications
would be important and
people would listen to,
not just Christians,
but right across the range of faiths.
And of course addressing those
who don't have any
faith and their atheists.
It's important that the
king speaks for everyone.
- William, I guess like his mother
possibly has an interest in
spirituality, the paranormal.
Will he take that on board
as his role as future king?
We're not aware of him
having any UFO experiences,
but we talked about him having a ghost
and his house in Sandringham, so who knows.
But whoever is king is gonna have
an important role to
play on the world stage
with disclosure being
imminent that we are not alone.
- Of course, King Charles,
there's no doubt he's into ghosts.
I know that for a fact.
I know he's seen the ghost
of Queen Elizabeth in
the library at Windsor.
Dumfries House, the
present queen refused to go
to that house while it was being renovated
because she said there was definitely
a ghost in that building.
And so, as regard, the king,
I would imagine that if he
knows more about aliens
and ghosts, then why
he, what I think he should
disclose to the nation what he knows.
'Cause he certainly discloses lots
of other things to the nation.
And I think that's wonderful.
Yes, I think he should, I hope he will.
- Should we have first contacts
with extraterrestrials or
whatever they may be,
what role do you think
King Charles would play?
- Well that's the
$24,000 question, isn't it?
I think King Charles is a
very open-minded man.
I think he's a very compassionate man
and he's a very sensitive man.
And I think he'll be very open to it,
because I believe now he's
defender of the faiths, isn't he?
Not the faith.
The faiths.
I suspect he would know anyway
to some degree what the true situation is
as does you know, the Pope
and the people that mash
around the world, the leaders.
I think it's just a combination of things.
I think from the,
if you're bring sort of
the church point of view,
the head of the Church
of England, stuff like this.
I think this sort, the
Vatican would sort say,
well we're all God's creatures regardless.
So whatever they may look like
or appear to us that
doesn't disprove a God.
It disproves as the creative soul
that has perhaps got many,
many different mansions
and we're just one
infinite minute, little bit of it.
- For me, UFOs and the paranormal,
it's a bit like a Pandora's box.
If you and I could
just lift the lid up slowly
and look inside, we'd be shocked.
If we took the lid off and looked inside,
we'd never be the same again.
And I just think maybe that isn't,
that isn't the right way.
I'm betwixt in between.
You want to know the answers,
I want to know the answers.
Would you really regret
having to find out the answer,
'cause it could change
your whole way of life.
Your whole outlook on life.
Maybe we don't need disclosure.
Disclosure so far have
told me very little about,
as we said, what these things
are, where they come from,
what they're doing here.
They've certainly been here.
We know that anything you agree with me.
- I mean we are at an
apex of weirdness really.
We've got disclosure in the US
that's pushing forward.
We've got the CERN Hadron Collider,
about to explore other
dimensions of reality.
Our king has an interest in spirituality.
He sees himself as king of all faiths,
which is a great thing.
So maybe he's gotta explore what these,
where this may end up and help us through
some momentous change that may be coming.
- There's a role, a really,
really important role you play as king.
So to embrace that kind of, that paranormal
identity, to embrace UFOs,
that's kind of bringing
it into the public realm.
It's bringing a seriousness,
it's bringing a kind
of, a gravitas to it all.
If you've got like the king
who like is standing by it,
these people are gonna
feel validated potentially
and more likely to share their stories.
- The impact that first contact
would have would be massive on society.
The fact that this, we are not alone.
There's probably a more
intelligent race out there.
How does that affect us,
our place in the universe, our place,
if you believe in God, with God?
There's important spiritual
aspects of first contact.
Will the aliens bring their own gods?
Will they bring no God?
And by virtue of being
far superior than us,
just by the fact they've had to travel
the vast distances involved.
Will they impose their beliefs on us
in a reverse colonialism?
Possibly.
So these are massive,
profound questions that,
we don't know the answers to yet.
He's the King, he's the King of UFOs
He's the King, he's the King of UFOs
He's the King, he's the King of UFOs
David Grusch is heading South
To a place where we don't know
He's down on one knee
And taking tea with the king of UFOs
He's the King, he's the King of UFOs
He's the King, he's the King of UFOs
He's the King, he's the King of UFOs
Bob Lazar said he went to far
For a truth we can not know
So you take your nap
and then your cover's blown
With the king of UFOs
Watch him fly
Oh so high
Watch him fly tonight