OJ Unseen: Exploitation of Evil (2026) s01e03 Episode Script
It Has Escapability
[intriguing music playing]
-I stopped drinking.
-[crew] Oh, good for you.
Yeah, stopped drinking
at 7:15 this morning.
[Todd] You know when you see
those videos of, like,
when people feed milk
in a bottle
to a lamb or a sheep?
Like it was like this --
[imitates animal drinking]
[gulps loudly]
Ah.
[Todd]
You know, no one called out
the elephant in the room.
He liked the sauce.
He was fond of the drink.
[crew] Here we go.
[Todd] Up until then, OJ
was tight-lipped.
-[crew] You didn't do it?
-Heaven.
[Todd] There was no talks
of the trials,
the murders, nothing.
But you get a few cocktails
in this guy,
and he becomes a chatty Cathy.
[Todd] You've never been victim
of negative press before,
have you?
-[scoffs]
Skewed press.
I think he is a man who got
away with murder.
He's a pathological liar.
He will say and do anything
that he needs to do to try
and get public approval.
They were just
totally full of shit.
OJ talking about the murders
is the content
that everybody wanted.
Somebody said I was
a pariah.
The media was pushing that
to the public,
and I made a comment
on somebody's show
once in an interview that
that's -- it couldn't be
more wrong,
that everywhere I go,
people are terrific.
-[Chris] Can you live like this?
Can you live as a as a pariah?
You know, I live as a pariah
on TV.
You know,
see I never argue opinion.
Somebody has opinion,
that's their opinion.
I will never debate a guy
if they think I'm a murderer
and they think
I did this or that.
And I never -- [stutters]
I will never argue your opinion.
Don't start talking
about facts.
OJ's drinking
released the floodgates.
So it became kind of a debate
with the media making jokes.
Oh, no, yeah, sure,
people feel that way.
Ten years removed
from the trial,
and here he is
talking about it.
Holy [bleep]!
Obviously, roll camera.
[theme music playing]
-I like this.
-[Todd] It's fun, huh?
I like this pizza thing.
This is
I like gags that are
that I don't have to work.
[cackling]
[Todd] Don't I know it!
[cackling]
[Todd] Did you ever,
you know, and that makes me
wonder, like,
[stutters]
I'm sure that numerous people
have come at you with like
a documentary or something
like that?
Yeah.
Yeah, well, you know,
they've done all the stuff
on biography
and stuff, even though
the facts are always
totally screwed up.
[Hank] Now, when you were
at the Bronco that morning,
could you see any other blood
inside of the Bronco?
I did see what appeared to be
stains in the interior portion
of the vehicle.
[Hank] What did you see when
you were looking in?
[Fung]
I saw some reddish stains.
This is the early days
of DNA evidence.
So the prosecution actually
felt like they had a lot
to lock this down.
They had blood evidence.
They had the glove.
They had blood in his car.
Even though the total amount
of blood found in the Bronco
was -- was seven tenths
of one drop of blood.
Whatever DNA evidence that
the prosecution thought
they had that would guarantee
them a conviction,
the defense had a way
to explain it to the jury.
[Johnnie] The Bronco vehicle
on June 15th, 1994.
When you were inside
that vehicle on that occasion,
in your testimony,
you didn't see any blood, right?
I didn't see any blood.
[OJ] We see a picture that was
taken on June 13th,
and there was no blood.
Then you see it
a month or two later,
and there were spots of blood.
But where did they come from
between June 13th,
the day after,
and a month and a half later?
But nobody seemed to hear that.
All they remember is
bloody Bronco, bloody Bronco.
That was a little bullshit.
Just hearing OJ saying
"Bloody Bronco, bloody Bronco,"
I'm just like, "Holy [bleep]."
No matter what
the rest of this project is,
you have OJ saying that
on camera?
It was amazing.
The jail in L.A., like
most of these, ran
by the sheriff's department.
Every deputy
Every deputy there that came
in contact with me,
let's say 10, 15, had no doubt
that I was going home.
A Black person in that jury,
they might not
trust the police.
They already know that the LAPD have
railroaded Black men in the past.
[prosecutor]
Mr. Hodge, is there any doubt
in your mind that in the month
of January of 1987,
Detective Fuhrman referred
to you as [bleep]?
Sir, there's no doubt
in my mind, whatsoever.
When defense is able to call
out Mark Fuhrman as being
a racist, that is the nail in
the coffin for the prosecution.
[Johnnie]
And you say on your oath
that you have not addressed
any Black person as a [bleep]
or spoken about Black people
as [bleep] in the past 10 years,
Detective Fuhrman?
That's what I'm saying, sir.
Mark Fuhrman is
a lying, perjuring,
genocidal racist.
The point they made,
we don't know if you did it
or not, but once a jury knows
the cops are lying,
inevitably they acquit.
All these law enforcement guys
knew that the verdict would be
not guilty, yet the pundits,
because they were all wrong
and all their theories were
screwed up,
they blamed everything
under the sun.
I blame Ito for allowing race
to become an issue in this case.
The lousy lab work,
the terrible medical
examiner's office,
the perjury by Fuhrman.
Forrest Gump would have
convicted this man.
-This is pathetic.
-They blame Ito.
They blame Johnnie Cochran,
whose job was to get me off.
-Why do you blame him?
-[Todd] They blamed Garcetti.
They blamed Garcetti.
They blame Marcia -- the way
they put the trial on.
I got a question.
Who did they not blame?
[Todd] That's true.
Basically, he was trying
to prove,
prove to us his innocence.
[Johnnie] It makes no sense.
It doesn't fit.
If it doesn't fit,
you must acquit.
Well, I found it interesting
that the white jury,
the older white lady, said that
there was something that
didn't make sense.
The evidence for you,
beyond a reasonable doubt,
just wasn't there.
-That's the bottom line.
You know, I know you feel
funny 'cause you got stuff
you gotta shoot, you gotta
report to somebody, but I know
this stuff, man.
I know me.
[Todd] You know, I've been
sitting there
and I've been thinking,
before I did this thing, I didn't
know anything about you.
The society really makes me
supposed to not like you.
Everywhere you go,
people love him.
And so you're not reminded much
of this horrendous,
horrific person that
everyone knows him to be.
Let me tell you, the society,
you know what,
people don't see this.
But you see everywhere I go is
like what you see.
You know?
OJ was looking for validation
through the people that were
positive towards him.
And he wanted a camera rolling
to capture that.
He wanted the world to see
how good he really was.
[OJ singing]
I'm in Heaven and I hardly
even know that I could see
The last prank that we were
gonna do in Los Angeles was
to have OJ deliver pizzas.
[OJ] You call for a pizza,
you open the door,
and there's OJ Simpson
delivering your pizza.
How you doing?
[OJ] What is that accent
you got there?
Australia.
How about yours?
[OJ] Australia?
Well, mine is sort of
a San Francisco, L.A., Buffalo,
Miami accent.
-Who's this guy?
-Hmm?
-This is a guy
Oh, filming.
Filming.
We're doing commercials
for a pizza company.
Yeah, King's Pizza.
That guy was more interested
in our cameras on his porch
than he was in OJ standing
in front of his doorway.
[OJ] Take care.
Enjoy your pizza.
No reaction whatsoever.
I really thought we'd get
an interesting reaction.
And how are you?
[OJ] $27.70.
[chuckles]
No reaction at all.
Oh, I need to come back?
-Very generous.
-OJ Simpson!
[OJ] It was a very generous tip
you gave me.
I like that tip.
-[dog barks]
-Hey, big guy!
It was kind of sad that he would
be that hungry for validation.
Because he wasn't just looking
for the spotlight, but he was
looking for people
to like him again.
[Todd] We spent a lot of time
in the car together,
and at one point,
my fiancée called me.
OJ, say hi to Carrie.
Hey, Carrie, what's
happening, baby?
And how you doing?
My fiancée did not approve
of me working with OJ,
and she did threaten to leave me
because of it.
She's all giddy.
Hey, let me call you back.
We're delivering pizza
right now.
[Todd] All right, love you.
"Hey babe, that's OJ Simpson
in the front seat talking."
Like, that doesn't help at all.
I like that.
Was that a, "Love you"
or was that a?
Ugh.
That's a little cringey.
[Todd] I don't know.
I kind of brushed it
to the side,
but putting her on the spot
and actually making her
talk to him was probably
a bad idea.
[phone rings]
Tyson, what's up?
[Todd] We'll be there
in two minutes.
[music coming from inside]
[OJ] Pizza!
Here you go, man.
That's $17.35.
We did get a call
from a local bar where
this drunk dude wanted pizza.
What was wrong with -- huh?
Well, who's gonna pay me
for the pizza that I delivered?
We never knew where we were
gonna land with OJ
Well, you go get my pizza.
I'll give you your money back.
[Martin] We just threw OJ
into the scene
and let's see what happens.
Hey, I'mma be gone.
Tell him I went up the street.
Tell him I walked
up the street.
Sir?
Sir?
Sir!
Part of the reason
OJ Simpson was
as popular as he was
is that he understood
how to play to the crowd.
But you know he shouldn't
see me.
His life was a performance.
Well, somebody's gotta pay
for this pizza.
When you see yourself
as a performer constantly,
you're playing for the laughs.
You're playing
for the reaction.
Hey, you've just been "Juiced."
[people cheering]
All good, man.
Thank you, baby.
Come on in.
Come on inside.
I'm gonna have
a quick drink.
[OJ] I know.
I just gotta say something.
OJ walked into a bar full
of drunk people.
He was already probably
five or six beers in.
[Scaachi] There's a lot of women
that he's speaking to.
You can feel the discomfort
when he walks in.
People started heckling him.
[indistinct]
It was a lot of times that
he would go out,
and that would be the type
of reception he'd get.
He tried to be as charming
as he could, you know,
but at times he'd break.
I watched him break one time,
and the guys who had
called him murderer,
he threw one down
and grabbed
the other one and said,
"So you think I'm
a murderer now?"
It didn't feel right there,
like kind of a building
sort of riot mentality.
I felt he was going somewhere
that could have put
someone in danger.
You're putting yourselves in
harm's way doing a show like this.
I didn't feel comfortable
in the bar.
I felt he was going somewhere
that could have put someone
in the crew in danger,
and we all just got
out of there.
[indistinct]
L.A. is different --
L.A. is different
than any other place.
I mean, it really is.
[Todd] I think being in L.A.
was uncomfortable for OJ.
[OJ] You know, I have a lot
of memories there,
and so, you know, you can get
emotional about that stuff.
It was probably a source of
tension for OJ to come back.
We're in the city that
this whole thing unraveled in
with the murders.
They always talking
about my white Bronco
going down the freeway.
[Martin] It was heavy.
The Rockingham house was
very sentimental for him.
[OJ]
I had 15 terrific years there.
People ask me, like, "Boy,
does that make you feel bad?"
If the Rockingham that I lived
in was still there,
I probably would have driven by.
I was in many ways relieved
when they tore it down because,
you know, it's like somebody's
benefiting from all the effort
you and yours have put
into it, you know.
Sure the ghosts of the past
were around him being in L.A.
But when we got to Vegas,
that all changed.
[Rick] Our two primary cities
were L.A. and Vegas,
and he was probably more
receptive to the escapism
that Vegas brought him.
[indistinct]
-[elevator dings]
-[vocalizing]
Elvis, the man,
the king, the legend.
I found a new place to dwell.
[Todd] We took OJ on
the Las Vegas Strip and like,
what's gonna happen here?
[crew] That's Elvis.
That's Elvis Presley.
[Rick] OJ on the bridge
of the Tropicana,
serenading tourists.
OJ Simpson.
OJ Simpson, man.
So he has a good personality.
So what?
people just think,
well, it's OJ Simpson,
like he's still famous, and I feel
people wanna be attached to that.
Our society fed his ego
so much, and that's where
I sit there and I go,
why do we put these people
up on pedestals
because they can
throw a football?
Because we really don't know
what these people are
capable of doing.
[Harmon] That was like
the shocking surprise.
People would just like run in
off the Vegas strip
wanting photos with OJ.
You've gotta understand,
he's like the beloved
Santa Claus of murder.
Alleged murder.
[Tyson]
People in Vegas loved him.
That was the perfect place
to put OJ because, you know,
it was a bunch of tourists that
were just excited
to meet a celebrity.
They didn't care if he might
have murdered some people.
People are just walking by
like they don't even know.
I understood why some people
would think I was guilty.
But once people see me
and meet me,
they can see that it's not true.
And it turns out that a lot
of the public didn't believe it,
evidently, because you see what
the reaction I get is from people.
Later that night, OJ was
supposed to play
a wacky motel clerk.
Except OJ was like completely
shit faced.
So they propped OJ up
sort of in the corner
and had me play
the wacky motel clerk.
Do you guys get a single bed?
A lot of his most offensive
and edgy lines, which is what
we were looking for,
that came from him.
-OJ?
-You the man.
He just wanted recognition
for who he was.
[Scaachi]
I don't think he wanted
to think too hard
about the difference
between the adoration he had
in the early part of his career
and then the mere
name recognition he had after.
It was all the same thing.
If you knew him, you loved him.
That was it.
That's all that mattered.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
[Rick] Post Elvis, we were at
the Palms about to close out
at the bar, and OJ
leaned over and asked,
"Yo, Rick, what are we
up to tomorrow?"
I told him that "Juice" is
gonna be a Hall of Fame
used car salesman tomorrow.
OJ leans in and he whispers,
"What if I was selling
a Bronco?"
Yeah, what if?
We went to a used car lot,
and I got a chance to sell
the worst used car ever.
[reporter] We continue to watch
this Ford Bronco
going north on the 405.
I mean, this was a Bronco,
excuse that,
with a bullet hole in it.
I did not know it was
gonna be there.
A hundred percent.
The guy that owned
the dealership had it there.
I looked at Rick
and I was like, "Holy [bleep]."
[OJ] How you doing buddy?
I was like, "Oh my gosh," I'm
like, "How is this gonna go over?"
[sirens wailing]
[reporter] There is now a statewide
manhunt underway for OJ Simpson.
[voice over radio]
Simpson may be driving a white
or light colored Ford Bronco.
I remember vividly where I was
when the Bronco chase happened.
I was in my high school
girlfriend's house.
I was glued,
just like everyone else was.
The former football great was
charged in connection
with the deaths of his wife
and her friend.
The day of the Bronco chase,
OJ was actually scheduled
to turn himself in.
We're waiting.
We are told OJ Simpson is going
to surrender himself
this morning,
possibly within the hour.
But instead of doing that,
he just never showed up.
This letter
was written by OJ today.
Before he got on the road,
he left a letter at his friend
Robert Kardashian's house.
"I have felt like a battered
husband or boyfriend.
"I think of my life
"and feel I've done most
of the right things.
"So why do I end up like this?
"I can't go on.
Peace and love, OJ."
A lot of people viewed that
as a suicide letter.
[announcer] In this first half,
next by two.
[announcer] We are gonna
interrupt the basketball game
just for a moment.
You are looking at what
we think to be the Ford Bronco
owned by Al Cowlings.
This broke into
a basketball game.
Do you know what it takes
to stop sports?
[reporter]
We are witnessing tonight
a modern tragedy and drama
of Shakespearean proportion
being played out
live on television.
It went on every network
and I was like
[reporter]
If you've been watching
television over the past
couple of hours, you've been
watching the search for OJ Simpson.
[reporter] Still traveling
very slowly northbound
along the 5 freeway.
[Scaachi]
It's one of the slowest
police chases I've ever seen.
The perception was that he was
in a bad mental state
and they didn't wanna
exacerbate anything.
When that happened, I was
like, "Oh my God,
OJ Simpson did it."
Because why would OJ be
going on the run
if he didn't do anything?
It's crazy!
It's like watching
a real life action film
and God hope no one
gets killed in the process.
[Todd]
You could switch in between
channels and you could see
different angles and you're
hoping, is someone gonna get
a tight inside the cab?
[Scaachi]
Domino's had their biggest night
ever in pizza deliveries
because people didn't wanna
step away from their television.
[Rick] The Bronco Chase was
our first live stream.
I think the reason why
he resonates then,
he resonates now, and I think
the story will resonate
forever, is because
pre internet back then,
this was one of the last
media figures that we all knew
and we all recognized.
[reporter] Surrounded by police,
by helicopters,
and by reporters,
OJ Simpson would be charged
with two murders.
After that old man asked
about the dead body in there,
then OJ loosened up.
It's a Bronco, a car that
I personally made famous.
That Bronco is associated with
the mother of his children.
So there's a cruelty there,
making light of the fact that
two people were murdered.
In our language today, we
would call that elaborate trolling.
His kids don't have a mother.
He's making jokes
about their mom being
near decapitated
when they were children.
And I heard, I go,
"What did he just say?
Rick, tell me he just said
what I think he said."
He started to go there.
Gave him all my best lines.
I like that word,
escapability.
Yeah.
The Ford Bronco is one
of the major symbols
of his former wife's murder.
And he's just lightheartedly
joking about it.
Unfortunately, they weren't
gonna let me keep mine.
The entire point of the show
is to walk along
the razor's edge with OJ
and to see if he'll fall
on one side or the other,
and if maybe we will get
a glimpse of the version of him
that did these crimes.
[OJ]
Right above the bullet hole.
How's that?
He was digging into all
of the iconography
and the symbolism
around the murder.
I was like,
"What are you doing?
"What are you doing?
You must think
you're invincible."
Oh, he just doubled down
and tripled down on that.
I think that any chance
he has, he mocks the trial.
He mocks the entire experience.
It's signed by me, which gives
it some kind of extra value.
I don't know why that would
ever be funny.
It takes a special kind
of low life to do that.
Yeah, it's about you escaping
from people thinking
you murdered your ex wife.
OJ was really
arguing his case.
Just ask me
what questions you have.
It's like he wanted to fix
every misconception by himself.
[Luc] Especially if they were
busty and they were blonde.
He wanted people to see him
differently, putting himself
out there like he was
so nice and sweet.
But it's just a show.
It's theatrics.
There's like
an unwholesomeness in all of it
contextualized by
a double homicide case that is
rooted in domestic violence
and how he treated women
that he was attracted to.
See, if I saw you in this car,
I'd be much more impressed
because you attract more men
in this car
'cause they'll think
you need them.
You have been "Juiced."
Look into the camera.
She looks very nice.
Have you ever watched a cat
stand over an aquarium
with a tightness in your chest
'cause it's a cat
and it's a bunch of fish?
That's what it feels like
to watch OJ talk to women.
-[OJ speaking]
-Oh, thank you.
[Rick] That Bronco sketch was
a pinnacle moment.
Here he is telling
personal stories
and now we're getting
more into the man.
The Bronco chase is often
credited as being the thing
that invented 24-hour news.
[reporter] You can probably
believe this in our modern
popular television culture.
People are going
to the freeway,
parking their cars and waving.
That created true crime
coverage, the obsession around
courtroom footage.
[Jemele]
The people in the case
literally became reality
TV show characters that we would
discuss like we do
"Real Housewives" today.
They were the same.
Kato Kaelin, Judge Ito, Marcia
Clark, Chris Darden, like everybody.
People always wanna profit
off of tragedy,
and people were
profiting off OJ.
[reporter] From comic books
to card games,
T-shirts to trading cards,
a trashy new industry
was booming alongside --
[announcer]
Kato Kaelin marketing
his own line of slacker wear.
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[Todd]
There was tell-all books,
prosecution, defense,
Kato Kaelin, this, that.
Media madness over the OJ
Simpson story has been nonstop.
The media, when they made
so much money, and I think
virtually every outlet
and publication admitted during
my trial, they had virtual
record earnings.
They don't want -- you don't
wanna change, you know,
you know, to kill
the golden cow, the golden calf,
or whatever that phrase is.
[Todd] I think Rick wanted
a piece of that as well.
He figured out an avenue
to where it fit within
his universe to profit off OJ,
because OJ is eyeballs.
[reporter] OJ Simpson is
a never-ending story.
The fascination with what
he does and who he's with
doesn't seem to diminish
with time.
I saw OJ as my biggest
built-in marketing campaign.
It would not be ignored.
I mean, if you're making
"JUICED" to line your pockets
with dollar bills, they're
really not thinking about,
"Well, who would this affect?"
[Denise]
I just remember myself
being so angry.
And it took me 13 years
to get over that anger.
And it's something that
I just don't wanna,
I don't wanna feel anymore.
I wanna be able to remember
Nicole as we were.
[Todd] We came off
of the Bronco prank,
and OJ was happy about it.
OJ decides he wants
to get drunk.
He just wanted to get drunk
and wander off.
That was a recipe
for disaster.
He had a little bit
too much Vegas in him,
if you know what I mean.
It was a little too much
last night.
He shows up late.
He's drunk.
He probably had a hangover.
I had to deal with OJ,
and there's a certain way I had
to depict OJ in the show.
So the original concept
for the open house was
that this was going to be
OJ's house in Vegas
that he was selling.
But OJ didn't like that.
You're so right.
Look, OJ had creative control.
I mean, certainly, I knew that
was gonna come with the territory.
Hey, OJ, we have a target,
so stand by.
[woman speaking indistinctly]
And the owner has actually --
Hi, OJ, nice to meet you.
Not bad.
How y'all doing?
[OJ] How you doing?
The idea was to have
Julie knock over a vase
and then blame it
on one of the new victims
that had just shown up
for the open house.
At that point, we'd have
Harmon storm in.
And I'd storm in, 'cause I'm
the owner of the house.
"Who knocked over my vase?"
Nice, it's great
for entertaining.
Or if you have little kids
running around anywhere.
[Todd]
On the Vegas Strip, I think
people are more aggressive
in coming up to speak to OJ,
but when you're
in a person's house, we actually
got some more real moments
where people are like,
[murmurs] "Is that OJ Simpson?"
[Julie] It's three bedroom,
two bath,
two full bath.
And the owner is
Innately, there is sort of
an uncomfortability that people
have when they walk in.
[Jemele]
You have people that are just
thinking they're going about
their lives, and then all
of a sudden, boom,
there's OJ Simpson.
You didn't really get
to consent to that.
You just got to be sort
of a pawn.
[OJ] Ma'am, ma'am.
The everyday person reaction
to that, it was
a kind of fish-in-a-barrel type
of setup for me.
To them, it was just OK
to victimize people.
[OJ]
May I show you something?
May I show you something?
[woman]
I don't know.
[OJ] That's a camera
and you've just been "Juiced."
It's a TV show.
It's a candid camera TV show.
[Todd] We weren't getting
the reactions that we needed.
Like, we needed something that
was gonna be funny
and some sort of payoff.
And I remember Harmon came
over to me.
He's like, "Hey, Todd, do you
think I should call OJ Danny Glover?"
"Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You should -- [chuckles]
You should absolutely do that."
-[vase breaks]
-[woman] Oh! Oh, no.
Who did this?
Did you do this?
"Who knocked over my vase?
Was it you, Danny Glover?"
Harmon knows how to get
under your skin.
He just kept calling him
Danny Glover over and over.
OJ was like really getting
mad, like realistic.
[Jemele] They know OJ Simpson
has an anger problem.
So what do they do?
They try to provoke him.
I think it kind of struck
a nerve with OJ.
[Scaachi] It's a prank show.
And look how fragile his ego is
when someone plays
a prank on him.
In that angered moment, I thought
Harmon might actually be in trouble.
-To hell with you.
-[Julie] Please, please stay,
Mr. Simpson.
[Todd]
His improv would always go
back to that same,
"Hey, here's what
I'm known for," brand
of being an accused
murderer, and he embraced it.
He started to play to
the infamy and play to
the persona of who people
thought that he really was.
It's like right in front of you.
Did nobody stop to think that,
"Hey, maybe this is wrong?"
That was the authenticity
that "JUICED" was chasing.
[door bell rings]
[man] Nice to meet you.
One of the last people
to look at the house was
an Elvis impersonator
and his wife.
Huh.
[woman]
Oh my lord.
[Harmon]
What the hell's going on here?
[Martin] You had a real mix
of people in Vegas.
Sometimes it was like,
"I hate your guts,"
and sometimes,
"You're the best."
Come here, sir.
You've been "JUICED."
This is a TV show we're doing.
[OJ laughing]
-I can do it --
-[vocalizing]
[laughing]
I saw that conversation
happening and I was like,
"Where is this gonna go?"
And that guy throughout
this line --
I couldn't believe
he went there.
[Todd] I couldn't believe --
I was speechless.
It was mind-blowing to me.
My feeling is people are
desensitized a little bit.
It is really hard to remind
yourself that there's a person
attached to the story
and, you know, lives are lost
and there's grief.
-The pain doesn't go away.
It doesn't subside.
It doesn't get easier.
[Jemele]
I mean, can you imagine being
in the room with somebody
and they make a joke about
the murder of your ex-wife?
The root of this is that
somebody had to die to get him
to a level of infamy.
So the longer that you sort of
draw out that plot point,
the more sickening it looks.
OJ had his girlfriend
at the time,
which -- heavy job title on set.
This is the first time that
I had seen OJ
with a companion.
And with Christie, we saw some
of the real OJ come out there.
[crew] Roll camera,
roll sound, please.
All right, let's just
take one, Christie.
Marker.
OK.
I had no idea how real
it could get.
[crew] Take two, Christie.
My name is Christie Prody,
and I dated OJ Simpson
for 13 years.
You know, seeing Christie there
made me feel a little uneasy.
She looks exactly like Nicole.
He certainly has a type.
Back then, yeah, there might
have been a slight resemblance.
He probably thought so too.
But when I met him,
he was riding up towards
Rockingham on an electric bike,
looked over and said,
"Hey gorgeous.
What's your name?"
I didn't know much about him,
if anything about him,
except for his trial.
He was fun
and easygoing and charismatic.
He had an incredible sense
of humor, especially for
what he'd gone through.
I don't know how he could joke
about some of the things.
I don't know how
he kept the, uh,
the positive attitude
that he did.
You picture this person that
you hear about
in the courtroom, you know,
doing this brutal killing
and like beat Nicole
and was so abusive,
and I never saw that.
You know,
but we had good times.
Yeah, we had a lot of
good times.
The last day, it was the music
video shoot of the rap song
that they recorded
on the first day.
Gotta get some close-ups
of the crotch.
Can't be pimping without
some crotch shots.
The only crotch that matters is
that crotch right here.
[Tyson] We just figured we'll
get a bunch of strippers,
we'll just have a good time
with it, and we end this thing
with a freaking bang, right?
[indistinct]
Chilling with OJ, I was like,
"This is a dream come true."
I had football cards of him
growing up.
When I was like 12,
he's all over the news.
I'm like, "Whoa, wait a minute.
This is the guy
I'm gonna be with?"
[OJ] He's about the size
of a basketball,
but he's a complete ball
of energy,
and we just had a lot of fun.
No, just the ones sitting
over there.
-Who's a little baby?
-[high-pitched] Me, me, me!
[woman] This is going to be
a very "JUICED" beverage.
When you're dealing with what
we dealt with day in
and day out, you're, you know,
you kind of threw your morals
and ethics aside.
You felt dirty.
Better shoot me
[Luc] I mean, I thought
it was just gonna be
OJ singing inside of a mansion.
No, we're gonna do
all these scenarios.
It's one of those things
you had to adapt.
-Yes.
-[man laughs]
[Luc] Now we're gonna have a lot
of hot-looking girls
who're gonna be naked.
It was like, "OK, now we
gotta roll with this."
[crew] And cue music, please.
[Martin]
They had like strippers.
I'm -- I'm -- like, what am I
doing here right now?
Maybe I should have listened
to the people that were saying,
"Are you crazy?
Why are you doing that?"
[chuckles] Damn!
-[crew] And cut.
-Damn!
[Melissa] And his girlfriend is
sitting there watching this.
I don't know what woman would
be OK with that unless she's
afraid of the person
who she's with.
She specifically wore
short-sleeved shirt.
On her bare arms were
finger marks, bruises,
all over her arms.
I couldn't help think about
Nicole's abuse by OJ.
It seemed to be like a bit
of a wake-up call.
You know, it's like,
"Who are we really
dealing with?"
[crew]
She says she's camera shy.
In my heart, do I think that
he probably did it?
Um
-I stopped drinking.
-[crew] Oh, good for you.
Yeah, stopped drinking
at 7:15 this morning.
[Todd] You know when you see
those videos of, like,
when people feed milk
in a bottle
to a lamb or a sheep?
Like it was like this --
[imitates animal drinking]
[gulps loudly]
Ah.
[Todd]
You know, no one called out
the elephant in the room.
He liked the sauce.
He was fond of the drink.
[crew] Here we go.
[Todd] Up until then, OJ
was tight-lipped.
-[crew] You didn't do it?
-Heaven.
[Todd] There was no talks
of the trials,
the murders, nothing.
But you get a few cocktails
in this guy,
and he becomes a chatty Cathy.
[Todd] You've never been victim
of negative press before,
have you?
-[scoffs]
Skewed press.
I think he is a man who got
away with murder.
He's a pathological liar.
He will say and do anything
that he needs to do to try
and get public approval.
They were just
totally full of shit.
OJ talking about the murders
is the content
that everybody wanted.
Somebody said I was
a pariah.
The media was pushing that
to the public,
and I made a comment
on somebody's show
once in an interview that
that's -- it couldn't be
more wrong,
that everywhere I go,
people are terrific.
-[Chris] Can you live like this?
Can you live as a as a pariah?
You know, I live as a pariah
on TV.
You know,
see I never argue opinion.
Somebody has opinion,
that's their opinion.
I will never debate a guy
if they think I'm a murderer
and they think
I did this or that.
And I never -- [stutters]
I will never argue your opinion.
Don't start talking
about facts.
OJ's drinking
released the floodgates.
So it became kind of a debate
with the media making jokes.
Oh, no, yeah, sure,
people feel that way.
Ten years removed
from the trial,
and here he is
talking about it.
Holy [bleep]!
Obviously, roll camera.
[theme music playing]
-I like this.
-[Todd] It's fun, huh?
I like this pizza thing.
This is
I like gags that are
that I don't have to work.
[cackling]
[Todd] Don't I know it!
[cackling]
[Todd] Did you ever,
you know, and that makes me
wonder, like,
[stutters]
I'm sure that numerous people
have come at you with like
a documentary or something
like that?
Yeah.
Yeah, well, you know,
they've done all the stuff
on biography
and stuff, even though
the facts are always
totally screwed up.
[Hank] Now, when you were
at the Bronco that morning,
could you see any other blood
inside of the Bronco?
I did see what appeared to be
stains in the interior portion
of the vehicle.
[Hank] What did you see when
you were looking in?
[Fung]
I saw some reddish stains.
This is the early days
of DNA evidence.
So the prosecution actually
felt like they had a lot
to lock this down.
They had blood evidence.
They had the glove.
They had blood in his car.
Even though the total amount
of blood found in the Bronco
was -- was seven tenths
of one drop of blood.
Whatever DNA evidence that
the prosecution thought
they had that would guarantee
them a conviction,
the defense had a way
to explain it to the jury.
[Johnnie] The Bronco vehicle
on June 15th, 1994.
When you were inside
that vehicle on that occasion,
in your testimony,
you didn't see any blood, right?
I didn't see any blood.
[OJ] We see a picture that was
taken on June 13th,
and there was no blood.
Then you see it
a month or two later,
and there were spots of blood.
But where did they come from
between June 13th,
the day after,
and a month and a half later?
But nobody seemed to hear that.
All they remember is
bloody Bronco, bloody Bronco.
That was a little bullshit.
Just hearing OJ saying
"Bloody Bronco, bloody Bronco,"
I'm just like, "Holy [bleep]."
No matter what
the rest of this project is,
you have OJ saying that
on camera?
It was amazing.
The jail in L.A., like
most of these, ran
by the sheriff's department.
Every deputy
Every deputy there that came
in contact with me,
let's say 10, 15, had no doubt
that I was going home.
A Black person in that jury,
they might not
trust the police.
They already know that the LAPD have
railroaded Black men in the past.
[prosecutor]
Mr. Hodge, is there any doubt
in your mind that in the month
of January of 1987,
Detective Fuhrman referred
to you as [bleep]?
Sir, there's no doubt
in my mind, whatsoever.
When defense is able to call
out Mark Fuhrman as being
a racist, that is the nail in
the coffin for the prosecution.
[Johnnie]
And you say on your oath
that you have not addressed
any Black person as a [bleep]
or spoken about Black people
as [bleep] in the past 10 years,
Detective Fuhrman?
That's what I'm saying, sir.
Mark Fuhrman is
a lying, perjuring,
genocidal racist.
The point they made,
we don't know if you did it
or not, but once a jury knows
the cops are lying,
inevitably they acquit.
All these law enforcement guys
knew that the verdict would be
not guilty, yet the pundits,
because they were all wrong
and all their theories were
screwed up,
they blamed everything
under the sun.
I blame Ito for allowing race
to become an issue in this case.
The lousy lab work,
the terrible medical
examiner's office,
the perjury by Fuhrman.
Forrest Gump would have
convicted this man.
-This is pathetic.
-They blame Ito.
They blame Johnnie Cochran,
whose job was to get me off.
-Why do you blame him?
-[Todd] They blamed Garcetti.
They blamed Garcetti.
They blame Marcia -- the way
they put the trial on.
I got a question.
Who did they not blame?
[Todd] That's true.
Basically, he was trying
to prove,
prove to us his innocence.
[Johnnie] It makes no sense.
It doesn't fit.
If it doesn't fit,
you must acquit.
Well, I found it interesting
that the white jury,
the older white lady, said that
there was something that
didn't make sense.
The evidence for you,
beyond a reasonable doubt,
just wasn't there.
-That's the bottom line.
You know, I know you feel
funny 'cause you got stuff
you gotta shoot, you gotta
report to somebody, but I know
this stuff, man.
I know me.
[Todd] You know, I've been
sitting there
and I've been thinking,
before I did this thing, I didn't
know anything about you.
The society really makes me
supposed to not like you.
Everywhere you go,
people love him.
And so you're not reminded much
of this horrendous,
horrific person that
everyone knows him to be.
Let me tell you, the society,
you know what,
people don't see this.
But you see everywhere I go is
like what you see.
You know?
OJ was looking for validation
through the people that were
positive towards him.
And he wanted a camera rolling
to capture that.
He wanted the world to see
how good he really was.
[OJ singing]
I'm in Heaven and I hardly
even know that I could see
The last prank that we were
gonna do in Los Angeles was
to have OJ deliver pizzas.
[OJ] You call for a pizza,
you open the door,
and there's OJ Simpson
delivering your pizza.
How you doing?
[OJ] What is that accent
you got there?
Australia.
How about yours?
[OJ] Australia?
Well, mine is sort of
a San Francisco, L.A., Buffalo,
Miami accent.
-Who's this guy?
-Hmm?
-This is a guy
Oh, filming.
Filming.
We're doing commercials
for a pizza company.
Yeah, King's Pizza.
That guy was more interested
in our cameras on his porch
than he was in OJ standing
in front of his doorway.
[OJ] Take care.
Enjoy your pizza.
No reaction whatsoever.
I really thought we'd get
an interesting reaction.
And how are you?
[OJ] $27.70.
[chuckles]
No reaction at all.
Oh, I need to come back?
-Very generous.
-OJ Simpson!
[OJ] It was a very generous tip
you gave me.
I like that tip.
-[dog barks]
-Hey, big guy!
It was kind of sad that he would
be that hungry for validation.
Because he wasn't just looking
for the spotlight, but he was
looking for people
to like him again.
[Todd] We spent a lot of time
in the car together,
and at one point,
my fiancée called me.
OJ, say hi to Carrie.
Hey, Carrie, what's
happening, baby?
And how you doing?
My fiancée did not approve
of me working with OJ,
and she did threaten to leave me
because of it.
She's all giddy.
Hey, let me call you back.
We're delivering pizza
right now.
[Todd] All right, love you.
"Hey babe, that's OJ Simpson
in the front seat talking."
Like, that doesn't help at all.
I like that.
Was that a, "Love you"
or was that a?
Ugh.
That's a little cringey.
[Todd] I don't know.
I kind of brushed it
to the side,
but putting her on the spot
and actually making her
talk to him was probably
a bad idea.
[phone rings]
Tyson, what's up?
[Todd] We'll be there
in two minutes.
[music coming from inside]
[OJ] Pizza!
Here you go, man.
That's $17.35.
We did get a call
from a local bar where
this drunk dude wanted pizza.
What was wrong with -- huh?
Well, who's gonna pay me
for the pizza that I delivered?
We never knew where we were
gonna land with OJ
Well, you go get my pizza.
I'll give you your money back.
[Martin] We just threw OJ
into the scene
and let's see what happens.
Hey, I'mma be gone.
Tell him I went up the street.
Tell him I walked
up the street.
Sir?
Sir?
Sir!
Part of the reason
OJ Simpson was
as popular as he was
is that he understood
how to play to the crowd.
But you know he shouldn't
see me.
His life was a performance.
Well, somebody's gotta pay
for this pizza.
When you see yourself
as a performer constantly,
you're playing for the laughs.
You're playing
for the reaction.
Hey, you've just been "Juiced."
[people cheering]
All good, man.
Thank you, baby.
Come on in.
Come on inside.
I'm gonna have
a quick drink.
[OJ] I know.
I just gotta say something.
OJ walked into a bar full
of drunk people.
He was already probably
five or six beers in.
[Scaachi] There's a lot of women
that he's speaking to.
You can feel the discomfort
when he walks in.
People started heckling him.
[indistinct]
It was a lot of times that
he would go out,
and that would be the type
of reception he'd get.
He tried to be as charming
as he could, you know,
but at times he'd break.
I watched him break one time,
and the guys who had
called him murderer,
he threw one down
and grabbed
the other one and said,
"So you think I'm
a murderer now?"
It didn't feel right there,
like kind of a building
sort of riot mentality.
I felt he was going somewhere
that could have put
someone in danger.
You're putting yourselves in
harm's way doing a show like this.
I didn't feel comfortable
in the bar.
I felt he was going somewhere
that could have put someone
in the crew in danger,
and we all just got
out of there.
[indistinct]
L.A. is different --
L.A. is different
than any other place.
I mean, it really is.
[Todd] I think being in L.A.
was uncomfortable for OJ.
[OJ] You know, I have a lot
of memories there,
and so, you know, you can get
emotional about that stuff.
It was probably a source of
tension for OJ to come back.
We're in the city that
this whole thing unraveled in
with the murders.
They always talking
about my white Bronco
going down the freeway.
[Martin] It was heavy.
The Rockingham house was
very sentimental for him.
[OJ]
I had 15 terrific years there.
People ask me, like, "Boy,
does that make you feel bad?"
If the Rockingham that I lived
in was still there,
I probably would have driven by.
I was in many ways relieved
when they tore it down because,
you know, it's like somebody's
benefiting from all the effort
you and yours have put
into it, you know.
Sure the ghosts of the past
were around him being in L.A.
But when we got to Vegas,
that all changed.
[Rick] Our two primary cities
were L.A. and Vegas,
and he was probably more
receptive to the escapism
that Vegas brought him.
[indistinct]
-[elevator dings]
-[vocalizing]
Elvis, the man,
the king, the legend.
I found a new place to dwell.
[Todd] We took OJ on
the Las Vegas Strip and like,
what's gonna happen here?
[crew] That's Elvis.
That's Elvis Presley.
[Rick] OJ on the bridge
of the Tropicana,
serenading tourists.
OJ Simpson.
OJ Simpson, man.
So he has a good personality.
So what?
people just think,
well, it's OJ Simpson,
like he's still famous, and I feel
people wanna be attached to that.
Our society fed his ego
so much, and that's where
I sit there and I go,
why do we put these people
up on pedestals
because they can
throw a football?
Because we really don't know
what these people are
capable of doing.
[Harmon] That was like
the shocking surprise.
People would just like run in
off the Vegas strip
wanting photos with OJ.
You've gotta understand,
he's like the beloved
Santa Claus of murder.
Alleged murder.
[Tyson]
People in Vegas loved him.
That was the perfect place
to put OJ because, you know,
it was a bunch of tourists that
were just excited
to meet a celebrity.
They didn't care if he might
have murdered some people.
People are just walking by
like they don't even know.
I understood why some people
would think I was guilty.
But once people see me
and meet me,
they can see that it's not true.
And it turns out that a lot
of the public didn't believe it,
evidently, because you see what
the reaction I get is from people.
Later that night, OJ was
supposed to play
a wacky motel clerk.
Except OJ was like completely
shit faced.
So they propped OJ up
sort of in the corner
and had me play
the wacky motel clerk.
Do you guys get a single bed?
A lot of his most offensive
and edgy lines, which is what
we were looking for,
that came from him.
-OJ?
-You the man.
He just wanted recognition
for who he was.
[Scaachi]
I don't think he wanted
to think too hard
about the difference
between the adoration he had
in the early part of his career
and then the mere
name recognition he had after.
It was all the same thing.
If you knew him, you loved him.
That was it.
That's all that mattered.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
[Rick] Post Elvis, we were at
the Palms about to close out
at the bar, and OJ
leaned over and asked,
"Yo, Rick, what are we
up to tomorrow?"
I told him that "Juice" is
gonna be a Hall of Fame
used car salesman tomorrow.
OJ leans in and he whispers,
"What if I was selling
a Bronco?"
Yeah, what if?
We went to a used car lot,
and I got a chance to sell
the worst used car ever.
[reporter] We continue to watch
this Ford Bronco
going north on the 405.
I mean, this was a Bronco,
excuse that,
with a bullet hole in it.
I did not know it was
gonna be there.
A hundred percent.
The guy that owned
the dealership had it there.
I looked at Rick
and I was like, "Holy [bleep]."
[OJ] How you doing buddy?
I was like, "Oh my gosh," I'm
like, "How is this gonna go over?"
[sirens wailing]
[reporter] There is now a statewide
manhunt underway for OJ Simpson.
[voice over radio]
Simpson may be driving a white
or light colored Ford Bronco.
I remember vividly where I was
when the Bronco chase happened.
I was in my high school
girlfriend's house.
I was glued,
just like everyone else was.
The former football great was
charged in connection
with the deaths of his wife
and her friend.
The day of the Bronco chase,
OJ was actually scheduled
to turn himself in.
We're waiting.
We are told OJ Simpson is going
to surrender himself
this morning,
possibly within the hour.
But instead of doing that,
he just never showed up.
This letter
was written by OJ today.
Before he got on the road,
he left a letter at his friend
Robert Kardashian's house.
"I have felt like a battered
husband or boyfriend.
"I think of my life
"and feel I've done most
of the right things.
"So why do I end up like this?
"I can't go on.
Peace and love, OJ."
A lot of people viewed that
as a suicide letter.
[announcer] In this first half,
next by two.
[announcer] We are gonna
interrupt the basketball game
just for a moment.
You are looking at what
we think to be the Ford Bronco
owned by Al Cowlings.
This broke into
a basketball game.
Do you know what it takes
to stop sports?
[reporter]
We are witnessing tonight
a modern tragedy and drama
of Shakespearean proportion
being played out
live on television.
It went on every network
and I was like
[reporter]
If you've been watching
television over the past
couple of hours, you've been
watching the search for OJ Simpson.
[reporter] Still traveling
very slowly northbound
along the 5 freeway.
[Scaachi]
It's one of the slowest
police chases I've ever seen.
The perception was that he was
in a bad mental state
and they didn't wanna
exacerbate anything.
When that happened, I was
like, "Oh my God,
OJ Simpson did it."
Because why would OJ be
going on the run
if he didn't do anything?
It's crazy!
It's like watching
a real life action film
and God hope no one
gets killed in the process.
[Todd]
You could switch in between
channels and you could see
different angles and you're
hoping, is someone gonna get
a tight inside the cab?
[Scaachi]
Domino's had their biggest night
ever in pizza deliveries
because people didn't wanna
step away from their television.
[Rick] The Bronco Chase was
our first live stream.
I think the reason why
he resonates then,
he resonates now, and I think
the story will resonate
forever, is because
pre internet back then,
this was one of the last
media figures that we all knew
and we all recognized.
[reporter] Surrounded by police,
by helicopters,
and by reporters,
OJ Simpson would be charged
with two murders.
After that old man asked
about the dead body in there,
then OJ loosened up.
It's a Bronco, a car that
I personally made famous.
That Bronco is associated with
the mother of his children.
So there's a cruelty there,
making light of the fact that
two people were murdered.
In our language today, we
would call that elaborate trolling.
His kids don't have a mother.
He's making jokes
about their mom being
near decapitated
when they were children.
And I heard, I go,
"What did he just say?
Rick, tell me he just said
what I think he said."
He started to go there.
Gave him all my best lines.
I like that word,
escapability.
Yeah.
The Ford Bronco is one
of the major symbols
of his former wife's murder.
And he's just lightheartedly
joking about it.
Unfortunately, they weren't
gonna let me keep mine.
The entire point of the show
is to walk along
the razor's edge with OJ
and to see if he'll fall
on one side or the other,
and if maybe we will get
a glimpse of the version of him
that did these crimes.
[OJ]
Right above the bullet hole.
How's that?
He was digging into all
of the iconography
and the symbolism
around the murder.
I was like,
"What are you doing?
"What are you doing?
You must think
you're invincible."
Oh, he just doubled down
and tripled down on that.
I think that any chance
he has, he mocks the trial.
He mocks the entire experience.
It's signed by me, which gives
it some kind of extra value.
I don't know why that would
ever be funny.
It takes a special kind
of low life to do that.
Yeah, it's about you escaping
from people thinking
you murdered your ex wife.
OJ was really
arguing his case.
Just ask me
what questions you have.
It's like he wanted to fix
every misconception by himself.
[Luc] Especially if they were
busty and they were blonde.
He wanted people to see him
differently, putting himself
out there like he was
so nice and sweet.
But it's just a show.
It's theatrics.
There's like
an unwholesomeness in all of it
contextualized by
a double homicide case that is
rooted in domestic violence
and how he treated women
that he was attracted to.
See, if I saw you in this car,
I'd be much more impressed
because you attract more men
in this car
'cause they'll think
you need them.
You have been "Juiced."
Look into the camera.
She looks very nice.
Have you ever watched a cat
stand over an aquarium
with a tightness in your chest
'cause it's a cat
and it's a bunch of fish?
That's what it feels like
to watch OJ talk to women.
-[OJ speaking]
-Oh, thank you.
[Rick] That Bronco sketch was
a pinnacle moment.
Here he is telling
personal stories
and now we're getting
more into the man.
The Bronco chase is often
credited as being the thing
that invented 24-hour news.
[reporter] You can probably
believe this in our modern
popular television culture.
People are going
to the freeway,
parking their cars and waving.
That created true crime
coverage, the obsession around
courtroom footage.
[Jemele]
The people in the case
literally became reality
TV show characters that we would
discuss like we do
"Real Housewives" today.
They were the same.
Kato Kaelin, Judge Ito, Marcia
Clark, Chris Darden, like everybody.
People always wanna profit
off of tragedy,
and people were
profiting off OJ.
[reporter] From comic books
to card games,
T-shirts to trading cards,
a trashy new industry
was booming alongside --
[announcer]
Kato Kaelin marketing
his own line of slacker wear.
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[Todd]
There was tell-all books,
prosecution, defense,
Kato Kaelin, this, that.
Media madness over the OJ
Simpson story has been nonstop.
The media, when they made
so much money, and I think
virtually every outlet
and publication admitted during
my trial, they had virtual
record earnings.
They don't want -- you don't
wanna change, you know,
you know, to kill
the golden cow, the golden calf,
or whatever that phrase is.
[Todd] I think Rick wanted
a piece of that as well.
He figured out an avenue
to where it fit within
his universe to profit off OJ,
because OJ is eyeballs.
[reporter] OJ Simpson is
a never-ending story.
The fascination with what
he does and who he's with
doesn't seem to diminish
with time.
I saw OJ as my biggest
built-in marketing campaign.
It would not be ignored.
I mean, if you're making
"JUICED" to line your pockets
with dollar bills, they're
really not thinking about,
"Well, who would this affect?"
[Denise]
I just remember myself
being so angry.
And it took me 13 years
to get over that anger.
And it's something that
I just don't wanna,
I don't wanna feel anymore.
I wanna be able to remember
Nicole as we were.
[Todd] We came off
of the Bronco prank,
and OJ was happy about it.
OJ decides he wants
to get drunk.
He just wanted to get drunk
and wander off.
That was a recipe
for disaster.
He had a little bit
too much Vegas in him,
if you know what I mean.
It was a little too much
last night.
He shows up late.
He's drunk.
He probably had a hangover.
I had to deal with OJ,
and there's a certain way I had
to depict OJ in the show.
So the original concept
for the open house was
that this was going to be
OJ's house in Vegas
that he was selling.
But OJ didn't like that.
You're so right.
Look, OJ had creative control.
I mean, certainly, I knew that
was gonna come with the territory.
Hey, OJ, we have a target,
so stand by.
[woman speaking indistinctly]
And the owner has actually --
Hi, OJ, nice to meet you.
Not bad.
How y'all doing?
[OJ] How you doing?
The idea was to have
Julie knock over a vase
and then blame it
on one of the new victims
that had just shown up
for the open house.
At that point, we'd have
Harmon storm in.
And I'd storm in, 'cause I'm
the owner of the house.
"Who knocked over my vase?"
Nice, it's great
for entertaining.
Or if you have little kids
running around anywhere.
[Todd]
On the Vegas Strip, I think
people are more aggressive
in coming up to speak to OJ,
but when you're
in a person's house, we actually
got some more real moments
where people are like,
[murmurs] "Is that OJ Simpson?"
[Julie] It's three bedroom,
two bath,
two full bath.
And the owner is
Innately, there is sort of
an uncomfortability that people
have when they walk in.
[Jemele]
You have people that are just
thinking they're going about
their lives, and then all
of a sudden, boom,
there's OJ Simpson.
You didn't really get
to consent to that.
You just got to be sort
of a pawn.
[OJ] Ma'am, ma'am.
The everyday person reaction
to that, it was
a kind of fish-in-a-barrel type
of setup for me.
To them, it was just OK
to victimize people.
[OJ]
May I show you something?
May I show you something?
[woman]
I don't know.
[OJ] That's a camera
and you've just been "Juiced."
It's a TV show.
It's a candid camera TV show.
[Todd] We weren't getting
the reactions that we needed.
Like, we needed something that
was gonna be funny
and some sort of payoff.
And I remember Harmon came
over to me.
He's like, "Hey, Todd, do you
think I should call OJ Danny Glover?"
"Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You should -- [chuckles]
You should absolutely do that."
-[vase breaks]
-[woman] Oh! Oh, no.
Who did this?
Did you do this?
"Who knocked over my vase?
Was it you, Danny Glover?"
Harmon knows how to get
under your skin.
He just kept calling him
Danny Glover over and over.
OJ was like really getting
mad, like realistic.
[Jemele] They know OJ Simpson
has an anger problem.
So what do they do?
They try to provoke him.
I think it kind of struck
a nerve with OJ.
[Scaachi] It's a prank show.
And look how fragile his ego is
when someone plays
a prank on him.
In that angered moment, I thought
Harmon might actually be in trouble.
-To hell with you.
-[Julie] Please, please stay,
Mr. Simpson.
[Todd]
His improv would always go
back to that same,
"Hey, here's what
I'm known for," brand
of being an accused
murderer, and he embraced it.
He started to play to
the infamy and play to
the persona of who people
thought that he really was.
It's like right in front of you.
Did nobody stop to think that,
"Hey, maybe this is wrong?"
That was the authenticity
that "JUICED" was chasing.
[door bell rings]
[man] Nice to meet you.
One of the last people
to look at the house was
an Elvis impersonator
and his wife.
Huh.
[woman]
Oh my lord.
[Harmon]
What the hell's going on here?
[Martin] You had a real mix
of people in Vegas.
Sometimes it was like,
"I hate your guts,"
and sometimes,
"You're the best."
Come here, sir.
You've been "JUICED."
This is a TV show we're doing.
[OJ laughing]
-I can do it --
-[vocalizing]
[laughing]
I saw that conversation
happening and I was like,
"Where is this gonna go?"
And that guy throughout
this line --
I couldn't believe
he went there.
[Todd] I couldn't believe --
I was speechless.
It was mind-blowing to me.
My feeling is people are
desensitized a little bit.
It is really hard to remind
yourself that there's a person
attached to the story
and, you know, lives are lost
and there's grief.
-The pain doesn't go away.
It doesn't subside.
It doesn't get easier.
[Jemele]
I mean, can you imagine being
in the room with somebody
and they make a joke about
the murder of your ex-wife?
The root of this is that
somebody had to die to get him
to a level of infamy.
So the longer that you sort of
draw out that plot point,
the more sickening it looks.
OJ had his girlfriend
at the time,
which -- heavy job title on set.
This is the first time that
I had seen OJ
with a companion.
And with Christie, we saw some
of the real OJ come out there.
[crew] Roll camera,
roll sound, please.
All right, let's just
take one, Christie.
Marker.
OK.
I had no idea how real
it could get.
[crew] Take two, Christie.
My name is Christie Prody,
and I dated OJ Simpson
for 13 years.
You know, seeing Christie there
made me feel a little uneasy.
She looks exactly like Nicole.
He certainly has a type.
Back then, yeah, there might
have been a slight resemblance.
He probably thought so too.
But when I met him,
he was riding up towards
Rockingham on an electric bike,
looked over and said,
"Hey gorgeous.
What's your name?"
I didn't know much about him,
if anything about him,
except for his trial.
He was fun
and easygoing and charismatic.
He had an incredible sense
of humor, especially for
what he'd gone through.
I don't know how he could joke
about some of the things.
I don't know how
he kept the, uh,
the positive attitude
that he did.
You picture this person that
you hear about
in the courtroom, you know,
doing this brutal killing
and like beat Nicole
and was so abusive,
and I never saw that.
You know,
but we had good times.
Yeah, we had a lot of
good times.
The last day, it was the music
video shoot of the rap song
that they recorded
on the first day.
Gotta get some close-ups
of the crotch.
Can't be pimping without
some crotch shots.
The only crotch that matters is
that crotch right here.
[Tyson] We just figured we'll
get a bunch of strippers,
we'll just have a good time
with it, and we end this thing
with a freaking bang, right?
[indistinct]
Chilling with OJ, I was like,
"This is a dream come true."
I had football cards of him
growing up.
When I was like 12,
he's all over the news.
I'm like, "Whoa, wait a minute.
This is the guy
I'm gonna be with?"
[OJ] He's about the size
of a basketball,
but he's a complete ball
of energy,
and we just had a lot of fun.
No, just the ones sitting
over there.
-Who's a little baby?
-[high-pitched] Me, me, me!
[woman] This is going to be
a very "JUICED" beverage.
When you're dealing with what
we dealt with day in
and day out, you're, you know,
you kind of threw your morals
and ethics aside.
You felt dirty.
Better shoot me
[Luc] I mean, I thought
it was just gonna be
OJ singing inside of a mansion.
No, we're gonna do
all these scenarios.
It's one of those things
you had to adapt.
-Yes.
-[man laughs]
[Luc] Now we're gonna have a lot
of hot-looking girls
who're gonna be naked.
It was like, "OK, now we
gotta roll with this."
[crew] And cue music, please.
[Martin]
They had like strippers.
I'm -- I'm -- like, what am I
doing here right now?
Maybe I should have listened
to the people that were saying,
"Are you crazy?
Why are you doing that?"
[chuckles] Damn!
-[crew] And cut.
-Damn!
[Melissa] And his girlfriend is
sitting there watching this.
I don't know what woman would
be OK with that unless she's
afraid of the person
who she's with.
She specifically wore
short-sleeved shirt.
On her bare arms were
finger marks, bruises,
all over her arms.
I couldn't help think about
Nicole's abuse by OJ.
It seemed to be like a bit
of a wake-up call.
You know, it's like,
"Who are we really
dealing with?"
[crew]
She says she's camera shy.
In my heart, do I think that
he probably did it?
Um