On the Roam (2024) s01e03 Episode Script
Forging a Family
1
[Jason]
Look at the bridge.
[Nakoa]
Whoa
[Nakoa]
Are we gonna play
here, Papa?
[Jason] Why don't we go
ask the director?
-[man] Hey, how are ya?
-[Jason] Good.
-[Nakoa laughing]
-[Jason laughing]
[Jason]
For two decades now
I've been a story teller.
This journey as led me to meet
incredible artists and
craftsmen all over the world.
Every characters is an
opportunity
and a privilege to build a
story alongside these artists.
I am going to venture
out some of my favorite
artists and craftsmen
to discover
what inspires them.
I'm going to enlist them
to build custom,
one-of-a-kind pieces for
stories I'm telling.
["Wherever I May Roam"
playing]
And the road
becomes my bride ♪
I have stripped
of all but pride ♪
So in her I do confide ♪
Off the beaten
path I reign ♪
Roamer, wanderer ♪
Nomad, vagabond ♪
Call me what you will ♪
Wherever I may roam ♪
Wherever I may roam ♪
Yeah ♪
[waves rumbling]
[soft music playing]
[Neil]
Growing up, I used to always
be introduced as
Riki's son and
it used to drive me nuts.
And I told my dad
when I was little
one day nobody will know you
except for Neil's dad.
I just always had that
weird like drive.
[soft music playing]
My great-grandfather,
he was the first blacksmith
that was shipping his K knives
to other islands to the
pineapple plantations to
many different places.
And he ended up opening a
blacksmith shop in Hilo.
It was there like from
1932 to when he died in 1990
he was the last living
blacksmith in Hawaii.
And when I was born,
they named me
Neil Teiji Kamimura
which is after the
blacksmith and so I always
kinda carried that weight.
This is a rep.
That is the
replica sign of my great
grandfather's original sign
in Hilo.
[Jason]
Wow.
My buddy had made it for me
off of a photo that was in
the newspaper article.
[Jason]
Made for first season and
second season,
made my finale swords.
We turn them into rubbers.
And that I going do all the
damage that I do, right?
[Nakoa]
You make the snake skin ones,
Uncle?
[Neil]
Yeah.
That's so cool.
[Neil]
That's my prized possession.
I can make real knives.
I can't make this.
[both laughing]
Right. I can't, man.
[Nakoa]
The soft flimsy one?
-No, I can't make that.
-[Jason] I can't make that.
Jason DM me through Instagram
and asked me I could make a
sword in 48 hours
and bring it up on Mauna Kea.
And I did it.
I needed something very quick.
And I put it out there
to him. It was like the
total Hail Mary.
Like I need this knife now.
It needs to look like this.
Can you pull it off?
And this guy just like,
you know, I don't know,
48 hours bangs this thing out.
Shows up on Mauna Kea with it.
I'm like "It's perfect."
And it's what I use in a,
in See for the finale.
It was a beautiful thing and
through that I just kinda
like try to have friends,
each character I play,
I just move to another artist.
And we uh,
build stuff together.
[upbeat music playing]
When we start a movie,
you know I'll have
wardrobe department,
the props department
and you get to see
these best of the best.
I love that.
It's my favorite department.
That and props I love.
Finding these unique pieces
helps me form a character.
And I love that process.
But it is even more meaningful
to have them handcrafted by
some of my closest friends.
[whirring]
Neil and I both have
multi-generational
roots in Hawaii.
And that definitely
influences our eye and
the way we look at art.
Being born in Hawaii and
raised in Iowa, I definitely
most of life wanted to get
back to Hawaii,
even though I have strong
foundation in Iowa.
I feel like if you're rooted
in like craftsmanship
in the first place,
your grandparents,
your grandpa
and your uncles
and they're all like
work with their hands.
You know my mother's so heavy
into antiques and photography
and all my uncles and my
grandfather are musicians.
The things that I ended up
liking kind of got me
out of my own path.
Climbing and skateboarding
all these things
kinda gave birth
to you know,
me always constantly
me being wanting to get out
and journey to different
places, so um
Hence the name On the Roam.
["Goin' Out West" playing]
I'm going out west
where the wind blows tall ♪
'Cause Tony Franciosa
used to date my ma ♪
-[Jason]
How's it going, dude?
-Welcome to Texas.
[Jason]
All right.
-My Man! Holy shit!
-How many fucking years
does it take to see you again?
[both laughing]
[Jason]
Along my journey to build
these custom pieces,
I went to Texas to see
my friend Richard Baggett.
An extremely skilled knife
and jewelry maker.
Yeah!
I want to soak in as much as
I can from him about
his process
and where
he finds his inspiration.
Oh, the sun is just gonna
set right here, bro?
-It sets right here,
doesn't it?
-[Richard] Yeah.
Wow, man. It's beautiful.
[Richard]
And this all inspired
by Navajo jewelry.
But I'm not a Navajo nor
would I ever claim
-my jewelry is Navajo.
-[Jason] Yeah.
[Richard] I just try to put
the Old West
sort of mountain-man
feel on everything.
Brah, that's beautiful.
[Richard]
This is important.
Tomolo Tomahawk's on the back,
and these are from friends,
pieces I've collected.
[Jason] I'm trying to remember
how was it that
I contacted you?
That was from
Chopper Supply Co.
[Jason] Yeah.
-And I guess you met Kenny
and you met Justin.
-Yeah.
And somebody said my name.
And I get a telephone call.
It was like. "Hey, dude."
"Holy shit, what's-up man?"
Can you make something for me?
I was like, "Okay."
There are lot of those phone
calls and there's probably
a lot of stories about me.
Where you get a phone call
going, "Hey, Jason Momoa.
Uh, I really love your stuff.
Could you do this
do this do this?
But I need it in six hours."
Ever since that first
call with Richard,
we've had a creative
partnership and a bond between
us that's still going strong.
These are ones that I've made
over the past two years.
-Yeah.
-I've got as my first
year for being sober.
-Yeah.
-I made this for my
two year anniversary.
Oh bro,
that's a hand work man.
I have so much to
learn from him.
He has this incredible wealth
of knowledge and he's so
enthusiastic about sharing it.
She fought alongside Geronimo
she could feel it in her hands
where the enemy was.
-Really?
-So she's known like a
medicine woman too.
-She'd feel it in her hands?
-Yeah.
-I'm gonna use that.
-Good.
I love all that, cause I love
taking that and putting it
in the characters man.
[Richard]
I still make knives
and everything.
-Yeah.
-But I'm trying to learn some
new things.
This is my
Oh, Man!
This is my silver studio.
[Jason]
Richard and I share that
eye for the imperfect.
We just see the things
the same way.
And we're drawn
to the same style.
[Jason] Yep.
I try to keep a real
personal, very personal
relationship with the client.
I mean as much as you can
being over the internet but
Uh, so they feel like
they're really investing in
something
I really cared about.
And I had them in mind
while I was making it.
And I can't tell you how
much that means to somebody.
[Jason]
Just watching him slowly form
a stone or scrap of metal
into some beautiful piece
only he could have made.
There you go.
[Jason]
My mom really really collects
a lot of old antiques
and she used to take me
antiquing and I would be like,
"Uh, that's annoying!"
Then I started to see like
these whole vintage bell jars
and I'd see these
old vintage spoon
and I just like,
it's been so read into me to
uh see these things
and see the patina and
what it's been through
you know, nature's effects
on man-made things
it was very instilled into
me at a young age.
[Richard]
All that black, hopefully
it'll weather in really nice.
-It just looks like its
been around for a while.
-Right?
And that's why,
I get a kick out for that.
It's beautiful.
Look at that, aw!
[Richard]
And you know what?
To be honest with you,
being involved with you
and doing stuff.
It has affected my art,
because I didn't realize
that I liked the way you
liked things that were beat up
and I didn't realize that.
That that's okay that
everything that I thought
was cool and rustic and
is loved by other people.
Which gives me even more
you know fuel to keep
doing things the way I do 'em.
I discovered Wabi-Sabi,
it's a Japanese philosophy
of like
imperfection, perfection and
what is the definition of
perfection is that you know,
spring in it's
blossoming is it the
perfect flower in summer.
And so when I look at
something that's a wallet or a
pair of pants or something
there's just this style
that you just go and
I don't know I just had it.
As long as I keep my eyes open
and look at all the overlooked
details of life
I just see so many
gorgeous things and
it makes me happy.
The thing is really uh,
I give a lot of credit
to my mother
and how she saw the world.
I kind of now have become this
you know, appreciate
all these things and then
can use it to make my art.
[Richard]
There are artists
that you've worked with
-and then we all get
to know each other.
-Yeah.
You know,
we kind a build this bond
and a support system
for each other and
we're always there
and it makes
It makes it so enjoyable
to know that
there's a community.
The things that I do,
whether it is a painting,
like a set of jewelry
or metal or whatever,
is that I try to bring my own
art, my own style to it.
So when you look at it,
-"Okay, that is
Richard Baggett."
-That's true.
You know what I mean?
And it may not be the best
or the most beautiful,
but by God,
it's something I made
with everything that's in me,
at the best of my ability
-at the time
you got it from me.
-Yeah.
So every piece is a
piece of my journey.
[soft music playing]
[Jason]
Richard and I have
collaborated on weapons for
previous shows and movies.
But I really wanted to task
him with building
something unique
for Baba Voss
of my series See.
So I made tons of
weapons on Frontier.
So right now I'm making
ones for-- so I have these
wolverine claws on See.
They went out, but that looks
so rad he had a big bundle
of elk tines and deer tines.
So I'm making some right now,
look at that.
Put a big knife right there,
[grunts] like that.
So I'm just gonna--
[laughing]
You scare the shit
out of me with that.
[indistinct chatter]
One right there.
Hooked in.
-Nice, huh?
-Yeah.
[Richard laughing]
You know what I'm saying?
[Judicael]
One incredible thing that
I've noticed,
is that I have the
natural ability to feel it,
without calculating it.
This is how it starts,
I usually have a
flash vision of it.
It comes in my mind,
like a flash.
Like, if somebody puts a photo
and remove it.
So I see it, I'm like, "Oh."
And I try to hang on
to that vision.
His art is like nothing
I've ever seen before.
I don't know, when I'm doing
something, like, I don't have
that sense of perfection.
His is perfect and meticulous.
[Jason]
As an actor, it's my job to
study different, you know,
behaviors and how
people are,
I think Judicael
is a, he's a very, very
interesting character.
He's a visionary.
I don't have that kind of
artistry in my DNA.
It's just such a fine--
He's a fine painter.
He's working with like
the most precious
stones and jewels.
You know, if he,
if he makes one,
that imperfection,
it's gonna crack
and fall apart.
[Judicael]
The gemstone is like the
cherry on the cake.
It's like,
this is what's gonna
make it,
you know and there's
some frequency
and energies.
Sometime it's the smell,
it's the texture, the color.
[Jason]
I am such a fan
of Judicael's art.
I wanted to collaborate
with him on some jewelry
ideas I have
for a character
I'm developing.
[Judicael]
Jason.
-[indistinct chatter]
-Oh, look at that.
Yeah, welcome to my den.
[soft music playing]
When Jason got
in touch with me,
I guess that was
when he was filming
Justice League,
and he is representing
Aqua Man which is
the King of Atlantis, right?
And which is very
interesting because
those skulls I was making
and the skull that he got
actually was the name of
an ancient King of Atlantis.
And so, without knowing
uh, all of them made sense.
[Jason]
I think there's a big
inspiration when I first saw
one of his pieces
and it was a very much
an ode to Atlantean kings.
And I was like, "Wow, it would
be really cool, this is so
beautiful, we make this."
I wanted to make a Greenstone
a pounamu so we needed to get
the proper material, and so--
We then decided to make it out
of pounamu which is Jade that
came from down here
in Aotearoa.
It's really one of a kind,
to be able to have that.
And obviously, I brought these
to Aqua Man and kinda
going like,
"Oh, this would be amazing for
Aqua Man, right?"
And the great thing is
I get to build
these characters,
build these characters
and find these different
little things.
-Each different guy,
so it leads me to Fast X
-Yeah.
Where I am a
very flamboyant villain who's
extremely dangerous
and patient.
I wanted this
character to be very
he had everything taken
away from him.
He's definitely
the devil.
And we would just
spitball some ideas.
It would be nice to have
something that just
-I'm planning on having
my shirt open
-Yeah.
Very much like a rosary in a
way, but it ain't a rosary,
It's an opposite version.
So maybe if it's,
maybe put the little bone.
I love it.
This is also I love
building these character,
I'm like, "Oh, this is gonna
help me with this and this is
gonna help me with that."
It's such an honor to be able
to highlight your buddies,
then to put it on another show
and play a character
using their stuff.
It's like,
to me it's just I mean,
that's the top of the top so.
I'm always,
I wanna make them proud
and they're making me proud.
Sitting still
for me is brutal.
You know, I'm not very
I got to be moving.
[chuckles]
During this quest,
I finally met some
new knife makers
that I've been admiring
for a while.
Terry Shanks and Jason Keen.
I wanna challenge them
with a custom knife
idea for my show See.
Let me know
when I can post it.
It's where it all happens,
right here.
This is an old
shitty garage
but I turned
it into a knife shop.
It's your knife shop.
How long you been here for?
I actually grew
up in this house. I inherited
it after my folks passed.
-Oh, you grew up here?
-Yeah.
-Oh, wow.
-My wife and I have been
working on it ever since.
[Jason] It was everything
I wanted it to be.
What I thought Terry
and Jason would be like
and going to Texas
and building a knife.
At first, I think everyone was
just kinda like,
"Who is this?"
I'm very excited to be there,
so they're all like,
"Hey, relax a little bit."
Everyone's from Texas
and then, it is kind of
They get to know me,
and then they just
know it's me.
I'm just excited to be there
and hang out with them.
I don't think
I've ever seen another
craftsman like Terry.
His work
is immediately recognizable.
Every single piece
that he creates carries
its own story.
And you would never guess
that it came
from a little small garage
in the middle of Texas.
I play so many
different characters on shows
where I like to build
different things
for my characters.
And so I came across you,
making brass knuckles.
And I wanted to have that
for my character on See.
'Cause I wanted
something to
come from different wars
and I wanted to have
a trench knife.
He rode down
from Wyoming and
we both had
a trench knife idea
we were bouncing
back and forth and
When that thing was finished,
one of the first people
I thought of
I was and I told him.
I was like, "You know
who's gonna want this thing?"
Then he goes like,
"Jason fuckin' Momoa.
He's gonna want that."
-Ins
-[Terry] You got
we were eating dinner.
We had just sold it
to a preferred client
-all three of us share
or whatever.
-[Jason] Yeah. Yeah.
And I shit you not.
I had just said,
"I can watch right
when you sell this, dude."
I'm gonna get a message
and I shit you not.
-You sent a message like
-[man] Oh, my God.
-I was like, "Why the hell
-[Terry] Yeah.
would you post this
and not tell me."
Because then I gotta get
all your artists together.
-[man laughing]
-That was the cool thing.
But regardless,
whoever got it,
lucky you.
I'll find you.
-I'm sorry.
-[all laughing]
[rock music playing]
[rock music continues playing]
[Jason] It was like
being in the furnace.
This is his childhood home.
But it's
all of his buddies
were there.
And we're just sweatin'
over the forge.
It was very, very surreal.
[rock music continues playing]
[whirring]
[air hissing]
[waves splashing]
[Neil] Six years ago,
I was dealing
I've been taking care
of my mom, uh
my whole life.
You know, since I was 18.
My mom had mental issues
and, uh
she kinda was
losing it a little bit
and I had to, like,
step away from her.
'Cause I was going
through a divorce and
I had a nine-year-old son,
Maddix, at the time.
And so, like, it was, uh
pretty difficult time and, uh,
she ended up, um
She ended up taking her life.
Uh, she wrote me
a letter. She, uh
left me a voicemail
and, uh, she
she, uh
was very unhappy
with me.
That was, like
a fork in the road for me.
And at the same time,
I my life was
full of problems, like
I had
by that point in my life,
I probably tried
to kill myself ten times,
you know.
Just so happened
this buddy of mine
gave me a forge and
gave me a anvil
and he told me,
he's like,
"Dude, you ain't got shit
in your life.
Like, you know, you should
'forge' your problems out."
[chuckles]
So I literally
put in a piece of leaf spring
that I had for my '49 Cadillac
and I forged a knife and
the first hit
that I took,
like, I knew
that this is what
I was supposed to do
for the rest of my life.
[guitar music playing]
[air hissing]
And it's
this contemplation♪
That spurs conversation♪
With the ceilin'♪
I've been talkin' to♪
If I keep my hands workin'♪
It holds off the hurtin'♪
For the work♪
Is all but true♪
But when the day's
at a close♪
And I'm all alone♪
You can guess♪
[Neil] Knife making
and bladesmithing
just gave me
an identity,
a purpose.
Being recognized for it
allowed me to, like,
actually love myself enough
to let good things
happen to me.
And I'm howlin'♪
Corralling the blues♪
I'm howlin', corralling♪
The blues♪
[waves splashing]
[air hissing]
[Jason] All right. [claps]
-Okay.
-Make some knives.
We're gonna make
a first ever
Momoa family knife.
'Cause I've never
got to make a knife,
um, with you guys before.
[Neil] And so we need
we're gonna need
to hammer
this to a point.
So that it's gonna
look like this.
[Jason] Okay.
Him being a family man,
me being a family man,
and having
our babies in Hawaii.
And we're doing
Chief of War right now.
And I get to bring my kids
to his shop.
And both of us
hammer on this metal
and make our knife together.
It's something
I've always treasured.
[Neil] You wanna
be able to pick it up.
Then you gonna
gotta come
straight up with it.
And you're gonna swing
as hard as you know
you can accurately hit it.
Because if you miss
it'll rebound
and it will
it will bounce
and it can hit you
in the teeth.
It can whatever.
You know what I mean?
Well, what I tell people is,
every knife that
you get from me
is a problem
that I've had in my mind
that I'm getting out.
Like [chuckles]
Knife making
takes a throttling
of pressures, right?
So at some point you need
the most abusive force
you've ever seen.
Like, you need
to actually smash steel
with a hammer.
[Jason] To be able
to make something together,
that's what it's all about.
And my son's
very much into knives.
But my daughter, she's a
she's a little toughie too.
So it's
it's fun to watch her
just hammerin' away at it.
And just put all our
our love and
and strength in there.
To have
our own family knife is
it's pretty amazing.
[Neil] And we live in a world
right now is where you go
and if you need
a kitchen knife,
you buy the cheapest
blue-colored handle
or it's, like,
blue for pork,
green for vegetables.
You use it
and when it gets dull,
it was ten bucks
so you just lose it.
To buy a
a hand-crafted thing,
you have to love it
and take care of it.
And you have an
emotional connection
to it. And
people sometimes
don't have their eyes
open to it.
I'm a caveman.
I live like I'm in
the '50s still.
Like, we still cook dinner
every night,
we still live off-grid.
Like, you know,
and I want people
to have
a little piece of that.
[Jason] I
I like things that have, um,
soul within these pieces
that can be handed down
to your to your kids
and your grandkids.
And, uh, I hope
it inspires people
to buy things that, like,
that last a lifetime
and and further.
[engine roaring]
[indistinct clamoring]
[Jason] So this
is from Richard Baggett.
When we were there,
we picked out
[tearing]
Picked out the antlers
that I wanted.
Picked out the style of knife
that I wanted.
And finally it's here.
I'm gonna do it for See.
And this'll be
on the battlefield.
[blows raspberry]
[laughing] Oh.
Yeah.
Look at that.
I wanted to have
an old butcher knife
that was just
that's perfect.
Richard, I love you.
Bro.
Richard Baggett. Look at that.
Ooh.
Oh, man.
[exhales]
Terry Shanks.
So the knife was
Jason Keen.
Terry Shanks.
That is amazing.
So he engraves
these skulls on these
brass knuckles.
Just that hand.
I mean, just
Craftsmanship.
I love it. Damn, Terry.
[groans]
Whoo!
Look how beautiful that is.
When your friends
come together and,
you know,
do these collaborations
and then I get to be
able to put 'em on
my show and
put another
art form together
with my friends
building fight scenes
and then, uh
you know, make something
that everyone can
be proud of.
And unite all these
different art forms. So
Got a couple ideas for this.
Oh, man. They feel so good!
Here we go.
The depths of mind.
Wow.
So this one's
from Judicael.
And I wanted to have,
like, the Dom's version.
Dom's version of the cross
is the ram
and the goat for me. So
Taking Judicael's work,
showing up not knowing
if they're gonna love it
and going, like,
"What do you think of this?
I had this made, and this."
And they're like,
"Where did you get this?
Oh, my God. It's amazing."
Lucky to support your friends
and it's all
hand-made artists.
-You dig it, man?
-I love it.
-Yeah?
-I love it.
Have you ever met an actor
so obsessed with, like,
all these little bits?
There's not one out there.
-You're the only one.
-I'm a freak.
-It's so weird.
-You're a freak.
-Thank you. All right.
-[laughing]
[guitar music playing]
[Jason]
I love these artists.
I love that they're making it
out in their backyard
and I love showing the world
what you can do.
Being able to highlight it.
Not only just to
see it in the final product
but also put it
on a TV show
take it into battle,
and then have them
be stoked by that.
There it is.
Jason Keen. Terry Shanks.
[knives swishing]
Jerlamarel!
[Neil] I can makes knives
You know, I make knives
for the richest people
in the world
and it's amazing.
And I'm so lucky
and fortunate.
But, you are the only one
that's put it on the screen.
And so, that's forever.
It's the finale of, uh,
my show Chief of War.
And, uh, my babies
What did you think?
It was amazing.
I get to have
my babies here
with me. Friends.
Uh, pretty much
all my friends are here.
And, um
But while we were here,
I had the opportunity
to make
these beautiful knives
and I want to
Uncle finished our knives.
Our
hand-made Momoa Ohana knives
-will be all hammered and done
-[Neil] Who wants
to pull it out?
-Here's the
-Oh, my God. Bro.
Wait. That's the one we made?
-[Neil] Yeah.
-Is that the one we made?
[Neil] Yeah.
-What?
-Oh!
[Neil laughing]
[Neil] Every one
of these strikes.
I watched you
make those strikes.
-[softly] This is
so freakin' cool.
-Look at that.
"Momoa."
Fifteen years
I've been trying
to make Chief of War.
Directing it, like,
on my weekend.
When I'm not directing,
spend time with my kids,
we make a knife
and then when it's finished,
they bring it down to me.
Like, right when we wrap.
It's emotional 'cause there's
so many things going on.
To be holding my babies
and see it together
It's there forever.
[Neil] I think
a lot of people would
fold under the pressure of
Jason Momoa asking you
to make a sword in such
a short amount of time.
A lot of people will fold
and not take it.
Because they don't
wanna be rushed.
I take it because
one, I love the pressure,
and two
like, my sons are watching.
That's all I ever remember.
Every day.
Is that my sons are watching.
My relationship
and my connection
to my mom now
is that
I try and think about
that she's watching me.
And that I don't wanna
have it in vain.
And so that's why
I always have this
picture on my desk.
Because when I hit the wall
and I can't work anymore,
and everything is going wrong,
I push through
and I won't leave.
I'll stay here
till 2:00 in the morning
to fix what I fucked up.
Now I know
that even though
things are good,
my sons are healthy,
I love them.
Worked as one unit.
Everything is going good.
I know that I still need
to be on guard.
Still need to be pushing.
Still need to be driven
and never be complacent.
In life or with raising them.
Or in my career.
[Jason] I think
just through life,
all the things that kinda
guide us to who we are
obviously has an affect
on what we do with our lives.
Um some people sink,
some people swim.
What Neil
has done with his life
and how much it's changed him,
he's used it
Uh, something that's
very tragic and used it
in a positive way to
to then inspire his
not only his kids, but
someone like me,
and push forward and, um
you really see it
in his work.
[chuckles] Dude.
[Jason] Gimme some love.
[grunting]
-I love you.
-[Neil] Love you.
-[air hissing]
-[crackling]
[indistinct chatter]
[indistinct shouting]
[Jason] I had a buddy.
And this is why
it really, like,
solidified everything for me.
You know, when
when, uh
when the Corona virus hit,
my buddy didn't have
any work and just
he made knives
out of his house.
And we'd go ride,
this little guy's like,
"Bro, I'm, like,
losing my house.
Losing my family."
-[Richard] I've been there.
-Yeah.
And I'm like,
"Bro, make me a knife.
I'll I'll post it.
Let's get it out there.
Make one for my kids.
Love to buy it."
And so he made 'em
and I was just
Did a little thing.
But, he's
the homie
that I just ride with
and he's my buddy.
I'm like
You know,
he came to me
and he's like
I like cried, he's like
-Yeah.
-I have 52 orders.
[Richard] It's been
a really cool trip. And
and, uh
I have to publicly
you know I thanked you
-many times, but you know
-[Jason] Oh, yeah.
for someone
in your position,
to spotlight,
uh, people like myself,
-you know, musicians, artists,
that whole thing
-[Jason] Yeah.
uh, is a big deal
because we go
we go our whole lives
you know, not
some of us way more so
than others, but
you want you wanna
have that feeling of "Okay,
I've I've reached people."
-[Jason] Yeah.
-You know what I mean?
It is great
it's great that anybody
loves your work.
If it's just one person,
that's beautiful.
But to be able
to reach more people
uh, especially in this day
and age you can.
But thank you for
-you know, promoting.
-[Jason] Oh, thank you.
I think everyone has passions
and things that
they've always wanted to do
and they didn't do them.
Well, there's people out there
that can teach you.
Probably in your hometown.
And if you go
and and try something new.
I hope that
inspires people because
I just think having
these family heirlooms
are important.
[Neil] I had a picture
of Johnny Cash on my wall.
And everybody thought
it was super weird
that some local kid
had a picture
of Johnny Cash on his wall.
And so when I started
making knives,
I told myself
that I wanna be
the Johnny Cash
of knife making
and everybody's like,
"Whoa, whoa." Like
"That that's ambitious."
But Johnny Cash to me,
what he represented was
his songs are simple.
Anybody can pick it up
and play it.
But can they replicate it? No.
You have to protect
the joy that you have
in your skill set
and in your trade.
And I tell people
all the time,
like, "Money can buy you
anything but time."
[Jason] I hope
it identifies with something
in your life
that you gonna go, like,
"Well, I'm gonna
pick this back up,
or I'm gonna go do that,
or I'm gonna do that thing
I've always wanted to do."
'Cause there's too many things
I wanna do in this life.
And I'm probably
not gonna learn them all.
But I sure as hell
can celebrate everyone else
that does it.
Look at that.
Dream come true.
Every one of these knives
were made by my friends.
This is from Hawaii.
This is from Texas.
And these are from Texas.
Pretty amazing.
[director] And action!
[theme music playing]
[Jason]
Look at the bridge.
[Nakoa]
Whoa
[Nakoa]
Are we gonna play
here, Papa?
[Jason] Why don't we go
ask the director?
-[man] Hey, how are ya?
-[Jason] Good.
-[Nakoa laughing]
-[Jason laughing]
[Jason]
For two decades now
I've been a story teller.
This journey as led me to meet
incredible artists and
craftsmen all over the world.
Every characters is an
opportunity
and a privilege to build a
story alongside these artists.
I am going to venture
out some of my favorite
artists and craftsmen
to discover
what inspires them.
I'm going to enlist them
to build custom,
one-of-a-kind pieces for
stories I'm telling.
["Wherever I May Roam"
playing]
And the road
becomes my bride ♪
I have stripped
of all but pride ♪
So in her I do confide ♪
Off the beaten
path I reign ♪
Roamer, wanderer ♪
Nomad, vagabond ♪
Call me what you will ♪
Wherever I may roam ♪
Wherever I may roam ♪
Yeah ♪
[waves rumbling]
[soft music playing]
[Neil]
Growing up, I used to always
be introduced as
Riki's son and
it used to drive me nuts.
And I told my dad
when I was little
one day nobody will know you
except for Neil's dad.
I just always had that
weird like drive.
[soft music playing]
My great-grandfather,
he was the first blacksmith
that was shipping his K knives
to other islands to the
pineapple plantations to
many different places.
And he ended up opening a
blacksmith shop in Hilo.
It was there like from
1932 to when he died in 1990
he was the last living
blacksmith in Hawaii.
And when I was born,
they named me
Neil Teiji Kamimura
which is after the
blacksmith and so I always
kinda carried that weight.
This is a rep.
That is the
replica sign of my great
grandfather's original sign
in Hilo.
[Jason]
Wow.
My buddy had made it for me
off of a photo that was in
the newspaper article.
[Jason]
Made for first season and
second season,
made my finale swords.
We turn them into rubbers.
And that I going do all the
damage that I do, right?
[Nakoa]
You make the snake skin ones,
Uncle?
[Neil]
Yeah.
That's so cool.
[Neil]
That's my prized possession.
I can make real knives.
I can't make this.
[both laughing]
Right. I can't, man.
[Nakoa]
The soft flimsy one?
-No, I can't make that.
-[Jason] I can't make that.
Jason DM me through Instagram
and asked me I could make a
sword in 48 hours
and bring it up on Mauna Kea.
And I did it.
I needed something very quick.
And I put it out there
to him. It was like the
total Hail Mary.
Like I need this knife now.
It needs to look like this.
Can you pull it off?
And this guy just like,
you know, I don't know,
48 hours bangs this thing out.
Shows up on Mauna Kea with it.
I'm like "It's perfect."
And it's what I use in a,
in See for the finale.
It was a beautiful thing and
through that I just kinda
like try to have friends,
each character I play,
I just move to another artist.
And we uh,
build stuff together.
[upbeat music playing]
When we start a movie,
you know I'll have
wardrobe department,
the props department
and you get to see
these best of the best.
I love that.
It's my favorite department.
That and props I love.
Finding these unique pieces
helps me form a character.
And I love that process.
But it is even more meaningful
to have them handcrafted by
some of my closest friends.
[whirring]
Neil and I both have
multi-generational
roots in Hawaii.
And that definitely
influences our eye and
the way we look at art.
Being born in Hawaii and
raised in Iowa, I definitely
most of life wanted to get
back to Hawaii,
even though I have strong
foundation in Iowa.
I feel like if you're rooted
in like craftsmanship
in the first place,
your grandparents,
your grandpa
and your uncles
and they're all like
work with their hands.
You know my mother's so heavy
into antiques and photography
and all my uncles and my
grandfather are musicians.
The things that I ended up
liking kind of got me
out of my own path.
Climbing and skateboarding
all these things
kinda gave birth
to you know,
me always constantly
me being wanting to get out
and journey to different
places, so um
Hence the name On the Roam.
["Goin' Out West" playing]
I'm going out west
where the wind blows tall ♪
'Cause Tony Franciosa
used to date my ma ♪
-[Jason]
How's it going, dude?
-Welcome to Texas.
[Jason]
All right.
-My Man! Holy shit!
-How many fucking years
does it take to see you again?
[both laughing]
[Jason]
Along my journey to build
these custom pieces,
I went to Texas to see
my friend Richard Baggett.
An extremely skilled knife
and jewelry maker.
Yeah!
I want to soak in as much as
I can from him about
his process
and where
he finds his inspiration.
Oh, the sun is just gonna
set right here, bro?
-It sets right here,
doesn't it?
-[Richard] Yeah.
Wow, man. It's beautiful.
[Richard]
And this all inspired
by Navajo jewelry.
But I'm not a Navajo nor
would I ever claim
-my jewelry is Navajo.
-[Jason] Yeah.
[Richard] I just try to put
the Old West
sort of mountain-man
feel on everything.
Brah, that's beautiful.
[Richard]
This is important.
Tomolo Tomahawk's on the back,
and these are from friends,
pieces I've collected.
[Jason] I'm trying to remember
how was it that
I contacted you?
That was from
Chopper Supply Co.
[Jason] Yeah.
-And I guess you met Kenny
and you met Justin.
-Yeah.
And somebody said my name.
And I get a telephone call.
It was like. "Hey, dude."
"Holy shit, what's-up man?"
Can you make something for me?
I was like, "Okay."
There are lot of those phone
calls and there's probably
a lot of stories about me.
Where you get a phone call
going, "Hey, Jason Momoa.
Uh, I really love your stuff.
Could you do this
do this do this?
But I need it in six hours."
Ever since that first
call with Richard,
we've had a creative
partnership and a bond between
us that's still going strong.
These are ones that I've made
over the past two years.
-Yeah.
-I've got as my first
year for being sober.
-Yeah.
-I made this for my
two year anniversary.
Oh bro,
that's a hand work man.
I have so much to
learn from him.
He has this incredible wealth
of knowledge and he's so
enthusiastic about sharing it.
She fought alongside Geronimo
she could feel it in her hands
where the enemy was.
-Really?
-So she's known like a
medicine woman too.
-She'd feel it in her hands?
-Yeah.
-I'm gonna use that.
-Good.
I love all that, cause I love
taking that and putting it
in the characters man.
[Richard]
I still make knives
and everything.
-Yeah.
-But I'm trying to learn some
new things.
This is my
Oh, Man!
This is my silver studio.
[Jason]
Richard and I share that
eye for the imperfect.
We just see the things
the same way.
And we're drawn
to the same style.
[Jason] Yep.
I try to keep a real
personal, very personal
relationship with the client.
I mean as much as you can
being over the internet but
Uh, so they feel like
they're really investing in
something
I really cared about.
And I had them in mind
while I was making it.
And I can't tell you how
much that means to somebody.
[Jason]
Just watching him slowly form
a stone or scrap of metal
into some beautiful piece
only he could have made.
There you go.
[Jason]
My mom really really collects
a lot of old antiques
and she used to take me
antiquing and I would be like,
"Uh, that's annoying!"
Then I started to see like
these whole vintage bell jars
and I'd see these
old vintage spoon
and I just like,
it's been so read into me to
uh see these things
and see the patina and
what it's been through
you know, nature's effects
on man-made things
it was very instilled into
me at a young age.
[Richard]
All that black, hopefully
it'll weather in really nice.
-It just looks like its
been around for a while.
-Right?
And that's why,
I get a kick out for that.
It's beautiful.
Look at that, aw!
[Richard]
And you know what?
To be honest with you,
being involved with you
and doing stuff.
It has affected my art,
because I didn't realize
that I liked the way you
liked things that were beat up
and I didn't realize that.
That that's okay that
everything that I thought
was cool and rustic and
is loved by other people.
Which gives me even more
you know fuel to keep
doing things the way I do 'em.
I discovered Wabi-Sabi,
it's a Japanese philosophy
of like
imperfection, perfection and
what is the definition of
perfection is that you know,
spring in it's
blossoming is it the
perfect flower in summer.
And so when I look at
something that's a wallet or a
pair of pants or something
there's just this style
that you just go and
I don't know I just had it.
As long as I keep my eyes open
and look at all the overlooked
details of life
I just see so many
gorgeous things and
it makes me happy.
The thing is really uh,
I give a lot of credit
to my mother
and how she saw the world.
I kind of now have become this
you know, appreciate
all these things and then
can use it to make my art.
[Richard]
There are artists
that you've worked with
-and then we all get
to know each other.
-Yeah.
You know,
we kind a build this bond
and a support system
for each other and
we're always there
and it makes
It makes it so enjoyable
to know that
there's a community.
The things that I do,
whether it is a painting,
like a set of jewelry
or metal or whatever,
is that I try to bring my own
art, my own style to it.
So when you look at it,
-"Okay, that is
Richard Baggett."
-That's true.
You know what I mean?
And it may not be the best
or the most beautiful,
but by God,
it's something I made
with everything that's in me,
at the best of my ability
-at the time
you got it from me.
-Yeah.
So every piece is a
piece of my journey.
[soft music playing]
[Jason]
Richard and I have
collaborated on weapons for
previous shows and movies.
But I really wanted to task
him with building
something unique
for Baba Voss
of my series See.
So I made tons of
weapons on Frontier.
So right now I'm making
ones for-- so I have these
wolverine claws on See.
They went out, but that looks
so rad he had a big bundle
of elk tines and deer tines.
So I'm making some right now,
look at that.
Put a big knife right there,
[grunts] like that.
So I'm just gonna--
[laughing]
You scare the shit
out of me with that.
[indistinct chatter]
One right there.
Hooked in.
-Nice, huh?
-Yeah.
[Richard laughing]
You know what I'm saying?
[Judicael]
One incredible thing that
I've noticed,
is that I have the
natural ability to feel it,
without calculating it.
This is how it starts,
I usually have a
flash vision of it.
It comes in my mind,
like a flash.
Like, if somebody puts a photo
and remove it.
So I see it, I'm like, "Oh."
And I try to hang on
to that vision.
His art is like nothing
I've ever seen before.
I don't know, when I'm doing
something, like, I don't have
that sense of perfection.
His is perfect and meticulous.
[Jason]
As an actor, it's my job to
study different, you know,
behaviors and how
people are,
I think Judicael
is a, he's a very, very
interesting character.
He's a visionary.
I don't have that kind of
artistry in my DNA.
It's just such a fine--
He's a fine painter.
He's working with like
the most precious
stones and jewels.
You know, if he,
if he makes one,
that imperfection,
it's gonna crack
and fall apart.
[Judicael]
The gemstone is like the
cherry on the cake.
It's like,
this is what's gonna
make it,
you know and there's
some frequency
and energies.
Sometime it's the smell,
it's the texture, the color.
[Jason]
I am such a fan
of Judicael's art.
I wanted to collaborate
with him on some jewelry
ideas I have
for a character
I'm developing.
[Judicael]
Jason.
-[indistinct chatter]
-Oh, look at that.
Yeah, welcome to my den.
[soft music playing]
When Jason got
in touch with me,
I guess that was
when he was filming
Justice League,
and he is representing
Aqua Man which is
the King of Atlantis, right?
And which is very
interesting because
those skulls I was making
and the skull that he got
actually was the name of
an ancient King of Atlantis.
And so, without knowing
uh, all of them made sense.
[Jason]
I think there's a big
inspiration when I first saw
one of his pieces
and it was a very much
an ode to Atlantean kings.
And I was like, "Wow, it would
be really cool, this is so
beautiful, we make this."
I wanted to make a Greenstone
a pounamu so we needed to get
the proper material, and so--
We then decided to make it out
of pounamu which is Jade that
came from down here
in Aotearoa.
It's really one of a kind,
to be able to have that.
And obviously, I brought these
to Aqua Man and kinda
going like,
"Oh, this would be amazing for
Aqua Man, right?"
And the great thing is
I get to build
these characters,
build these characters
and find these different
little things.
-Each different guy,
so it leads me to Fast X
-Yeah.
Where I am a
very flamboyant villain who's
extremely dangerous
and patient.
I wanted this
character to be very
he had everything taken
away from him.
He's definitely
the devil.
And we would just
spitball some ideas.
It would be nice to have
something that just
-I'm planning on having
my shirt open
-Yeah.
Very much like a rosary in a
way, but it ain't a rosary,
It's an opposite version.
So maybe if it's,
maybe put the little bone.
I love it.
This is also I love
building these character,
I'm like, "Oh, this is gonna
help me with this and this is
gonna help me with that."
It's such an honor to be able
to highlight your buddies,
then to put it on another show
and play a character
using their stuff.
It's like,
to me it's just I mean,
that's the top of the top so.
I'm always,
I wanna make them proud
and they're making me proud.
Sitting still
for me is brutal.
You know, I'm not very
I got to be moving.
[chuckles]
During this quest,
I finally met some
new knife makers
that I've been admiring
for a while.
Terry Shanks and Jason Keen.
I wanna challenge them
with a custom knife
idea for my show See.
Let me know
when I can post it.
It's where it all happens,
right here.
This is an old
shitty garage
but I turned
it into a knife shop.
It's your knife shop.
How long you been here for?
I actually grew
up in this house. I inherited
it after my folks passed.
-Oh, you grew up here?
-Yeah.
-Oh, wow.
-My wife and I have been
working on it ever since.
[Jason] It was everything
I wanted it to be.
What I thought Terry
and Jason would be like
and going to Texas
and building a knife.
At first, I think everyone was
just kinda like,
"Who is this?"
I'm very excited to be there,
so they're all like,
"Hey, relax a little bit."
Everyone's from Texas
and then, it is kind of
They get to know me,
and then they just
know it's me.
I'm just excited to be there
and hang out with them.
I don't think
I've ever seen another
craftsman like Terry.
His work
is immediately recognizable.
Every single piece
that he creates carries
its own story.
And you would never guess
that it came
from a little small garage
in the middle of Texas.
I play so many
different characters on shows
where I like to build
different things
for my characters.
And so I came across you,
making brass knuckles.
And I wanted to have that
for my character on See.
'Cause I wanted
something to
come from different wars
and I wanted to have
a trench knife.
He rode down
from Wyoming and
we both had
a trench knife idea
we were bouncing
back and forth and
When that thing was finished,
one of the first people
I thought of
I was and I told him.
I was like, "You know
who's gonna want this thing?"
Then he goes like,
"Jason fuckin' Momoa.
He's gonna want that."
-Ins
-[Terry] You got
we were eating dinner.
We had just sold it
to a preferred client
-all three of us share
or whatever.
-[Jason] Yeah. Yeah.
And I shit you not.
I had just said,
"I can watch right
when you sell this, dude."
I'm gonna get a message
and I shit you not.
-You sent a message like
-[man] Oh, my God.
-I was like, "Why the hell
-[Terry] Yeah.
would you post this
and not tell me."
Because then I gotta get
all your artists together.
-[man laughing]
-That was the cool thing.
But regardless,
whoever got it,
lucky you.
I'll find you.
-I'm sorry.
-[all laughing]
[rock music playing]
[rock music continues playing]
[Jason] It was like
being in the furnace.
This is his childhood home.
But it's
all of his buddies
were there.
And we're just sweatin'
over the forge.
It was very, very surreal.
[rock music continues playing]
[whirring]
[air hissing]
[waves splashing]
[Neil] Six years ago,
I was dealing
I've been taking care
of my mom, uh
my whole life.
You know, since I was 18.
My mom had mental issues
and, uh
she kinda was
losing it a little bit
and I had to, like,
step away from her.
'Cause I was going
through a divorce and
I had a nine-year-old son,
Maddix, at the time.
And so, like, it was, uh
pretty difficult time and, uh,
she ended up, um
She ended up taking her life.
Uh, she wrote me
a letter. She, uh
left me a voicemail
and, uh, she
she, uh
was very unhappy
with me.
That was, like
a fork in the road for me.
And at the same time,
I my life was
full of problems, like
I had
by that point in my life,
I probably tried
to kill myself ten times,
you know.
Just so happened
this buddy of mine
gave me a forge and
gave me a anvil
and he told me,
he's like,
"Dude, you ain't got shit
in your life.
Like, you know, you should
'forge' your problems out."
[chuckles]
So I literally
put in a piece of leaf spring
that I had for my '49 Cadillac
and I forged a knife and
the first hit
that I took,
like, I knew
that this is what
I was supposed to do
for the rest of my life.
[guitar music playing]
[air hissing]
And it's
this contemplation♪
That spurs conversation♪
With the ceilin'♪
I've been talkin' to♪
If I keep my hands workin'♪
It holds off the hurtin'♪
For the work♪
Is all but true♪
But when the day's
at a close♪
And I'm all alone♪
You can guess♪
[Neil] Knife making
and bladesmithing
just gave me
an identity,
a purpose.
Being recognized for it
allowed me to, like,
actually love myself enough
to let good things
happen to me.
And I'm howlin'♪
Corralling the blues♪
I'm howlin', corralling♪
The blues♪
[waves splashing]
[air hissing]
[Jason] All right. [claps]
-Okay.
-Make some knives.
We're gonna make
a first ever
Momoa family knife.
'Cause I've never
got to make a knife,
um, with you guys before.
[Neil] And so we need
we're gonna need
to hammer
this to a point.
So that it's gonna
look like this.
[Jason] Okay.
Him being a family man,
me being a family man,
and having
our babies in Hawaii.
And we're doing
Chief of War right now.
And I get to bring my kids
to his shop.
And both of us
hammer on this metal
and make our knife together.
It's something
I've always treasured.
[Neil] You wanna
be able to pick it up.
Then you gonna
gotta come
straight up with it.
And you're gonna swing
as hard as you know
you can accurately hit it.
Because if you miss
it'll rebound
and it will
it will bounce
and it can hit you
in the teeth.
It can whatever.
You know what I mean?
Well, what I tell people is,
every knife that
you get from me
is a problem
that I've had in my mind
that I'm getting out.
Like [chuckles]
Knife making
takes a throttling
of pressures, right?
So at some point you need
the most abusive force
you've ever seen.
Like, you need
to actually smash steel
with a hammer.
[Jason] To be able
to make something together,
that's what it's all about.
And my son's
very much into knives.
But my daughter, she's a
she's a little toughie too.
So it's
it's fun to watch her
just hammerin' away at it.
And just put all our
our love and
and strength in there.
To have
our own family knife is
it's pretty amazing.
[Neil] And we live in a world
right now is where you go
and if you need
a kitchen knife,
you buy the cheapest
blue-colored handle
or it's, like,
blue for pork,
green for vegetables.
You use it
and when it gets dull,
it was ten bucks
so you just lose it.
To buy a
a hand-crafted thing,
you have to love it
and take care of it.
And you have an
emotional connection
to it. And
people sometimes
don't have their eyes
open to it.
I'm a caveman.
I live like I'm in
the '50s still.
Like, we still cook dinner
every night,
we still live off-grid.
Like, you know,
and I want people
to have
a little piece of that.
[Jason] I
I like things that have, um,
soul within these pieces
that can be handed down
to your to your kids
and your grandkids.
And, uh, I hope
it inspires people
to buy things that, like,
that last a lifetime
and and further.
[engine roaring]
[indistinct clamoring]
[Jason] So this
is from Richard Baggett.
When we were there,
we picked out
[tearing]
Picked out the antlers
that I wanted.
Picked out the style of knife
that I wanted.
And finally it's here.
I'm gonna do it for See.
And this'll be
on the battlefield.
[blows raspberry]
[laughing] Oh.
Yeah.
Look at that.
I wanted to have
an old butcher knife
that was just
that's perfect.
Richard, I love you.
Bro.
Richard Baggett. Look at that.
Ooh.
Oh, man.
[exhales]
Terry Shanks.
So the knife was
Jason Keen.
Terry Shanks.
That is amazing.
So he engraves
these skulls on these
brass knuckles.
Just that hand.
I mean, just
Craftsmanship.
I love it. Damn, Terry.
[groans]
Whoo!
Look how beautiful that is.
When your friends
come together and,
you know,
do these collaborations
and then I get to be
able to put 'em on
my show and
put another
art form together
with my friends
building fight scenes
and then, uh
you know, make something
that everyone can
be proud of.
And unite all these
different art forms. So
Got a couple ideas for this.
Oh, man. They feel so good!
Here we go.
The depths of mind.
Wow.
So this one's
from Judicael.
And I wanted to have,
like, the Dom's version.
Dom's version of the cross
is the ram
and the goat for me. So
Taking Judicael's work,
showing up not knowing
if they're gonna love it
and going, like,
"What do you think of this?
I had this made, and this."
And they're like,
"Where did you get this?
Oh, my God. It's amazing."
Lucky to support your friends
and it's all
hand-made artists.
-You dig it, man?
-I love it.
-Yeah?
-I love it.
Have you ever met an actor
so obsessed with, like,
all these little bits?
There's not one out there.
-You're the only one.
-I'm a freak.
-It's so weird.
-You're a freak.
-Thank you. All right.
-[laughing]
[guitar music playing]
[Jason]
I love these artists.
I love that they're making it
out in their backyard
and I love showing the world
what you can do.
Being able to highlight it.
Not only just to
see it in the final product
but also put it
on a TV show
take it into battle,
and then have them
be stoked by that.
There it is.
Jason Keen. Terry Shanks.
[knives swishing]
Jerlamarel!
[Neil] I can makes knives
You know, I make knives
for the richest people
in the world
and it's amazing.
And I'm so lucky
and fortunate.
But, you are the only one
that's put it on the screen.
And so, that's forever.
It's the finale of, uh,
my show Chief of War.
And, uh, my babies
What did you think?
It was amazing.
I get to have
my babies here
with me. Friends.
Uh, pretty much
all my friends are here.
And, um
But while we were here,
I had the opportunity
to make
these beautiful knives
and I want to
Uncle finished our knives.
Our
hand-made Momoa Ohana knives
-will be all hammered and done
-[Neil] Who wants
to pull it out?
-Here's the
-Oh, my God. Bro.
Wait. That's the one we made?
-[Neil] Yeah.
-Is that the one we made?
[Neil] Yeah.
-What?
-Oh!
[Neil laughing]
[Neil] Every one
of these strikes.
I watched you
make those strikes.
-[softly] This is
so freakin' cool.
-Look at that.
"Momoa."
Fifteen years
I've been trying
to make Chief of War.
Directing it, like,
on my weekend.
When I'm not directing,
spend time with my kids,
we make a knife
and then when it's finished,
they bring it down to me.
Like, right when we wrap.
It's emotional 'cause there's
so many things going on.
To be holding my babies
and see it together
It's there forever.
[Neil] I think
a lot of people would
fold under the pressure of
Jason Momoa asking you
to make a sword in such
a short amount of time.
A lot of people will fold
and not take it.
Because they don't
wanna be rushed.
I take it because
one, I love the pressure,
and two
like, my sons are watching.
That's all I ever remember.
Every day.
Is that my sons are watching.
My relationship
and my connection
to my mom now
is that
I try and think about
that she's watching me.
And that I don't wanna
have it in vain.
And so that's why
I always have this
picture on my desk.
Because when I hit the wall
and I can't work anymore,
and everything is going wrong,
I push through
and I won't leave.
I'll stay here
till 2:00 in the morning
to fix what I fucked up.
Now I know
that even though
things are good,
my sons are healthy,
I love them.
Worked as one unit.
Everything is going good.
I know that I still need
to be on guard.
Still need to be pushing.
Still need to be driven
and never be complacent.
In life or with raising them.
Or in my career.
[Jason] I think
just through life,
all the things that kinda
guide us to who we are
obviously has an affect
on what we do with our lives.
Um some people sink,
some people swim.
What Neil
has done with his life
and how much it's changed him,
he's used it
Uh, something that's
very tragic and used it
in a positive way to
to then inspire his
not only his kids, but
someone like me,
and push forward and, um
you really see it
in his work.
[chuckles] Dude.
[Jason] Gimme some love.
[grunting]
-I love you.
-[Neil] Love you.
-[air hissing]
-[crackling]
[indistinct chatter]
[indistinct shouting]
[Jason] I had a buddy.
And this is why
it really, like,
solidified everything for me.
You know, when
when, uh
when the Corona virus hit,
my buddy didn't have
any work and just
he made knives
out of his house.
And we'd go ride,
this little guy's like,
"Bro, I'm, like,
losing my house.
Losing my family."
-[Richard] I've been there.
-Yeah.
And I'm like,
"Bro, make me a knife.
I'll I'll post it.
Let's get it out there.
Make one for my kids.
Love to buy it."
And so he made 'em
and I was just
Did a little thing.
But, he's
the homie
that I just ride with
and he's my buddy.
I'm like
You know,
he came to me
and he's like
I like cried, he's like
-Yeah.
-I have 52 orders.
[Richard] It's been
a really cool trip. And
and, uh
I have to publicly
you know I thanked you
-many times, but you know
-[Jason] Oh, yeah.
for someone
in your position,
to spotlight,
uh, people like myself,
-you know, musicians, artists,
that whole thing
-[Jason] Yeah.
uh, is a big deal
because we go
we go our whole lives
you know, not
some of us way more so
than others, but
you want you wanna
have that feeling of "Okay,
I've I've reached people."
-[Jason] Yeah.
-You know what I mean?
It is great
it's great that anybody
loves your work.
If it's just one person,
that's beautiful.
But to be able
to reach more people
uh, especially in this day
and age you can.
But thank you for
-you know, promoting.
-[Jason] Oh, thank you.
I think everyone has passions
and things that
they've always wanted to do
and they didn't do them.
Well, there's people out there
that can teach you.
Probably in your hometown.
And if you go
and and try something new.
I hope that
inspires people because
I just think having
these family heirlooms
are important.
[Neil] I had a picture
of Johnny Cash on my wall.
And everybody thought
it was super weird
that some local kid
had a picture
of Johnny Cash on his wall.
And so when I started
making knives,
I told myself
that I wanna be
the Johnny Cash
of knife making
and everybody's like,
"Whoa, whoa." Like
"That that's ambitious."
But Johnny Cash to me,
what he represented was
his songs are simple.
Anybody can pick it up
and play it.
But can they replicate it? No.
You have to protect
the joy that you have
in your skill set
and in your trade.
And I tell people
all the time,
like, "Money can buy you
anything but time."
[Jason] I hope
it identifies with something
in your life
that you gonna go, like,
"Well, I'm gonna
pick this back up,
or I'm gonna go do that,
or I'm gonna do that thing
I've always wanted to do."
'Cause there's too many things
I wanna do in this life.
And I'm probably
not gonna learn them all.
But I sure as hell
can celebrate everyone else
that does it.
Look at that.
Dream come true.
Every one of these knives
were made by my friends.
This is from Hawaii.
This is from Texas.
And these are from Texas.
Pretty amazing.
[director] And action!
[theme music playing]