Age of Attraction (2026) s01e04 Episode Script

A 27 Year Old Should Be Like an Energizer Bunny

1
It's giving me the fire ♪
Calling me a liar ♪
'Cause I'm into… ♪
[Natalie] Hello!
-[Nick] Hello hello!
-[all] Hello!
Everyone's looking stunning.
-Thank you.
-Thank you.
How are we feeling?
-Great!
-Excited!
-Yeah? Happy to be out of the woods?
-[all] Yes!
A big congratulations
to all of our new couples.
[all cheering]
Now it's time to take things
to the next level
as you'll all move in together…
[light chuckling]
…and begin to ask the tough questions.
Is someone willing
to move across the country?
-Hi.
-Is a promise ring enough?
Or do you want more?
It's not enough, babe.
[Jorge chuckling]
And perhaps the biggest question of all.
How does age factor in
to all of those big life decisions?
[Nick] But this is also your time
to have fun,
grow closer, and really ask yourselves,
"Do we see a future together?"
Or do you take off those promise rings
and leave this experience
the same way you entered it, alone?
Oh.
Ouch. [chuckles]
-[group murmuring]
-Whoa!
I'm sure there's one big question
in everyone's mind.
Everyone's actual ages.
Well, I'll see ya.
[all chuckling]
Remember, everyone, we are 18 years apart,
so you're in safe… safe zone, you know?
[all chuckling]
I think I would love to start
with John and Theresa.
I knew it.
Why don't you two share your ages?
[tense music playing]
-Um, I am proud to be 54.
-[gasps]
-[Leah] Yeah!
-[Andrew] Wow. Let's go.
[Leah] Way to go, girl.
-[Vanessa] Yeah, Theresa.
-You're looking good. Dope.
-[chuckling]
-I am 27.
Whoo!
[chuckling]
Whoo!
Like, whoo! My friends would be like,
"What you doing?"
I was like, "I don't know anymore.
We're here, though." [chuckling]
That's not my life. Um, no offense.
-[Vanelle] I thought you were much older.
-Have you guys done the math?
Yeah, he's half my age.
-27 years apart.
-Yeah, 27.
Okay.
So did that finding out the age,
stir any issues up?
Or do you feel like y'all have…
y'all are good?
So I was definitely shocked
when he told me his age. [laughs]
I kind of wish that we could, like,
go back to, like, not knowing
each other's age for a little bit.
-Why?
-[Theresa] Um…
You know, I worry that it changes
your perception of someone
once you know their age.
Um, I also think, like,
an older woman with a younger guy
is not so accepted socially yet.
Um, I think it's getting there.
But the bottom line
is that we have connected,
and we just really enjoy
each other's company.
So, yeah, we're gonna see this out,
learn more about each other.
What matters is your guys' connections.
The judgments of the outside world…
You know, they're…
they're not welcome inside your home.
Yeah.
All right, Derrick and Pfeifer.
-All right. Am I going first?
-Yeah.
[Leah chuckling]
-Go ahead.
-I'm 23.
-Oh, good job.
-Wow.
And I'm 43.
-Dang!
-[all exclaiming, cheering]
[Pfeifer chuckling]
Yes. I knew it.
-Twenty years.
-Twenty years. Yep.
-I thought he was, like, 30.
-Derrick and I moisturize.
[all chuckling]
-How are y'all feeling?
-I mean, for me, it--
Our, you know, connection,
that wasn't gonna change
from knowing her age.
I was probably just more surprised
that she actually has had
the experience she's had at,
you know, at such an early age.
But, I mean, the connection was there,
so I wasn't gonna allow age
to take away from what we
already started and continue to grow.
[Pfeifer] Yeah, that sums it up.
I like Derrick for who he is,
not for anything surrounding his age.
Um, so, yeah, I was like, oh cool.
Good to know, I guess.
Like, you're pretty much double my age,
but right on.
-Then… Yeah.
-Throw that one in there. It's fine.
Hey, you look great. You look fantastic.
Um, but, yeah, I'm not too concerned.
-Okay, we love the confidence.
-Always.
All right. Andrew and Libby.
I'm 22.
[dramatic sting]
Thirty-eight.
Oh!
Damn.
What?
-Sixteen years apart?
-[scattered cheering]
-Yeah.
-Sixteen.
Sixteen.
What was the first thing that crossed
your mind when you found out Libby's age?
That she was closer to my oldest daughter
in age than she was to me.
-Okay.
-How old is your oldest daughter?
-She's 14.
-[Natalie] 14.
[Vanelle] Wow.
Are you more taken back
that he has a 14-year-old daughter
or that he's close to 40?
Both of those things
threw me off a little bit,
but it didn't really scare me too bad.
I just was shocked.
All right. Chris and Leah.
I am 26.
[dramatic sting]
All right, guys, you ready?
Forty-one.
-What?
-[all exclaiming]
Wow! Damn, you look good.
I've got to start doing better skin care.
-[Libby] Seriously.
-Oh my God.
I'm so sure this whole time that
Leah is in her thirties, young thirties.
She just has this, like, buoyant energy,
and then she said she's in her forties,
and like, these people in their forties,
they're killing the game.
-[Natalie] Chris.
-Ah. [exhales]
What was your first opinion
when hearing Leah's age?
-I was absolutely shocked. Not gonna lie.
-You were shocked?
To hear the word--
the number four first, I was like, okay.
[Leah chuckling]
Um, I was shocked, but,
you know, like, perception is reality.
So in the end of the day,
we perceive each other with no age gap,
and… and we got to know each other.
Now that we have the age gap,
I honestly don't feel
like anything's changed.
I really don't,
and that's a beautiful thing.
-So I'm very excited for this next step.
-Better not change. [laughs]
All right, Logan and Vanessa.
-Go ahead.
-I'm 49.
-What?
-And I am 29.
-Dude. Okay.
-Oh!
Holy shit.
I don't know how old I thought he was,
but it wasn't that.
How are you feeling now?
I mean, I feel okay.
How do you feel? [laughs]
I feel-- I feel good. I'm excited.
I'm excited to learn more about her
and have fun.
We had some tough conversations
early on, right?
You know, you go into the retreat
not worrying about age, and…
It's something I brought up early, right?
So it was kind of
a little rough patch, but…
Um, we had some serious conversations,
and I'm looking forward
to having some fun. So…
Did you say you brought up age early?
-Yeah. I did.
-You did.
He was concerned about it.
[spluttering] I was just--
-But he was being honest.
-Okay.
I took it the wrong way,
and at the end of the day,
I feel like he was being honest
about his feelings
instead of just coming in like, yeah,
everything's sunshine and roses, y'know?
So I feel like because we got
the hard things out of the way first,
now it's time for us to enjoy
and have fun.
-[Libby] Yes!
-Yes, we made it.
All right, Jorge and Vanelle.
-Certainly last but not least.
-Oh man, it's not gonna be least.
[all chuckling]
I'm 27.
All right.
So I'm 35 plus 25. I'm 60.
-[Leah] What?
-Wow.
-What?
-[Logan] There is no fucking way.
There's no fucking way, dude.
Jorge, 60?
Damn, like I did not see that coming.
I didn't know
there were 60-year-olds here.
-[Natalie] What is that--
-[Vanessa] Thirty-three.
-Thirty-three.
-[Pfeifer] Dang!
-[Leah] You win.
-Thirty-three.
-[Leah] Okay.
-[Andrew] Damn.
-[Leah] They win…
-What?
Vanelle, how surprised were you
when you heard his age?
I was shocked because I thought
he was, like, in his forties.
-But he is fine, so I'm not mad at it.
-Thank you, dear. Thank you.
-Tell 'em. Tell 'em, tell 'em.
-[all laughing]
You all found each other,
and that is the most amazing thing.
Right now you're here, you're together,
but will you wanna leave this experience
as a couple?
That's a question you'll have to answer
at the commitment ceremony.
Oh.
[dramatic sting]
[Libby] Am I afraid of commitment?
Maybe. Am I afraid
of commitment ceremonies?
Yes.
You all found love
without knowing anyone's age.
-[Logan] Yeah!
-So give yourselves a toast.
And good luck.
-Enjoy your time together.
-[excited chatter]
-I love you.
-I love you.
[Logan] Cheers to ageless dating, right?
-[Derrick] Whoo!
-[Jorge] Yeah!
[upbeat music playing]
[music fades]
[funky music playing]
Ooh. Home sweet home.
-[Libby] I like that.
-Yeah.
[Libby chuckling]
Oh yay.
Super cozy.
-[chuckling]
-[Andrew] This is super, super cozy.
It's real--
-Yeah.
-I think my suitcase is bigger than…
-The bed, perhaps. Yeah.
-Than the bed.
This entire experience has been a bubble,
but then moving in together
makes it a little bit more real.
[chill music playing]
Don't worry,
you can borrow my curling iron.
-I know you were concerned about that.
-Don't put anything on my shelves.
[chuckling] I won't. Oh my gosh.
I definitely think it's going to…
to challenge us living together.
Like, are we on the same wavelength?
Like, is she someone
that I can see introducing to my kids?
You know, that's…
That's a lot to digest,
but every day that I spend with her,
I feel like I'm falling
a little bit more for her,
and I…
I do think
that she could be my forever person.
Um, so what's…
What's the bedroom situation looking like?
Um, well… It's looking good for me.
[music stops]
-Um…
-[Libby laughing]
Are you bringing…
are you bringing a friend?
I… I guess you could maybe be invited
if you act correctly.
-Okay.
-[Libby] Yeah.
-I think I can do that.
-Okay.
-I feel like you've done good so far.
-I try.
You earned a pass to sleep in the bed
and not the couch, I guess.
For one night.
One night. Okay.
-I'll take it.
-Yeah, say thank you.
-Thank you.
-You're welcome.
Oh my gosh. Aren't I so kind?
[lighthearted music playing]
I think we're gonna be fine.
I'm honestly not that nervous.
I feel like we're both just…
I mean, you're not chill, but I'm chill.
-Yeah.
-And I'm just very go with the flow.
So I think, like,
I'll be able to tolerate… this.
Aww.
That's the sweetest thing
a guy's ever said to me.
-You're so sweet.
-I know. I told you I'm a lover.
Aww.
Thank you. You're so kind.
I love when you say you tolerate me.
That's very sweet.
[both laughing]
[upbeat music playing]
-[Vanelle] Cheers.
-Cheers.
[glasses clinking]
[Jorge] To a new beginning.
-To a new beginning, baby.
-[both chuckle]
How do you feel?
-I'm glad we're finally here.
-[Vanelle] Me too.
You know what I mean?
We finally get our own alone time.
It's like we can talk about all the things
we wanna talk about. We can have fun.
'Cause, you know, our connection's dope,
but we gotta still talk.
'Cause I know
there's some things we were talking about.
You were talking about your sister.
I wanna hear about this.
-You're the youngest of five.
-I'm the youngest of five, yeah.
I have two older brothers
and two older sisters.
So what are your brothers gonna think?
My brothers, I don't think
they're gonna care, actually.
-Really?
-Yeah.
I don't think they're gonna care
that much.
It's just my other middle sister
that might be more shocked
and might be a little bit uneasy about it.
But ultimately,
I think they're just gonna…
As long as, like, they know
you treat me right, they'll love you.
So, all right.
You have a kind of an understanding
of how your family feels?
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. What about you?
My family are all,
if you like them, then I love them.
They know I don't bring…
That's not something I…
I don't bring anyone around my family
that I'm not serious about.
But here's the thing
that we haven't talked about.
-Okay.
-I have children.
[inhales deeply]
And I see your face.
Does that bother you? What's going on?
Like, I mean, I guess, like,
we were in the Promise Room and stuff
and you brought up kids and stuff,
but then you didn't say that you had kids.
Well, to be honest with you,
I didn't think it was the time.
That day, the most important thing
was the age difference.
'Cause if you can handle
the age difference,
me having children has nothing to do
with anything, I didn't think
Well, just like you said to me
in the Promise Room
when I was bringing up, like,
my celibacy and stuff.
I was just very much
a little bit angsty about it and worried.
And you were just basically like,
"You should have told me this earlier."
"There's nothing we can't talk about."
That's how I feel about
the kid thing too, right now.
I'm not afraid
to bring up anything to you. I'm not.
Believe me, I'm not.
I wasn't trying to avoid anything from you
because they're very important to me.
-Mm-hmm.
-You know what I mean?
And obviously,
their ages are closer to your age.
I mean, my daughter
is basically the same age.
And my son, he's 23.
[Vanelle] Mmm.
[Jorge] My daughter, she will definitely
side-eye. Because she's--
My daughter is very, like your family,
very protective of me.
So how are your relationship
with your kids' mothers?
Good. Cordial. Cordial.
Now, are we friends? Best friends? No.
I mean, it's, you know…
-But you, like, get along.
-Yes. It's very cordial.
So how important is, like,
having more kids to you?
Like, would you be okay
if you never have more kids?
If I never have more kids, it'd be because
I'm never in a serious relationship.
So you do want more kids?
If I'm in a serious relationship.
And, like, let's say for instance,
let's say you and I got together.
You said, "Jorge, I don't want kids…"
-Okay. Be--
-Oh, you'd be okay with that?
Yeah. Because…
The most important thing to me
is the person that I'm with.
So if I come upon someone
who I genuinely connect with,
I'm gonna explore it to the utmost because
I wanna find a woman who…
Those are the last eyes I see
before I close mine, you know.
That is the epitome of a real love, right?
Do you think you can have that with me?
I can have it with you.
I know I can have it with you, babe.
-Do you believe it?
-I do.
I honestly thought he didn't have kids.
So I was just very surprised by that.
And it's not an issue that he has kids.
Like, I'm totally fine with it.
But I just don't want it to feel like
he's, like, keeping things from me.
I feel like he should've known,
who I am and the type of person that I am,
that it would be okay.
[brooding pop music playing]
[chuckling] I wanna
share something with you.
-Oh, you do?
-Yeah.
[both chuckling]
[Pfeifer] Oh my God, this is adorable.
[Derrick] Yeah, I like that smile.
-This is the cutest thing in the world.
-Yeah.
[Derrick chuckling softly]
[Pfeifer] Do you feel like when you
had him, you were ready for children?
Yeah, so I think,
honestly, to a certain degree,
you can never be completely ready.
-Right.
-Because every kid's, like, different.
-So you just, like…
-Right.
You gotta just roll with the punches,
you know,
because you're… you're trying to balance,
like, so much. Right?
And so for me, it was like…
Whether at that point,
like a relationship,
being a father and, like, career, it was--
I just had to understand that,
okay, some days
you're gonna suck at something.
You just gotta accept it.
Like, it's no way you can be all three.
But just make sure you don't suck
at the same thing all the time in a row.
-That's a good point, a great point.
-Yeah.
-Yeah. So.
-Yeah.
I've never dated anybody
who has had children before.
And I think being a stepparent or
being involved with somebody's children,
you can still have a great impact.
It means a lot
to do a good job in that role.
But I don't have any experience of my own.
And I haven't been around people
who have kids very often.
I wanna continue
going forward with Derrick.
And I… I am committed to him.
These are questions,
and these are challenges that'll come up.
I would be lying
if I said I wasn't anxious.
[Derrick] It's okay.
[Derrick groaning]
-Oh, I've been waiting for this.
-Yeah, this is nice.
-[Pfeifer] Mmm.
-Yeah.
I didn't tell you you have pretty eyes.
-Thank you. You said that many times.
-I know. Well…
-I'll say it a few more.
-I'll take it.
[upbeat music playing]
We just can't get enough ♪
Gonna blow the roof off
We're taking over the party ♪
Bring in that mash up
Killing it like karate ♪
[Leah] You know I'm still mad at you.
I never wanna be surprised
about something you've done.
Because at the end of the day,
I came here with you
and not to be or feel alone.
And I was very alone and-- In that moment.
I apologize for everything
about the situation.
The fact that
I didn't bring it up right away.
We clicked. And after a couple days,
I was like, should I bring this up?
And it was back and forth in my mind.
And I decided not to.
'Cause I just thought that'd be
a better decision. Clearly it wasn't.
Yeah. I just think, for me,
I wish you would've said something.
So I would've been,
"Oh no, he connected with someone."
"He did share a moment, a kiss."
Then I'm like, "All right, cool, I know."
I will say once we were in communication,
there was no communication with her.
It's just a mistake. It's a mistake.
I am upset at myself for allowing this
to even be a thing today.
It's kind of like
the honeymoon phase was the retreat.
We already passed the honeymoon phase.
It's too bad
that that was how we started this.
His immaturity
definitely showed a little bit.
[pensive music playing]
I want someone who can come to me,
who feels a safe space in-- with me,
like his partner.
And when he couldn't, it hurt.
I'm not gonna keep wasting time
on people who can't communicate well.
You literally place such a big thing
on communicating and being consistent.
That's why I was like, dope,
I got a communicator. I'm doing great.
Then all of a sudden this happens
and I'm, like, blindsided,
like in front of people.
It just… It hurt.
-It did.
-I'm sorry.
I'm really sorry, honestly.
["Give Me X's And O's"
by Nine One One playing]
All this to ourselves.
-This is nice.
-[Logan] How does it feel?
-[Vanessa] Amazing. Uh-huh.
-[Logan] Good?
So let's say we have, like,
an amazing two weeks here, okay?
We have an amazing two weeks.
We have this beautiful connection.
And we're like,
we want to explore this further.
-Yeah.
-What would that look like for us?
Like, you go back to Dallas.
I go back to Ohio.
Like, could you see this working out?
Like, we could continue
to have a long-distance relationship?
I mean, long-distance is hard, right?
I mean, obviously, like, distance…
The issue for me would be, like, trust.
I know you're gonna
wanna go out with your friends.
-You're gonna wanna, like, do things.
-Yeah.
I just would have to know, like,
I can trust you.
-That you're not, like…
-Yeah.
…going on dates with other girls
or bringing girls back to your house.
Would you actually be worried about that?
-Yes! I would be worried about that.
-[laughs]
-I mean, I feel like--
-Wow.
Have you been cheated on before?
Yes, I have.
-That's big for me, like…
-Yeah.
'Cause the minute
you compromise somebody's trust.
Yeah, you have to know,
that's like a scary thing.
-Like…
-That's fair.
I just would have to know
I could just trust you.
-Yeah.
-Like, would you trust me?
-Yeah. I would hope.
-Oh, I love that.
Okay, so let's say that this does work out
and we do the long-distance thing.
Would you tell your friends how old I am?
[Logan scoffing]
-Can we just lie and say I'm 39?
-Yeah, or we don't have to lie.
-Just own it.
-Really?
I love that you said that.
That was so cute.
I love that you're smart enough
to know the right answers.
[Logan chuckling]
-I think I've learned my lesson.
-Even if you don't mean it.
-I appreciate that you're saying that.
-Was that a good answer?
That was a good answer. Okay?
You think they'd make fun of you?
[Logan] Maybe. I don't know.
I don't think they would.
I mean, maybe.
They might say something, but like…
Should I… How much Botox should I get
before I come?
-Shut up. You don't need anything.
-[laughs] Should I get lip filler? Like…
Do you like girls with that?
-No.
-Okay.
-Am I annoying you asking these questions?
-No, your concerns are valid.
And they're sweet,
and it makes you look like
a little innocent…
-Needy?
-…sweet little girl.
-Am I worrying?
-[Logan] A little too much.
-Are you worried?
-I'm not.
I was only worried when you were worried.
Yeah, that was like a week ago.
-Oh my gosh. It feels like a year ago.
-Two weeks ago.
-I think we're good. Okay?
-Okay.
["Sugar Sweet Venom" by Richard Macklin,
Eloise Weeks, & Sebastian Truman playing]
Sugar sweet venom made like heaven ♪
Just for you ♪
[John] It's
the beginning of the next chapter.
I know we're in the bubble,
but I've never been as vulnerable
as I am with someone.
Like, I'm fine with telling you how I feel
and like, showing my emotions
and not being scared of expressing
what you mean to me.
[Theresa] Mm-hmm.
Because in the past, that's like,
scared some people off,
or I haven't been comfortable
like expressing exactly how I feel.
And I feel like I'm ready
for this next chapter.
You're so beyond your years.
-Like, it's truly insane.
-[exhales sharply]
You really do know who you are.
You know what you want.
You see this relationship for what it is.
And, you know, I am genuinely, like,
grateful and blown away at who you are.
And like, I can't believe, you know,
this has happened for me.
[soft emotional music playing]
[Theresa chuckling softly]
So…
Yeah, I'm just glad that, like,
this all kind of just fell into place.
It seems kind of too good to be true.
All right, let's go to bed.
[Theresa chuckling]
[kissing]
[John] Mmm.
Mmm, mmm, mmm.
I'll never forget the first time
you asked to kiss me. It was so sweet.
And I was really glad you did.
-[Theresa chuckling]
-It was fun.
-You almost knocked my teeth out.
-You knocked my teeth out.
[Theresa laughing]
-You know.
-Let's go to bed.
-[Theresa] Okay.
-[exhales deeply]
["Do Bad Things To Me"
by Nick Kingsley & Malory playing]
All right, this is falling off of me.
[John blows]
What happens when I close my eyes ♪
These dreams are opening doors… ♪
-[Theresa] Hurry.
-[John] Ooh.
Making my head spin
Always leaving me wanting more… ♪
[Chris] Oh, boy.
-How you feeling?
-[Leah] I feel good.
I try not to look at you a lot, though,
because, you know, you fine.
[Leah chuckling]
Got my imagination running ♪
-[Leah] Are you gonna carry me to bed?
-[Chris] Yeah.
-You want me to? [straining]
-I love that you pick me up so like…
-Don't… What? I am not that heavy.
-[Chris straining]
You-- I am not that heavy.
I think I've lost pounds.
-[Chris] Yeah, you have.
-[Leah] I have.
Ugh! Am I getting heavier?
I'm gonna be, like, dead weight.
And I want you to… ♪
[Leah] You're so cute.
And I want you to… ♪
[Leah] How do you want me?
Do bad things to me ♪
-[Pfeifer] I'm so happy to be here.
-Me too.
But I'm just glad to be, like, set.
-I know. It's like…
-Um, but I'm happy. I'm happy.
It's been a crazy day,
but it feels like a crazy, like, week.
-Yeah.
-Like leaving and waiting for this.
I know.
[Derrick] All right.
Get some sleep.
Never felt so good ♪
Give me whips and chains ♪
Bring your toys
You better come to play ♪
You turning your light off?
Better.
Then swing me like a pendulum ♪
[Derrick chuckling]
[kissing]
[moaning]
You make me wanna… ♪
Another day down.
Another day we learn some more
about each other, right?
-[Vanelle] Mm-hmm.
-That's the best part.
-That's what we're here for, right?
-Yeah.
-You ready to go to bed?
-I'm tired, yeah.
-Me too.
-Give me a kiss. Mmm.
-That was a weak kiss.
-[chuckles]
[Vanelle] You're dangerous to kiss!
[Jorge chuckling] That look in your eye!
[Vanelle moaning]
My face is refreshed and skinny.
-And skinny. Like a gua sha.
-I gotta go to bed.
-Yeah.
-Yeah.
Do bad things to me ♪
-All right.
-[Libby] Good night.
[both chuckling, kissing]
-[kissing]
-[Theresa moaning]
[Theresa] Tell me what you want.
[John] I want you!
[Theresa moaning]
I've been a bad girl ♪
[Vanessa] There's a little slider.
There's a black slider behind the thing.
-[Logan] Yeah, it's probably--
-No, it's right in your face.
-It looks like-- Right there.
-Right here?
[switch clicking]
[Logan] I'm tired. Let's go to sleep.
-[Vanessa] Are you kidding?
-[Logan] Uh, no.
I've been a bad girl ♪
[Vanessa gasping] What?
Do bad things to me ♪
[song fades]
["Call It Love"
by Richard Macklin playing]
Sleep, zero.
-[Leah chuckling]
-Happiness, ten.
[both laughing]
Chef Boyardee.
We're doing some sausage links,
scrambled eggs, mimosas,
and then Libby is gonna, uh, teach me
her morning affirmations.
-We're about to be bad bitches.
-[Libby] Yeah.
We're just exploring ♪
Not trying to fall in ♪
Don't have to call it… ♪
[Vanessa] Logan, what are you gonna wear?
Decisions, decisions.
[Vanessa] Do you think
we brought enough clothes?
Uh, yeah, but I'm, you know…
[Vanessa] Wear something colorful.
Hi, guys, we're here… [laughing]
We're here in the gym.
Um, I'm gonna run,
and Derrick is gonna do
whatever he's gonna do.
Probably a lot more than me
because I don't lift, so.
[chuckling] Let's get it.
We dont' have to call it love ♪
[Theresa] Do you wanna work out?
[John] Yeah.
[Theresa] I'm feeling good.
We had a nice night together,
very comfortable.
Um, no issues really at all.
Like, he's easy to sleep with, next to.
[chuckling]
What are you gonna do, the StairMaster?
Um, probably because my legs are toasted.
We had some fun,
and we enjoyed each other's company.
Um, I think we got some sleep.
Do you ever do Epsom salt baths after,
like for sore joints or sore muscles?
No, but I heard my new roommate
likes that, so…
Chemistry is perfect, like,
I can't complain at all.
Um,
shocking, I guess, you know,
knowing our age difference.
Could get used to this. [chuckles]
-Ready?
-I'm ready.
We don't have to call it love ♪
Come kiss these lips ♪
You know you can't resist… ♪
[Vanelle] How was your night last night?
-Boring. I was not happy.
-[chuckling]
I learned a lot of things about you.
You know, the funny thing is, um,
I learned different things
from different people when I was young.
Very, very young.
Um, very involved in church, so it's like…
-That was the thing.
-So who was a pastor?
-Your mom, your dad?
-[Jorge] My dad.
-Your dad?
-Mm-hmm.
But my mother and my father,
they separated when I was five.
So I kind of grew up with my mom,
you know?
-And she was everything, always will be.
-Mm-hmm.
-I have voicemails of her in my phone.
-Oh, really?
Voicemails of her in my phone
that I still listen to.
Me and my father's relationship,
not so much.
-We didn't have a great relationship.
-Why?
Because he… He just wasn't around.
But you know, my mother,
the one thing I give to her
is that she would never,
no disrespect towards my father, never.
-Mm-hmm.
-And I think that's important.
That's why I am like I am now.
Any woman that was ever in my life,
I'm not gonna speak negative
about her. Just not.
So…
Do you think that separating and stuff
affected your dating life?
Um, no. I don't think they played a part.
I think that I'm a grown man.
I made my own decisions, you know.
And whatever decisions
that I made in my life,
I'll live with them, you know what I mean?
[Vanelle] Mm-hmm.
What's funny is,
because I'm so much older than you,
I should have like thousands
of more relationships, but I didn't.
Because I had several
long-term relationships, you know?
Really? And I haven't had
long-term relationships.
[Jorge] Really?
The longest is like, what, a year?
-A year and a half?
-Wow. Really?
-You haven't dated a lot.
-Mm-mm.
Which is really… That's not the norm.
Like, normally
if you meet someone who's 27, they--
A female who's 27,
she's been through her relations.
-She has had relationship history.
-Mm-hmm.
You haven't had a lot,
which is interesting.
[contemplative music playing]
Oh my God.
Are we getting deeper? [laughing]
[Jorge] Yes, yes.
[Vanelle chuckling]
[upbeat music playing]
[Chris] First time grocery shopping.
Can you see us doing this
for 20 more years?
Yes. Then I can send you to the store
because then you'll know what I want.
Exactly. We'll do it three more times.
And then after that I'll go by myself.
Yeah. [chuckling]
-In 20 years, how old will you be, babe?
-20 years from today, 46.
-That'll be delicious. 20 years.
-I'll be older than you are right now.
Are you scared? Okay,
but I'll still look younger than you.
-With the way you take care of your skin.
-So in 20 years, I'm gonna be 40.
-Sixty-one?
-[Chris laughing]
-Wow, that's kind of grown, huh?
-[Chris] Um, I'm gonna get some cuke.
-Yeah. No, that's for all you.
-You want some cuke?
I'm not gonna lie. I can picture you
with salt-and-gray and you'll be fine.
I'm already graying,
if you look at my hair.
I know.
Well, if you're salt-and-pepper, babe.
I don't know. You--
I'm gonna like it a lot.
I can already see it. Yeah. Give me this.
[upbeat music playing]
What are you gonna get?
-Coffee, tea? [chuckles]
-Hopefully they have my raspberry Danish.
Oh.
No tea. I'm not a tea guy.
-I love a green tea. A green tea latte.
-[John] You know what tea I like?
I like
peach Snapple.
[laughing] Oh God,
that's such a college pretty boy drink.
[John] Yeah.
[Theresa] It was interesting, like,
being in the gym together
and just kind of like
observing people around us
and looking at us.
I don't know, do you feel, like,
uncomfortable around other adults
like with us together or anything?
-Does that make you feel uncomfortable?
-Absolutely not.
How is that not--
How… how is that possible?
'Cause I don't give a fuck.
Like…
Yeah.
I know that my parents don't care.
I know that my sister--
Like, what if someone came up to us
and was like…
[laughing] "What, is this your son?"
[Theresa chuckling]
I would fucking die. I would die.
But worrying about
it's not gonna not make it happen.
No, I know, but I just--
I wanna be prepared.
Yeah. And I appreciate that.
It's shocking that he is so at ease
and so excited about being together.
It says that he's secure in his own skin.
I am as well, but again,
I think it's the big age gap
that's still kind of got me, like,
questioning things. I'm like, huh?
If he was just older than my oldest son,
life would be
a little bit sweeter right now. [chuckles]
-I think, like, my personal circle…
-Mm-hmm.
…they're gonna be like, "What?"
-Hu-- Huh?
-[John] Uh-huh.
In what aspect?
[birds chirping]
Um, interests.
-Not only interests.
-Well, yeah. Like, do you like--
I mean, typically, like, younger
and older people, generally speaking,
don't do, like,
the same type of activities, right?
[John] Mm-hmm.
I mean, obviously I think we both know
or, like, we're realizing
we have more in common than we do not.
[John] Mm-hmm.
Again, like being an older woman,
with a younger guy is just not something
that's like commonly seen.
So I think that's
something to just ponder
and realize that, like,
we're kind of not in the masses.
-Yeah.
-[Theresa] Right?
-Do you wanna be in the masses?
-No, I don't care.
I wanna be with someone
who I'm, like, in love with.
-[John] Yeah.
-And, you know, my point is-- is like…
…there's just gonna obviously
be repercussions because of that.
-Because we're like kind of unique…
-Mm-hmm.
…which is good, but it's also something
just like be prepared for.
-[John] Yeah.
-Right?
I can tell it's, like, weighing on you.
Yeah. I mean, this is fairly new, so…
Of course. And I told you,
it's not gonna be a flip of a switch.
True.
-[John] Like…
-Yeah. Good point.
I agree.
You don't have to always agree.
Trust me,
I will not always agree with you.
["Give U My Love" by LIBERATI playing]
Everything seems to fit just right ♪
Oh yeah… ♪
You'll do a set and then I'll do a set.
Like, whatever you do, I do.
-Whatever I do, you do?
-Yes.
[Jorge] Okay, that's a good bet.
I can do that.
Take it off.
-[Vanelle chuckling]
-Yeah, keep saying that. Keep saying that.
All right.
Last night I told her, "Okay,
since you Miss Celibate,
you stay on your side of the bed."
And she didn't. You know what I'm saying?
Not that, you know, we did anything,
but she just came over
because she wanted to cuddle.
I was like, "Oh, so now you wanna cuddle."
[pensive music playing]
[Vanelle] Mm-hmm.
Yeah. [chuckling]
You're… you're here making googly eyes.
Vanelle's celibacy is gonna be
a point of contact, interest, talk.
Um, do I wanna be, uh, celibate?
No, not in any way, shape, or form.
But do I respect her opinion
and her stance and her belief?
Absolutely.
But I think
anything merits a conversation, right?
Why you're doing it?
What's the real motivation behind it?
What you plan on accomplishing from it?
What you really think happens from it?
And I know that's a--
a source of, uh, sensitivity for her.
-What did you think about last night?
-It was fun.
-It was fun?
-Yeah.
It was good sleeping together.
-Did it make you uncomfortable at all?
-No, not at all.
Like, I just felt so comfortable with you.
And it was, like, natural.
-Yeah.
-Yeah. It was like that, right?
Yeah. And I didn't, I mean, like, I--
I didn't expect it to be like that.
What did you expect?
I mean, I don't know. I was just--
I was, actually, very…
A little nervous
about us sharing a bed together.
-Really?
-Yes.
But, you know,
it was just nice having you there with me.
That's nice.
I didn't know you were nervous.
Mm-hmm. I was.
-You handled it well.
-Oh, thank you.
Because I thought you were just easy.
Like, as far as you were not tripping.
-No--
-Yeah, no, I was.
-Really?
-Mm-hmm.
Wow. I'm glad I didn't know.
'Cause I'd be like,
I'm good to stay on the couch.
Yeah. This is all new to me.
'Cause I haven't lived with anyone before.
Did it seem easy?
-It seemed easy. Like, it wasn't--
-It was so easy.
-It was seamless, right?
-Yeah.
I keep looking for, like,
okay, so what's the catch?
-Really?
-Yeah.
Okay, so, at first,
when you said celibate, I was like…
[Vanelle chuckling]
-[Jorge] Oh.
-So that's the catch?
That's the catch.
Okay, she's celibate. Okay.
You celibate, I'll buy a bit.
But, I mean, I'm just like, nah, okay.
But I gotta stop looking
for what's the catch. Because…
Um, I… I dig you,
and I dig what we got going on.
Yeah. You couldn't stop cuddling me.
[Vanelle chuckling]
Um, let me see. I could have sworn…
[chuckling] Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay.
So it wasn't--
Oh, so it wasn't just me.
Oh, it wasn't just me.
I could have sworn, I'd say,
"I'll just chill," and you're like, "No."
Now, you know what?
Do you think
anybody would believe that you…
-[kissing]
-[Jorge chuckling]
…stayed on your side of the bed?
-Do you think anybody would believe that?
-Yes.
No. Look at you.
I stayed on my end of the mat, babe.
[both laughing]
Why did you climb over?
Hmm?
-I just wanted to kiss you.
-You just wanted to kiss me?
[Vanelle] Mm-hmm.
Is this what you did last night?
[Jorge chuckling]
-Oh, but last-- [laughing]
-[Vanelle shushing]
[upbeat pop music playing]
How did we get here
The world at our feet? ♪
We got everything we want ♪
Oh ♪
We live forever, so wild and so free ♪
-Hi!
-[Theresa] Hi!
-How are you?
-I missed you. You look so good.
-Thank you. I love the shorts.
-[chuckling] Thanks.
What are you doing?
I just was having some wine,
and I poured you a glass.
-Yeah.
-Perfect timing.
-Yay.
-I'm dying to hear everything.
[Vanessa] Yeah.
-Cheers. [chuckles]
-[Vanessa] Cheers.
-Cheers. Mm-hmm.
-[Theresa] Cheers to this fun experience.
-How's it… How, like, what's…
-[Vanessa] Yeah.
-So we got moved in. I know.
-Have you slept?
-It's like a whirlwind, isn't it?
-Mm-hmm.
-Yeah, we got, like, settled in, moved in.
-Yeah.
-First night, so exhausted. Didn't sleep.
-[Theresa] I know.
-You were so tired when we got here.
-Yeah. Yeah.
You had your dinner.
How did your dinner go?
-It was really good. It was very cute.
-[Vanessa] Okay.
Um…
-What did he make you?
-He made me a New York strip.
Okay.
With special potatoes
that I guess his family makes.
-That was really sweet.
-Yeah, it was really sweet.
-And it turned out really good and--
-[Vanessa] Okay.
-So… Yeah.
-You guys slept well and everything?
-Yeah, we slept really good. [chuckling]
-[Vanessa] Okay, good.
-How good?
-Yeah.
[both chuckling]
[Theresa] Hmm.
-[Vanessa] Well, good.
-We slept good.
Okay, good.
I'm glad your sleep is going well.
-Yeah.
-So I have to know.
Have you guys had sex yet?
Um, yeah, we have.
-Good for you! I'm so jealous.
-[chuckling] Yeah.
I would like to do it two times a day,
at least, if possible.
-Are you the initiator or is he?
-I think it's kind of mutual, actually.
-Yes! It's like a magnetism. Like a draw.
-Exactly.
-And that's what I was hoping because…
-Yeah.
I was this magnet, and he was the magnet
that turned this way, pushed this way.
How you do the magnets
when they together in the opposite?
Yeah. I almost feel like
I'm in the friend zone right now.
-[Theresa] Oh no. Okay.
-Yes.
-Do you guys hug or hold hands?
-[Vanessa] Yeah, we hug and kiss.
-It's very PG. It's not even PG-13.
-[Theresa] So not surface level…
-It's like a Disney movie right now.
-[laughs]
Like, he just wants to be my prince.
And I adore him. I really do.
And he's not treating me badly,
but I wanna feel, like, crazy in love.
You know what I mean?
I wanna feel like I can't be without you.
-[Theresa] Exactly.
-It's the beginning.
That beginning phase of the relationship.
So, do you think he is just holding back,
or do you think he's, like…
Like, do you think he wants more?
Yeah, I don't know. That's where we're at.
-I'm at a point right now that I'm, like…
-[Theresa] Yeah.
Because you definitely should feel
like this person wants--
-[Vanessa] Yeah, wants me.
-Is in it. Right, exactly.
-[Vanessa] I wanna respect his journey.
-Yeah.
But I felt like,
when we arrived in Vancouver
and we were at our mixer,
like, everybody was cuddled up
and we were just, like, you know.
Kind of holding hands from afar.
So then I'm like,
is this issue that I'm having with him,
is this an age-related issue
or is this just his personality?
-So I feel like he's apprehensive.
-Exactly. If he's in his head.
Yeah. And I think there's a stigma that
people think women after a certain age,
like, oh, we're just gonna dry up
and we're not into that.
-Oh God, no.
-I'm, like, on fire.
-Like, I've been ready to explode.
-[chuckles]
Like, I can't--
-If it was me and I was in your shoes…
-[Vanessa] Yeah.
…I would rip off the Band-Aid
and go for it.
-Maybe tonight's the night.
-That's what I'd do.
Obviously, you deserve
to have your needs met.
-And all of those things.
-Yeah.
And so it's like,
when do you make that decision
to say, "Okay, enough is enough."
"If you're not on the same page as me,
like, I can't move forward with this."
Literally the first night, I was like,
I wonder who's having sex right now.
Who's not? Because I'm not!
[both laughing]
-I'm batting a zero right now. So…
-Yeah. Well.
-How many times a day? [laughs]
-Yeah. It's… Oh my God.
I feel like a 27-year-old
should be like an Energizer bunny.
-Oh, trust me.
-[Vanessa] Okay.
[both laughing]
["Higher Love" by LIBERATI playing]
I want a higher love, a higher love ♪
Ooh ♪
I need a higher love… ♪
I'm excited to play soccer.
Have you ever kicked a soccer ball before?
-I've kicked some balls in my days.
-Have you?
[both chuckling]
-[Andrew] Do you know I used to play?
-What?
Yeah. I used to play here in Vancouver,
like, after college.
I moved here, signed with the Whitecaps.
I was, like, hurt coming out of college.
So, like, I was rehabbing.
I just wasn't in, like,
the best place mentally.
And then not playing. It just sucked.
-So, yeah. I don't really talk--
-Sorry.
I don't talk about it 'cause, um,
I don't know…
Part of me is, like, regretful about it.
The other part is a little embarrassed
because I feel like I just gave up.
-So…
-No, I don't think it's embarrassing.
If anything it's, like,
a fun… fun little fact of yours.
It's a fun little--
Honestly, that's what it is,
a fun little fact.
You have so many other
redeeming qualities. That doesn't…
So my short-lived
professional soccer career
isn't going to scare you away?
I don't think it's gonna be the thing, um,
that's the deal-breaker for me.
Well, let's see if you do even know
how to kick a ball.
-Go stand over there.
-I told you I've kicked balls before.
[upbeat pop music playing]
-[grunting]
-Oh! Okay.
-Not bad. Not bad.
-Thank you.
[Andrew] Coming back to Vancouver
after the way I left 17 years ago…
Ow! [laughing]
-[Andrew] For me, it's a vulnerable thing.
-[Libby] Oh no!
And it's not an easy thing
for me to talk about.
Ow! My foot already hurts.
[Andrew] But I think she creates a space
where, like, I feel, you know,
safe enough to tell her things like that.
[Libby] Ah!
The conversations that we're having
on a day-to-day basis keep getting deeper.
I'd really prefer a hot girl walk.
From an intimacy standpoint,
it just feels like it's really clicking.
And I really do feel like we've connected,
you know, so much the last 24 hours.
-[music warps]
-[Andrew grunting]
[laughing]
-[Andrew] Oh.
-Oops.
How old were you
when you were playing soccer here?
Twenty-one.
When that didn't work out,
it was, like, a huge letdown?
Or was it just kind of like,
okay, I'll revert now?
Like, all I ever wanted to do growing up
was play soccer.
I didn't care about my grades.
My grades were just to get me through
so that I could continue to play soccer.
Like, it was soccer, soccer, soccer.
Like, that's all I ever wanted to do.
I think what messed me up
the most at the time was
my dad.
I know that he was so disappointed
without-- and he would never say it to me.
But, like, I feel still to this day
that I just, like, really let him down.
-More than I let myself down.
-[Libby] Yeah.
Yeah, that's hard.
But I think a lot of people
probably disappoint their parents.
And there'll be times
where your daughters take a different path
than what you were hoping.
But all you can do
is what's best for yourself in the moment.
And sometimes that won't make sense
to anybody else but yourself.
No, I feel you.
I feel like there's, like,
this new side of Libby that I'm seeing.
And, I don't know, I just--
I feel, little by little,
you're letting your guard down.
And you're showing me this, you know,
softer, more intentional side of you.
And I'm just like, who is this person?
And it's, I don't know,
it's really melting my heart a little bit.
[uplifting music playing]
And honestly, like, I--
I am really surprised.
I don't think that at 22
I would ever be able
to do something like this.
So I think it speaks to,
you know, the woman that you are.
Because I don't think
I would've been in the right place
to… to do something like this.
I told you I'm… I'm a little crazy.
[Andrew chuckling]
We know that.
It seems like where we're both at
in our lives at this point
is the perfect time
for us to make this relationship work.
I think I'm definitely more attracted
to the fact that he's more mature.
If I met him at 22,
from the way that he's described
himself at that age,
I don't think we would be compatible.
I love the perspective he has
due to the fact that he's older,
and he has gone through
certain experiences
that make him the person that he is today.
So this is perfect timing. [chuckling]
I have a huge, like, man crush
on Cristiano Ronaldo and David Beckham.
Like, I would fangirl big time
if I ever met David Beckham.
Yeah. And that's wild to me
that you don't know who his wife is.
-I told you I'm out of touch with pop…
-You don't know the Spice Girls?
I do, but, like, I couldn't name one.
Not one single Spice Girl?
No.
-That's wild.
-I know, um, TLC.
TLC, but you don't know Spice Girls?
They were like
the biggest, like, girl pop band ever.
When?
-Uh, a little while ago, but it happened.
-[chuckles]
[Libby] I'm thinking
of the Powder Puff Girls.
-Know what that is?
-No.
-Okay.
-Powder Puff?
Don't worry about it.
["Burn" by Nicholas Hill, Mark Underdown,
Glenn Herweijer & Ben Sumner playing]
Just light it up
And let this thing burn ♪
Yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
Just light it up
And let this thing burn ♪
[song fades]
[Pfeifer] You almost done?
-Yeah.
-[Pfeifer] Give it the full few minutes.
[Derrick spitting]
-I'm at the end of my lease?
-[Pfeifer] Yep.
-[Pfeifer chuckling]
-Your turn.
My beloved toothbrush.
[water running, stopping]
-The hell? What in the world?
-[Pfeifer] I like to brush intensely.
-[laughing]
-[Derrick] That toothbrush is…
I actually feel bad for the toothbrush.
-Look-- What the f-- is that?
-[laughing]
[funky music playing]
[both laughing]
[song fades]
-[Logan] Hey, boo.
-Hi.
-How are you?
-Good.
Good to see you.
-What are you up to?
-Want some?
-Yeah. You got one glass here.
-Here. You can have it. I'm good.
-So we can talk.
-All right. Oh, okay.
-[Vanessa] Sit closer.
-Okay.
-How are you?
-I'm good. How are you?
So, I just wanna talk to you.
But don't feel attacked.
Honestly, at the end of the day,
I don't want you to feel attacked.
It's been something
that's been weighing on me.
-Yeah.
-I feel like you're not attracted to me.
[pensive music playing]
I feel like we're kind of
in a friend zone right now.
Okay.
And I… I'm sorry that you feel that way.
Obviously, I'm attracted to you.
I mean, do you honestly feel that way?
Like…
We've been kissing.
We've been holding hands.
We've been cuddling.
-Like, what is it you actually mean?
-I do but I feel that--
I'm the one that has to initiate it.
I would beg to differ.
Okay. I'm not gonna lie to you.
Like, I felt like that last night.
-Okay. Even though we cuddled last night?
-You know, and…
Ish.
I've cuddled more with girl best friends
than we cuddled last night.
-Like, you know.
-Okay.
My thing is
I wanna build this the right way.
The last thing, you know, I'm used to…
[tsks]
-Being physical first.
-[Vanessa] Yeah.
But I wanna build a solid foundation
and get to know you for you.
I don't wanna feel needy,
but I also wanna feel wanted.
-I know.
-Like, attracted.
It doesn't have to be, like, sexual.
I don't want to hook up
on the first night that we're together.
-That's what it sounds like.
-[dramatic sting]
[Logan] It's not that
there's a hesitation to be intimate.
I don't think that's, um,
the driving factor.
If a relationship
starts way too passionate,
way too obsessed,
I think, you know,
a flame that burns too hot too quickly
can burn out.
I'm not gonna love bomb you
because that's…
-It's fake, yeah.
-And it's manipulative.
Okay. Like,
I appreciate you respecting me,
and I appreciate, like,
your communication with me.
But I don't wanna be,
like, a two-week fling,
and then you don't wanna
talk to me anymore.
I don't wanna start developing feelings
for someone who just, like,
think this is a throwaway thing.
I don't wanna go back home
to my empty house.
I don't wanna do this all for nothing.
Like, is he the right person?
Did I pick the right person?
Or did I pick wrong again?
[dramatic music playing]
I just wanted to share with you.
And I-- I just feel like…
[dramatic sting]
[Vanessa sighing]
[brooding pop song playing]
I just wanna feel like
this is just more than a friendship.
Oh ♪
Is this the end? ♪
Is this the final moment? ♪
Oh ♪
Is this the end? ♪
In the eleventh hour ♪
Where you'll take my hand ♪
Or is this the end? ♪
What if tonight is all we have? ♪
Will you choose another path? ♪
What if the end was a new beginning? ♪
Another chance, or is this the end? ♪
[song fades]
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