Somebody Knows Something (2026) s01e07 Episode Script

[reporter 1] Palm Bay Police found
Brandy Hall's fire gear
and her pickup in a local pond.
[reporter 2] Brandy Hall was volunteering
at the Malabar fire station.
[reporter 3] Police do not know
what happened to her.
[Chamberlain] For over 20 years,
Brandy Hall's mysterious disappearance
has confounded true crime fans.
[Mott] She was last seen
leaving her shift.
She told people she was heading home.
Her Dodge pickup was found
submerged in a retention pond.
No body, no clear answers.
[Chamberlain] How could someone like
Brandy Hall have vanished into thin air?
Brandy was a female
going into the fire service.
She had to outperform most men.
I knew something was wrong.
My mom would never
not pick up my phone call.
I started hearing rumors.
Her husband Jeff was running
this marijuana grow operation.
What will someone do
to stay out of prison?
[Chamberlain] There were other secrets.
Brandy and Randall were having an affair.
[Rae] He claimed they hadn't spoken
and then it turned out that
they were communicating
a lot on that evening.
[Richmond] I know I lied.
I walked in there and told them I lied.
We do have new evidence
that's never been revealed before.
She said, "If I catch you with
my husband again, I will kill you."
[gasps]
[Chamberlain] Every year,
more than 600,000 people
go missing in the United States.
[reporter 4] The story of Jaycee Dugard
shocked the nation.
Amy Bradley had simply disappeared
without a trace.
[reporter 5] Asha Degree went to bed
one night and was gone in the morning.
I'm Kara Robinson Chamberlain,
and in 2002,
I was one of those victims.
[reporter 6] At just 15 years old,
Kara was abducted by a serial killer.
[reporter 7] Assaulted and tortured
for 18 hours,
but somehow she managed to escape.
[Chamberlain] I went on to a career
in law enforcement.
Then she wanted to be a victim advocate
and show them
how they can be a survivor like her.
[Chamberlain]
Now I'm investigating the cases
that fascinate true crime fans online.
Because there are people who don't know
what happened to their loved ones.
Somebody knows something.
Somebody saw something.
And if I can bring
one person some answers,
then it's worth everything.
[birds chirping, chittering]
Brandy Hall.
She was 32 years old when she disappeared.
She was a mother of two and a firefighter
at the Malabar Fire Station in Palm Bay.
And the night of August 17th, 2006,
she left work and was never seen again.
Since then,
it's been all over social media.
August 2006 when she went missing.
She leaves her firefighter shift
and vanishes into the night.
And no one can explain
why she disappeared forever.
Stephanie Harlowe has covered
this case on her podcast.
I want to see what she knows.
-[tablet chimes]
-Hi, Stephanie.
Hi.
[Chamberlain]
Let's talk about the Brandy Hall case.
I got pretty deep into it.
It's a very mysterious case.
Brandy was a very interesting person.
She grew up in a kind of rugged area.
She was very hands-on, outdoorsy.
She'd be out there on boats,
four-wheelers, ATVs,
and as she grew older,
she actually became interested
in doing first responder work.
She became a firefighter
and she quickly rose in the ranks
and being at the top of her field.
Yeah, and she wasn't
just a first responder.
She was a welder.
She had a business with her husband
and people seemed to look up to her.
[Harlowe] She's at the top of her career.
Her husband, Jeff, had also had
a very good job in the fire department.
They had a good home life.
They had close-knit friends,
and you would look at her and say,
well, these people have it all.
But at the time that she went missing,
her life had changed rapidly.
It turned out that her husband, Jeff,
was running this marijuana grow operation.
According to Brandy,
she had no idea about it.
[Chamberlain] Yeah, and at that time,
marijuana was looked at very differently,
so this would have been extremely illegal.
Correct. During that time, her husband's
arrested, so he's not able to work.
She was put on a leave of absence
from the Palm Bay Fire Department,
so Brandy has to pick up
all of these side jobs.
And she gets a volunteer position
with the Malabar Fire Department
because she wanted to stay
up-to-date with all the certifications.
So she's volunteering, she's handling the
kids, she's working a bunch of side jobs.
Her marriage isn't doing
that well for obvious reasons.
[Chamberlain] Makes sense.
All of that would be
pretty tough on a marriage.
Your husband's charged with
trafficking and manufacturing cannabis
and facing three years in prison,
and you're raising two kids.
Yeah.
[Chamberlain] And I understand
she was supposed to testify
in her husband's sentencing hearing
the morning after she disappeared.
Absolutely. So, on the day that…
that she went missing,
she went in to her volunteer shift
with the Malabar Fire Department.
Her truck was shown leaving the property
around, uh, 10:50 p.m. on CCTV,
and then from there,
we don't really know where she went.
And then the next night,
her truck was found submerged in water.
And in the truck, they found a substantial
amount of Brandy Hall's blood.
And according to law enforcement,
the amount of blood loss in that truck,
she could not have survived that
and walked away from it.
[pensive music playing]
[Chamberlain] I'm on the way to speak
with Taylor Hall, Brandy's daughter.
Taylor has never agreed
to appear on camera,
but she is committed to doing whatever
it takes to find her mother's killer.
-Hey, Taylor.
-Hello. Come on in.
Thanks.
How old were you when
your mom went missing?
I was ten years old. So, coming up
in August, it's going to be 20 years.
I definitely block things out.
I blocked my entire childhood out.
And the reason I am that way is
because of what happened back in 2006.
I can't even remember things
from when I was, like, 15.
-It was just, like, ongoing, so…
-[Chamberlain] Yeah.
Blocking things out.
I feel like that's such a common way
to deal with things.
Whenever you're in active trauma,
you actually don't convert short-term
memory to long-term memory.
Because of what happened to me,
I have like tens of thousands
of photos in my camera roll
because I'm like, I don't have a memory.
I'm the same way.
Well, a few memories
have started to come back.
Now that I'm older
and trying to process everything,
I decided it was time to learn,
not only about her case,
but about her as a person.
I started researching things,
speaking to people,
reaching out to people.
The more I talk to people,
the more memories come back to me.
[Chamberlain]
Oh, these are sweet right here.
Oh, I can see how much
you look like your mom.
[Hall] People say I look like her,
but I don't see it.
-[Chamberlain] This is your brother?
-[Hall] Yeah.
Our house was always busy.
We were always doing something.
My mom and dad
were both firefighter medics.
I don't have a lot of memories of my mom
and dad while they were married,
but everyone always says
they were, like, disgustingly in love.
[Hall] My dad was working
in St. Cloud as a firefighter.
My mom was volunteering, and they met
through training, running calls together.
I would say that their personalities
were very similar.
They both were
adrenaline-seeking, adventurous.
My parents had close friends, other
firefighters from different stations.
Everyone knows everyone.
My mom, like, we literally
could never go anywhere
without someone knowing her and talking.
We would go camping every year.
My mom was a very big tomboy.
She loved hunting and fishing
or even just building things.
People tell me that
we used to be attached at the hip.
Do you remember the last time
that you talked to her?
Yeah.
The last day that I saw her and spoke
to her was Thursday, August 17th, 2006.
The night, um, that she went missing,
I was ten.
She was getting ready to leave for work
in the Malabar volunteer fire station.
And she told us bye
and she'd be back in the morning.
And then around 9:00 p.m.,
she called us to say our prayers.
We did it over the phone whenever
she was working at the fire station.
-Do you still remember it?
-Yeah.
"Now I lay me down to sleep.
I pray the Lord, my soul to keep.
If I should die before I wake,
I pray the Lord, my soul to take."
That was the last that I've spoken to her.
What do you remember about the morning?
I remember us getting up for school
and getting ready and my mom wasn't there.
And my mom was the type of person where
if she said she was going to be somewhere,
that she was going to be there.
I knew something was wrong because
she wasn't answering anyone's calls
and my mom would never
not pick up my phone call.
And my dad was clearly stressed,
but he's trying to do his best
to, like, keep it together.
I don't remember exactly everything
that happened at school that day,
but I remember we had to get picked up
through the back loop.
I don't know if it was because
of everything that was going on,
or if it was to hide
from the news cameras.
That night, I learned about my mom's truck
being found on the news channels.
The first big clue
into Brandy Hall's disappearance
was found here in this vacant land
about 4.5 miles from the fire department.
They found her pickup truck
at the bottom of this pond.
And I remember being in my aunt's bathroom
and I remember being on the phone
with my dad and him saying,
"Mommy's lost. We're gonna find her."
Like, what the hell is happening?
Somebody please come forward.
Where's my daughter? Where is she at?
Brandy Hall has been missing
since August 17, 2006.
At the time, she was 32 years old.
[podcast host] It has been 20 years
since firefighter and mother
Brandy Hall disappeared.
Nearly 20 years later, she's still
missing and there are no answers.
[Rae] My name is Detective Rae
with Palm Bay Police Department,
and I've been the lead detective
assigned to the Brandy Hall investigation
since September of 2024.
It had been 18 years
and my supervisors approached me,
knowing that I didn't grow up here
and I would have an unbiased view
of the investigation.
It definitely seemed to be a case
that got a lot of publicity.
-Two years ago today…
-It's been two and a half years since…
-Today marks three years…
-Four years ago today,
volunteer firefighter
Brandy Hall disappeared.
And over the years, Palm Bay
has definitely gotten a lot bigger,
but I think it's still considered,
you know, a small town.
A lot of people had their own opinions
about what happened to Brandy.
I felt it was important for me to meet
the people who knew and loved Brandy.
I believe it was towards the end of 2025.
I heard that there was a new detective
on the case and she came to the house.
We've never experienced that before,
so at first I thought that
it might have been some reporter
trying to sleaze their way in,
but it was so refreshing.
I knew the case needed a full review.
I discovered the last time
that Brandy was actually seen
was when she was leaving
the Malabar Volunteer Fire Department
on the night of August 17, 2006.
Brandy got to work that evening
at around 6:30 p.m.
She was not supposed to be getting
off of work until the following morning.
At that point, Brandy would have been
expected to help get the kids to school,
but she didn't show up,
so Brandy's husband, Jeff,
called her numerous times.
He called the fire department
to see if she was there.
They said she had
already left the station.
So, he called family, he called friends.
Jeff seemed concerned,
but he had a court date on August 18th
because he was facing sentencing
for marijuana cultivation charges,
so he was also trying to be
at this courthouse on time.
My mom was supposed to be there
to be a character witness for my dad.
She had an outfit and everything.
I think we even went shopping
to buy her stuff for it.
She was definitely planning
on being there.
Brandy would not have missed
doing that for Jeff.
Brandy didn't want Jeff to go to jail.
She didn't want this whole situation
of what was going on.
She didn't want any of that,
but she didn't show up.
We started thinking,
"Where is she and what happened to her?"
And at the same time
as the hearing at around noon,
a fisherman found fire gear
floating in a pond,
so they brought it
to a nearby fire station.
And they looked at it
and determined that it was Brandy Hall's.
At that point,
law enforcement got involved.
Her truck was also missing.
So, there was concern that Brandy
and her truck had ended up in the pond.
We sent divers.
Ultimately, her truck was found.
[reporter] Palm Bay police
found Brandy Hall's fire gear
and her pickup at a local pond.
But we didn't have a body.
Was this vehicle driven into
the pond intentionally by Brandy herself,
or was there some sort of foul play?
[reporter] Police do not know
what happened to her.
[suspenseful music playing]
[Rae] So that is the area where
Brandy's truck was ultimately found.
When the truck was pulled
out of the water,
what was the condition,
the way they found it?
[Rae] The condition of the vehicle
when it came out was muddy,
but it didn't have any damage
consistent with crashing.
There wasn't, like, large dents or
any evidence she may have veered off.
It looked as though the truck was
just slowly pushed into the pond.
And the gear shift was consistent
with that as well.
-Like, into neutral?
-Exactly.
Brandy wasn't in the vehicle,
but we did find a large amount of human
blood in the driver's side of the vehicle,
suggesting that someone in the vehicle
was significantly injured
or maybe even killed.
After being underwater,
for the blood to remain in the vehicle,
it would have had to have dried
before it was put underwater.
So the injury, which would have
likely been life-threatening,
took place before the truck
went into the pond.
It took about a week, but, ultimately,
we were able to confirm
that it was Brandy's DNA.
Was there any other evidence that told you
how her blood might have ended up there?
[Rae] We don't have anything that suggests
how she sustained the injury,
but there wasn't blood on the ground
that officers located.
[Chamberlain] So she couldn't have
just walked away on foot
because she would have bled on the ground.
[Rae] Exactly, yeah.
[Chamberlain] But someone could
have carefully moved her.
[Rae] Yeah, it is possible.
Was there anything else that
was missing from the truck?
She was known to carry medication
that she took on a daily basis.
She always had a firearm in her possession
and she had two cell phones.
None of those items were found
in the truck, in the pond,
or in this general area, and we
still have not recovered those items.
[Chamberlain] This is just so crazy.
Whoever walked away with that stuff
probably knows what happened to Brandy.
Exactly, because all the evidence
that we had at the time
suggested that she was met with foul play.
Investigators absolutely were looking
for someone with a motive.
Was it a coworker of hers
that had an issue with her?
Was it a friend?
Was it her husband?
It's not every day that your husband
is arrested growing marijuana.
Brandy was supposed to be
a character witness.
Was there any reason
she wanted to hurt Jeff?
What will someone do
to stay out of prison?
Will they try to silence somebody?
[Chamberlain] Obviously, given
her husband Jeff's hearing,
the timing of Brandy's disappearance
is a little suspicious.
What if there was more to their
relationship than anyone knew?
Was Jeff considered a suspect?
Jeff absolutely was considered a suspect
because he was the spouse of Brandy
and Jeff was being investigated
for marijuana cultivation.
At the time, it was alleged
that Brandy had some involvement,
which ultimately led to her being arrested
by Osceola County Sheriff's Office.
So, that caused her
to lose her job with Palm Bay Fire Rescue,
where she loved her job.
Ultimately, the charges were dropped, but
she was scrambling to financially provide,
and she did multiple things
to have an income.
Attention turns close to home.
Their marriage had tension.
Jeff was facing sentencing
literally the next day.
Maybe there was a threat,
a conversation that led to him
feeling like she was
going to screw him over.
For me, I don't think
I really had any kind of emotion
when it came to Jeff being investigated.
It was, like, investigate whoever
you need to investigate
to try to figure out what happened to her.
The day Brandy disappeared,
Jeff was sentenced to 18 months
in a Florida prison.
Before Jeff went to prison,
he was subjected to lie detectors
and several interviews,
and he passed.
But still, officers went to his house
to search the home
and looked into his phone
and his cell phone records.
And from what was documented,
he never tried to hide anything
and every statement that he gave
was verifiable with his phone records.
I just didn't see a motive.
He was facing prison time
and he absolutely loved his children,
so wanting to do anything
to her just didn't make sense.
His children would have
no mother or father.
[Kleinschnitz]
You think about Jeff as a person.
Jeff loved Brandy
and their family and their kids.
And the person that I knew,
I didn't feel there was any way.
Well, I mean, we all make bad choices
and it hurts me to know all the pain
that he had to go through.
For my dad, it was hard
to find out she was murdered
and you're going to jail
and you can't be there for your kids.
That's a lot to happen
to a person at one time.
Honestly, the police
were continuing to treat my dad
as a suspect even after he was cleared.
Even then,
there was a lot of online trolls.
They would be saying outrageous things.
It really frustrates me because it, like,
turned into, like, us not getting
information from the detectives.
So, we found out
everything through her friends.
[Chamberlain] To better understand
what happened to Brandy,
I want to know more about the events
leading up to her disappearance.
Hey, T.J.
Her friend T.J. Sherwood was with her
at the firehouse that night.
So, you served with Brandy
at the Malabar firehouse?
Yeah, it was a volunteer department.
You know,
budgets back then weren't very big, right?
The calls, the camaraderie…
We did it because we love to do it.
-Yeah.
-Right?
[Chamberlain]
How was Brandy as a teammate?
Brandy was a female going
into the fire service.
-[Chamberlain] Yeah.
-Right?
So she had to outperform most men.
She didn't take no crap from nobody.
She wasn't a pushover, but she kept
the positivity around, the joking.
But that night she was worried about
what was going to happen with her husband.
His case the next day and she, you know,
she's just like, "You know,
I don't feel right about it."
[Chamberlain]
What were you guys doing before she left?
[Sherwood] We were all just hanging out
right inside here.
We were watching a movie.
I can't remember which movie it was.
There was, like, five of us in there
and we were all talking.
-She walked out to the bay here.
-Mm-hmm.
She yelled at somebody.
She said, "Hey, I'll be back."
-Over here?
-Well, there's another door inside here.
-Oh, okay.
-[Sherwood] And she said, "I'll be back."
And she walked out the side door and…
and that was it.
We woke up the next morning,
she wasn't here
because we knew that
she had to be at court.
[Chamberlain] Yeah. Was it normal to
go do errands or just pop out like that?
[Sherwood] Yeah, it was the norm for her.
We could come and go as
we pleased as long as our lieutenant knew.
Based on what you know of who she is,
whenever you hear that
she doesn't show up for court
and then her truck being found,
what's going through your mind?
[Sherwood smacks lips] At that time,
everything's just going through my head
and then I started hearing rumors.
Like what? Tell me about the rumors.
I started hearing rumors
about Randall Richmond.
That Brandy was having an affair with him.
[reporter] There was another man.
Police say Hall was having an affair
with former Palm Bay Fire Captain
Randall Richmond.
Randall Richmond was the fire captain
of the Palm Bay Fire Department
where Brandy worked for years
before she lost her job.
Randall seemed to be a nice guy, you know?
He was really into his family and he was
good to the guys at the fire department.
But Brandy and Randall
were having an affair.
I think it started out being
just maybe exciting, something new.
And then she ended up falling in love
with him, and I believe he loved her too.
I don't believe that Brandy
ever told Jeff about her affair.
I just know how much Jeff loved Brandy,
and Brandy would never
intentionally hurt anyone.
Also, Jeff and Randall
and their families were friends.
According to Jeff,
they were great friends.
Jeff was expecting Randall
to also be at his sentencing hearing
to be a character witness,
and Randall ultimately decided not to go.
On the morning of August 18, 2006,
Randall called my dad crying,
saying that he couldn't do it anymore.
The reason he gave my dad was
it had something to do with his wife.
Brandy didn't show up to court
when she was expected to show up
and Randall didn't show up.
That is absolutely suspicious.
[tense music playing]
Randall was interviewed by investigators
about the evening of August 17th.
During the interview, Randall
claimed that he hadn't seen Brandy,
he hadn't spoken to her,
and he denied that there was
an intimate relationship between them.
He claimed to be at work
that entire evening
and only left the station
during one call for service,
a house that was on fire on that evening.
And investigators did confirm his alibi.
The other firefighters that were there,
they all said,
"No, we didn't hear him
leave the fire station."
But when Randall's and Brandy's
phone records were obtained,
it was obvious to investigators
that the amount of communication they had
was significantly more
than what he was leading to.
Him and Brandy spoke
sometimes all day long,
several messages back and forth,
several phone calls back and forth.
It turned out
she was communicating with him
as she was driving out
of the fire department at 22:50,
which is 10:50 p.m.,
and the last phone call that she made
that evening was at 11:06 with Randall.
We definitely needed to figure out
why he was speaking to her that night,
but also why he didn't
tell the truth about it.
A few days after,
Randall did have a second interview.
He actually approached law enforcement
and said, "I need to tell you everything."
[Richmond] I know I lied.
I walked in there and told them I lied.
I told the guys flat out, look guys…
what I told you on Friday, I lied about.
He admitted to the affair and the fact
that they did speak on that night.
[Richmond] I talked to her…
I don't know how many times that evening.
Boy, I can't remember.
[Rae] But he claimed that she had
intentions of actually running away.
[officer]
And she tells you that she's leaving?
[Richmond] Yeah, I'm leaving.
Where are you going? What are you doing?
She wasn't real clear about it, you know.
He claimed that Brandy was going
to reach back out to him
by 10 o'clock in the morning on Sunday.
[Richmond] When Sunday rolls around…
and all of this stuff's in the news…
and there hasn't been a page…
that she told me she'd page me…
I'm thinking, well, what
in the hell has happened?
[officer] I know there was a phone call
between you and Jeff…
about you coming over to testify for him.
-[Richmond] Yeah, there was.
-[officer] Tell me about that.
[Richmond] I said, "You gotta
remember the position I'm in…
as a public service employee…
and a captain in the fire department.
I just can't do it.
I don't think it's going to look good.
I don't think it's going
to do my career any good."
[Chamberlain] Randall did lie
to the police initially.
But if he was having
an affair with Brandy,
the calls don't necessarily mean
he met up with her,
and multiple people did see him
at the firehouse that night.
Okay, so this is interesting.
It says there was a tip
that a truck matching
the description of Brandy's
was spotted by the Home Depot.
Same make, same decals, same color.
This is around ten minutes
after she left the Malabar fire station.
They're a few miles apart, so
it's definitely possible that it was her.
There was an officer at the time
who was employed
with Palm Bay Police Department,
Officer Jasmine Smith.
[Rae] On the evening of the 17th,
she was cutting through
the Home Depot parking lot
to get to Walmart
and she saw a vehicle
that matched Brandy's truck
parked in the garden section
of Home Depot.
She could see that somebody
was in the driver's seat,
but she couldn't necessarily
make out a description,
male, female, race, anything like that.
This was about ten minutes
after Brandy was seen
leaving the-- the fire department.
She didn't know Brandy,
and at the time, there wasn't anything
suspicious about this truck,
but she also saw a captain's truck
of the Palm Bay Fire Department
parked nearby.
Those vehicles are assigned
to the captain that is on duty,
which was Randall,
but there was no call for service there.
She thought it was odd,
so she called it in.
She did not finish the report because
she had to respond to a call for service.
[sirens wailing]
But investigators ultimately
approached Officer Smith
to obtain a statement
and obtained video footage from
the time when she observed the truck.
And you can see Brandy's vehicle
and then shortly after,
you can see the patrol vehicle.
Brandy's truck was easily identifiable.
It was large, it was lifted, it was green.
There was a lot of stickers on it.
Now, did we see Brandy?
No, but it's definitely significant
because it's a great meetup point,
and I've done recent interviews
and a current employee
with Palm Bay Fire Department
said there's a private door
to the station that Randall
would have had access to.
It's absolutely possible he could
have left without being seen or heard.
But I think the most significant part
about that location is
right on the other side of San Filippo,
just a little bit a ways down,
was where her truck was found.
[officer]
I'm gonna ask you a question, bud.
[Richmond] Yes, sir.
-[officer] Did you kill Brandy?
-[Richmond] No, sir. I did not.
I never left the station.
Why are you guys…
Why are you still pointing
the barrel at me like you just said?
[officer] You talked to her
on average 52 times a day!
And you never called her again.
[Chamberlain] Was there anything else
people at the firehouse were saying
when it came to Brandy and Randall?
I started hearing rumors
about Randall's wife.
Comments that were made
to Brandy by his wife in public.
Did Brandy tell you about those comments
that were made in public?
She just said that she saw Randall's wife
at Grant Seafood Festival,
and Randall's wife said,
"If I catch you with my husband again,
I will kill you."
[Rae] Investigators did know about
the Grant Seafood Festival altercation
that took place five months
before her truck was found.
According to witness statements,
there was an aggressive confrontation.
Randall's wife Anne was interviewed
shortly after Brandy disappeared.
Anne was asked where she was
during the time that Brandy disappeared
and she did say that she was at work
as a nurse from 3:00 to 11:00 p.m.
Investigators at the time felt
that she had an alibi,
but they did obtain a search warrant
for the Richmond family vehicles
at the time.
It turned out one vehicle was sold shortly
after Brandy disappeared.
Investigators attempted to try
to locate this vehicle,
but it was never found.
So, there was
no indisputable physical evidence.
Before my mom went missing, Randall and
his family were a big part of our lives.
We did almost everything
with the Richmonds.
We would go on all our trips with them.
They were always around
whether it was at the shop
or our house, like birthday parties,
all the things.
I remember Randall being nice.
Yes, they were having an affair,
but Randall was my mom's best friend.
Um, and then finding out that he lied,
I do think that it was,
like, a major betrayal.
My family, we haven't spoken
to any of them in 20 years.
-[podcaster] Randall Richmond.
-She leaned on him emotionally.
Randall lied about speaking to her.
Investigators have been watching him
because his story bends and twists.
I don't know why they can't rule us out.
I really don't. Um…
Neither one of us were anywhere around.
Neither one of us had anything
to do with it.
[Rae] When I took over this investigation,
I thought sometimes
new eyes bring new ideas.
So, when I was listening to the interview
with Randall's wife,
my first question was, "Can we verify
this alibi with any work records?"
I was actually able
to obtain her employment records,
which contradicted the statement
that she gave investigators.
She said that she was at work as a nurse
between 3:00 and 11:00 p.m.,
but she worked between 9:00 and 3:00 p.m.
What does that mean to see
that she's not working
the night of the 17th?
It means that there's a gap
that we do not know where she was.
And now we do have new evidence
that's never been revealed before.
So, here we have our evidence lot
where we store vehicles.
We do have a new piece of evidence related
to Brandy's case.
We definitely knew that the Richmonds
owned a truck that hadn't been searched.
This is the truck the Richmonds sold
right after she went missing, right?
Yeah.
Was it a coincidence that it was sold
or was it directly involved
with her disappearance?
So, for many years we have always wondered
where this truck was, and was it involved?
And we actually recently were able
to locate the vehicle
and we do have it in our custody.
So this truck was owned by the Richmonds
during the time of 2006.
It made its way to a tow yard,
but before it got
to the tow yard,
it was abandoned on a piece of property.
[Chamberlain] I see some
evidence markers over there.
Is this something that you guys have
been using advanced technologies on?
[Rae] Yeah, absolutely.
We have a lot more available to us
than we did in 2006,
so we're using new advancements
in technology to process this vehicle,
but at this time we cannot discuss
what we found.
[Chamberlain] What does all of this mean?
[Rae] For me, it means that I'm going
in the right direction.
[Chamberlain] Taylor wants to listen
to her interview
that she did with police at ten years old.
She's hoping it might jog some memories.
She and Detective Rae have developed
a close bond,
so she's sharing it with her
for the first time.
[officer] We are interviewing Taylor.
And you're how old?
-[young Hall] Ten.
-[officer] Ten. And what grade are you in?
-[young Hall] Fifth.
-[officer] Fifth grade, okay.
Now, the reason why we're here
is to talk about your mom
and where she might be, okay?
[young Hall] Yeah.
[officer] I'm gonna ask you
do you know of anything
that your mom was worried about?
[young Hall] Um, about my dad
going to jail and everything…
and her going to jail.
[officer] So, she was mostly
worried about going to jail…
and your dad going to jail?
-Yeah.
-Okay. The last time you saw your mom…
tell me about that.
[young Hall]
I was finishing up my homework…
and then she came in and said, "I love you
and I'll see you in the morning."
And then she left.
[officer] And where was she going?
-[young Hall] To the fire station.
-[officer] The fire station.
Did she have anything
with her when she left?
[young Hall] She had her medicine bag
that she always has with her.
[officer] And any jewelry?
Was she wearing any jewelry?
[young Hall] She's wearing two necklaces.
One's a fish and one's a little
heart that has a poem inside
that I gave to her for Mother's Day.
-[officer] Okay.
-[young Hall] And it has an angel on it.
And then she had her two toe rings,
her ankle bracelet, and her
college ring and wedding ring.
[officer] Wow! You know everything
that your mom wears.
[young Hall] And her earrings.
[officer]
What kind of earrings did she have in?
[young Hall] She has a fish earring in.
[officer]
Okay, and what else did she have on?
[young Hall]
She had her two angels in her pocket.
-[officer] What color are the two angels?
-[young Hall] Gold.
[officer] Gold.
Are they on a chain or anything? Or just…
[young Hall] No, just two little angels
that she keeps in her pocket for safety.
-[officer] Okay.
-[young Hall] And good luck.
[officer]
Okay. All right. I think that might be it.
[Rae] So, I think there's a lot
Taylor had to share
that I don't think at ten years old
I could recall.
And all the details that you were able
to remember then,
like, maybe you don't remember
all those things now.
-Yeah.
-[Chamberlain] So, how does it feel?
[Hall]
It is very eye-opening to hear that stuff.
I'm spitting out what she was wearing down
to, like, the details, like, I was smart.
I did know all these things.
I was very observant.
So it's hard now to be like, "Okay,
well, I don't have those memories now
because, like, the trauma,
like, forced me to block it out."
-I have no memory of the angels.
-Mm-hmm.
And to hear myself say,
like, she carried them for safety,
like, I wouldn't just come up with that.
-She obviously told me that.
-[Chamberlain] Right.
So, like, to hear that she carried them
with safety
and she had them that night
and she was murdered, just kind of, like…
like, kind of took my breath away,
I guess you could say in a way.
Yeah, unfortunately,
we've never found those angels,
so… Yeah, a missing piece for sure.
One of the things that I feel like is…
is a real possibility
is the ability for people
on the Internet to find
some of these items.
Yeah. The community can definitely help
a lot with this case.
Brandy did own a firearm.
She had a bag in her truck.
We still have not found that either.
People don't keep secrets forever,
so I definitely believe
that there are other people
in the community that…
that have information.
And don't be shy or scared
that I know the information already,
you know,
I'd rather hear it 20 million times
than risk not hearing it once.
[video call ringing]
-Hey, Stephanie.
-Hi.
I have updates.
Jeff has been ruled out,
but it turns out that Randall
was the last person to speak with Brandy
before she went missing.
[Harlowe] I saw that a police officer
who was driving around
sees a fire chief truck parked to the side
of the Home Depot where they keep,
like, their trees and plants,
and she sees a truck
that resembles Brandy Hall's truck
the night of her disappearance,
but everyone gave him an alibi.
Right, but the new detective on the case
confirmed that he might have been able
to slip out, and Randall's wife knew
about the affair.
Because when I was talking to
T.J. Sherwood, which is Brandy's friend,
he's told me about this incident
at the Grant Seafood Festival,
and his quote is
that Anne Marie said to Brandy,
"If I catch you with my husband,
I will kill you."
[gasps]
And this happened five months
before Brandy went missing.
And Randall's wife's alibi…
It was reported that she worked
from 3:00 to 11:00 p.m. on the 17th.
The new detective has said
that's not accurate.
That's not true.
Detective Rae couldn't find
that it had ever been verified.
And the additional piece of new evidence,
they have a truck
that previously belonged
to the Richmond family.
All they would say is that they
have some evidence they're testing
to see if it might be connected
to Brandy's disappearance.
Detective Rae cannot say much
because the case is still active,
but honestly,
there's so many possibilities.
[Hall]
I was ten years old when it happened.
And this is really hard for me
because it brings up all the memories
and all the hurt.
But I'm willing to do that if it's going
to be able to close my mom's case.
Tell me about your dad. How's he doing
with everything that's going on?
He's doing well. Um…
I mean, he's proud of me for being able
to, like, be strong enough
to, like, stand up and speak,
but it's also very difficult
for him because I do know
that the more I do this,
the more I remind him of my mom.
What is your call to action to the public,
to anyone that's watching?
I think that we just need people
to stop protecting each other.
It's been 20 years and I need
the opportunity to actually grieve
and you can't grieve someone
if you don't know what happened to them.
Even if, like, her body isn't found,
if there's, like, a confession,
that's still some type of closure
so that we can remember her
for who she was
and not this horrible thing
that happened to her.
[Chamberlain] Randall and Anne Marie
divorced in 2013.
Law enforcement says
they are still considered suspects,
although there's not probable cause
to arrest either of them.
For Brandy's family and friends, the wait
to find her killer is excruciating.
My hope is that the new evidence
and the new eyes on this investigation
are able to uncover
who took Brandy from her family.
If you have any new information
about Brandy's case,
please contact law enforcement directly.
For further discussion about the case,
visit the Somebody Knows Something Channel
on abcnews.com.
[person] There were many men that were
kind of circling around Amy.
He was hiding a very dark secret.
His journals,
they were extremely disturbing.
This ripped our family apart.
[Chamberlain] You found that in here?
You know, killers usually keep
-a piece of something.
-Right.