Rose and Maloney (2002) s02e03 Episode Script

Katie Phelan: Part 1

1
[smooth instrumental music]
- Okay, everyone can you listen?
Mary Betterson just got
released by the court of appeal.
Well done, Joyce.
[clapping]
- They always give her the cushy
ones.
- Nice one, Joyce.
- Our third cop death
success in three months.
That's the good news.
- What's the bad news.
- Well, the government just
ordered a judicial inquiry
and a review of all cases
where a parent was convicted
on the evidence of an expert
witness.
- All of them?
How many is that?
- 73.
I make that 12 cases per team.
The files are being
downloaded to your servers now
and I'm going to need
a preliminary overview
by the end of next week.
- Wendy?
You're remembering I had a
holiday booked?
- Did you?
- Where are you going?
- I hadn't decided.
- Going with anyone?
- What is this?
- I'm sorry, I'm just asking.
You gonna sulk all day?
- I'm gonna sulk all day, yeah.
Oh, bloody hell.
It's 12 bloody cases.
Bloody, sodding, buggering hell.
- You gonna be swearing all day?
- Yeah, I'm going to swear all
day.
You got a problem with that,
Maloney?
- No, no, no, I love
it, when you talk dirty.
[phone rings]
- First case.
What's her name?
[dramatic music]
- Katie Phelan, age 19.
[clattering]
She's serving life in HMP
Chatom.
- [Rose] What did she do?
- [Maloney] Three years
ago she was working
as part-time nanny for Marsha
Campese,
the teacher at her school.
Katie helped her with a baby
and did household chores to
give Mrs. Campese a break.
- Katie?
- [Rose] And the husband?
- [Maloney] Bill Campese,
an investment analyst.
His statement says that on
the 21st of April, 2001,
he left work early, stopped
off at the pub to meet friends.
Got home at about seven.
[dramatic music]
- Please help him, he's my baby.
Please help my baby.
Oh God, please help my baby!
[cries]
- [Man] Come on, breathe,
breathe, breathe.
- [Woman] Any pulse?
- Please.
- Why are you stopping!
- No, no, no, no! [Sobbing]
No, no, no!
- Just take her downstairs,
please.
- What did you do, Katie?
Katie?
What did you do?
[crying]
[water babbling]
- [Maloney] The post-mortem
suggested suffocation.
Katie Phelan's conviction
was secured in under 10 days.
[sombre instrumental music]
- It's all right.
We'll be all right.
- I can't remember his face.
- I know, I know.
Don't worry, we will.
We will.
[dark eerie music]
[door clattering]
- [Maloney] How long have
you been here, Katie?
- [Katie] Eight months.
- [Maloney] And before that?
- Stay country for a while.
Out in MI security.
You have custody of get along.
- They've moved you about.
- Nobody likes me.
[nose sniffles]
- We need to ask you
some questions, Katie,
so we can assess the
safety of your conviction.
I'm sure you've heard that
the government has ordered
a review of certain cases
involving the deaths of babies.
- Can you get me out of here?
- Well, it doesn't work like
that, Katie.
We'll look at your case
to see if the evidence
was considered correctly as part
of over
- I need to get out.
They do things.
Ignore me.
Punch me on the stairs,
put chewing gum in my hair,
put tampons in my bed.
Do you know what that's like?
- Did you tell anyone about
this?
- Don't be stupid!
I didn't kill that baby, that's
all.
There was quite a lot of
evidence against you, Katie,
and your family background.
- That's nothing to do with it!
- All your brothers were
taken into care, I understand.
- You're like the rest of the
puffs get to come in here,
all smiling and poor thing and
how did you turn out so bad?
Why don't you both just piss
off!
- Okay, Katie.
I want to go over some of your
memories
so that we can compare them
with what you said at your
trial, okay.
- I was looking after
Will for Mrs. Campese.
I was doing her a favour.
He just died.
What do you want me to say?
- Just try.
What can it hurt?
Yeah.
We fed the baby every day, same
as usual.
And the Marsha went to do her
marking.
I changed will and put him in
his cot.
Will was always quiet for a
long time after we fed him
no matter how many times he
burped.
But that day
he just stopped.
He just stopped doing it.
[cries]
[sombre instrumental music]
He just stopped.
- She did it.
Let's move on.
- Maybe.
- You can't go into
bat for everyone, Rose.
Katie has a violent family
background.
There's forensic evidence,
pathology
and the mother's witness
statement.
- And she's tried to
commit suicide three times
since she was convicted.
She's exhausted, isolated,
disorientated.
- People aren't too keen on baby
killers.
- We're just trying to
do the assessment, okay.
- What's up?
- Need a holiday.
- Want to come over for lunch on
Sunday?
- Pardon?
- Erm, come for lunch.
I usually cook something.
- Who for?
- Well, whoever wants to come.
You doing anything?
- I dunno I'll
I'll check.
Let's go over what she said
again.
[sighs]
Mrs. Campese was always nice to
me.
[dark music]
- [Katie] The rest of my
teachers
were just stupid tossers, you
know?
But Mrs. Campese was all right.
- Come on.
[door clatters]
You're not going to pass like
this, Katie.
Don't you mind?
Go on, say something in English,
Katie.
All right, explain to
me why you're not coming
to school anymore.
Is your mom's still away?
- My Mom's not coming back.
I have to look after my
brothers.
[thuds]
- Would it make any difference
if I give you a demerit?
[guffaws]
Well, sod it.
Did you know I had a baby?
- Yeah.
- Hm, a boy.
His name's Will.
- Will?
- Hmm.
Bit of a poncy name, innit?
- Yeah, thanks Katie.
He's named after his
Anyway, I am, I had an idea
about you.
[steps clattering]
Do you want to hear it?
I paid her three pound 50 an
hour
and coached her in GCSE double
science.
She came round three days a week
at tea time and helped
me put the baby to bed.
- And she was good at it?
- Yeah, she was fine.
Seemed fine.
- Will loved her.
He really smiled for her.
- And Marsha always seemed so
happier
when Katie was here.
I'd always hear them
laughing in the kitchen.
Well, we got it wrong.
- It's very good of you to
agree to talk about this.
- We don't hate her, you know.
Bill makes me keep the photos
out.
[steps clattering]
That's the last one we took.
- It's lovely.
Blonde hair?
- Yeah, yeah.
He was born with it.
Everybody thought it was really
cute,
this blonde Italian,
but Bill's mum was fair too.
- Oh, sorry, do you mind?
- Oh no, that's years old.
We had to borrow babies then.
That's my friend's boy.
- Right.
- We had problems conceiving.
So you always think these
things will just swing your way
but they don't listen
and the years roll by.
And then anyway out of
the blue, we got Will
and I think we felt lucky.
- It's my fault.
I brought Katie into this house.
I just, I thought I was helping
her.
Why are you doing this?
Don't you know what the
scientist at the trial
said she did to my baby?
- Well, I'm sure you've
heard, there's been unease
about the use of expert
witnesses
in some cases of infanticide.
- Oh, you wouldn't expect
me to care about that?
- No.
- She killed my son.
I thought about it so often.
[foreboding music]
If only I hadn't fallen asleep.
Katie?
Katie?
Where are you?
[foreboding music]
Katie, what are you doing?
- He's gone blue.
[door clatters]
- [Maloney] It's sad about the
kid.
- Yeah.
I want to check the
expert witness evidence.
Who was it?
- Why?
The mother saw her do it.
- Katie said the baby was
dead when she found him.
Well, she would wouldn't she.
This is a non-starter.
We should move on.
- Marquis.
Oh, for God's sake, Dr. Diane
Marquis.
She's giving evidence at the
judicial inquiry this week.
- Rose.
- Not yet.
- We've got 11 other cases.
- Marquis is in the frame.
She's been investigated in at
least three more convictions
which turned on her evidence.
I just want to speak to her.
- Why?
- She's a founding member of the
club.
- What club?
- The women who don't
like other women club.
Katie Phelan versus Dr. Diane
Marquis.
MD, PhD., FRS.
You call that a fair fight?
[dramatic music]
- The problem with the
pathology of infant death
is that the signs of violence
and trauma can be very small.
It takes a very high degree
of skill and experience
to distinguish between cot death
and a deliberately induced
injury.
- And you would you consider
yourself
to have that skill and
experience?
- Yes, I would walk.
- And what conclusion has
your experience led you to?
- That our culture is fatally
slanted
towards the view that women
are unlikely to kill children.
And although many instances
of infant death accidental,
a significant proportion of them
are not.
[woman cries]
They are murder.
- I'm sorry for the
disturbance Dr. Marquis.
Would you please continue?
- In my opinion, this current
hysteria
is an insult to the medical
profession.
We're being judged by
people who know nothing
of the science and have no
expertise
other than in media
manipulation.
- You believe that you have been
correct
in all the cases where
you have given evidence?
- Yes, I have total
confidence in my own abilities
and those of my colleagues.
This is a witch hunt.
I intend to defend my
integrity and my profession.
[low chattering]
You thank you for your time, bye
bye.
- Dr. Marquis, I'm Rose
Linden from the CJRA.
I've tried to ring your
office several times and
- I'm sure you'll understand
that I'm not available
for interview by the CJRA.
I'm involved with the judicial
review.
- Right.
I understand you are the expert
witness
in the Katy Phelan case.
- I featured in a number of
trials, yes.
Good afternoon.
- Featured?
- Yes.
Is that case part of the review?
She was the nanny, not the
parent.
- We're just in the initial
stages.
- Well, you're wasting your
time.
Yes, I remember her now.
Funny looking scrap.
Couldn't have been clearer.
She shook the baby several
times and then smothered it.
- You can tell that for sure?
For certain?
- Yes.
- I'm told the pathology reports
were held at your office.
- Well, they might've been,
although they'd probably
filed somewhere else by now
or even thrown away.
- Really?
- Well, I've quite liked to see
them.
- Look, you're barking up the
wrong tree.
The girl was a walking time
bomb.
It was very unfortunate.
Good afternoon, Ms. Linden.
[dark music]
[yelling]
- Mr. Phelan, I'm Mr.
Maloney from the CJRA.
We spoke on the phone.
- That's right, come on in.
You gonna get my kid out of
there?
- We go into these things very
carefully,
but Katie's story just doesn't
add up.
Not when he puts it against the
evidence.
- Well, that's shite.
Nobody stood up for her that
day.
It's just about who you believe,
isn't it?
Eh?
Somebody for a year for
a bunch of posh bastards.
- I read the psychiatric reports
that were presented at the
trial.
- What a piss.
- Katie had a lot of
responsibility.
Two young brothers to look
after.
- Aye, so?
- I understand your
wife had been sectioned
under the Mental Health Act at
the time.
- The children had a few
problems with Mrs.Phelan.
- She battered them.
She's gone now.
- How are the boys coping?
- Lost them too.
Social took them.
Not enough of a family
atmosphere.
- I'm sorry.
- See, that's why I
need my wee lassie back.
That's why I need her back, Mr.
Maloney,
so we can have a family
atmosphere.
- Mr. Phelan and I have to ask
this,
did Katie ever hit or harm your
sons?
- She never!
[low moody music]
She looked after them.
After their mother went, you
know, she did everything.
She was good with them.
She was always taking him to
the doctors when they were ill.
She knew all about all the
illnesses.
Those boys will never
say that she hurt them.
Katie loves her brothers.
There's a lot of illness in
these flats.
- Okay, we write it up.
We reject it.
A child died, Rose,
there's no comfort in it.
- No.
Oh shit, here she comes.
- How you doing?
- Yes, fine, very good.
- I need recommendations.
How many have you done?
- Erm,
one.
- Well, what is this?
A go slow?
- Perish, the thought Wendy.
- I need those reports now.
This review is going to change
the law
and we're going to take the
credit for it
if it costs me my last breath.
I want the three cases
written up by tomorrow
or your holiday gets deferred
into hell freezes over
territory, okay.
[door slams]
- We need to tell Katie
Phelan she's buggered.
- Yeah.
- Will you do it?
[sombre instrumental music]
- No, no, listen to me,
you have to believe me!
Please, I didn't do it, I'm
innocent!
Please don't do this to me!
I didn't do this, I didn't do
it!
[baby cries]
[door knocks]
- Hello.
- Oh.
I was looking for Mrs. Campese.
- Yeah, she's here, Marsha?
- Hello.
Look, I'm sorry to call on a
Sunday
but I thought you'd like to
know that we're not proceeding
with a re-investigation
of your son's death.
I felt bad about us coming
around and asking questions.
It seemed insensitive.
Anyway.
- It's erm
It's Rose, isn't it?
- Bill!
Do you want a croissant?
- Yeah.
- Davina's my lucky mascot.
Came up trumps at 43, didn't
you?
- Sure did.
- I'm going to be godmother.
Davi only lives the road.
It's going to be great.
Congratulations.
- [Both] Thank you.
[laughs]
- Hi, how's baby?
- Kicking like buggery.
You've got a visitor.
- Hello.
- Hi.
- They're not going on with
Katie.
- Right.
Yeah.
That's good.
That's good!
- Some people keep rooms
the same, don't they?
- I don't know, really.
- Well, I know he's not here.
We, we buried him in my family
plot.
I like to think he's with
Oh, I know that sounds a bit
bonkers.
- No, of course not.
- I go up there sometimes.
Bill finds it hard.
So I don't know what to do with
this room.
[sombre instrumental music]
- Well, perhaps if you,
ever have another.
- Oh I don't think we
could go there again.
I couldn't anyway.
I don't know why we stay
in this house, really.
But Bill won't move,
so I have an empty room.
- Yes, I'm sorry.
What can you do?
- Thanks for coming.
I think they appreciated it.
- It's no problem.
They're
very strong people.
- Don't be deceived.
After Will died, I went
over and made dinner
almost every night for months.
Just to make sure Marsha ate
something.
She never got back to work.
I think it tore them apart.
To lose a second baby.
- Second baby?
- Oh shit, my mouth.
They had a baby when
they were first married.
He,
he died.
They didn't like to talk about
it.
He was called William too.
I think it's a Catholic thing.
They keep a photo of him in the
lounge.
- Yeah, yes, I saw that.
- I erm, I shouldn't have
mentioned it.
- I won't say anything.
- Okay.
I know she likes you.
I'll see you around.
- Yeah.
[steps clattering]
[door knocks]
[door clatters]
[children yelling]
- Rose, you came!
- Yeah sorry, I forgot to ring.
- No, it's no problem.
I invite some other people,
but it's no problem.
Darren, get off the
And leave the fish alone,
Darren.
- [Darren] Hair hanging down.
- Well, just, just leave it.
We're playing surgical strike.
- So
Who are all these children?
- Well, let me see, we got
nephews.
Marianne and Marianne, my two
nieces.
My sisters had to be
a rock about the name.
And I don't know who the hell
that is.
You, yes you, what's your name?
- Max.
- Max.
Come on in and have some lunch.
We're having chicken nuggets,
chips,
ice cream and chocolate cake,
although not necessarily in that
order.
- No, it's okay, thanks.
Listen, I went around to
the Campese's this morning
and their friend told me
that they had another baby
who died a few years ago.
- Rose, it's Sunday, we'll
talk about this tomorrow.
- They kept it quiet.
Why would they do that?
- Well, because people like you
would come picking them apart.
Come in and have some lunch,
come on.
[children yelling and stomping]
- No, thanks anyway.
I'll see you tomorrow.
- Uncle, Max has weed himself.
- Have you, Max?
Nevermind.
[door clatters]
[printer clatters]
- That's for me.
- It's a death certificate
for William Campese.
Died 23rd of November, 1994.
- Yeah, what's the cause of
death?
- We're off this one now, Rose.
- Let me see it.
Cot death.
- Well, they were unlucky.
Really, really unlucky.
- They should have told us.
- Does it never occurred
to you that people
like to keep parts of their
lives private?
I'da thought you would've
understood that.
- See if you can find that
doctor.
[papers shuffling]
You can say you were just
obeying orders, Maloney.
Okay.
- And where are you going?
- She driving you mad?
[groans]
- Can I come and work
with you, please Joyce.
- Anytime, Maloney.
I'd appreciate you.
- It's a beautiful office.
- Thank you.
- I'm sorry we got off on
the wrong foot the other day.
I'm famously rude, I'm afraid.
- Right.
I'm just rude.
- How can I help?
I'd still like to see
the pathology reports
on the Campese case.
- Why?
- Well, I've discovered that
Mrs. Campese
had a previous cot death
a number of years ago.
Never mentioned at the trial.
- But this wasn't cot death.
The child had blood in his
lungs,
abrasions around the mouth
and a broken rib as I recall.
Why don't you lay out your
worries?
- I've read that sometimes the
mother
passes on a genetic deficiency.
- Yes, yes, it's a fashionable
theory
but the science is very new
and certainly wasn't
current when that baby died.
So much is uncertain about
infant death.
That's why you need an expert to
interpret
to a lay person like you.
- Des your book sell well?
- Oh, you are rude, aren't you.
- People say that.
- Look, I understand it's
reasonable from the outside
to think that maybe a genetic
deficiency
killed that baby but it
just didn't happen that way.
- Could you check for the
reports one more time?
- Yes, of course and I'll let
you know.
I think you were right about
this.
You check for a pattern of early
deaths
on the matriarchal side.
That's the genetic clue,
but you won't find it.
Of course, the other
possibility springs to mind.
- Which is?
- One cot death is tragic two,
well, you'd be looking at the
mother
if it wasn't for the
dysfunctional nanny.
I'm just the appliance of
science.
I can't help it if people don't
like me.
- No.
Thanks.
[door clatters]
[dramatic music]
[shredder whirring]
- Diane, you'll miss the Royal
Society for lunch, remember?
- Oh shit, yes.
Erm
I'd better go.
Stick that in the shredder, will
you,
I've got to go and get changed.
- Are you sure?
- Just do it, Colin.
[dramatic music]
- Mrs. Campese.
I think I remember her, yes.
She left the practise
maybe nine years ago.
- In 1994, after she lost her
baby.
- And you were her doctor
when the baby died?
- What's this all about?
- What was her mental state?
- She was upset obviously, as I
remember.
- I mean, before the baby died.
- Right.
I don't know you Miss Linden
and you certainly don't
have a right to ask me
about a former patient's medical
history.
- Yes, I'm sorry, my
- As far as I remember,
Mrs. Campese was in
excellent mental health
before and after her child was
born.
- Mrs. Campese lost another
baby about three years ago.
- Pardon?
- The nanny was convicted of
murder.
- I see.
As I say, I didn't know her that
well,
but I don't think she showed any
signs
of being a danger to her child.
- Thank you
- Actually, I'm very glad
to hear you say that doctor.
Thank you.
- Thank you, you've been a great
help.
[keyboard clicking]
- Trish, can you go in the
cupboard
see if you can find my
case notebook for 1994.
God knows if it's there.
Yup.
[tyres crunching]
[doors clattering]
- What are we doing here, Rose?
- Conducting a genetic
experiment.
It's okay, you can go.
I'll find my own way back.
- Oh, stop it.
- What?
- The martyr act.
Really pissing me off.
- One last throw Maloney.
Let's just try and find out what
happened.
Sod Wendy, sod the review,
let's just get a result here.
- Okay.
Rose!
- Will Campese.
William Campese.
I think it's so sad that
they gave them the same name.
- Well, there are no more
Campese's here.
No more babies, just these two.
Can we go now?
- Campese isn't her maiden name.
It's the mother's side
that passes the DNA.
We are looking for Moffat
or Gillespie or Titmus.
- Bloody funny kind of genetic
experiment.
- Yeah, well, nobody really
understands how it works.
You can only go on probability
and statistics and then you
search
Bingo.
- Moffat.
- Yeah.
[phone rings]
See if we can find anymore.
- Hello.
When?
[sombre music]
[machine beeping]
- Some bastard gave her drugs
so she could top herself.
Jesus Christ, they gave her the
stuff.
- How is she?
- They don't know.
Wasn't messing about.
She shoulda been dead.
She wanted to be dead. [Cries]
Christ.
She said what she did.
- She what?
- What she did.
- Dear Dad, it's so horrible
here I'm not going on.
I want to tell you what
I did and how I'm sorry.
- [Katie] I did put things
in the boys cough medicine,
antifreeze and that stuff
for washing windscreens.
I knew it would make them sick
so I could go to the doctor
cause he was always nice to me.
- I don't know why I did
it and I'm sorry, Dad,
but I never hurt Will,
I never touched him.
I'll swear it in heaven to God.
He'll believe me.
I never, never touched him.
[sombre music]
[beeping]
- You got to do something about
this.
Can't you see?
You've got to do something.
[dramatic music]
- Can I help?
- Is Miss Linden here?
- Who should I say
- I'm Colin Davis, Diane
Marquis's personal assistant.
- Ah.
- I'm not sure if be here.
- It's too late, Colin.
She'll find you.
- I've been studying forensic
law.
Helped Diane's in the
office with their admin,
take notes, stuff like that.
It's been an honour really, you
know,
to work for her.
- Tell us the problem, Colin.
- She must know it's wrong to
ask me
to shred entire pathology
report,
knowing there's a
judicial review going up.
- Who was the report on?
- Will Campese.
- So I got a transcript
of the trial and read it
to find out why and
I just don't understand.
- Spit it out, Colin.
You're a clever lad.
You wouldn't be here if
there wasn't a problem.
- The evidence was all based
on the physical trauma.
I mean, even I know the
paramedics could have injured
him
during CPR, but it's,
it's like she just ignored
all the other stuff.
Just didn't notice it.
- What other stuff?
- Lab reports, bacterial
screen, toxicology,
there was loads of it but
she just never mentioned
any of it at trial.
- Do you read the lab reports?
Colin?
- The baby had a significant
streptococcal infection
in his throat and lungs when he
died.
- Bacterial infection.
- Yes, a sore throat, basically.
That's an indicator of cot death
but she just went with
the physical trauma.
It's like she just read
the first three pages
and made her mind up.
I mean,
her evidence was wrong.
- So you're worried?
- Yes.
I mean, she has so many cases
I think she just gets careless.
- But there is a problem
with all this Colin.
I mean you shredded the
document, didn't you?
[briefcase clattering]
- Guess I'm looking for another
job.
- So is your boss.
- I like my birds.
They always come in the
afternoon.
I can watch them and I can
watch them for a long time.
Why have you come, Rose?
- I came to tell you that Katie
Phelan
tried to commit suicide
in prison this week.
- Is she all right?
- Yes.
But it was serious.
- That's, that's so sad.
- Yes.
- You know, the funny
thing is I still miss her.
We had some fun together,
she made me laugh.
- I don't think she
killed your baby, Marsha.
Katie left a note.
She was absolutely in earnest.
If they hadn't found
her, she would have died.
She had no reason left to lie.
- Then explained to me what I
saw, Rose,
because I'd really like to
understand.
- I found that when people
remember things
it always seems very clear at
first
but when you have a chance
to finally stand back
you can understand that there
are always
other ways of seeing things.
- Katie, what are you doing?
- He's gone blue!
- [Rose] I think he
got his injuries later.
He was already dead.
- Please help my baby!
Oh God, please help my baby!
No, I don't understand how
that can be, how it happened.
- Marsha, why did you lie to
me about your first child?
Davina told me that you
lost a baby before Will.
- Oh, she shouldn't have done
that.
- Why on earth didn't you tell
me?
- Because it was none of your
business.
Bill and I,
well we never spoke about it
much.
I suppose it's easier to
pretend that it never happened
but he took it really bad.
He made us try again and
again for another baby
but nothing happened.
It was like a punishment.
So we, we moved house.
We got new friends.
I didn't want it to be part of
us anymore.
I'd have thought you
could've understood that.
- Marsha, are you aware that
other babies
have died in infancy in your
family?
- No, I didn't, how do you
- I checked in the graveyard
and at the public records
office.
There are two, possibly
three over the last 40 years.
I believe you carry a genetic
deficiency
that causes any child of yours
to be vulnerable to bacterial
infection.
- No, I didn't know that.
40 years?
I suppose people just
didn't talk about it then.
- No.
- I saw her do it.
- I don't think so, Marsha,
but there's something else.
The expert witness suppressed
evidence at the first trial.
That's going to trigger an
appeal.
- An appeal?
- Katie's conviction is unsafe.
I think it's likely she'll be
released.
- What because it's the genetic
thing?
- Because she didn't get a fair
trial.
- No.
But it can't, it can't be me.
It can't be me.
See, I loved my baby.
I loved my baby. [Cries]
[crowd yelling]
- Taxi!
I have no comment.
University College.
- [Man] There's Katie Phelan!
- Katie Phelan!
- Katie!
- This is a great day, a bloody
great day.
My daughter should never been
in prison in the first place.
Her trial was a court
martial, that's what it was.
It was a parade.
No kind of trial at all.
She didn't kill anybody.
My Katie did not kill that baby.
She had to go through a hell,
hell in prison for years.
We're taking action, legal
action,
against the prison service,
the police and especially,
especially Dr. Diane Marquis.
They're going to pay for this!
- [Man] When are you going to
take action
against Dr. Marquis?
- [Mr. Phelan] As soon as
possible.
- [Woman] Are you really
going to try suing the police?
- [Mr. Phelan] Of course I am,
yes.
Yes.
So what?
- It must be horrible to
go through all that again.
[crowd yelling questions]
- Well, the thruth's difficult.
They just need time to get used
to it.
- Should we go then?
- Maloney, we've won.
Let me have my moment.
- You had it?
- Yes, thank you.
- Right.
- [Man] Katie coming home with
you?
- Yeah, yeah, Katie's come home.
Sorry, what was that?
- [Man] Are you hoping to
get your other children back?
- Definitely, yes.
- [Man] And will you be
going for compensation?
- Absolutely, absolutely.
- [Man] What do you
think of British justice?
- [Mr. Phelan] What do you
think?
- Dr. Diane Marquess was
suspended
from her post today as questions
continue
to be asked about her
role as an expert witness
in a number of criminal trials
concerning infant deaths.
But Wendy Sillery, from
the criminal justice.
[all cheering]
What's your reaction to this
suspension?
- Well, this was a success
for the Criminal Justice Review
Agency
because of diligent and
responsible investigation
and reluctance to take
things at face value.
- When did you become suspicious
that Dr. Marquis hadn't
reviewed the evidence correctly?
- We apply a meticulous approach
to all our investigations
and a painstaking
examination of the paperwork.
- Yep, that's Rose,
finish each paperwork.
[all laughing]
- Got my name in for all that.
- Thank God or we'd have
to chain you to the desk.
- Yeah and bring out the
handcuff.
I didn't say that, Rose.
- I remember Joyce.
It was a good save, Rose,
Maloney.
Thank you.
[all clapping]
[phone rings]
- Yeah?
Yeah okay, do interviews
tonight.
- Oh, hello, it's Dr. Pearson,
isn't it?
- Yes, I,
I wonder if I could
have a word in private.
- Yeah.
Go through.
I saw the result
of the Katie Phelan appeal
on television today.
I understand that a suggestion
of a genetic link between
the two cot deaths.
- That's correct.
- After the first baby died in
1994,
I referred Marsha Campese
to a consultant gynaecologist
for tubal sterilisation.
- I'm not sure I quite
understand.
- She couldn't have been the
mother of that second baby.
- But a sterilisation could be
reversed.
- There were complications.
The surgeons performed
a full hysterectomy.
- So there's no genetic link
to explain the two cot deaths.
- I think they got it wrong.
- Erm,
hang on a second.
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