We're building a strong, prosperous Australia.
It is a massive project.
A new era of forward thinking.
Truly big picture stuff.
- We have a national to-do list.
- Major infrastructure project.
It's an incredible, transformative opportunity.
We'll spend more than any government has ever spent.
- An extraordinary figure of - $10 billion.
- $35 billion.
- $44 billion.
$75 billion.
This is a nation building - Nation building - Nation building - Nation building - Nation building Nation building.
I mean, it's sort of one way of thinking about it.
We think about that a lot.
But, I mean, you have to think about downstream effects and how that feeds into competing infrastructure.
- So, do we build it or not? - Well, this is what I'm trying to explain.
There's no point in building anything unless you're gonna integrate it fully into other existing assets.
So, you're saying, no, don't build it? - No, I'm not saying that.
- So, we do? No, I'm saying No, no.
I'm saying I'm saying let's not be piecemeal.
- So, you're attacking the government? - No, I'm not attacking the government.
- But you said 'piecemeal'.
- Yeah.
No, well, I said 'piecemeal'.
What I was trying to say Oh, okay, I'm saying we need to take a more holistic view of the costs and needs associated with infrastructure, as we If that answers your question.
If you've just joined us, this is Nation Shapers.
We're speaking with infrastructure supremo Tony Woodford from the NBA.
Plenty of texts streaming in on both sides of the issue - Morning, Tony.
- Morning, Brian.
Heard you last night on Shape Shifters.
- Nation Shapers.
- Yep, that's the one.
Tough interview.
Yeah.
It was more a conversation than an interview.
- Right.
I reckon he shaded you.
- It wasn't a competition, Brian.
He sort of backed you into a corner.
Still, I guess that's what those radio guys do.
- They're pros.
- Yep, I guess.
- How tough were the callers? - I didn't take calls.
After you left.
What is it with some people? Make your point, but there's no need to get personal.
- Sorry? - You're just there, trying to do your best.
You know, I better get on with the stuff.
That's the way, yeah.
Get back in the saddle.
- Put it behind you, Tony.
- Yep.
- Good morning, Minister.
- Ladies, how are you? - It's right this way.
- Good to see you again.
- Hello.
Hi.
- Ash.
David.
So, in short, this automated traffic sequencing system alone will cut travel times by up to a third.
Wow.
I mean, this feeds straight into the innovation agenda, tech transformation, Aussie ingenuity.
That's actually a Canadian system.
But installed by Aussies, operated by Aussies.
Pretty Aussie.
Every time I come in here, I get energised.
Oh.
Thank you, Minister.
- Speaking of exciting projects - Very exciting.
- GovPort.
- GovPort.
It's our big, new online initiative.
The digital transformation agenda.
Huge affair.
It's gonna revolutionise the way people - Access? - Access access multiple government agencies via their own unique - Portal.
- Portal.
It's an integrated online system for every Aussie - to access all the - Government agencies.
- You don't mean GovLink? - Was GovLink.
It's been rebooted and it's doing pretty well.
- Very well.
- Got a good new team involved.
Great team.
But we just feel we need some robust project management.
And who are the best project managers in the country? Who? - You.
The NBA.
- Quite a compliment.
Right.
Not to take over? - No, no.
- Of course not.
'Cause I assume the office of digital transformation would be in charge.
And they're doing a wonderful job, but I feel we need some fresh eyes.
- Aren't the new team fresh eyes? - Fresher.
So, what do you think? - We could have a look.
- Oh, every time! - Yep.
- And that one, not quite.
See, now Oh, Nat, did you get a chance to think of any words? - Just remind me.
- For the graphics wall.
Oh, yeah.
What sort of words? Oh, just inspirational ones that we can just put up here.
- Okay, sure.
Um, 'innovation'.
- Got that.
- 'Originality'.
- Got it.
'Thinking outside the square'.
- Quite a few had that.
- 'Individuality'.
- And that.
- You know what? I'll have a think.
Okay.
- Tony? - Yep.
- Have you got a second? - Yep.
Uh - It is a compliment, isn't it? - Yeah, yeah.
I guess.
- It's just that - Just that what? That's not a word.
Still not really a word.
Letters.
I tend to avoid those projects.
- Why? - Very complicated.
You know what? I just don't think this country's very good at them.
- Really? - No.
I don't think we're naturally software architecture minded.
- Well, that's your generation.
- My gen I don't care what generation it is.
That stuff has a way of biting you on the arse.
- Sorry, what is it? - GovPort.
Users can access all government services via a unique, personalised digital interface.
You know what? It it it is a compliment.
Be running a big, uh What is it again? - Digital interface.
- Digital Yeah, well, there you go.
I'm I'm already lost.
So, you think it's a good idea? You've stopped using words again.
- Have I? - Yes.
Ah, well, that's my generation, isn't it? There she is.
Your ears will be burning.
- Jim.
- Just spoke to the minister.
- GovLink.
- GovPort.
Huge compliment to be running that.
Oh, no.
I'm not running it.
He just wants fresh eyes.
- Lead agency.
- Is that right? When did we become lead agency? Big vote of confidence in you.
Better watch your back, eh? - Yeah, I better watch - Tony? - Yep.
- Rhonda's looking for you.
Yeah, don't have time for Rhonda right now.
Just hold off - Rhonda.
He's in with Nat.
- No, I'm Just give me five.
- What was that about last night? - Huh? Oh, you let yourself get backed into a corner.
Corner? I was answering the question.
Exactly.
Stick to the talking points.
We can't have you out there doing interviews if you're gonna go rogue on us.
It was a conversation.
I was trying to explain the issues.
- What would you do that for? - What would you have said? That this government is determined to meet the critical infrastructure needs of our country.
We're still in the middle of a rigorous assessment process, but if the business case holds up, and we are confident that it will, we'll be up at the crack of dawn, day one, shovels ready.
Yep.
Do you know the actual project he was asking me about? I don't need to know.
Talking points, Tony.
- Don't get bogged down in details.
- They're called 'facts'.
Whatever they're called, they're not helping you.
Anyway, new day, put that behind you because look what we have.
Horizons 2030, all done.
- Yeah, it looks great.
Yep.
- What do you think? The boldest infrastructure blueprint since Federation.
Uh-huh.
Oh.
I thought you'd be a little more excited.
Rhonda, do you know how many bold infrastructure blueprints I've had to oversee? I think the graphics team has done a wonderful job.
Yeah, well, they've had practice.
Rhonda, it's just a laundry list of all these ideas that everyone wants to hear.
No, no.
This is visionary.
This "This is an exciting step "towards addressing the needs of all Australians.
" What a crock.
Who said that? - You did.
It's in your forward.
- I didn't write a forward.
I had one written for you.
Anyway, there's already a mountain of embargoed media interest in this.
Obviously the PM and the relevant ministers will handle the bulk of it, but we're still gonna get quite a few requests.
Which brings me back to Ugh.
- To what? - Last night's whipping.
Whipping? It was a conversation.
When was the last time you did any formal media training? - Never? - Well, there's a mystery solved.
- All right, leave it with me.
- It doesn't even sound like me.
Oh, finally a positive.
Thank you.
What do you think We can't even plan next month.
You really don't have to do a PowerPoint.
- I think I do.
- You can't just give me a summary? This is the summary.
Okay, the scheme was first announced six years ago.
- Six? - My GovSpace.
And? There were some initial implementation issues.
- Meaning? - The trial site crashed.
And then some ongoing operational deficiencies.
- Meaning? - It kept crashing.
And finally, some capacity and capability constraints.
It was taken offline for upgrades.
They didn't work.
So, it was relaunched as smartGov.
- And? - It worked.
Provided not too many people were using it.
- What happened if they did? - It crashed.
So, they replaced the software, they replaced the hardware.
They should've replaced the minister.
They replaced the minister and rebranded the scheme as SmarterGov.
- And? - It stopped crashing.
- That's good.
- It just didn't work.
Again, the multiple user issue.
So, a year later, it was rebranded as Govporter.
Just out of interest, how many more slides are there? Twelve plus eight.
And two after that.
Mate, you're allowed to sit on the fence.
Brian, I wasn't actually sitting on the fence.
- Did you go on their Facebook page? - No, I didn't.
- Some people really stood up for you.
- That's nice.
Against all the attack dogs, the haters and one - Sorry, sorry, Brian.
Courtney? - Yes, Tony? - Sorry.
Just, with the, um - With the what, Tony? With the Courtney I mean, the Court I need to speak to Courtney.
- I'll leave you to it.
- Sure.
Thanks, Brian.
- What did you want me for? - This? Are you hot? I can go get Brian back in No, no, no.
It's a signal when I want to be saved.
- Did Katie not mention the? - Oh! Yes.
Sorry.
- Ah, saved from who? - Him, Mr Media Monitor.
What's Brian doing up here anyway? Working on the graphics wall.
Have you had a chance to come up with any words? - What was it again? - To sum up our office.
Sum up our office? Oh.
'Distracted', 'inefficient', 'delusional'.
- I might make two lists.
- Yeah, let's do that.
Tony, that was Rhonda.
She thinks that we should have a dinner.
For To celebrate Horizons 2030 in light of our stellar work.
Is it all right if I organise a venue? - Okay, but let's keep it small.
- Sure.
- Just the key people.
- Mm-hmm.
Oh, Katie, you didn't happen to hear my radio interview - last night on the ABC, did you? - A little.
- Yeah? How'd you think I went? - Good.
- Oh.
And? - I think he won.
- Well, it wasn't a contest.
- Well, not by much.
No, but See, this is why I don't like doing media.
I mean, I try and level with the general public, you know, explain the difficulties inherent with any major project, and then the interviewer just comes along and, uh - Wins? - Well, he didn't I was all right, though, wasn't I? - Sure.
- Okay.
- Have they asked you back? - No.
- Phew.
- What do you mean 'phew'? Oh, just 'cause you're so busy and everything.
- Right, with scheduling.
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
Okay.
Thanks.
- Hm.
Hm.
GovLink version 2.
0 had architecture issues, - so that led to - GovPort.
I'm getting there.
GovMate, GoodGov, then Govgo, then GovGo! with an exclamation mark, let'sGo, and finally, GovPort.
Thank God.
And what's the problem with it? Problems with the architecture, capacity issues, cost blowouts, - delays, poor oversight.
- Right.
Vulnerable to DOS attack, data insecurity, potential for ID fraud.
Oh, and it wouldn't stop crashing.
Yeah, got a moment, Scotty? - How good's this come up? - Oh, yeah, yeah.
It's come "This comprehensive plan for the next 20 years "sets a serious agenda.
" Yeah, well, they're just words, aren't they? Your words.
Tell me the page where it says the government has committed - to a single project.
- Where is it? - It's not there.
- Ah.
Bloody printers.
- No.
- They had one job.
Yeah, no.
Actually, Scotty, you didn't happen to hear the radio interview I did last night, did you? Damn, I missed it.
That's okay.
You wouldn't mind giving it a listen? - I'd love to.
- It's on the podcast Nation Shapers.
Oh, great.
Um, just be interested in any feedback or tips or something.
- I'll do it right now.
- Yeah, no rush.
- I was thinking - Oh, sorry, Brian.
Buzzing.
- Yeah.
- Yes.
Hello? Uh-huh.
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
- Yep.
What? - Oh, when you're finished.
- No, there's no one here.
- Have we changed our signal again? No, no, we haven't, no.
Oh.
Rhonda says you need media training.
No.
It's in caps with three exclamation marks.
Sure.
Whatever.
And I've started a list for the staff dinner.
It's not a staff dinner.
It's actually a gathering - How many names are here? - You said key people.
I also said small.
There's a dozen names here.
Actually, I think we have to make it 13.
I forgot Bec.
- Bec's no longer here.
- She worked so hard, Tony.
- She wrote your forward.
- Can we keep a lid on this? - Sure.
And Bec? - Yeah, sure.
Whatever.
be turning in his grave.
Who is this guy? - Oh.
- Thoughts? Uh, it's good.
Yeah, it's fine.
It's just that I saw you, you know, by accident, wincing a little.
- Was I? - Yeah, just - No, it's it's fine.
- So, in summary? - I think he won.
- It wasn't a contest.
- It was a conversation.
- That's what they do.
They lull you into a false sense of security, - and then bang, you look silly.
- I looked silly? Not silly.
Off balance.
Inept.
- Inept? - Those guys are pros, Tony.
Thanks, Brian.
Thanks, yeah.
- Eh, you got a few points across.
- Oh, well, that's good.
- What was Beryl on about? - I didn't stay for the callers.
Waffled? I'll tell you who waffled, Beryl.
Thanks anyway.
That's Thanks, Scotty.
That's all I wanted to know.
Just a bit of feedback.
- David.
- David.
- Take a seat.
- Fantastic.
Welcome to GovPort central.
I was told the team leader was Sonya.
- It was.
- She's on stress leave.
Right.
And how's it looking from your end? - It's a big project.
- Huge.
We've all been under the pump a little.
But hopefully now with you guys taking over - Oh, no, we're not - Lead agency.
- Lead agency? - That's what we were told.
Okay, can you show me how the system works? Sure.
So, you're wanting to use GovPort for the first time.
All you do is just log on by hitting this.
And now, set up your own unique GovPort identifier.
Meaning? Eight characters, letters or numbers.
Oh.
Okay.
'Nat1234'.
- That's seven.
- '5'.
Now, select your user profile from the scroll down menu.
Hmm individual taxpayer.
- What's 'Error 404'? - Uh, that shouldn't be there.
- It is there.
- I see what you've done wrong.
Just hit Tools.
Quit individual session.
Now, just Adding the word 'just' doesn't make this any more straightforward.
Okay, sure.
Just Simply hit that button.
"Required field missing".
- What? - Oh, I see what she's done.
- Oh, yeah.
Okay, go back.
- I've been logged out.
- 'Cause you went back.
- Yeah, 'cause he told me Can I hit undo? - Uh, there is no undo.
- We didn't feel it was needed.
- I need it.
- Yeah, I can see that.
Why don't you give it another bash? - Oh, hey.
- Hey, Brian.
Hey, Scotty was showing me that new report of yours, Horizon 2020.
- 2030.
- 2030? - Yeah.
- Well done.
- Cop that, Beryl.
- Yeah.
There's already been a bit about it on Twitter.
Has there? I'll show you some of the interesting ones.
I've actually got to head on upstairs.
- I could come up, too.
- Okay, yeah.
Um, oh, here's a good one.
Cobber47 calls us the Nation Bullshit Authority.
- How is that good? - Oh, it's good funny.
- Oh, right.
Yeah.
- Here's another good one.
Good funny.
Okay, now, while holding down command, just hit Alt-P.
- Now, just hit Esc.
- You want me to help? - Yes.
- Now, just hit F3.
Okay, hold it there.
I'm my grandmother.
She only has two hands and very basic computer skills.
Show me how she can use this system.
Okay.
What's your grandmother's name? - Jocelyn.
- Okay, Jocelyn, you just Without saying 'just'.
You open a new session.
Username.
- "Nat1234".
- 5.
Now, request SMS verification.
- Does Jocelyn have a mobile phone? - Yes.
Now, you should've received a code.
No.
- You sure? - Yes.
Okay, I can see what she's done wrong.
My grandmother hasn't done anything wrong.
Look, I'm gonna have to get our tech people in because Hold on.
Uh, where have all my contacts gone? - Oh, that could - It might be.
Yeah, we've got a bug with our SMS protocols.
Okay, let's just open settings, then just hit notifications.
Then, just - Oh, gee, that's weird.
- Oh, wow.
That was retweeted a few dozen times.
Oh, what else have we got? Why don't you send the link through to Katie? And then she can print them out or something.
- Morning, Courtney.
- Morning, Tony.
- Courtney? - Yeah? Oh.
Uh, Brian? - Yes? - You need to stay away from Tony.
- What? - What? What? No.
You need to go to the office.
- Why? - I don't know, but now.
Was it something to do with the graphics wall? - No.
- Might have been the graphics wall.
- No.
- Actually, just check on that 'cause I think I think I heard something yesterday, - it was about the graphics - All right, I'm straight on it.
Courtney, you've got to have a reason ready to go.
Oh, sorry.
Oh, the graphics wall! - Graphics wall.
- Right.
Yeah.
That's okay.
That's okay.
Oh, also, Rhonda needs to see you.
- Uh, joking? - Sort of.
- How's it looking? - Mm.
- Now you're not using words.
- It's in serious trouble.
It's IT.
Of course it's in trouble.
No.
Like, serious, serious trouble.
Yeah, it's IT.
So, what are you gonna do? I'm gonna tell the minister he should shelve it.
- Whoa! - Seriously, it's a disaster.
It'd just be pouring good money after bad.
You won't convince him.
Do you know you can buy this software off the shelf from Korea for a tenth of the cost? - Your point being? - A tenth! - What do you drink? - What? You know, like, French Champagne? - No.
- Wine? - Craft cider.
- Don't even know what that is.
Bottle of Veuve says you won't stop this thing.
Are you serious? - It's a bet.
- It's a bet.
Tony, can I just check, do either of you have any dietary intolerances? - No.
- No.
Why? It's for the staff dinner.
With the degustation menu, they don't have a gluten-free Scotty.
Great.
I was meaning to mention, we're planning a small staff dinner for this Friday.
Oh, is that Yeah, just a casual get-together to celebrate Horizons 2030.
I didn't have much to do with it.
Oh, no, everyone put in and we'd love you to be a part of it.
Sure.
I'll check if Kelly's free.
Okay.
- Katie.
- I didn't realise he was there.
- Now, Kelly's coming.
- So, it's partners? Well, it is now! I'll see if they can add some tables.
Nation Builders.
Heard you asked for a meeting with the minister.
- Yes.
- This is great.
Can I tell you, the digital transformation agenda is playing so well.
Just so I can give the minister a heads-up, all good? Well, we reviewed the entire GovPort project.
- Great.
- Met with the design team.
- Yeah.
- Quite a few times.
- Excellent.
- And our advice is shut it down.
- Right.
What's option B? - There is no option B.
- Then why have an option A? - I didn't call it option A.
- But you said it first.
- Jim, that's my advice.
- What's your advice? - Same folder.
- What happened to good cop/bad cop? - Jim Look, before we go scaring the horses We're not scaring the horses.
Before we go scaring the minister, let's ask ourselves the question, what do we gain by shutting this thing down? - We save 750 million.
- But apart from that.
It's a dog.
It's never going to work.
But we can't give up now.
Aussie know-how.
We're so close! - Close? - Ad campaign's nearly finished.
You guys are making progress.
Jim, 750 million just fixes the basic platform.
Right.
Now we're getting somewhere.
- I'm not saying we should spend that.
- But we could.
- Yes.
- Let's call it option B.
Jim, 750 million is just the start.
- It's a good start.
- What would you do with 800? - Jim - Look, if we pull the pin now, people will think this whole thing was a mistake.
- It was.
- But they don't know that.
We're in a privileged position.
This all feeds straight into Horizons 2030.
It's digital.
It's the future.
- I think we shut it down.
- All right! Before we all start losing our heads, let's just calm down.
What's option C? - Morning, Courtney.
- Morning, Tony.
- Anything for me? - Left it on your desk.
- All good? - Yep? Okay.
Katie, is Courtney coming to the dinner? - No.
- Does Courtney know about the dinner? - I think so.
- Add her to the list.
Oh, and we've had to find a new venue.
What? What's wrong with the place down the road? - It's not big enough.
- What? Well, the accounts team found out.
- How? - Bec told them.
- Bec's not even here.
- She put it on her Facebook page.
Oh, and I think we have to invite Steph.
Steph? What for? Well, she'd be really upset if she found out.
Then make sure she doesn't find out.
She's one of Bec's Facebook friends.
I was in a good mood, like, one minute ago.
Welcome, Mr Woodford.
I'm Courtney.
I know.
Rhonda wants to make this look as real as possible.
- Oh, okay.
Yeah.
- Can I get you a coffee? - You you just got me one.
- Come inside and meet our host.
- Yep.
- This is Katie.
- What the hell is - Nice to meet you, Tony.
- How was the trip in? - Katie.
Oh, it was fine.
- From the - I'm Scott, the floor manager.
- Yep.
- Ah, can we get a mic on this guy? Yeah, I got that.
I'm Brian.
I'll be doing your sound.
- Okay, thank you, Brian.
- Just take a seat.
Yep.
No, I'll get it down here.
Actually, do we really need all these lights? Oh, sorry, Katie.
Tony's a bit busy at the moment.
No, she has to stay here.
She's interviewing.
- Who do you want to leave? - Nobody.
- Do you want me to leave? - Uh, yeah, sure.
- I'll go get that coffee.
- Yeah, I didn't Okay.
Okay, folks, I think we are good to go.
- Now, Tony, looking comfortable.
- How's that? - He said comfortable.
- I am.
- No, you're slumping.
- What? - Lift from your core.
- Okay.
Shoulders back.
No, too far.
You look intense.
Chin up.
Split the difference.
Confident, poised, warm smile.
- Warm.
- I am.
- Don't look at the camera.
- I wasn't looking at the camera.
- Don't look at me.
- Well, I gotta look - He's slumping again.
- Thanks.
I think we're fine, Brian.
- Okay, let's go for one.
- Please.
And we're on in five, four, three - Good morning, Tony.
Welcome.
- Thank you.
Horizons 2030, why do we need this report? Well, I guess that's a good question.
- Rhonda wrote it.
- Yeah, I picked that up.
I guess it's an attempt by governments to set out their long-term infrastructure agenda.
Unfortunately, the problem is sticking to what they've said - Stop.
What are you doing? - I'm answering the question.
Oh, look, if you're not gonna take this seriously - I am taking it seriously.
- Then stick to the talking points.
- I was.
- You weren't.
- I was.
- You weren't.
- I was.
- This is great TV.
- He's gone rogue again.
- Slumping.
- Yeah, thanks, Brian.
- Up.
Out.
Ask me a question.
Okay.
Let's now go to Rhonda from Canberra.
Rhonda, why do we need this report? Well, Katie, that's a good question.
For too long, infrastructure has been a political football, kicked around by those with short-term vested interests.
But now, we have a line in the sand.
Horizons 2030.
Finally, a blueprint, an action plan.
- Wow.
- When does an interviewer say "Wow"? Can I ask Rhonda a question? Okay.
Let's hear from Tony from the NBA.
Rhonda, can you tell me anywhere in this nebulous wish list that is actually binding on the government? You see, this is the point that people like Tony miss because they're narrow-minded, short-term thinkers.
- I'm short-term? You're the short - Let Rhonda finish.
Okay.
Past governments have been haphazard, some might even say piecemeal, with infrastructure planning.
But all that business as usual has to stop.
Horizons 2030 is a war cry.
It's transformative.
It's it's a blueprint for the future.
Oh, bravo! - What is this? Q&A? - Katie, go to a break.
Can I just raise something about I'm sorry, Tony.
I'm afraid we're out of time.
- Why did we run out of time? - And we're out.
- You're wincing.
- I think Rhonda won that one.
- Slumping! Tone? - Well - Yeah? - Just round one.
All right? - There is no option C.
- But Jim said that we need to Look, we just present the minister with a simple summary, how bad the system is, how much money and time it will take to fix.
So, give him both barrels? Isn't that what ministers sometimes have to do? Face up to the media and eat a shit sandwich? - So, that's the new figure, is it? - Yes, Minister.
- And the time line? - That's what it would be.
- This is very exciting.
- Absolutely.
- Exciting? - Your recommendation that we proceed.
Oh, no.
I didn't give a rec I'm saying, if we were to proceed, it's going to cost millions of dollars.
Well, I think we all agree we should proceed.
- Absolutely.
- A lot of positives in here.
Minister, if we could perhaps put the report aside, I think I need to give you What's the expression? - Both barrels? - No, the other expression.
- A shit sandwich.
- No.
Uh, some frank and fearless advice.
Ooh, old days.
Always ready for it.
To proceed any further with GovPort would require a minimum of 700-750 million.
My guess, all up, it'll be north of a billion dollars.
To complete it.
No, that's just to redo the architecture.
- But completed.
- Yeah.
So, what you're really saying is we can get it up.
- No.
- But we're on the right track.
It would then take another call it half a billion to get it up to roll out.
So, now we're talking roll out? This is exciting.
But I just wonder, in terms of priorities, whether this is something that we should be pursuing.
Are you serious? This is absolutely a priority.
It's it's Aussie ingenuity, it's digital transformation, it's infrastructure of the future, it's it's - eFrastructure.
- What was that? - Nothing.
- No, no, no, no, no.
He said it.
- E - Frastructure.
There it is, right in front of our faces.
- eFrastructure.
- Great word.
Well, I'm on the 6:10 flight to Canberra.
I feel like I could fly there myself.
Nat, we're just locking off our list of words for the graphics wall.
How about 'blow-out'? 'White elephant'? - No one's come up with those.
- 'Black hole'.
- Or that.
- 'Waste'.
'Fundamentally flawed'.
- I might add them to Tony's list.
- Okay.
- Heard the meeting went well.
- Jim, you've gotta stop this thing.
Are you kidding? 'eFrastructure'? - It's just a word.
- A good word.
PM's borrowed it for the Horizons 2030 launch.
Oh, it's the Treasurer.
"Is there a hyphen in 'eFrastructure'?" I've gotta make a delivery.
So, hyphen? - Lower-case 'E', upper-case 'F'.
- Oh, nice.
Imagine a world where the future is only the touch of a button away, where every Australian can stay connected, no matter where you go, who you are, or what you do.
Australia, our digital transformation is underway.
GovPort, think of it as eFrastructure.
Because there can't be an 'us' without a 'U'.
It's on the minister's website and YouTube channel.
- I blame myself.
- So do I.
Tony, I just spoke to the event manager.
We've got an event manager? He wants to know do you prefer a lapel mic or a podium? Why would I need a microphone? For the speeches, so the tables up the back can hear.
I'm not giving a speech.
It's Rhonda's dinner.
Oh, she can't make it.
She's not turning up to her own dinner? Well, now that she's doing all your interviews No podium, no microphone.
I'll just speak loudly.
Okay.
See you at the dinner.
Oh, is there a dinner? - Hey, Tony.
- Oh, yeah.
Hi.
Just wanted to say thank you.
This was a really great idea.
Oh, no.
Anytime.
Great to see you.
- Thanks.
- Good on you.
Yeah.
- Who's that? - No idea.
Steven.
Bec's new boyfriend.
- New boyfriend? - Yeah.
- Yeah.
- Bit of all right, Tone? Oh, yeah, yeah.
No, good you could come.
- Wouldn't miss it.
- Yeah.
- Hey, Rhonda did well.
- Rhonda? Yeah, I just saw her interviewed on the telly.
- Yeah, very professional.
- Oh, went well, did it? Yeah.
Twitterverse is blowing up.
Good job.
Oh, that's great.
Yeah.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Hey.
Whoo.
All right.
- Nat? - Yep? Oh, my God.
I think they might have used the wrong list.
Tony!