60 Minutes (1968) s46e18 Episode Script
Season 46, Episode 18
Last November 19th, Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds was slashed and stabbed repeatedly by his own son.
Gus Deeds was 24 years old and had been struggling with mental illness.
He and his father had been in an emergency room just hours before the attack but didn't get the help that they needed.
The story of what went wrong with his medical care exposes a problem in the way that America handles mental health.
It's a failure that came to the fore with the murders at Sandy Hook Elementary School.
The vast majority of mental patients are not violent.
But this is a story about the fraction who are a danger to themselves or others.
Parents of mentally ill children in crisis often find, as Sen.
Deeds did, that they have nowhere to go.
Creigh Deeds bears the scars of this failure on his face, his body and his soul.
Creigh Deeds: I really don't want Gus to be defined by his illness.
I don't want Gus to be defined by what happened on the 19th.
Gus was a great kid.
He was a perfect son.
It's clear the system failed.
It's clear that it failed Gus.
It killed Gus.
We met Creigh Deeds four weeks after the attack.
He was still distraught.
But he told us his story was a warning that could not wait.
Scott Pelley: What would have saved Gus? Creigh Deeds: If he could have been hospitalized that night, they could have gotten him medicated, and I could have worked to get Gus in some sort of long term care.
This is Gus Deeds when he was 20 years old, a talented musician on the Dean's List at the College of William and Mary.
Creigh Deeds: Gus, when he turned 20, I was running for governor.
He wanted to come and so he took the fall of 2009 to be with me and those are some of the best memories of my life is having him with me there.
But after the campaign, for no reason anyone could see, Gus Deeds stopped taking care of himself and became paranoid, obsessive, anti-social.
He dropped out and couldn't keep a job.
In was so worried that Gus would kill himself Deeds told us he got rid of all of the guns in their rural farmhouse-except one hunting rifle that had no ammunition.
Later, with medication, Gus returned to William and Mary until last fall.
Creigh Deeds: Gus had posted weird things on his Facebook page about-- you know, how the professors were ganging up against him.
And he was gonna start boycotting class.
It was pretty clear to me that he wasn't taking medicine.
I told Gus that he and I needed to talk to somebody together.
That's when Deeds discovered that "talking to somebody," getting treatment, is harder in mental health than any other kind of medicine.
In the decades after the 1960s most large mental institutions were closed.
It was thought that patients would get better treatment back in their communities.
But adequate local facilities were never built.
The number of beds available to psychiatric patients in America dropped from more than half a million to fewer than with one option: the emergency room.
Brian Geyser: You know, every day, we have into our emergency department, kids who wanna kill themselves, who've tried to kill themselves, who've tried to kill somebody else.
Brian Geyser is a nurse practitioner we met in the emergency department of Yale New Haven Hospital in Connecticut- it's one of the best in the nation in psychiatry.
Brian Geyser: We have 52 psychiatric beds here at Yale.
And right now, all 52 are full.
And so the seven kids that are here in the emergency room are waiting for an open bed.
Scott Pelley: How long will they wait? Brian Geyser: Five of them have been here three days already.
Most every day the beds are full of patients in crisis.
Seventeen-year-old Tyler Wrightington was waiting in the ER.
He had just slashed his face with a knife.
Scott Pelley: You hear voices? Tyler Wrightington: Yes.
A new voice came about a year ago.
And he, well, I call it a he, 'cause it was more of a deeper voice.
But he ended up telling me to hurt myself and making me find ways to hurt myself.
Scott Pelley: Do the voices ever tell you to hurt someone else? Tyler Wrightington: Only once, and that was at school.
And they and that was when I got admitted into the hospital.
'Cause I was actually considering hurting the people around me.
And I was, I was like, "This ain't me.
This is not what I wanna do.
" Tyler's dad, Ernie Wrightington, had called a psychiatrist that week but couldn't get an appointment for three months.
There's a national shortage of psychiatrists.
Scott Pelley: Why is there not another option for you? Ernie Wrightington: This has always been our only option.
Scott Pelley: The emergency room.
Ernie Wrightington: The emergency room, yeah.
Because the, we know that when we come here, they take the time to take care of him.
They sit and watch him, make sure he's OK.
But OK usually means- OK for the moment.
Typically, insurance companies pay for this care only as long as the patients are - quote -- at "imminent risk" of harming themselves or others.
Brian Geyser: Some insurance companies will give us a couple of days, a few days before they ask us to call them back to get reauthorization for the admission.
Some of them are every single day that we have to call.
And so usually, you know, we're talking about, you know, three to four days, and the insurance companies are saying, "All right, you know, it's time.
Let's get this kid out.
" Scott Pelley: Because they're not going to kill themselves or someone else right now? Brian Geyser: Right now, yeah.
Many patients need care for months or years.
But there are few facilities of that kind, they're expensive, and often insurance won't cover them.
So kids in crisis spin in the emergency room's revolving door.
Brian Geyser: We need to be able to set up a system where we follow these kids into the community, we follow the families, we make sure that they have a safety net, and somebody's watching them and monitoring them because, you know, it could be next month, it could be six months from now, and the child will do something again, but if they are not hooked into a system that is watching them, taking care of them, then we could have problems on our hands.
Scott Pelley: How many of you have had to take your child to the emergency room? Everybody.
Scott Pelley How many times? Mary Jo Andrews: I can't count.
Meg Clancy: I couldn't count.
Seven Connecticut mothers, including Mary Jo Andrews, Meg Clancy, and Dee Orsi told us about their ER crises and battles over insurance.
Dee Orsi: My daughter, after spending, she was eight old at the time, spending 12 days in the hospital they told me she was ready to come home.
By Friday morning we were in the psychiatrist's office for her follow up appointment.
She was seeing blood dripping from the walls.
There were statues telling her to kill me and she was ready for discharge three days earlier.
Meg Clancy: We had one with an insurance company.
They wanted to discharge my daughter.
She needed to stay where she was safe and the insurance company would not pay and so I was told by our social worker in the hospital that if I gave my daughter up to Department of Children and Families, that then she would have insurance coverage through the state and she would be allowed to stay.
Scott Pelley: Wait a minute.
Give-- give-- Meg Clancy: Give her up.
Scott Pelley: Give her up to the state? Meg Clancy: Correct.
Give her up to the state.
Scott Pelley: And you said what? Meg Clancy: Absolutely not.
They formed this support group because so few people understand their troubles.
For example, they share the names of contractors to repair walls or remove doors.
Their children punch holes in the dry wall and can't be allowed to lock themselves in a room.
Scott Pelley: What is the difference between being the mother of a child who has mental illness and the mother of a child who might have heart disease or cancer? Meg Clancy: Sympathy.
Being in Connecticut, they watched the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary with more insight than most.
Referring to the killer's mother one of them told us, if Nancy Lanza had a health care plan for her son, "she couldn't have made it work.
" Mary Jo Andrews: There's really no place after the hospital so the kids end up coming back home right where the situation started.
And you know, the psychiatrists and the hospital will say, "You're right, the system is broken" and I remember at one discharge I refused to sign the discharge paper because I wasn't going to agree that it was appropriate.
Scott Pelley: They discharged your child anyway? Mary Jo Andrews: Oh yeah, yes.
That is essentially what happened to Creigh Deeds in Virginia last November.
But his effort was further complicated by the fact that his son Gus was an adult, over 18-and Gus didn't want treatment.
Deeds had to get a court order and sheriff's deputies to take Gus to the ER.
A state law, designed to protect patients' rights, meant that the court order would expire in only six hours.
That's all they had to find a hospital that would admit him.
Creigh Deeds: Whole afternoon, Gus didn't sit down.
He paced the floor.
He'd look at me.
He'd smile.
And I just had this sinking feeling that he wasn't gonna be hospitalized.
Scott Pelley: And if you didn't find a hospital bed in six hours, Gus was comin' home.
Creigh Deeds: He was coming home.
And I was concerned that if he came home, there would, there was gonna be a crisis.
A representative of the county agency that manages mental health care told Deeds that he couldn't find a hospital with a psychiatric bed appropriate for Gus' case.
Scott Pelley: You're concerned that your son is suicidal-- the clock has run out on the emergency room and he comes in and says, "Sorry, you've gotta leave?" Creigh Deeds: Well, the-- he said that Gus wasn't suicidal.
I guess he'd made-- Scott Pelley: Based on his evaluation.
Creigh Deeds: His evaluation that Gus wasn't suicidal.
Scott Pelley: What did you say to him, in leaving--the emergency room? Creigh Deeds: I said, "The system failed my son tonight.
" There was no place to go but home.
Creigh Deeds: And he sat at one end of the dining room table.
I sat at the other end.
I ate my food, and he just was writing furiously in this journal he kept.
Not much conversation, and-- I said, "Good night, Bud.
" I didn't know what was gonna happen.
But, the next morning, you know, I felt like there'd be a confrontation but I didn't I had no reason to think there'd be violence.
And-- but, you know, I got ready for work and I went out to the barn to feed the horses and Gus was coming across the yard and he was-- I said, "Hey, Bud, how'd you sleep?" He said, "Fine.
" I turned my back and, you know-- I turned my back.
Had this feed thing in my hands, and he was just on me.
Scott Pelley: He attacked you.
Creigh Deeds: Twi-- he-- he-- he got me twice, you know, stabbed me twice.
Scott Pelley: With a knife? Creigh Deeds: The state police told me they found a knife.
I turned around and said, "Bud, what's going on?" I said-- and he just kept coming at me.
I said, "Gus, I love you so much.
" I said, "Don't make this any worse than it is.
" He just kept coming at me.
And he just kept-- I mean-- you know-- I-- and I-- I was-- I was-- I was bleeding a good bit but, you know, he turned around and he started walking toward the house.
Deeds staggered away.
A neighbor found him.
A helicopter ambulance was called.
Creigh Deeds: When I was in the rescue squad or in the helicopter somewhere I'd heard about some, you know, some call came over the scanner that there'd been somebody with a gunshot wound to the head.
Scott Pelley: The gunshot victim was Gus.
Creigh Deeds: Oh, yeah.
Gus killed himself.
He had found or bought ammunition for that last rifle, the unloaded rifle, that Deeds had kept in the house.
Scott Pelley: You were describing the last night in which he was writing feverishly in this notebook before you said good night.
Did you go back and look at that? Creigh Deeds: I did.
Scott Pelley: What was he writing? Creigh Deeds: He had determined that I had to die, that I was an evil man-- that he was gonna execute me and then he was gonna go straight to heaven.
Creigh Deeds has now returned to the Virginia Senate.
He's introduced bills to, among other things, extend emergency custody in an ER from six to 24 hours and to create a computer database to list all the open psychiatric beds statewide.
Creigh Deeds: There's just a lack of equity in the way we as a society, and certainly as a government and insurance industry, medical industry, with the way we look at mental health issues.
Scott Pelley: Don't want to fund it.
Don't want to talk about it.
Don't want to see it.
Creigh Deeds: Absolutely.
That-- that's exactly right.
But the reality is, it's everywhere.
Scott Pelley: You've told us in this interview again and again that you don't want Gus to be defined by what happened in those few seconds on that day.
Creigh Deeds: I want people to remember the brilliant, friendly, loving kid that was Gus Deeds.
We'll use Gus, I hope, to address mental health and to make sure that other people don't have to suffer through this.
The state of Virginia is investigating why there was no hospital bed for Gus Deeds that night.
Nationwide, since 2008, states have cut $4.
5 billion from mental health care funding.
It may surprise you to learn that even in this time of stubbornly high unemployment there are hundreds of thousands of good jobs available that companies are finding hard to fill.
But one Wall Street veteran believes he's found an overlooked source of talent that could be the answer.
He started something called Year Up -- a year-long jobs training boot camp for some of the country's most disadvantaged young people.
And so far thousands of graduates are now working at companies like J.
P.
Morgan, American Express and Facebook.
The result is that many of the country's most powerful CEOs are finding that they can do well by also doing good.
[Teacher: 1, 2, 3 Kids: Opportunity starts with me!.]
For these students it's Day One of corporate boot camp.
[Teacher: So let's make sure these are up and running.
Teacher: Put your papers down.
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Crash courses on everything from building and maintaining computers, to the basics of accounting and balance sheets.
[Teacher: 18 minutes go!.]
They will learn to work together and try to overcome generations of endemic poverty.
[Teacher: Your success here is yours.
Teacher: Now you go to the interview what do you need to use?.]
They must learn not just business and technical skills but social skills.
[Teacher: Why is that a good handshake? Student: Strong.
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And work hard enough to build the foundation of a career.
[Teacher: What is a better way to make a connection with someone?.]
Don't let all the suits and ties fool you.
Almost everyone at Year Up has faced almost unimaginable hardship in getting here.
Poverty, drugs, foster care, men's and women's shelters-you name it.
Gerald Chertavian: We are going into a professional skills course.
This all out corporate training blitz is the brainchild of Gerald Chertavian -- a Wall Street veteran who believes that he's discovered an untapped source of talent among the poorest in the country.
Gerald Chertavian: A majority of the young adults growing up in isolated poverty, in our inner cities, want opportunity, want to be challenged, want to be held to higher expectations, and are motivated to actually get a good job.
They haven't had any exposure as to how do you do that.
Morley Safer: Yet, to a good part of the population, those people are invisible.
Gerald Chertavian: Absolutely invisible.
It so saddens me if someone would see our young adult on the street, and rather than think, "That's my next best employee," they clutch their wallet.
And that happens.
And part of this perception change is if enough young people see our students working the best companies, they'll change perception.
Changing perception started with this kid, David Heredia.
The two met in 1988 through the Big Brothers program as Chertavian was just beginning his Wall Street career.
Heredia lived in one of the most dangerous housing projects in New York.
Gerald Chertavian: Having spent my Saturdays with him, in this housing development in New York, I saw-- that he w-- had all the potential, but didn't have the access and the opportunity.
And having seen that for three years close up, I realized this was wrong.
Chertavian helped Heredia through college but he wanted to do more.
So when he sold his tech company, he finally got the chance.
Using his own seed money, Chertavian began Year Up with just 22 students and a mission: create a year-long job boot camp that provides a pathway to good careers for young people who would otherwise never get the chance.
[Student: China's having like a shrinkage as far as their bonds are going down.
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Morley Safer: These are fairly complex subject they're dealing with.
Gerald Chertavian: Yes, absolutely.
He says the formula is simple.
For six months students choose to concentrate their training in financial operations or more often, computer technology.
[Teacher: You may see your BIOS coming up.]
Morley Safer: Why these two specific concentrations? Gerald Chertavian: So we look for areas that pay livable wages-- where there's growing demand, places where you can really earn a career.
Morley Safer: God.
I don't think-- I don't think I would last an hour at this.
Gerald Chertavian: I'm sure you'd be great at it.
President Obama: So this is what my hard drive looks like if I took it all apart.
Chertavian's approach caught the attention of President Obama who visited the Washington site.
President Obama: So what we wanted to do was highlight the fact that there are all kinds of people who succeed despite the obstacles.
And the White House is looking for ways of duplicating Year Up's results.
At first Chertavian says he had to beg companies to offer internships.
Now firms like J.
P.
Morgan are actually paying Year Up $23,000 dollars per intern.
CEO Jamie Dimon says the retail and technology divisions provide the firm with a well-trained pool of talent.
Jamie Dimon: Year Up gives them six months of intensive training to teach them basics.
So by the time they come here they kinda know what a job's gonna be like, they know what an internship is gonna be like, and they can kind of just keep on growin' in the job.
Morley Safer: Has that investment paid off for you? Jamie Dimon: It has.
One of the biggest expenses for a company is hiring people, or particularly-- in particular hiring the wrong people.
So if you end up with great, talented people who end up being permanent, full-time here, it pays off as an investment.
We-- I think it's important that programs like this have an end goal that's not-- it's-- that-- it's enlightened, it's not just philanthropy.
If it's just philanthropy they tend to fall apart over time.
[Teacher: We are asking you to acquire a skill so you can go work in corporate America.
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A key to Year Up's success Chertavian says is a relentless focus on networking and understanding office culture.
Morley Safer: Beyond the technical training, how important is the social skills part of this? Gerald Chertavian: We know you hire for skills, and fire for behavior-- in the work world.
And so, we have to make sure our young adults know the social codes, the social norms of working in an organization like a State Street, or a Bank of America, or a J.
P.
Morgan.
Each candidate is put through a rigorous application process where their backgrounds and more importantly their determination are carefully examined.
The only requirement is a high school diploma or GED.
[Social worker: You said he was in foster care.
Will he be stable for a year?.]
Social workers are on staff to help with the inevitable problems like unstable living conditions.
[Teacher: Year Up is a tool.
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During orientation everyone is encouraged to share their stories.
[Student: Since I was 12, I have been in group homes and foster homes.
Student: My mom and my dad spent all their time working and never got to talk to me so basically I was kinda raised by myself.
Teacher: What does this tell us about resilience? .]
And tap into the adversity and resilience that got them through the door in the first place.
[Teacher: We offer you the opportunity to do something for yourself and its going to be you the whole way.
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Jonathan Garcia is a graduate.
Raised in Harlem by a single mother who died when he was 14, Garcia is now doing computer technical support for the top executives at American Express including the chairman and CEO Ken Chenault.
Jonathan says getting accepted into Year Up saved his life.
Jonathan Garcia: Back then I had no ambition.
My ambition was just to make money now-- so I can eat tonight and tomorrow.
Morley Safer: How far away did Wall Street seem to you back then? Jonathan Garcia: Oh, it was nowhere near New York.
When a relative told him about Year Up he says at first he was skeptical.
Jonathan Garcia: So-- where I was born and raised, if it's too good to be true, it's most likely a scam.
But after noticing that everyone was very comfortable and very willing to help you succeed, as long as you have the drive, then, yeah.
I made it my business to be the top of my class.
[Student: Beta and Zeta are both optical.
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Students earn college credit and a stipend of a few hundred dollars a week.
Show up even a minute late to class or forget to turn in your homework and your pay is docked.
More than seven infractions and you're out.
[Teacher: How are you? Nice to meet you?.]
A quarter of each class doesn't make it.
Gerald Chertavian: So just teaching that no one cares why you're late.
No one cares the bus was slow or the subway was delayed, no one.
They only care that you show up on time every day, and you're reliable.
And if you are, companies will teach you what they-- what you don't know.
[Teacher: Good afternoon.
Class: Good afternoon!.]
The program culminates in a six-month internship at a Fortune 500 company.
[Teacher: The first person going to Goldman Sachs.
Tanisha Giddons.
Applause.
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Chertavian's formula has generated impressive results.
Year Up now has 12 sites across the country training 2,000 young people a year in financial operations and I.
T.
jobs.
After graduation 85 percent go to college or are hired full time.
Average starting salaries are $30,000 but with computer expertise can hit $50,000 a year or more.
Jay Hammonds: We take those reports For the past two years, Jay Hammonds has worked at Facebook's I.
T.
department.
Born to a drug addicted mother he was adopted as a baby by a family friend.
Jay Hammonds It was rough.
But at the same time, I knew nothing different.
For example, I had-- a cousin who, you know, grew up in the same neighborhood as me.
And he went down the wrong path.
And a few years later, he was killed.
And-- sorry.
Morley Safer: It's OK.
Jay Hammonds: At the time, it was just normal so I knew nothing different.
After high school he tried college but quickly ran out of money.
He says before Year Up he couldn't even get a job at a grocery store.
Jay Hammonds: I thought that would be, like, a great position for me coming outta high school.
And I applied three times and never got the job.
Morley Safer: Doing what? Jay Hammonds: A bagger-- Morley Safer: And that was the best you could? Jay Hammonds: It was the best I thought of at the time.
When he saw a Year Up flyer he jumped at the chance.
Jay Hammonds: You know, "You earn money? You get college credits? And, you know, I get an internship?" That was the biggest moment for me because I realized I've had potential.
And that taking this chance and them taking a chance on me, is gonna change my life.
And it has.
Morley Safer: It's no secret that Wall Street's image has been tarnished over the last couple of years.
Jamie Dimon: I-- I noticed, yeah.
Morley Safer: To what extent is this-- not just for J.
P.
Morgan but a lot of the firms.
Kind of window dressing showing that, we're philanthropic, we wanna show civic responsibility.
Jamie Dimon: I don't think if we wanna show it.
I think we are civically responsible.
We don't wanna drive successful people down, you wanna get people who don't have the opportunity, you wanna give 'em the opportunity.
And hopefully they become more successful.
American Express CEO Ken Chenault says Chertavian is filling a gap in the economy.
There is a shortage of well-trained people in the fields of technology and financial operations.
Ken Chenault: It's a win for the urban communities, it's a win for the students, and it's a win for our company.
We would not be doing this unless these students were active contributors as employees.
And they more than pull their weight.
Morley Safer: Can this be expanded on a kind of scale that would have a real effect nationally? Ken Chenault: This is a template that I think has demonstrated real success, measurable success.
And what needs to happen is the business community need to become more aware of the success that a range of companies have had.
So in order to duplicate that success nationally, Year Up has begun offering its program to community colleges like the nation's largest, Miami Dade.
The goal: to eventually train To Jonathan Garcia, his current job at American Express, he says, is just the beginning.
Jonathan Garcia: College is definitely important for me because I don't want to be the-- the technician that keeps on-- supporting the executives.
One day, I want to be the executive that's being supported.
Morley Safer: So you wanna be chairman of the board or what? Jonathan Garcia: Maybe one day.
But what I'm thinkin' about for now, it's the next position up.
And then we'll go from there.
Every now and then there are milestones and transitions worth noting and one of them is about to take place: the departure of Jay Leno from "The Tonight Show.
" According to a recent poll, Leno is one of the five most popular people on television, and soon he will no longer be on it.
It's a part of a demographic shift that is beginning to affect millions of baby boomers being pushed aside to make way for a younger generation.
The inevitable changing of the guard that also reflects a change in tastes, sensibilities and values.
As one of the country's most influential comedians, Leno has been part of the national conversation during four presidencies, and a central figure in one of the most bizarre television debacles of the past 20 years.
In 1992, we did our first interview with him when he was about to take over "The Tonight Show.
" Last month we sat down again with Jay and Mavis Leno, his wife of 33 years, to talk about everything that's happened, what Jay wants to do next, and his current state of mind.
Jay Leno: I always tell new people in show business.
I say, "Look, show business pays you a lot of money, because eventually you're gonna get screwed.
And when you get screwed, you will have this pile of money off to the side already.
" And they go, "OK, OK.
OK, you ready? You ready?" "I got screwed.
" "You got the pile of money?" "Yeah, I'm fine.
" I mean, that's the way it works.
I mean, you know, that's-- that's the way these things are.
That's the way it happens.
And no one knows it better than Jay Leno.
He's been in show business for more than 40 years, earned hundreds of millions of dollars and is more than familiar with getting screwed.
He almost never complains about it unless it's in the form of a joke.
[Jay Leno on "The Tonight Show:" In fact a couple of weeks ago President Obama called me told me personally if I like my current job I can keep my current job and I believed it.
I believed it.
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In 11 days Jay Leno will surrender "The Tonight Show" he inherited from Johnny Carson 22 years ago.
Like Carson he goes out on top, though not under circumstances of his choosing.
But he's survived in a cutthroat business largely on his own wits and talent.
Steve Kroft: It's just you, right? You don't have an agent? You don't have a manager? Jay Leno: No, I don't have an agent or a manager, but the nice thing is I get the unfiltered truth this way.
No one says, "Look, Leno sucks.
He stinks.
We want him out of here.
" "Jay, they're very happy with you, but they want you to change--" well-- well-- I get it right from the horse's mouth, you know? And that's-- that's what I prefer.
[Jay Leno on "The Tonight Show:" Did you paint that? Wow.
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He has never been the critics' favorite, particularly in New York and Los Angeles where some find him bland an unadventurous.
[Jay Leno on "The Tonight Show:" There's a controversy that won't go a way.
This "Duck Dynasty" thing gays are very upset with "Duck Dynasty" you know who is even more upset, gay ducks.
They are furious.
But neither has Leno gotten his due.
He's always had a feel for the audience in the middle of the country, and outside the major urban areas.
Steve Kroft: How did you do it? Jay Leno: Well, I think it's-- you're trying to appeal to the whole spectrum.
If you look at the monologue for every smart, insightful joke, there's a goofy joke and a silly joke and a fun joke then a clever joke.
That's the trick, you try to have something for everybody.
Steve Kroft: And it's worked for you? Jay Leno: Seems to.
But there's been plenty of turbulence along the way.
It began in 2004, when Conan O'Brien -- Leno's young heir apparent -- threatened to leave and go to Fox if NBC didn't promise to give him "The Tonight Show.
" The network agreed to what it hoped would be an orderly succession plan in which Conan would replace Leno in out.
Jay Leno: First time, I got blindsided.
Steve Kroft: What did they tell you? Jay Leno: Oh, "You're out.
You got-- you know, gonna go with this and ba, ba, ba.
" "Oh, OK.
" And I went, "OK.
" Steve Kroft: "You're out.
You're fired.
You got four more years.
" Jay Leno: Yeah, that was basically it, sure.
Steve Kroft: Did you ask them why they had decided to do this? Jay Leno: No.
Steve Kroft: You didn't? Jay Leno: No.
I mean, "Why?" No.
Steve Kroft: No, I don't mean like-- Jay Leno: "Why?" Steve Kroft: No, I mean-- Jay Leno: "Why are you doing this?" Steve Kroft: No, I mean, kind of like, "OK, so why? What's the--" Jay Leno: You know, you have a girl says-- Steve Kroft: "--logic behind this?" Jay Leno: --"I don't want to see you anymore.
" "Why?" You know? She doesn't want to see you anymore, OK? Steve Kroft: They didn't say that.
They said, "We-- we don't want to see you after four more years.
" Jay Leno: "You're fired four years from right now.
" I mean, isn't that hilarious? I mean, it's-- it's got-- what's more show bizzy than that? What's the funny-- "You're fired four years from now.
Get out in four years.
" But it wasn't funny for NBC four years later when it was time for Leno to go.
He was still a strong No.
1, and very much in demand.
Desperate to keep him from going to another network, and saddled with disastrous primetime ratings the network offered him a 10 o'clock time slot on its schedule.
[Jay Leno on "The Tonight Show:" People asking, "Oh, what are you going to do after the last show? Are you going to go on vacation that kind of stuff?" Actually I'm going to go to a secluded spot where no one can find me.
NBC primetime.
Of course we're not really leaving we're coming back at 10 in September.
I'll admit it's a gamble, it's a gamble I'm betting everything that NBC will still be around in three months -- that is not given.
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[Announcer: It's the Jay Leno Show.
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Leno's ten o'clock show tanked and so did the ratings of "The Tonight Show" with Conan O'Brien, which dropped out of first place.
NBC panicked when the network's affiliates began clamoring for Leno's return to his 11:30 time slot, and NBC agreed.
Jay Leno: I said, "Sure.
" I said at the time I was gonna do a half hour.
And I believe Conan was gonna follow later.
He didn't want to do that.
He quit.
And so they gave me the show back.
Steve Kroft: Were you surprised? Jay Leno: Stunned.
"Oh, all right.
All right, fine.
Yes.
" I-- I said, "Really?" What was supposed to be an orderly transition instead turned into an unscripted reality show that played out every night on late night television.
Conan O'Brien on "The Tonight Show": Hosting "The Tonight Show" has been fulfillment of a life long dream for me.
And I just want to say to the kids out there watching: You can do anything you want in life.
Unless Jay Leno wants to do it too.
Steve Kroft: You were the bad guy.
You were portrayed as being the bad guy.
Jay Leno: Yeah, I didn't quite understand that.
But I never chose to answer any of those things or make fun of any of the other people involved.
It's not my way.
And you just go and you be a comedian and you do what you do.
Mavis Leno: I'm sorry.
This is a subject I'm very, very angry about to this day.
Jay's wife Mavis was much more upset than her husband.
Mavis Leno: It made me angry because there was this perception that for some reason Jay had decided to give up the show.
It was like he gave the show to Conan and then he took it back.
That was not what happened, OK? That was not what happened.
Steve Kroft: There were a lot of people that felt you should have just-- a lotta people including Conan-- Jay Leno: Yeah.
Steve Kroft: --felt that you just sort of said-- should have gone off to ABC or to Fox or to someplace else and not-- Jay Leno: Well, you know something? NBC is my home.
Don't forget, back in 2004, I went into work one day and, "Hey, you lost your show.
" "What?" So suddenly it was taken from me, and then they said, "We wanna give it back to you.
" I said, "Fine.
" Steve Kroft: Did you try and talk NBC into getting rid of Conan so you could come back? Jay Leno: No, never.
I never in my wildest dreams thought that would happen, never.
It never occurred to me that they asked me to come back.
I thought he would do fine.
[Jay Leno on "The Tonight Show:" There's no place like home.
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On March 1, 2010, Jay Leno was back behind the desk at "The Tonight Show" and almost immediately back in first place.
[Jay Leno on "The Tonight Show:" Well health officials are now warning that pot smoking can cause apathy.
In fact, a recent poll shows that most pot smokers couldn't care less.
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Today, four years later "The Tonight Show" is still No.
1 in a crowded, highly competitive field that includes his chief rival David Letterman, Jimmy Kimmel, Conan, and Stephen Colbert.
And once again NBC is pushing Leno out in favor of a younger talentthis time Jimmy Fallon.
Steve Kroft: You would have liked to have stayed? Jay Leno: It's not my decision.
And I think I probably would have stayed if we didn't have-- an extremely qualified, young guy ready to jump in.
If they said, "Look, you're fired.
We don't know who we're gonna get.
We don't know what we're gonna put in there.
But anybody but you, we just want you out of--" I would be l-- hurt and offended.
But this makes perfect sense to me.
I understand this.
Steve Kroft: You would have preferred to stay? Jay Leno: Well, it's always nice to keep working.
Sure it is.
Sure it is.
But am I extremely grateful? Yeah.
Do I understand the circumstance-- yes, of course.
Steve Kroft: This is the part I don't understand.
I mean, you're still-- Jay Leno: Well, I-- Steve Kroft: No.
1.
Jay Leno: --I think because you have-- talented people will only wait so long before they get other opportunities.
And you don't want to lose that opportunity.
That makes sense to me.
And I thought Jimmy's been extremely gracious and polite.
Steve Kroft: You said all of the same things, exactly about Conan.
Jay Leno: Huh? Did I say the same things? Yeah, prob-- well, maybe I did, yeah.
Well, we'll see what happens.
Steve Kroft: You think you might get a call two years from now and say-- Jay Leno: No.
Steve Kroft: --you come back? Jay Leno: No, this is a lot different situation.
[Jay Leno: Boring auction and dinner set for Tuesday maybe.
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This time Leno says he sees the handwriting on the wall.
There is a generational and technological shift afoot with Twitter and social media that he is finding harder to relate to.
Jay Leno: I get it, you know? Johnny was 66 when he left.
I would be 64 when I leave.
And that's about right, you know? I really like Jimmy Fallon.
I think he's terrific.
You know, when I see him do a dance number with, you know, Justin Timberlake or somebody, I go, "I can't do that.
" Jay Leno: I think after a while, you know, I'm not gonna be that up on the latest Justin Bieber record when you're 64.
You know, whatever it might be, so-- Steve Kroft: Do you know what Justin Bieber's latest song is? Jay Leno: No, I know you do, but I-- no, I don't.
Steve Kroft: Do you get the sense or do you have a feeling now that things are starting to wind down? Has it kind of like sunk in? Jay Leno: Oh yeah.
I knew a couple of years ago things were winding downsure but this is my second time doing this, so -- this is my second time winding down, so you get quite used to it.
Yeah.
[Jay Leno: How bout that snow storm back eastNew England whiter than a Paula Deen Christmas.
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The staff is already working on his latest farewell show February 6th.
But what everyone wants to know is what is Jay Leno going to do with himself when all of this is over.
He says he expects to spend more time with Mavis and puttering around his garages, which occupy two large hangers at the Burbank airport, and house one of the country's best collections of classic cars and motorcycles.
Most of them have been restored by Leno and a small staff.
And each car and motorcycle has its own unique story.
Steve Kroft: Do you drive any of these cars? Jay Leno: No, they're all-- every car here is on the road.
Every car here is licensed and you can hop in and go for a ride in any one of 'em.
This battery-powered car goes back to the turn of the last century.
Steve Kroft: Wow.
Like a Tesla.
Jay Leno: There were charging stations all over New York, 1907, 1908, 1909 Leno does a weekly webcast out of the garage and the day we were there, Tim Allen, another car obsessed comedian dropped by for the taping and a tour.
I'd been there 22 years ago, it's still Leno's only known outside interest.
Steve Kroft: It's much s-- much bigger now.
It's a much bigger garage.
But are you doing anything else? I mean, have you-- in the last Jay Leno: You mean like of the symphony or something Steve Kroft: There's been no emotional growth? Is that your-- what you're telling me? Jay Leno: No emotional growth? How do you mean? In what-terms? Steve Kroft: I mean- Tim Allen: Ooh, look at the time.
Maybe I'll step over here.
Steve Kroft: You haven't branched out.
You haven't, like, wanted to do new things with your time, with your life? Jay Leno: Well, I t-- t-- each-- each project is a new thing.
I mean, it depends- Tim Allen: This is getting uncomfortable.
Jay Leno: --I'm not sure what that means.
Grand as all this is no one really believes it's going to fill the void left by "The Tonight Show.
" And Leno acknowledges that there are no shortages of opportunities for him Steve Kroft: You're a workaholic.
What are you going to do? Jay Leno: I don't know what I'll do.
Will I do another late night show to go against any of these people? No.
No, that-- no.
You can't recreate what we had at "The Tonight Show.
" That was a 22-year moment in time.
It was fantastic.
And I loved it.
Would I like to do things with-- oh, I don't know, History Channel? Yeah, I think that would be fun to do.
Steve Kroft: So you're going to the History Channel? Can we go with that? Jay Leno: No, no, no, I'm not going to the History Channel.
But I really like being a comedian.
I mean, I like going on the road.
It's really fun making people laugh, you know? His first gig is February 7th in Florida, the day after his swan song.
Last year, Leno says he did more than 100 stand-up performances in addition to his Tonight Show duties and that doesn't include his regular gig at the Hermosa Beach Comedy and Magic Club.
Jay Leno: I've been here every Sunday night since 1978.
So it's probably safe to assume this will continue.
You know, this club is good because-- Steve Kroft: Do you have a contract? Jay Leno: No, no.
There's no contract.
It's a real audience to test what works and in a real situation.
[Jay Leno: Oh I'm on right now.
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Jay Leno: What's more fun? And when it's successful, it's very rewarding, There really is no greater satisfaction than the adulation and respect of other human beings.
[Jay Leno: How's the crowd? Comedian: Good crowd.
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Jay Leno: I get that every day.
Every day someone goes (CLAPS)-- well, thank you very much, well, thank you, thank you.
Most people don't get that in their jobs, you know? Every day I walk out and I get that on my job and it's-- it's very rewarding and I don't take it for granted and it's a lotta fun.
Announcer: Here he is right now.
Mr.
Jay Leno, everybody.
Jay LenoLeno
Gus Deeds was 24 years old and had been struggling with mental illness.
He and his father had been in an emergency room just hours before the attack but didn't get the help that they needed.
The story of what went wrong with his medical care exposes a problem in the way that America handles mental health.
It's a failure that came to the fore with the murders at Sandy Hook Elementary School.
The vast majority of mental patients are not violent.
But this is a story about the fraction who are a danger to themselves or others.
Parents of mentally ill children in crisis often find, as Sen.
Deeds did, that they have nowhere to go.
Creigh Deeds bears the scars of this failure on his face, his body and his soul.
Creigh Deeds: I really don't want Gus to be defined by his illness.
I don't want Gus to be defined by what happened on the 19th.
Gus was a great kid.
He was a perfect son.
It's clear the system failed.
It's clear that it failed Gus.
It killed Gus.
We met Creigh Deeds four weeks after the attack.
He was still distraught.
But he told us his story was a warning that could not wait.
Scott Pelley: What would have saved Gus? Creigh Deeds: If he could have been hospitalized that night, they could have gotten him medicated, and I could have worked to get Gus in some sort of long term care.
This is Gus Deeds when he was 20 years old, a talented musician on the Dean's List at the College of William and Mary.
Creigh Deeds: Gus, when he turned 20, I was running for governor.
He wanted to come and so he took the fall of 2009 to be with me and those are some of the best memories of my life is having him with me there.
But after the campaign, for no reason anyone could see, Gus Deeds stopped taking care of himself and became paranoid, obsessive, anti-social.
He dropped out and couldn't keep a job.
In was so worried that Gus would kill himself Deeds told us he got rid of all of the guns in their rural farmhouse-except one hunting rifle that had no ammunition.
Later, with medication, Gus returned to William and Mary until last fall.
Creigh Deeds: Gus had posted weird things on his Facebook page about-- you know, how the professors were ganging up against him.
And he was gonna start boycotting class.
It was pretty clear to me that he wasn't taking medicine.
I told Gus that he and I needed to talk to somebody together.
That's when Deeds discovered that "talking to somebody," getting treatment, is harder in mental health than any other kind of medicine.
In the decades after the 1960s most large mental institutions were closed.
It was thought that patients would get better treatment back in their communities.
But adequate local facilities were never built.
The number of beds available to psychiatric patients in America dropped from more than half a million to fewer than with one option: the emergency room.
Brian Geyser: You know, every day, we have into our emergency department, kids who wanna kill themselves, who've tried to kill themselves, who've tried to kill somebody else.
Brian Geyser is a nurse practitioner we met in the emergency department of Yale New Haven Hospital in Connecticut- it's one of the best in the nation in psychiatry.
Brian Geyser: We have 52 psychiatric beds here at Yale.
And right now, all 52 are full.
And so the seven kids that are here in the emergency room are waiting for an open bed.
Scott Pelley: How long will they wait? Brian Geyser: Five of them have been here three days already.
Most every day the beds are full of patients in crisis.
Seventeen-year-old Tyler Wrightington was waiting in the ER.
He had just slashed his face with a knife.
Scott Pelley: You hear voices? Tyler Wrightington: Yes.
A new voice came about a year ago.
And he, well, I call it a he, 'cause it was more of a deeper voice.
But he ended up telling me to hurt myself and making me find ways to hurt myself.
Scott Pelley: Do the voices ever tell you to hurt someone else? Tyler Wrightington: Only once, and that was at school.
And they and that was when I got admitted into the hospital.
'Cause I was actually considering hurting the people around me.
And I was, I was like, "This ain't me.
This is not what I wanna do.
" Tyler's dad, Ernie Wrightington, had called a psychiatrist that week but couldn't get an appointment for three months.
There's a national shortage of psychiatrists.
Scott Pelley: Why is there not another option for you? Ernie Wrightington: This has always been our only option.
Scott Pelley: The emergency room.
Ernie Wrightington: The emergency room, yeah.
Because the, we know that when we come here, they take the time to take care of him.
They sit and watch him, make sure he's OK.
But OK usually means- OK for the moment.
Typically, insurance companies pay for this care only as long as the patients are - quote -- at "imminent risk" of harming themselves or others.
Brian Geyser: Some insurance companies will give us a couple of days, a few days before they ask us to call them back to get reauthorization for the admission.
Some of them are every single day that we have to call.
And so usually, you know, we're talking about, you know, three to four days, and the insurance companies are saying, "All right, you know, it's time.
Let's get this kid out.
" Scott Pelley: Because they're not going to kill themselves or someone else right now? Brian Geyser: Right now, yeah.
Many patients need care for months or years.
But there are few facilities of that kind, they're expensive, and often insurance won't cover them.
So kids in crisis spin in the emergency room's revolving door.
Brian Geyser: We need to be able to set up a system where we follow these kids into the community, we follow the families, we make sure that they have a safety net, and somebody's watching them and monitoring them because, you know, it could be next month, it could be six months from now, and the child will do something again, but if they are not hooked into a system that is watching them, taking care of them, then we could have problems on our hands.
Scott Pelley: How many of you have had to take your child to the emergency room? Everybody.
Scott Pelley How many times? Mary Jo Andrews: I can't count.
Meg Clancy: I couldn't count.
Seven Connecticut mothers, including Mary Jo Andrews, Meg Clancy, and Dee Orsi told us about their ER crises and battles over insurance.
Dee Orsi: My daughter, after spending, she was eight old at the time, spending 12 days in the hospital they told me she was ready to come home.
By Friday morning we were in the psychiatrist's office for her follow up appointment.
She was seeing blood dripping from the walls.
There were statues telling her to kill me and she was ready for discharge three days earlier.
Meg Clancy: We had one with an insurance company.
They wanted to discharge my daughter.
She needed to stay where she was safe and the insurance company would not pay and so I was told by our social worker in the hospital that if I gave my daughter up to Department of Children and Families, that then she would have insurance coverage through the state and she would be allowed to stay.
Scott Pelley: Wait a minute.
Give-- give-- Meg Clancy: Give her up.
Scott Pelley: Give her up to the state? Meg Clancy: Correct.
Give her up to the state.
Scott Pelley: And you said what? Meg Clancy: Absolutely not.
They formed this support group because so few people understand their troubles.
For example, they share the names of contractors to repair walls or remove doors.
Their children punch holes in the dry wall and can't be allowed to lock themselves in a room.
Scott Pelley: What is the difference between being the mother of a child who has mental illness and the mother of a child who might have heart disease or cancer? Meg Clancy: Sympathy.
Being in Connecticut, they watched the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary with more insight than most.
Referring to the killer's mother one of them told us, if Nancy Lanza had a health care plan for her son, "she couldn't have made it work.
" Mary Jo Andrews: There's really no place after the hospital so the kids end up coming back home right where the situation started.
And you know, the psychiatrists and the hospital will say, "You're right, the system is broken" and I remember at one discharge I refused to sign the discharge paper because I wasn't going to agree that it was appropriate.
Scott Pelley: They discharged your child anyway? Mary Jo Andrews: Oh yeah, yes.
That is essentially what happened to Creigh Deeds in Virginia last November.
But his effort was further complicated by the fact that his son Gus was an adult, over 18-and Gus didn't want treatment.
Deeds had to get a court order and sheriff's deputies to take Gus to the ER.
A state law, designed to protect patients' rights, meant that the court order would expire in only six hours.
That's all they had to find a hospital that would admit him.
Creigh Deeds: Whole afternoon, Gus didn't sit down.
He paced the floor.
He'd look at me.
He'd smile.
And I just had this sinking feeling that he wasn't gonna be hospitalized.
Scott Pelley: And if you didn't find a hospital bed in six hours, Gus was comin' home.
Creigh Deeds: He was coming home.
And I was concerned that if he came home, there would, there was gonna be a crisis.
A representative of the county agency that manages mental health care told Deeds that he couldn't find a hospital with a psychiatric bed appropriate for Gus' case.
Scott Pelley: You're concerned that your son is suicidal-- the clock has run out on the emergency room and he comes in and says, "Sorry, you've gotta leave?" Creigh Deeds: Well, the-- he said that Gus wasn't suicidal.
I guess he'd made-- Scott Pelley: Based on his evaluation.
Creigh Deeds: His evaluation that Gus wasn't suicidal.
Scott Pelley: What did you say to him, in leaving--the emergency room? Creigh Deeds: I said, "The system failed my son tonight.
" There was no place to go but home.
Creigh Deeds: And he sat at one end of the dining room table.
I sat at the other end.
I ate my food, and he just was writing furiously in this journal he kept.
Not much conversation, and-- I said, "Good night, Bud.
" I didn't know what was gonna happen.
But, the next morning, you know, I felt like there'd be a confrontation but I didn't I had no reason to think there'd be violence.
And-- but, you know, I got ready for work and I went out to the barn to feed the horses and Gus was coming across the yard and he was-- I said, "Hey, Bud, how'd you sleep?" He said, "Fine.
" I turned my back and, you know-- I turned my back.
Had this feed thing in my hands, and he was just on me.
Scott Pelley: He attacked you.
Creigh Deeds: Twi-- he-- he-- he got me twice, you know, stabbed me twice.
Scott Pelley: With a knife? Creigh Deeds: The state police told me they found a knife.
I turned around and said, "Bud, what's going on?" I said-- and he just kept coming at me.
I said, "Gus, I love you so much.
" I said, "Don't make this any worse than it is.
" He just kept coming at me.
And he just kept-- I mean-- you know-- I-- and I-- I was-- I was-- I was bleeding a good bit but, you know, he turned around and he started walking toward the house.
Deeds staggered away.
A neighbor found him.
A helicopter ambulance was called.
Creigh Deeds: When I was in the rescue squad or in the helicopter somewhere I'd heard about some, you know, some call came over the scanner that there'd been somebody with a gunshot wound to the head.
Scott Pelley: The gunshot victim was Gus.
Creigh Deeds: Oh, yeah.
Gus killed himself.
He had found or bought ammunition for that last rifle, the unloaded rifle, that Deeds had kept in the house.
Scott Pelley: You were describing the last night in which he was writing feverishly in this notebook before you said good night.
Did you go back and look at that? Creigh Deeds: I did.
Scott Pelley: What was he writing? Creigh Deeds: He had determined that I had to die, that I was an evil man-- that he was gonna execute me and then he was gonna go straight to heaven.
Creigh Deeds has now returned to the Virginia Senate.
He's introduced bills to, among other things, extend emergency custody in an ER from six to 24 hours and to create a computer database to list all the open psychiatric beds statewide.
Creigh Deeds: There's just a lack of equity in the way we as a society, and certainly as a government and insurance industry, medical industry, with the way we look at mental health issues.
Scott Pelley: Don't want to fund it.
Don't want to talk about it.
Don't want to see it.
Creigh Deeds: Absolutely.
That-- that's exactly right.
But the reality is, it's everywhere.
Scott Pelley: You've told us in this interview again and again that you don't want Gus to be defined by what happened in those few seconds on that day.
Creigh Deeds: I want people to remember the brilliant, friendly, loving kid that was Gus Deeds.
We'll use Gus, I hope, to address mental health and to make sure that other people don't have to suffer through this.
The state of Virginia is investigating why there was no hospital bed for Gus Deeds that night.
Nationwide, since 2008, states have cut $4.
5 billion from mental health care funding.
It may surprise you to learn that even in this time of stubbornly high unemployment there are hundreds of thousands of good jobs available that companies are finding hard to fill.
But one Wall Street veteran believes he's found an overlooked source of talent that could be the answer.
He started something called Year Up -- a year-long jobs training boot camp for some of the country's most disadvantaged young people.
And so far thousands of graduates are now working at companies like J.
P.
Morgan, American Express and Facebook.
The result is that many of the country's most powerful CEOs are finding that they can do well by also doing good.
[Teacher: 1, 2, 3 Kids: Opportunity starts with me!.]
For these students it's Day One of corporate boot camp.
[Teacher: So let's make sure these are up and running.
Teacher: Put your papers down.
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Crash courses on everything from building and maintaining computers, to the basics of accounting and balance sheets.
[Teacher: 18 minutes go!.]
They will learn to work together and try to overcome generations of endemic poverty.
[Teacher: Your success here is yours.
Teacher: Now you go to the interview what do you need to use?.]
They must learn not just business and technical skills but social skills.
[Teacher: Why is that a good handshake? Student: Strong.
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And work hard enough to build the foundation of a career.
[Teacher: What is a better way to make a connection with someone?.]
Don't let all the suits and ties fool you.
Almost everyone at Year Up has faced almost unimaginable hardship in getting here.
Poverty, drugs, foster care, men's and women's shelters-you name it.
Gerald Chertavian: We are going into a professional skills course.
This all out corporate training blitz is the brainchild of Gerald Chertavian -- a Wall Street veteran who believes that he's discovered an untapped source of talent among the poorest in the country.
Gerald Chertavian: A majority of the young adults growing up in isolated poverty, in our inner cities, want opportunity, want to be challenged, want to be held to higher expectations, and are motivated to actually get a good job.
They haven't had any exposure as to how do you do that.
Morley Safer: Yet, to a good part of the population, those people are invisible.
Gerald Chertavian: Absolutely invisible.
It so saddens me if someone would see our young adult on the street, and rather than think, "That's my next best employee," they clutch their wallet.
And that happens.
And part of this perception change is if enough young people see our students working the best companies, they'll change perception.
Changing perception started with this kid, David Heredia.
The two met in 1988 through the Big Brothers program as Chertavian was just beginning his Wall Street career.
Heredia lived in one of the most dangerous housing projects in New York.
Gerald Chertavian: Having spent my Saturdays with him, in this housing development in New York, I saw-- that he w-- had all the potential, but didn't have the access and the opportunity.
And having seen that for three years close up, I realized this was wrong.
Chertavian helped Heredia through college but he wanted to do more.
So when he sold his tech company, he finally got the chance.
Using his own seed money, Chertavian began Year Up with just 22 students and a mission: create a year-long job boot camp that provides a pathway to good careers for young people who would otherwise never get the chance.
[Student: China's having like a shrinkage as far as their bonds are going down.
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Morley Safer: These are fairly complex subject they're dealing with.
Gerald Chertavian: Yes, absolutely.
He says the formula is simple.
For six months students choose to concentrate their training in financial operations or more often, computer technology.
[Teacher: You may see your BIOS coming up.]
Morley Safer: Why these two specific concentrations? Gerald Chertavian: So we look for areas that pay livable wages-- where there's growing demand, places where you can really earn a career.
Morley Safer: God.
I don't think-- I don't think I would last an hour at this.
Gerald Chertavian: I'm sure you'd be great at it.
President Obama: So this is what my hard drive looks like if I took it all apart.
Chertavian's approach caught the attention of President Obama who visited the Washington site.
President Obama: So what we wanted to do was highlight the fact that there are all kinds of people who succeed despite the obstacles.
And the White House is looking for ways of duplicating Year Up's results.
At first Chertavian says he had to beg companies to offer internships.
Now firms like J.
P.
Morgan are actually paying Year Up $23,000 dollars per intern.
CEO Jamie Dimon says the retail and technology divisions provide the firm with a well-trained pool of talent.
Jamie Dimon: Year Up gives them six months of intensive training to teach them basics.
So by the time they come here they kinda know what a job's gonna be like, they know what an internship is gonna be like, and they can kind of just keep on growin' in the job.
Morley Safer: Has that investment paid off for you? Jamie Dimon: It has.
One of the biggest expenses for a company is hiring people, or particularly-- in particular hiring the wrong people.
So if you end up with great, talented people who end up being permanent, full-time here, it pays off as an investment.
We-- I think it's important that programs like this have an end goal that's not-- it's-- that-- it's enlightened, it's not just philanthropy.
If it's just philanthropy they tend to fall apart over time.
[Teacher: We are asking you to acquire a skill so you can go work in corporate America.
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A key to Year Up's success Chertavian says is a relentless focus on networking and understanding office culture.
Morley Safer: Beyond the technical training, how important is the social skills part of this? Gerald Chertavian: We know you hire for skills, and fire for behavior-- in the work world.
And so, we have to make sure our young adults know the social codes, the social norms of working in an organization like a State Street, or a Bank of America, or a J.
P.
Morgan.
Each candidate is put through a rigorous application process where their backgrounds and more importantly their determination are carefully examined.
The only requirement is a high school diploma or GED.
[Social worker: You said he was in foster care.
Will he be stable for a year?.]
Social workers are on staff to help with the inevitable problems like unstable living conditions.
[Teacher: Year Up is a tool.
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During orientation everyone is encouraged to share their stories.
[Student: Since I was 12, I have been in group homes and foster homes.
Student: My mom and my dad spent all their time working and never got to talk to me so basically I was kinda raised by myself.
Teacher: What does this tell us about resilience? .]
And tap into the adversity and resilience that got them through the door in the first place.
[Teacher: We offer you the opportunity to do something for yourself and its going to be you the whole way.
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Jonathan Garcia is a graduate.
Raised in Harlem by a single mother who died when he was 14, Garcia is now doing computer technical support for the top executives at American Express including the chairman and CEO Ken Chenault.
Jonathan says getting accepted into Year Up saved his life.
Jonathan Garcia: Back then I had no ambition.
My ambition was just to make money now-- so I can eat tonight and tomorrow.
Morley Safer: How far away did Wall Street seem to you back then? Jonathan Garcia: Oh, it was nowhere near New York.
When a relative told him about Year Up he says at first he was skeptical.
Jonathan Garcia: So-- where I was born and raised, if it's too good to be true, it's most likely a scam.
But after noticing that everyone was very comfortable and very willing to help you succeed, as long as you have the drive, then, yeah.
I made it my business to be the top of my class.
[Student: Beta and Zeta are both optical.
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Students earn college credit and a stipend of a few hundred dollars a week.
Show up even a minute late to class or forget to turn in your homework and your pay is docked.
More than seven infractions and you're out.
[Teacher: How are you? Nice to meet you?.]
A quarter of each class doesn't make it.
Gerald Chertavian: So just teaching that no one cares why you're late.
No one cares the bus was slow or the subway was delayed, no one.
They only care that you show up on time every day, and you're reliable.
And if you are, companies will teach you what they-- what you don't know.
[Teacher: Good afternoon.
Class: Good afternoon!.]
The program culminates in a six-month internship at a Fortune 500 company.
[Teacher: The first person going to Goldman Sachs.
Tanisha Giddons.
Applause.
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Chertavian's formula has generated impressive results.
Year Up now has 12 sites across the country training 2,000 young people a year in financial operations and I.
T.
jobs.
After graduation 85 percent go to college or are hired full time.
Average starting salaries are $30,000 but with computer expertise can hit $50,000 a year or more.
Jay Hammonds: We take those reports For the past two years, Jay Hammonds has worked at Facebook's I.
T.
department.
Born to a drug addicted mother he was adopted as a baby by a family friend.
Jay Hammonds It was rough.
But at the same time, I knew nothing different.
For example, I had-- a cousin who, you know, grew up in the same neighborhood as me.
And he went down the wrong path.
And a few years later, he was killed.
And-- sorry.
Morley Safer: It's OK.
Jay Hammonds: At the time, it was just normal so I knew nothing different.
After high school he tried college but quickly ran out of money.
He says before Year Up he couldn't even get a job at a grocery store.
Jay Hammonds: I thought that would be, like, a great position for me coming outta high school.
And I applied three times and never got the job.
Morley Safer: Doing what? Jay Hammonds: A bagger-- Morley Safer: And that was the best you could? Jay Hammonds: It was the best I thought of at the time.
When he saw a Year Up flyer he jumped at the chance.
Jay Hammonds: You know, "You earn money? You get college credits? And, you know, I get an internship?" That was the biggest moment for me because I realized I've had potential.
And that taking this chance and them taking a chance on me, is gonna change my life.
And it has.
Morley Safer: It's no secret that Wall Street's image has been tarnished over the last couple of years.
Jamie Dimon: I-- I noticed, yeah.
Morley Safer: To what extent is this-- not just for J.
P.
Morgan but a lot of the firms.
Kind of window dressing showing that, we're philanthropic, we wanna show civic responsibility.
Jamie Dimon: I don't think if we wanna show it.
I think we are civically responsible.
We don't wanna drive successful people down, you wanna get people who don't have the opportunity, you wanna give 'em the opportunity.
And hopefully they become more successful.
American Express CEO Ken Chenault says Chertavian is filling a gap in the economy.
There is a shortage of well-trained people in the fields of technology and financial operations.
Ken Chenault: It's a win for the urban communities, it's a win for the students, and it's a win for our company.
We would not be doing this unless these students were active contributors as employees.
And they more than pull their weight.
Morley Safer: Can this be expanded on a kind of scale that would have a real effect nationally? Ken Chenault: This is a template that I think has demonstrated real success, measurable success.
And what needs to happen is the business community need to become more aware of the success that a range of companies have had.
So in order to duplicate that success nationally, Year Up has begun offering its program to community colleges like the nation's largest, Miami Dade.
The goal: to eventually train To Jonathan Garcia, his current job at American Express, he says, is just the beginning.
Jonathan Garcia: College is definitely important for me because I don't want to be the-- the technician that keeps on-- supporting the executives.
One day, I want to be the executive that's being supported.
Morley Safer: So you wanna be chairman of the board or what? Jonathan Garcia: Maybe one day.
But what I'm thinkin' about for now, it's the next position up.
And then we'll go from there.
Every now and then there are milestones and transitions worth noting and one of them is about to take place: the departure of Jay Leno from "The Tonight Show.
" According to a recent poll, Leno is one of the five most popular people on television, and soon he will no longer be on it.
It's a part of a demographic shift that is beginning to affect millions of baby boomers being pushed aside to make way for a younger generation.
The inevitable changing of the guard that also reflects a change in tastes, sensibilities and values.
As one of the country's most influential comedians, Leno has been part of the national conversation during four presidencies, and a central figure in one of the most bizarre television debacles of the past 20 years.
In 1992, we did our first interview with him when he was about to take over "The Tonight Show.
" Last month we sat down again with Jay and Mavis Leno, his wife of 33 years, to talk about everything that's happened, what Jay wants to do next, and his current state of mind.
Jay Leno: I always tell new people in show business.
I say, "Look, show business pays you a lot of money, because eventually you're gonna get screwed.
And when you get screwed, you will have this pile of money off to the side already.
" And they go, "OK, OK.
OK, you ready? You ready?" "I got screwed.
" "You got the pile of money?" "Yeah, I'm fine.
" I mean, that's the way it works.
I mean, you know, that's-- that's the way these things are.
That's the way it happens.
And no one knows it better than Jay Leno.
He's been in show business for more than 40 years, earned hundreds of millions of dollars and is more than familiar with getting screwed.
He almost never complains about it unless it's in the form of a joke.
[Jay Leno on "The Tonight Show:" In fact a couple of weeks ago President Obama called me told me personally if I like my current job I can keep my current job and I believed it.
I believed it.
.]
In 11 days Jay Leno will surrender "The Tonight Show" he inherited from Johnny Carson 22 years ago.
Like Carson he goes out on top, though not under circumstances of his choosing.
But he's survived in a cutthroat business largely on his own wits and talent.
Steve Kroft: It's just you, right? You don't have an agent? You don't have a manager? Jay Leno: No, I don't have an agent or a manager, but the nice thing is I get the unfiltered truth this way.
No one says, "Look, Leno sucks.
He stinks.
We want him out of here.
" "Jay, they're very happy with you, but they want you to change--" well-- well-- I get it right from the horse's mouth, you know? And that's-- that's what I prefer.
[Jay Leno on "The Tonight Show:" Did you paint that? Wow.
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He has never been the critics' favorite, particularly in New York and Los Angeles where some find him bland an unadventurous.
[Jay Leno on "The Tonight Show:" There's a controversy that won't go a way.
This "Duck Dynasty" thing gays are very upset with "Duck Dynasty" you know who is even more upset, gay ducks.
They are furious.
But neither has Leno gotten his due.
He's always had a feel for the audience in the middle of the country, and outside the major urban areas.
Steve Kroft: How did you do it? Jay Leno: Well, I think it's-- you're trying to appeal to the whole spectrum.
If you look at the monologue for every smart, insightful joke, there's a goofy joke and a silly joke and a fun joke then a clever joke.
That's the trick, you try to have something for everybody.
Steve Kroft: And it's worked for you? Jay Leno: Seems to.
But there's been plenty of turbulence along the way.
It began in 2004, when Conan O'Brien -- Leno's young heir apparent -- threatened to leave and go to Fox if NBC didn't promise to give him "The Tonight Show.
" The network agreed to what it hoped would be an orderly succession plan in which Conan would replace Leno in out.
Jay Leno: First time, I got blindsided.
Steve Kroft: What did they tell you? Jay Leno: Oh, "You're out.
You got-- you know, gonna go with this and ba, ba, ba.
" "Oh, OK.
" And I went, "OK.
" Steve Kroft: "You're out.
You're fired.
You got four more years.
" Jay Leno: Yeah, that was basically it, sure.
Steve Kroft: Did you ask them why they had decided to do this? Jay Leno: No.
Steve Kroft: You didn't? Jay Leno: No.
I mean, "Why?" No.
Steve Kroft: No, I don't mean like-- Jay Leno: "Why?" Steve Kroft: No, I mean-- Jay Leno: "Why are you doing this?" Steve Kroft: No, I mean, kind of like, "OK, so why? What's the--" Jay Leno: You know, you have a girl says-- Steve Kroft: "--logic behind this?" Jay Leno: --"I don't want to see you anymore.
" "Why?" You know? She doesn't want to see you anymore, OK? Steve Kroft: They didn't say that.
They said, "We-- we don't want to see you after four more years.
" Jay Leno: "You're fired four years from right now.
" I mean, isn't that hilarious? I mean, it's-- it's got-- what's more show bizzy than that? What's the funny-- "You're fired four years from now.
Get out in four years.
" But it wasn't funny for NBC four years later when it was time for Leno to go.
He was still a strong No.
1, and very much in demand.
Desperate to keep him from going to another network, and saddled with disastrous primetime ratings the network offered him a 10 o'clock time slot on its schedule.
[Jay Leno on "The Tonight Show:" People asking, "Oh, what are you going to do after the last show? Are you going to go on vacation that kind of stuff?" Actually I'm going to go to a secluded spot where no one can find me.
NBC primetime.
Of course we're not really leaving we're coming back at 10 in September.
I'll admit it's a gamble, it's a gamble I'm betting everything that NBC will still be around in three months -- that is not given.
.]
[Announcer: It's the Jay Leno Show.
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Leno's ten o'clock show tanked and so did the ratings of "The Tonight Show" with Conan O'Brien, which dropped out of first place.
NBC panicked when the network's affiliates began clamoring for Leno's return to his 11:30 time slot, and NBC agreed.
Jay Leno: I said, "Sure.
" I said at the time I was gonna do a half hour.
And I believe Conan was gonna follow later.
He didn't want to do that.
He quit.
And so they gave me the show back.
Steve Kroft: Were you surprised? Jay Leno: Stunned.
"Oh, all right.
All right, fine.
Yes.
" I-- I said, "Really?" What was supposed to be an orderly transition instead turned into an unscripted reality show that played out every night on late night television.
Conan O'Brien on "The Tonight Show": Hosting "The Tonight Show" has been fulfillment of a life long dream for me.
And I just want to say to the kids out there watching: You can do anything you want in life.
Unless Jay Leno wants to do it too.
Steve Kroft: You were the bad guy.
You were portrayed as being the bad guy.
Jay Leno: Yeah, I didn't quite understand that.
But I never chose to answer any of those things or make fun of any of the other people involved.
It's not my way.
And you just go and you be a comedian and you do what you do.
Mavis Leno: I'm sorry.
This is a subject I'm very, very angry about to this day.
Jay's wife Mavis was much more upset than her husband.
Mavis Leno: It made me angry because there was this perception that for some reason Jay had decided to give up the show.
It was like he gave the show to Conan and then he took it back.
That was not what happened, OK? That was not what happened.
Steve Kroft: There were a lot of people that felt you should have just-- a lotta people including Conan-- Jay Leno: Yeah.
Steve Kroft: --felt that you just sort of said-- should have gone off to ABC or to Fox or to someplace else and not-- Jay Leno: Well, you know something? NBC is my home.
Don't forget, back in 2004, I went into work one day and, "Hey, you lost your show.
" "What?" So suddenly it was taken from me, and then they said, "We wanna give it back to you.
" I said, "Fine.
" Steve Kroft: Did you try and talk NBC into getting rid of Conan so you could come back? Jay Leno: No, never.
I never in my wildest dreams thought that would happen, never.
It never occurred to me that they asked me to come back.
I thought he would do fine.
[Jay Leno on "The Tonight Show:" There's no place like home.
.]
On March 1, 2010, Jay Leno was back behind the desk at "The Tonight Show" and almost immediately back in first place.
[Jay Leno on "The Tonight Show:" Well health officials are now warning that pot smoking can cause apathy.
In fact, a recent poll shows that most pot smokers couldn't care less.
.]
Today, four years later "The Tonight Show" is still No.
1 in a crowded, highly competitive field that includes his chief rival David Letterman, Jimmy Kimmel, Conan, and Stephen Colbert.
And once again NBC is pushing Leno out in favor of a younger talentthis time Jimmy Fallon.
Steve Kroft: You would have liked to have stayed? Jay Leno: It's not my decision.
And I think I probably would have stayed if we didn't have-- an extremely qualified, young guy ready to jump in.
If they said, "Look, you're fired.
We don't know who we're gonna get.
We don't know what we're gonna put in there.
But anybody but you, we just want you out of--" I would be l-- hurt and offended.
But this makes perfect sense to me.
I understand this.
Steve Kroft: You would have preferred to stay? Jay Leno: Well, it's always nice to keep working.
Sure it is.
Sure it is.
But am I extremely grateful? Yeah.
Do I understand the circumstance-- yes, of course.
Steve Kroft: This is the part I don't understand.
I mean, you're still-- Jay Leno: Well, I-- Steve Kroft: No.
1.
Jay Leno: --I think because you have-- talented people will only wait so long before they get other opportunities.
And you don't want to lose that opportunity.
That makes sense to me.
And I thought Jimmy's been extremely gracious and polite.
Steve Kroft: You said all of the same things, exactly about Conan.
Jay Leno: Huh? Did I say the same things? Yeah, prob-- well, maybe I did, yeah.
Well, we'll see what happens.
Steve Kroft: You think you might get a call two years from now and say-- Jay Leno: No.
Steve Kroft: --you come back? Jay Leno: No, this is a lot different situation.
[Jay Leno: Boring auction and dinner set for Tuesday maybe.
.]
This time Leno says he sees the handwriting on the wall.
There is a generational and technological shift afoot with Twitter and social media that he is finding harder to relate to.
Jay Leno: I get it, you know? Johnny was 66 when he left.
I would be 64 when I leave.
And that's about right, you know? I really like Jimmy Fallon.
I think he's terrific.
You know, when I see him do a dance number with, you know, Justin Timberlake or somebody, I go, "I can't do that.
" Jay Leno: I think after a while, you know, I'm not gonna be that up on the latest Justin Bieber record when you're 64.
You know, whatever it might be, so-- Steve Kroft: Do you know what Justin Bieber's latest song is? Jay Leno: No, I know you do, but I-- no, I don't.
Steve Kroft: Do you get the sense or do you have a feeling now that things are starting to wind down? Has it kind of like sunk in? Jay Leno: Oh yeah.
I knew a couple of years ago things were winding downsure but this is my second time doing this, so -- this is my second time winding down, so you get quite used to it.
Yeah.
[Jay Leno: How bout that snow storm back eastNew England whiter than a Paula Deen Christmas.
.]
The staff is already working on his latest farewell show February 6th.
But what everyone wants to know is what is Jay Leno going to do with himself when all of this is over.
He says he expects to spend more time with Mavis and puttering around his garages, which occupy two large hangers at the Burbank airport, and house one of the country's best collections of classic cars and motorcycles.
Most of them have been restored by Leno and a small staff.
And each car and motorcycle has its own unique story.
Steve Kroft: Do you drive any of these cars? Jay Leno: No, they're all-- every car here is on the road.
Every car here is licensed and you can hop in and go for a ride in any one of 'em.
This battery-powered car goes back to the turn of the last century.
Steve Kroft: Wow.
Like a Tesla.
Jay Leno: There were charging stations all over New York, 1907, 1908, 1909 Leno does a weekly webcast out of the garage and the day we were there, Tim Allen, another car obsessed comedian dropped by for the taping and a tour.
I'd been there 22 years ago, it's still Leno's only known outside interest.
Steve Kroft: It's much s-- much bigger now.
It's a much bigger garage.
But are you doing anything else? I mean, have you-- in the last Jay Leno: You mean like of the symphony or something Steve Kroft: There's been no emotional growth? Is that your-- what you're telling me? Jay Leno: No emotional growth? How do you mean? In what-terms? Steve Kroft: I mean- Tim Allen: Ooh, look at the time.
Maybe I'll step over here.
Steve Kroft: You haven't branched out.
You haven't, like, wanted to do new things with your time, with your life? Jay Leno: Well, I t-- t-- each-- each project is a new thing.
I mean, it depends- Tim Allen: This is getting uncomfortable.
Jay Leno: --I'm not sure what that means.
Grand as all this is no one really believes it's going to fill the void left by "The Tonight Show.
" And Leno acknowledges that there are no shortages of opportunities for him Steve Kroft: You're a workaholic.
What are you going to do? Jay Leno: I don't know what I'll do.
Will I do another late night show to go against any of these people? No.
No, that-- no.
You can't recreate what we had at "The Tonight Show.
" That was a 22-year moment in time.
It was fantastic.
And I loved it.
Would I like to do things with-- oh, I don't know, History Channel? Yeah, I think that would be fun to do.
Steve Kroft: So you're going to the History Channel? Can we go with that? Jay Leno: No, no, no, I'm not going to the History Channel.
But I really like being a comedian.
I mean, I like going on the road.
It's really fun making people laugh, you know? His first gig is February 7th in Florida, the day after his swan song.
Last year, Leno says he did more than 100 stand-up performances in addition to his Tonight Show duties and that doesn't include his regular gig at the Hermosa Beach Comedy and Magic Club.
Jay Leno: I've been here every Sunday night since 1978.
So it's probably safe to assume this will continue.
You know, this club is good because-- Steve Kroft: Do you have a contract? Jay Leno: No, no.
There's no contract.
It's a real audience to test what works and in a real situation.
[Jay Leno: Oh I'm on right now.
.]
Jay Leno: What's more fun? And when it's successful, it's very rewarding, There really is no greater satisfaction than the adulation and respect of other human beings.
[Jay Leno: How's the crowd? Comedian: Good crowd.
.]
Jay Leno: I get that every day.
Every day someone goes (CLAPS)-- well, thank you very much, well, thank you, thank you.
Most people don't get that in their jobs, you know? Every day I walk out and I get that on my job and it's-- it's very rewarding and I don't take it for granted and it's a lotta fun.
Announcer: Here he is right now.
Mr.
Jay Leno, everybody.
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