My Ghost Story (2010) s06e05 Episode Script
Haunting Grounds of Ireland
Archiga: THIS HOUSE HAS BECOME A NIGHTMARE FOR ME.
SOME SPIRIT IS THERE.
Delgado: WE'VE GOT VIDEO OF AN ORB ENTERING THE BACK OF ONE OF MY TEAM MEMBERS' HEAD.
Archiga: THAT REALLY SCARED THE [BLEEP.]
OUT OF ME.
Johnny: ALL OF A SUDDEN, THESE FACES STARTED COMING THROUGH.
STARTED CATCHING ALL THESE ORBS SHOWING UP.
THEY WOULD BE THERE ONE MOMENT, AND THE NEXT, THEY WERE GONE.
Cindy: MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING TO THIS HOUSE.
I'VE NEVER SEEN NOTHING LIKE THAT IN MY LIFE.
Dixon: I'M TAKING PICTURES.
I NOTICE SOMETHING STRANGE IN THE MIRROR.
I LOOKED AT THAT PICTURE, AND I THOUGHT, "OH, MY GOD.
I'VE CAUGHT AN APPARITION.
" IT WAS THE MOS EXCITING PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT I HAVE EVER CAPTURED.
Beattie: WE SAW ANOMALIES IN THE PICTURES THAT WE KNEW WEREN'T THERE AT THE TIME.
Wenger: IT LOOKED LIKE THE BEGINNINGS OF A MANIFESTATION OF A GHOST -- COULDN'T HAVE JUST BEEN A SHADOW FROM OUTSIDE.
THAT REALLY SHOOK ME UP.
Griffin: WE HAD JUST CAPTURED ONE OF THE BEST PIECES OF EVIDENCE THAT WOULD CONFIRM THAT THERE REALLY IS SOMETHING IN THAT ATTIC.
Moscatelli: I WANTED TO RUN OUT OF MY OWN HOUSE.
I KNEW SOMETHING BAD WAS GONNA HAPPEN.
Archiga: THEY WOULD HEAR VOICES, THEY WOULD SEE SHADOWS.
Delgado: WE'VE GOT VIDEO OF AN ORB ENTERING THE BACK OF ONE OF MY TEAM MEMBERS' HEAD.
Archiga: THAT REALLY SCARED THE HECK OUT OF ME.
MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I PURCHASED A RENTAL HOME IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.
ORIGINALLY, I PURCHASED THE HOME AS AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY.
THE HOUSE IS A THREE-BEDROOM, TWO-BATH HOUSE, I WOULD SAY ABOUT ON HALF AN ACRE, MADE IN THE '50s.
I HAD NO IDEA THAT THIS HOUSE MIGHT HAVE ANY PARANORMAL ACTIVITY AT ALL.
I GUESS THAT'S PROBABLY WHY [Chuckling.]
I GOT SUCH A GOOD DEAL ON IT.
THE FAMILY THAT I RENTED TO NEEDED SOME HELP, NEEDED TO MOVE INTO ANOTHER PLACE, AND I THOUGHT THIS WAS A PERFEC OPPORTUNITY FOR BOTH OF US.
EVERYBODY WAS HAPPY AT FIRST, AND THEN THEY STARTED BECOMING MISERABLE, THEY STARTED TELLING ME THAT THEY WOULD HEAR NOISES IN THE HOUSE, THEY WOULD HEAR VOICES, THEY WOULD SEE SHADOWS.
I STARTED THINKING THA THEY WERE GIVING ME EXCUSES -- WHY THEY'D BE LATE WITH THE RENT -- AND I THOUGH IT WAS A BUNCH OF SMOKE.
THE MAN THAT LIVED THERE BELIEVED THAT ONE OF HIS DAUGHTERS HAD A BOYFRIEND THAT WAS COMING IN SOMEHOW INTO THE HOUSE -- I GUESS TEENAGERS MESSING AROUND.
HE WOULD SEE THE PERSON OUTSIDE PASSING BY THE WINDOWS, AND HE WOULD RUN OUT THERE WITH HIS GUN AND HE WOULD NEVER SEE ANYTHING.
WHEN I HEAR THE STORY, I'M JUST THINKING, "NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO PRESEN THE PROPERTY AS BEING UNSAFE.
" EVENTUALLY, THE MAN BECAME VERY, VERY SICK.
HE'S GOING TO THE HOSPITAL.
NEXT THING, HE'S HAVING KIDNEY FAILURE.
FAST-FORWARD I A COUPLE OF MONTHS, AND HE WALKED OU ON HIS FAMILY COMPLETELY.
THE LADY THAT WAS LEFT BEHIND WITH ALL THE KIDS -- SHE HAD NO INCOME.
SHE EVENTUALLY HAD TO LEAVE THE PROPERTY.
I HAD TO EVICT HER.
THE TENANTS -- THEY'RE OUT.
MY MIND FRAME HAS CHANGED.
I DON'T WAN TO BE A LANDLORD NO MORE.
I'M GONNA FIX IT AND FLIP IT.
THE FIRST WORKERS I HAD TO COME AND CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY THEY JUST LEFT.
THEY DIDN'T EVEN GET PAID.
I NEVER HEARD FROM THEM AGAIN.
I BRING IN A SECOND GROUP OF WORKERS.
THAT'S WHERE IT REALLY GOT INTERESTING FOR ME.
I KNEW THESE PEOPLE.
THEY WERE REAL RELIGIOUS, JUST HONEST PEOPLE.
THEY STARTED EXPERIENCING THINGS INSIDE THE HOUSE.
THEY STARTED SAYING, WHEN THEY WERE PAINTING, THEY WOULD FEEL TUGS ON THEIR SHIRTS.
ONE OF THE WORKERS STARTED HEARING HIS NAME BEING CALLED OUT, SO HE ANSWERS.
HE HEARS HIS NAME BEING CALLED OUT AGAIN.
HE ANSWERS AGAIN.
THAT KIND OF SPOOKED ME.
THEY STARTED TELLING ME, "ALBERT, IT'S VERY HARD TO COMPLETE WORK IN YOUR HOUSE.
" THEY SHOWED ME CERTAIN PLACES IN THE HOUSE THAT THEY WOULD FIX, AND THE NEXT DAY, THE SAME PIECE WOULD BE BROKEN AGAIN.
AT THAT MOMENT, I START REALIZING THAT THERE IS SOMETHING DEFINITELY WRONG WITH THIS PLACE.
I HAVE A FRIEND NAMED JOHN WHO IS A PARANORMAL INVESTIGATOR THAT I'VE KNOWN FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS, SO I DECIDE TO GIVE HIM A CALL.
Delgado: I GO THE PHONE CALL FROM ALBERT, WHICH IS A FRIEND OF MINE, AND HE WANTED ME TO GO OU AND INVESTIGATE HIS HOUSE THAT WAS HAVING SPIRIT ACTIVITY.
WHEN WE FIRST ARRIVED AT ALBERT'S HOUSE, IT WAS A TYPICAL HOUSE -- OVERGROWN WEEDS, TRASH AROUND THE AREA, NOBODY LIVING THERE.
Archiga: THEY SHOW UP, I GIVE THEM A TOUR AROUND THE PROPERTY.
WHAT ASTONISHED ME WAS, A LADY THAT WAS A PART OF THEIR GROUP TOLD ME, "DO YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A MAN STANDING IN THE DOORWAY?" I IMMEDIATELY TURNED AND LOOKED TOWARDS THE DOORWAY.
THERE WAS NO MAN THERE THAT I COULD SEE.
AND SHE SAID, "HE'S A SPIRIT.
HE'S STANDING IN THE DOORWAY.
HE HAD THE AURA AROUND HIM LIKE HE WAS UPSET.
" IT SENT CHILLS THROUGH MY BODY.
I WAS FREAKED OUT BY THAT.
SO, AS JOHN WAS ABOU TO GO ABOUT HIS INVESTIGATION, THE NEIGHBOR SHOWED UP.
SHE STARTED MENTIONING MR.
GARZA, THE OLD MAN THAT OWNED THE PROPERTY PREVIOUSLY.
SHE WAS SAYING THAT HE WAS A MEAN OLD MAN AND THAT HE HATED PEOPLE AROUND HIS PROPERTY.
Delgado: KIDS PLAYING IN THE SIDEWALK -- HE WOULD RUN THEM OFF.
HE DIDN'T REALLY SPEAK TO ANY OF HIS NEIGHBORS AT ALL.
Archiga: AND IT KIND OF SCARED ME BECAUSE THE PSYCHIC HAD DESCRIBED THE SAME MAN THAT THE NEIGHBOR WAS DESCRIBING.
Delgado: I'M FIRST THINKING, "WHOSE SPIRI IS IN THE BUILDING?" AND THAT'S WHEN WE GO IN THERE AND TRY AND PUT A NAME, A FACE ON WHO MAY BE HAUNTING THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.
FIRST AREA WE INVESTIGATED WAS THE KITCHEN AREA.
WE DID A DOWSING-ROD SESSION, TRIED TO ESTABLISH COMMUNICATION WITH ANY SPIRITS THAT MAY BE IN THE HOUSE.
I ASKED THE SPIRI IF IT WAS A MALE OR FEMALE.
IT INDICATED THAT IT WAS A MALE SPIRIT THAT I WAS SPEAKING TO.
I BELIEVE THAT THE SPIRI WAS THE SPIRIT OF MR.
GARZA.
Archiga: THAT REALLY SCARED THEOUT OF ME.
SOME SPIRIT IS THERE, AND THERE'S REAL COMMUNICATION.
Delgado: ONE OF MY TEAM MEMBERS, PAUL, WAS TAKING STILL SHOTS IN THE BATHROOM AREA, AND HE HAPPENED TO POIN THE CAMERA TOWARD A MIRROR.
AND TO OUR AMAZEMENT, HE CAPTURED THE PHOTOGRAPH OF AN OLDER MAN WITH A BEARD IN THE MIRROR.
Archiga: I BELIEVE THAT PHOTO TO BE THE SPIRIT OF MR.
GARZA.
HE WAS A MISERABLE PERSON IN REAL LIFE, AND NOW HE JUST REFUSES TO LEAVE THE PROPERTY.
Delgado: AFTER LEAVING THE BATHROOM, WE WENT INTO THE BEDROOM AREA, AND I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
WE'VE GOT A VIDEO OF AN ORB ENTERING THE BACK OF ONE OF MY TEAM MEMBERS' HEAD.
WHEN WE PLAYED BACK THE VIDEO, IT WAS ACTUALLY SHOCKING.
Archiga: I KNEW AT THAT POIN THERE WAS SOMETHING SPIRITUAL GOING ON THERE.
Delgado: A SPIRIT ORB -- THE SPIRIT OF MR.
GARZA.
WE DECIDED TO DO A GHOST-BOX SESSION IN THE BEDROOM 'CAUSE IT WAS A HOTBED FOR ACTIVITY.
I WAS ACTUALLY SHOCKED WHEN I HEARD THE SPIRIT OF MR.
GARZA SPEAKING TO ME 'CAUSE IT COMPLETELY VALIDATED WHAT THE NEIGHBOR HAD TOLD US ABOUT A MR.
GARZA LIVING THERE.
Archiga: IT FLOORED ME.
CLEAR AS DAY, YOU COULD HEAR, "YES.
" Delgado: I ASKED, "ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPIRITS HERE WITH US?" I GOT A "MARIA.
" I WAS SHOCKED AT HEARING THAT.
Archiga: THE LADY REALLY JUST SENT ME OVER THE TOP.
Delgado: LATER THAT NIGHT, WE CAPTURED A FEMALE VOICE SAYING,"WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST SEE THAT ONE?" REFERRING TO MR.
GARZA.
IT WAS RIGHT NEXT TO ME.
I BELIEVE THE VOICE THAT SPOKE TO ME OUTSIDE OF THE BATHROOM WAS THE SPIRIT OF MARIA.
MARIA HAD SAID THA BECAUSE MY INVESTIGATOR HAD JUST CAPTURED THAT PICTURE OF MR.
GARZA IN THE MIRROR.
Archiga: IT -- IT SHOCKED ME.
Delgado: IT WAS GETTING LATE INTO THE NIGHT WHEN, ABRUPTLY, EVERYTHING JUST WENT QUIET IN THE HOUSE -- NO SPIRIT ACTIVITY AT ALL.
WE HAPPENED TO NOTICE THAT THERE ARE POWER LINES COMING FROM THE POWER STATION NEAR ALBERT'S HOUSE.
THE LINES GOT TURNED OFF ABOUT 11:00 AT NIGHT, AND WHAT A COINCIDENCE -- THE SAME TIME ALMOST ALL OUR SPIRIT ACTIVITY CEASED.
Archiga: JOHN BELIEVED THAT IT WAS THE POWER LINES THAT WERE FEEDING THE SPIRITUAL ENERGY.
Delgado: AND ALBERT'S HOUSE IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THESE POWER LINES -- MAYBE 15 FEET FROM THEM.
Archiga: I BELIEVE ALL THE EVIDENCE JOHN COLLECTED SHOWS YOU 100% THAT SPIRITS DO EXIST.
THEY ARE HERE AMONGST THE LIVING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO HELP THEM LEAVE, WHICH WOULD BE NICE IN MY CASE.
Delgado: I BELIEVE THE SPIRITS IN ALBERT'S HOUSE ARE MEAN SPIRITS, ESPECIALLY MR.
GARZA.
HE HAS RAN OFF EVERY TENAN THAT'S EVER LIVED IN THAT HOUSE, AND EVEN THE RENOVATION TEAM RAN OFF AND NEVER CAME BACK.
Archiga: THE PREVIOUS FAMILY THAT WAS LIVING THERE -- I FEEL REALLY, REALLY BAD FOR THEM.
I SAW THEM GO FROM BEING A PERFECTLY HAPPY FAMILY TO JUST A FAMILY TORN TO PIECES.
THIS HOUSE HAS DEFINITELY BECOME A NIGHTMARE FOR ME -- SIX MONTHS OF LOST PROFIT, OF ME PAYING THE MORTGAGE OUT OF MY POCKET, NO RENTERS, I CAN'T EVEN FINISH FIXING THE PLACE UP TO SELL IT, AND NOW I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF PEOPLE ARE GONNA WANT TO BUY I SINCE THERE'S SPIRITS LIVING IN IT ALREADY.
Griffin: I TURN AROUND AND I SEE THE CHANDELIER JUST SPINNING.
Moscatelli: I WANTED TO RUN OUT OF MY OWN HOUSE BECAUSE I KNEW SOMETHING BAD WAS GONNA HAPPEN.
Griffin: I HEARD MULTIPLE FOOTSTEPS COMING AT ME.
Moscatelli: I NEVER WAS SO TERRIFIED IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.
Griffin: I TURN AROUND AND I SEE THE CHANDELIER JUST SPINNING.
Moscatelli: I WANTED TO RUN OUT OF MY OWN HOUSE BECAUSE I KNEW SOMETHING BAD WAS GONNA HAPPEN.
Griffin: IT GAVE ME GOOSE BUMPS.
Moscatelli: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I MOVED INTO MY NEW HOME IN SCHENECTADY, NEW YORK.
WHEN WE FIRST PURCHASED THE HOME, WE LIKED IT.
IT LOOKED WARM, IT LOOKED FRIENDLY.
SHE JUST NEEDED A LOT OF TLC.
THE VERY NEXT NIGHT, AFTER WE MOVED INTO THE HOUSE, I HEARD A RUCKUS IN HER ROOM AND I LOOKED UP AND HERE, SITTING ON THE BED WITH MY DAUGHTER, WAS AN OLDER WOMAN.
AND SHE TURNED AND SHE SMILED AT ME AND SHE'S RUBBING MY DAUGHTER'S FACE AND PLAYING WITH HER HAIR.
I WAS IN A PANIC.
AND I REALLY, TRULY BELIEVED SHE WAS REAL, BUT I KNOW NOW SHE WASN' BECAUSE SHE DISAPPEARED.
SHE JUST VANISHED.
I KNEW DEEP IN MY HEAR SOMETHING WASN'T RIGH IN THIS HOUSE, AND I HAD A FEELING I WAS IN FOR A RIDE.
THINGS DIDN'T STOP.
I HAD WATER BEING THROWN AT ME FROM NOWHERE, PICTURES COMING OFF THE WALLS, HITTING US, CHANDELIERS SHAKING.
WE WERE HEARING MANY VOICES FROM THE BASEMENT, HAMMERING IN THE ATTIC, AND IT STARTED SPIRALING.
EVERYONE WAS AFRAID OF THE BASEMENT.
I ALWAYS HEARD SOMEBODY WALKING BEHIND ME.
YOU COULD HEAR THE SHUFFLING OF THEIR FEET, YOU COULD HEAR THEM BREATHING, AND THEY'D GE RIGHT NEXT TO MY EAR.
NORMALLY, IF I SAID, "STOP IT," THEY'D GO AWAY.
ON THIS ONE PARTICULAR NIGHT, THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED.
AND I HEARD THE FOOTSTEPS BEHIND ME, I HEARD THE BREATHING.
WHATEVER IT WAS TURNED OFF ALL THE LIGHTS, AND I WAS STANDING IN THE PITCH BLACK.
IT SLAMMED THE DOOR SHUT.
I NEVER WAS SO TERRIFIED IN MY ENTIRE LIFE, AND I MADE MY WAY THROUGH THE DARK.
I GOT TO THE LIGHT SWITCH, AND IT WAS TURNED OFF, AND I KNEW THAT IT WAS THE SPIRIT DOWNSTAIRS.
IT WAS JUST GETTING SO BAD AND SO FRIGHTENING, I WAS AFRAID I WAS GONNA HAVE A HEART ATTACK OVER ALL THIS.
I NEEDED HELP.
Griffin: TAMMY GOT AHOLD OF ME, AND SHE STARTED GIVING ME A LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN HER HOUSE.
Moscatelli: AND I WAS NEVER SO HAPPY IN MY LIFE THAT SOMEBODY WANTED TO HELP ME.
JOHN CAME WITH HIS TEAM OF PEOPLE.
Griffin: THE MOMEN WE STEPPED OUT OF THE CAR, YOU HEARD THE CREAKING OF THE HOUSE, THE WIND CHIMES.
IT WAS JUST SOMETHING OUT OF A HORROR MOVIE.
Moscatelli: I SHOWED HIM ALL AROUND THE HOUSE.
I TOLD HIM HOT POINTS IN MY HOUSE, WHICH THERE WERE MANY, AND THEY COVERED THEM FROM TOP TO BOTTOM.
Griffin: AS WE CONTINUED TO SET UP, WE GET THIS FEELING THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST WATCHING US FROM ALL ANGLES OF THE HOUSE.
I FELT A LITTLE UNSETTLED.
THE HAIR ON THE BACK OF YOUR NECK WOULD JUST STAND UP.
AS WE WALK INTO THE ATTIC, ONE OF MY INTUITIVE CONSULTANTS, REGGIE, SENSED A LITTLE BOY AND A LITTLE GIRL UP HERE.
HE GOT A NAME OF JANINE, AND TAMMY SAID, "I GOT TO SHOW YOU THIS PICTURE.
" SHE SAID SHE HAD FOUND THIS PICTURE IN THE WALL OF HER HOUSE.
Moscatelli: SO, I GRABBED IT, AND I FLIPPED IT OVER AND POINTED AT THE NAME.
Griffin: MY HEART ALMOST SUNK.
IT SAYS, "JANINE.
" Moscatelli: THERE IS NO WAY THIS MAN COULD HAVE KNOWN ABOU THE PHOTO, BUT IT MATCHED UP.
IT MATCHED UP PERFECTLY.
Griffin: WE DECIDED TO GE ONE OF OUR TRIGGER OBJECTS, WHICH WAS A BLUE BALL, AND PLACED IT ON A TABLE.
WITHIN ABOUT 10 MINUTES, REGGIE HAD PASSED BY OUR CCTV MONITOR, LOOKED AT THE VIDEO, AND SAID, "WHERE DID THE BALL GO?" AND I TURNED TO HIM, AND I'M LIKE, "YOU HAD SET UP THE BALL ALREADY?" WE HAD JUST CAPTURED ONE OF THE BEST PIECES OF EVIDENCE THAT NOT ONLY SENT CHILLS DOWN MY SPINE, WOULD CONFIRM TO TAMMY THAT THERE REALLY IS SOMETHING IN THAT ATTIC.
Moscatelli: WHEN JOHN SHOWED ME THE TAPE THAT THE BALL MOVED OFF THE TABLE, I THOUGHT, "WHAT'S GOING ON IN MY HOUSE THAT I DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT?" IT AMAZES ME, AND, AT THE SAME TIME, IT FRIGHTENS ME TO DEATH.
Griffin: AS WE CONTINUED THROUGH THE INVESTIGATION, I WAS IN THE KITCHEN.
ALL OF A SUDDEN, I TURN AROUND AND I SEE THE CHANDELIER JUST SPINNING.
Moscatelli: WHEN I FIRST SEEN THE CHANDELIER MOVING, I WANTED TO RUN OUT OF MY OWN HOUSE BECAUSE I KNEW -- I KNEW SOMETHING BAD WAS GONNA HAPPEN.
I WAS ALMOST TEMPTED TO SAY, "WHY DON'T WE JUST STOP?" Griffin: THAT CHANDELIER KEPT ON SPINNING FOR APPROXIMATELY 20 MINUTES AT THE SAME SPEED, AND, FINALLY, IT JUST SLOWLY STOPPED.
AS WE FINISHED UP IN THE KITCHEN, I HAD SOME OF OUR INVESTIGATORS GO DOWN INTO THE BASEMEN BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE TAMMY WAS MOST AFRAID OF.
Moscatelli: MOST OF THE HOUSE, I DON'T FEEL TOO THREATENED IN, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING VERY DARK ABOUT MY BASEMENT.
Griffin: OUR CAMERAS, OUR RECORDERS WERE CAPTURING NOTHING.
WE HAD TO GO TO A MORE EXTREME LEVEL.
TAMMY HAD NEWS ARTICLES IN REGARDS TO THE HOUSE, AND WHAT I FOUND VERY INTERESTING ABOUT THIS HOUSE WAS, BACK IN THE PROHIBITION TIME, THAT THERE WAS APPROXIMATELY 20 TO 30 PEOPLE THAT WOULD HAVE PARTIES DOWN IN THE BASEMENT.
OUR THINKING WAS, "WELL, IF THEY'RE FROM "THE PROHIBITION TIME, ALCOHOL WAS ILLEGAL.
"THEREFORE, THEY ARE PREPARING TO HIDE IT FROM THE POLICE, SO I'M GONNA PLAY THE POLICE OFFICER NOW.
" I HAD ONE OF MY INVESTIGATORS GO DOWN IN THE BASEMEN AND OFFER TO PLAY A CARD GAME WITH THEM.
AT APPROXIMATELY 2:30, OUR INVESTIGATOR DOWNSTAIRS WAS COMING OVER THE WALKIE-TALKIE CONSTANTLY, SAYING, "I'M FEELING VERY UNCOMFORTABLE.
IT FEELS LIKE THEY'RE BREATHING DOWN MY NECK.
" SO I RUN INTO THE BASEMENT, SAYING, "POLICE! SEARCH WARRANT! "I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE DOWN HERE! WHERE IS THE REST OF THE ALCOHOL?" THAT'S WHEN, ALL OF A SUDDEN, I HEARD MULTIPLE FOOTSTEPS COMING AT ME, AND THAT'S WHEN I KNEW THAT, "OKAY, I THINK IT'S TIME THAT I GET OUT OF HERE.
" Moscatelli: I REMEMBER JOHN'S FACE WHEN HE CAME UP THE STAIRS AND LOOKED AT ME.
HE WAS WHITE AS A SHEET.
HE SAYS, "YOU GO SOMETHING VERY, VERY BAD DOWN IN YOUR BASEMENT.
" Griffin: LUCKILY, THE ACTIVITY FOR TAMMY'S PLACE HAD CALMED DOWN AFTER THAT.
IT WAS CLEAR TO US THAT SHE DIDN' JUST HAVE A SIMPLE HAUNTING.
FROM THE ATTIC, YOU HAVE THE CHILDREN AND THEN YOU MAKE YOUR WAY DOWN AND THE HISTORY JUST GETS DARKER AND DARKER ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BASEMENT, WHERE YOU'RE JUST SURROUNDED.
Moscatelli: I LOVE MY HOME, AND I DON'T WAN TO BE DRIVEN OUT OF IT, BUT I DON'T EVER BELIEVE MY HOUSE WILL NEVER BE HAUNTED.
I THINK IT'S A PERMANENT THING, SO WE GOT TO LIVE TO SHARE THE SPACE.
Beattie: WE SAW ANOMALIES IN THE PICTURES THAT WE KNEW WEREN'T THERE AT THE TIME.
Wenger: IT LOOKED LIKE THE BEGINNINGS OF A MANIFESTATION OF A SHADOW OR A GHOST, WHICH WE DIDN'T SEE WHEN WE WERE TAKING THE PHOTOGRAPH.
Beattie: I KNEW THAT WE WERE IN FOR A VERY INTERESTING TIME AT THE CASTLE.
Beattie: WE SAW ANOMALIES IN THE PICTURES THAT WE KNEW WEREN'T THERE AT THE TIME.
Wenger: IT LOOKED LIKE THE BEGINNINGS OF A MANIFESTATION OF A SHADOW OR A GHOST.
THAT REALLY SHOOK ME UP.
Wenger: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN IN A HAUNTED CASTLE IN TULLAMORE, IRELAND.
CHARLEVILLE CASTLE WAS BUILT IN 1798.
THE CASTLE IS IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ANCIENT FOREST, AND AS YOU DRIVE UP TO THE CASTLE, IT AMAZES YOU BECAUSE YOU DON'T EXPECT TO SEE SOMETHING THIS BIG IN THE AREA THAT IT'S IN.
IT TOOK A NUMBER OF YEARS TO COMPLETE, AND IT'S BUIL ON AN OLD MONASTIC BURIAL SITE.
SIX YEARS AGO, I STARTED TO VOLUNTEER FOR THE CASTLE, HELPING OU WITH DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS, AND THAT'S WHERE MY EXPERIENCES STARTED TO BEGIN.
THERE HAD BEEN TIMES WHEN, YOU KNOW, YOU'D HEAR CHILDREN GIGGLING UP AND DOWN THE STAIRWAY AND KIDS PLAYING WITH A BALL, BUT THERE'S NO ONE THERE.
TO BE HONEST, IT WAS A BI DISTURBING AND A BIT TERRIFYING.
FINALLY, MY FRIEND TONY AND I DECIDED TO TAKE A LOOK AND TRY AND GET SOME SORT OF IDEA OF WHAT WAS GOING ON.
Beattie: AS WE WALKED IN, I KNEW THAT WE WERE IN FOR A VERY INTERESTING TIME AT THE CASTLE.
FIRST, WE WENT TO THE BASEMENT, WHICH IS QUITE DAMP AND VERY DARK.
Wenger: AS WE WALKED DOWN THE STAIRS TO THE BASEMENT, WE NOTICED A DRASTIC CHANGE IN TEMPERATURE.
SO, WE SET UP OUR ENVIRONMENTAL METER, AND IT IMMEDIATELY STARTED TO MOVE.
WE WERE ASKING, "IF YOU'RE HERE, CAN YOU MAKE IT COLDER?" AND IT WOULD DIP DOWN, SO IT WAS ACTUALLY REACTING TO OUR QUESTIONS.
Beattie: WE WERE SURPRISED AND QUITE AMAZED THAT WE WERE ASKING I TO GO UP -- THE TEMPERATURE WAS GOING UP.
ASKING IT TO GO DOWN -- IT WAS GOING DOWN.
I WAS THINKING THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING MORE GOING ON THAN JUST DRAFTS.
Wenger: WE LEFT THE BASEMEN AND STARTED TO MAKE OUR WAY UP THE STAIRCASE, KNOWN AS HARRIET'S STAIRCASE.
FOR YEARS, I'VE HEARD THE STORY OF LADY HARRIE AT CHARLEVILLE FOREST CASTLE.
THE STORY GOES, IN 1861, SHE WAS SENT UPSTAIRS TO WASH HER HANDS TO GET READY FOR DINNER.
AFTER SHE WALKED UP THE STAIRS AND WASHED HER HANDS, SHE DECIDED THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO SLIDE DOWN THE BANISTER ON HER WAY BACK DOWN.
UNFORTUNATELY, SHE LOST HER GRIP AND FELL TO HER DEATH AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STAIRCASE.
Beattie: WE STARTED OFF AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STAIRS WHERE HARRIET'S BODY FELL.
Wenger: AS WE WERE WALKING UP THE STAIRCASE, THERE WAS A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT FELT A REALLY COLD WHOOSH OF AIR GO PAST THEM SO WE TOOK A PHOTOGRAPH.
Beattie: WE SAW ANOMALIES IN THE PICTURES THAT WE KNEW WEREN'T THERE AT THE TIME.
Wenger: THERE WAS ACTUALLY SOME SORT OF LIGH AT THEIR WAIST LEVEL, WHICH WOULD BE CONSISTEN WITH A 7- OR 8-YEAR-OLD CHILD.
AND WE TOOK ANOTHER COUPLE OF PICTURES, AND WE NOTICED THAT THERE WAS THIS ORB HOVERING IN THE MIDDLE, WHERE THE HOLE WAS THAT WENT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE GROUND FLOOR.
WE WEREN'T SURE WHAT THAT WAS.
WAS THA HARRIET TRYING TO MANIFEST? Beattie: WE CERTAINLY WEREN'T EXPECTING TO CAPTURE ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
Wenger: WE DECIDED TO JUST STAR TAKING PHOTOGRAPHS ALL AROUND US BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY, THERE WAS SOMETHING GOING ON THAT NIGHT, AND ONE OF THE PICTURES THAT WE TOOK WAS TO THE ENTRANCE OF HER NURSERY -- HER BEDROOM WHERE SHE WOULD SLEEP.
WE NOTICED AFTER WE TOOK THE PICTURE THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THE DOORWAY THAT WASN'T THERE WHEN WE LOOKED INITIALLY.
WHAT YOU CAN SEE IN THAT PHOTOGRAPH LOOKS LIKE AN APPARITION ABOUT FOUR FEET OFF THE GROUND, IN THE DOORWAY ITSELF LEADING INTO HER BEDROOM.
IT WAS REALLY BIZARRE.
Beattie: IT DID APPEAR TO BE THE RIGHT SIZE FOR A YOUNG GIRL, AND WE DEFINITELY KNOW THERE WAS NO FIGURE IN THE DOORWAY WHEN THE PICTURE WAS TAKEN.
SO PERHAPS THAT PICTURE IS HARRIET COMING OUT THE BEDROOM, WHERE SHE USED TO PLAY AND SLEEP.
Wenger: WE TOOK ANOTHER PHOTOGRAPH BY THE MAIN STAIRCASE.
AND WHEN I FIRS SAW THE PICTURE, THAT REALLY SHOOK ME UP.
IT LOOKED LIKE THE BEGINNINGS OF A MANIFESTATION OF A SHADOW OR GHOST, WHICH WE DIDN'T SEE WHEN WE WERE ACTUALLY TAKING THE PHOTOGRAPH.
Beattie: WE COULDN'T THINK OF ANY EXPLANATION OTHER THAN IT BEING HARRIET.
Wenger: IT LOOKS LIKE SHE WAS WALKING AROUND HER HOME TO SEE WHO WAS THERE -- COULDN'T HAVE JUST BEEN A SHADOW FROM OUTSIDE.
SO THAT FREAKED ME OUT, TO BE HONEST.
Beattie: LATER, WE THEN WEN TO ANOTHER PART OF THE CASTLE.
I WAS IN ONE OF THE ROOMS OFF OF THE STAIRWAY, AND I SAW THE FIGURE OF A YOUNG GIRL.
SHE APPEARED TO BE LOOKING OUT THE WINDOW, BUT THE SHUTTERS WERE CLOSED.
SHE TURNED AROUND AND LOOKED IN MY DIRECTION, AND AT THAT POINT, I HEARD SOMEONE ELSE COMING INTO THE ROOM AND I TURNED TO LOOK AT THEM, TURNED BACK TO THE GIRL, AND SHE HAD DISAPPEARED.
THE PEOPLE COMING INTO THE ROOM DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING.
Wenger: BY THE WAY HE WAS ACTING, I COULD SEE THA HE WAS VISIBLY SHAKEN UP, YOU KNOW, OVER THE ORDEAL BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU SEE EVERY DAY.
WE DECIDED IT WAS TIME TO GO.
SO, WE WERE JUST WALKING THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR OF THE CASTLE ON OUR WAY OUT AND DECIDED TO TAKE A COUPLE MORE PHOTOGRAPHS, AND ONE OF THE SHOTS THAT WE TOOK WAS OF THE DOORWAY ITSELF.
Beattie: WHEN WE LOOKED AT THAT PICTURE, THERE WAS A MIS COMING THROUGH THE DOORWAY.
Wenger: IT SEEMED AS IF IT WAS THE SPIRIT OF HARRIE WALKING US OUT THE FRONT DOOR AND BIDDING US GOODBYE.
Beattie: OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS, THE IMAGE OF THE YOUNG GIRL THAT I SAW AT THE WINDOW WAS ALWAYS IN MY MIND.
I COULDN'T GET RID OF IT.
SO, NEXT TIME I WAS DOWN AT THE CASTLE, I DECIDED I'D TRY AND SKETCH THE GIRL THAT I HAD SEEN.
I SHOWED THE PICTURE TO SOME OTHERS, AND THEY SAID THAT WAS THE GIRL THAT THEY HAD SEEN, TOO.
THAT WAS HARRIET.
Wenger: SHE DIED AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE.
MAYBE SHE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO GROW UP LIKE SHE SHOULD HAVE, AND MAYBE THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY SHE STAYED BEHIND -- IS TO CONTINUE TO TRY AND LIVE THROUGH THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO VISIT.
I THINK THE SPIRIT OF HARRIE WILL STAY IN THE CASTLE AS LONG AS THE CASTLE STANDS.
Beattie: THIS WHOLE EXPERIENCE HAS MADE ME WONDER WHETHER THERE REALLY IS AN AFTERLIFE OR JUST REMNANTS OF A SPIRI THAT PLAY BACK TO ANYONE WHO IS LUCKY ENOUGH TO SEE THEM.
Wenger: THE INVESTIGATIONS THAT TONY AND I HAVE DONE IN THE CASTLE DEFINITELY HEIGHTENED MY CURIOSITY FOR THINGS THAT GO BUMP IN THE NIGHT.
Beattie: FOR ANYONE THAT QUESTIONS WHAT I'VE SEEN, I JUST TELL THEM TO SPEND A NIGHT AT THE CASTLE.
Cindy: HE GRABBED ME BY THE HAND AND SAID, "MY HOUSE IS HAUNTED.
" Johnny: STARTED CATCHING ALL THESE ORBS SHOWING UP.
Cindy: "IF YOU CAN MOVE THAT BALL, I'LL KNOW THAT YOU'RE HERE.
" Johnny: AND YOU CAN HEAR THIS LITTLE CHILD'S VOICE.
Cindy: MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING TO THIS HOUSE.
Cindy: JOHNNY SAID, "MY HOUSE IS HAUNTED.
" Johnny: STARTED CATCHING ALL THESE ORBS.
Cindy: "IF YOU CAN MOVE THAT BALL, I'LL KNOW THAT YOU'RE HERE.
" MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING TO THIS HOUSE.
MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I MOVED INTO MY HUSBAND'S PARENTS' HOME IN LANGLEY, KENTUCKY.
JOHNNY AND I MET IN GRADE SCHOOL.
WE WERE EACH OTHER'S CHILDHOOD SWEETHEART.
Johnny: AFTER DATING FOR A WHILE, YOU KNOW, WE DECIDED TO GET MARRIED.
WE DIDN'T HAVE MONEY TO GE OUR OWN PLACE AT THE TIME, SO WE DECIDED TO STAY AT MY PARENTS' HOME.
Cindy: THE VERY FIRST NIGH I STAYED IN JOHNNY'S PARENTS' HOME, IT WAS AROUND 2:00 A.
M.
AND I GO TO GET SOMETHING TO DRINK OUT OF THE REFRIGERATOR, AND I HEAR A CHILD CRYING.
SO I LOOK OVER TO WHERE THE NOISE IS COMING FROM, AND IN THAT ROCKING CHAIR WAS A LITTLE BOY.
HE HAD HIS HANDS UP TO HIS FACE AND WAS SITTING THERE, LIKE, SOBBING.
I THOUGH IT WAS JOHNNY'S LITTLE BROTHER, AND I SAY, "WHAT'S THE MATTER, BABY?" AND THERE'S NO ANSWER.
I WAS LIKE, "WELL, MAYBE HE DON'T KNOW ME GOOD ENOUGH YET.
"YOU KNOW, ME AND JOHNNY JUST GOT MARRIED.
HE MIGHT NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S WRONG.
" SO I GO AND TELL JOHNNY, "ONE OF YOUR LITTLE BROTHERS IS IN THE LIVING ROOM CRYING.
GET UP.
GO SEE WHAT'S WRONG WITH HIM.
" Johnny: I TOLD HER I'D GO CHECK IT OUT, AND I KNEW MY BROTHER WASN'T THERE.
HE WAS STAYING ALL NIGH WITH SOME NEIGHBORS UP THE ROAD.
Cindy: SO, HE COMES BACK AND TELLS ME, "THERE'S NO ONE IN THERE, CINDY.
" AND I SAID, "WELL, I KNOW THERE WAS SOMEONE IN THERE.
I JUST SAW HIM.
I HEARD HIM.
" HE SAID, "NO, CINDY, THERE'S NO ONE HERE -- "JUST ME, YOU, MOM, AND DAD, AND THAT'S IT.
THE BOYS ARE AT THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE.
" "I KNOW -- I KNOW WHAT I SAW.
THERE WAS A LITTLE BOY IN YOUR MOTHER'S ROCKING CHAIR.
" AND HE SAID, "I BELIEVE YOU.
I REALLY DO.
" AND I WAS LIKE, "WELL, WHO IS IT?" AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HE GRABBED ME BY THE HAND AND SAID, "I DIDN'T WANT TO TELL YOU "'CAUSE I DIDN'T WAN TO FREAK YOU OUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, MY HOUSE IS HAUNTED.
" Johnny: I TOLD HER, "I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE "SINCE I'D BEEN 10 YEARS OF AGE, AND I'VE HEARD THINGS.
"I'VE EVEN HEARD CHILDREN CRYING, HEARD GIGGLING.
"I'VE HEARD LITTLE FEE RUNNING THROUGH MY ROOM, AND I WOKE UP WITH MY BED SHAKING AT TIMES.
" I SAID, "I'M SORRY TO TELL YOU THIS, "BUT AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, THIS PLACE HAS ALWAYS BEEN HAUNTED.
" Cindy: "WHAT? [ CHUCKLES .]
A HAUNTED HOUSE?" Johnny: SHE STARTED ACTUALLY LAUGHING BECAUSE SHE'S A BIG-TIME SKEPTIC.
Cindy: I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
Johnny: AND SHE SAID, "I'M SORRY.
I DON'T BELIEVE IN THAT.
" I HAD TO GO SHOW HER THAT THERE WAS NO ONE THERE TO PROVE TO HER THA HE DIDN'T COME HOME THAT NIGHT.
Cindy: JOHNNY WAS DETERMINED FOR ME TO BELIEVE THA HIS PARENTS' HOUSE WAS HAUNTED.
Johnny: I SAID, "I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, LET'S CALL UP THIS LADY I'VE BEEN READING ABOUT.
" HER NAME'S PATTI STARR, AND SHE'S BEEN IN THE PARANORMAL FIELD FOR MANY YEARS.
SHE ACTUALLY CERTIFIES PEOPLE TO GHOST HUNT.
Cindy: PATTI STARR CAME TO JOHNNY'S PARENTS' HOUSE.
SHE WAS VERY NICE AND VERY FRIENDLY, AND SHE GOT A LITTLE AGITATED ABOUT MY SKEPTICISM.
Johnny: AFTER PATTI HAD SEEN THIS, IT WAS MORE OF LIKE A CHALLENGE TO HER, I COULD TELL.
SO SHE TOOK CINDY TO THE SIDE AND WAS SHOWING HER EXACTLY HOW TO DO EVERYTHING, AND I COULD TELL CINDY WAS GETTING A LITTLE MORE INTERESTED AS PATTI WAS SHOWING HER THIS STUFF.
Cindy: I ENDED UP BEING A CERTIFIED PARANORMAL INVESTIGATOR THAN A SKEPTIC.
Johnny: SO, AFTER PATTI CERTIFIED US, I WAS EQUIPPED WITH EVERYTHING, AND I KNEW I WAS DEFINITELY GONNA PROVE TO CINDY THAT THIS PLACE IS HAUNTED.
I SAID, "YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE BEST PLACE TO STAR IS IN THE BASEMENT.
" WHEN WE WEN DOWN TO THE BASEMENT, WE STARTED TAKING PHOTOS IN THIS LITTLE WINDOW AREA.
Cindy: JOHNNY STARTED TO NOTICE THINGS APPEARING IN THE WINDOW FRAME.
Johnny: AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT SEEMED LIKE THESE FACES STARTED COMING THROUGH STARTED CATCHING ALL THESE ORBS SHOWING UP.
IT'S LIKE THEY WOULD BE THERE ONE MOMENT, AND THE NEXT, THEY WERE GONE.
AND THEN I STARTED SHOWING CINDY THESE PHOTOS.
SHE SAID, "WELL, I'M SURE THERE'S STILL SOME WAY TO EXPLAIN THIS.
" Cindy: SO, WE STARTED DOING AN EVP SESSION.
WE STARTED OFF ASKING, YOU KNOW, WHO WAS THERE, WHY WERE THEY HAUNTING JOHNNY'S PARENTS' HOME, HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN THERE.
Johnny: SHE SAYS, "MAYBE WE SHOULD PU SOME PARANORMAL TRIGGERS OUT.
" WE TOOK A LITTLE PLASTIC DOLL.
WE PUT THAT UP IN THE WINDOW FRAME WHERE WE'VE BEEN GETTING THESE PHOTOS AND TOOK SOME LITTLE BALLS AND DIFFERENT TOY SET UP THERE.
WELL, SHE STARTS ASKING THESE QUESTIONS.
Cindy: "IF YOU CAN MOVE THAT BALL, I'LL KNOW THAT YOU'RE HERE.
" IT NEVER MOVED, SO I'M LIKE, "I KNEW YOU COULDN'T DO IT.
IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS SPIRITS.
" Johnny: AND THEN I'M LISTENING TO THE RECORDER, AND I HEAR THIS LITTLE GIRL'S VOICE PLAIN AS DAY.
AND SHE EVEN DRAGS THE WORD LIKE SHE REALLY IS BORED.
I SHOWED THIS TO CINDY, AND SHE JUST TOTALLY FREAKS.
Cindy: KIND OF BLEW MY MIND A LITTLE BIT.
I GUESS IT WAS SAYING THAT WHAT I WAS WANTING IT TO DO WAS JUST BORING.
I'M THINKING, "WELL, MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING TO THIS HOUSE.
" Johnny: SHE WAS READY TO PUT EVERYTHING UP AND QUIT FOR TONIGHT, AND I START SNAPPING MORE PHOTOS AS WE'RE GOING UP INTO THE HOUSE.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, I NOTICED ON ONE OF THEM -- IT SHOWED THIS WHITE CIRCLE, AND IT'S MADE LIKE INTO A MIST, ALMOST LIKE SMOKE.
SO I SHOW THIS TO HER, AND SHE SAYS, "WHAT ON EARTH IS THAT?" Cindy: I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK.
THAT WAS SO STRANGE, SO THA KIND OF GOT MY ATTENTION.
AFTER THAT INVESTIGATION, I'M LIKE, "I'M STILL SKEPTICAL.
"I'M SORRY.
"YOU KNOW, YEAH, WE GOT A FEW GOOD THINGS, BUT IN THE END, THERE'S PROBABLY A GOOD EXPLANATION.
" Johnny: AND I SAID, "YOU KNOW WHAT? "IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA CHANGE THIS GIRL'S MIND "ABOUT PARANORMAL ACTIVITY, "IT'S WHERE A SCHOOL-BUS CRASH HAPPENED IN PRESTONSBURG, KENTUCKY.
" Cindy: THE SCHOOL-BUS CRASH OF 1958 WAS THE SECOND-WORST U.
S.
CRASH IN HISTORY.
IT KILLED 27 PEOPLE, 26 OF THOSE WAS CHILDREN, AND IT WAS ONE OF THE WORST THINGS THAT EVER HAPPENED TO FLOYD COUNTY.
SO, YOU KNOW, OF ALL THE PLACES THAT WOULD BE HAUNTED, THAT SHOULD BE ONE.
Johnny: THIS WOULD BE THE PLACE TO PROVE TO HER THAT THE OTHER SIDE DOES EXIST.
Cindy: JOHNNY TOOK ME TO THE SITE OF THE BUS CRASH TO PROVE TO ME THAT SPIRITS WERE REAL.
THERE WAS A THICKNESS IN THE AIR, LIKE A HEAVINESS THAT WEIGHED UPON YOU, AND YOU FELT SAD, ALMOST LIKE YOU WERE MOURNING.
I STOPPED, LIKE, MAYBE MIDWAYS DOWN THE BANK.
I WAS TAKING PICTURES, AND RIGH AWAY, THERE STARTED TO BE, LIKE, THIS GREEN MIST THA WOULD APPEAR IN SOME OF THEM AND LASSO-LIKE, ROPE-, ALMOST, LOOKING.
IT WAS REALLY WEIRD -- I'VE NEVER SEEN NOTHING LIKE THAT IN MY LIFE.
Johnny: FIRST THING I THOUGHT OF IS, "MAYBE THIS IS HOW THEY PULLED THE BUS OUT OF THE RIVER.
" SO WE START SETTING UP THE EQUIPMENT TO GET EVPs.
I GIVE HER ONE, AND I'M HOLDING ONE.
Cindy: JOHNNY HAD LAID OUT SOME TOYS, SOME PARANORMAL TRIGGERS -- A BABY DOLL, LIGHTS, EVEN CANDY -- TO TRY TO BE A TRIGGER OBJEC TO THESE CHILDREN'S SPIRITS.
Johnny: SO, WE'RE SITTING THERE, RECORDING EVERYTHING.
WE START ASKING THESE QUESTIONS -- "WHAT IS YOUR NAME? "WHAT YEAR WAS I YOU PASSED AWAY? HOW OLD ARE YOU?" JUST TRYING ANYTHING TO HIT A RESPONSE ON.
I SAID, "IS THERE ANYONE OUT HERE TONIGH THAT WOULD LIKE TO PLAY A GAME?" INSTANTLY, I REWOUND IT BACK, AND YOU CAN HEAR THIS LITTLE CHILD'S VOICE SO PLAIN.
"WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LOTS OF FUN.
" Cindy: WHEN WE GOT THE EVP OF THE LITTLE GIRL SAYING, "WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LOTS OF FUN," IT BLEW MY MIND.
Johnny: HER MOUTH JUST DROPPED OPEN.
HER EYES WERE HUGE.
AS A FATHER, IT'S JUST SO SAD THAT THE SPIRITS OF THESE CHILDREN MAY STILL BE THERE.
Cindy: WHEN ME AND JOHNNY FIRST GOT MARRIED AND ALL THIS FIRST STARTED, YOU KNOW, I WAS A SKEPTIC.
I DIDN'T BELIEVE IN SPIRITS.
FROM HIS PARENTS' HOME TO THE BUS CRASH AND ALL THE PROOF IN BETWEEN THAT WE'VE HAD FROM BOTH PLACES, IT'S CHANGED ME, I'M A DIFFEREN PERSON NOW, AND I'M A BELIEVER.
I BELIEVE IN THE PARANORMAL.
I BELIEVE THERE'S SPIRITS.
I BELIEVE THERE'S THINGS OUT THERE.
Johnny: SHE WAS A SKEPTIC HARD-CORE FROM THE BEGINNING.
SHE WOULD LAUGH IT OFF AS A JOKE.
TODAY, YOU KNOW, I COULD TELL SHE TAKES I MORE SERIOUS THAN EVER.
Cindy: IF YOU'RE NOT OPEN-MINDED, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BELIEVE IN ANYTHING.
YOU HAVE TO BE OPEN-MINDED JUST FOR THAT CHANCE TO SEE WHAT THERE IS OUT THERE.
Dixon: THERE WAS SOMETHING RIGHT BEHIND ME, COMING DOWN THE STAIRS, AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, "OH, MY GOD.
I'VE CAUGHT AN APPARITION.
" IT WAS THE MOST EXCITING PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT I MYSELF HAVE EVER CAPTURED.
THERE IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING ELSE AFTER THIS LIFE.
Dixon: IT WAS THE MOST EXCITING PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT I MYSELF HAVE EVER CAPTURED.
AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, "OH, MY GOD.
I'VE CAUGHT AN APPARITION.
" THERE IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING ELSE AFTER THIS LIFE.
Ehrlich: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I VISITED DR.
MUDD'S HOUSE IN WALDORF, MARYLAND.
RONDA AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER SINCE AUGUST OF 2009.
Dixon: I HAPPENED TO SEE A BLURB ABOUT A GHOST TRACKING GROUP THAT WAS LOCAL.
SO, IT GAVE A NUMBER, I CALLED HER, AND THE REST IS HISTORY.
Ehrlich: A MEMBER OF OUR GROUP HAD TOLD ME ABOUT DR.
MUDD'S HOUSE.
Dixon: SHE HAD GONE TO THE DR.
MUDD HOUSE YEARS EARLIER, AND SHE HAD ACTUALLY GOT A PICTURE OF AN APPARITION COMING DOWN THE STAIRS.
Ehrlich: SO, WE THOUGH WE'D GO TO DR.
MUDD'S HOUSE AND SEE WHAT WE COULD CAPTURE.
Dixon: DR.
MUDD WAS A CONFEDERATE SYMPATHIZER.
HE WAS ONE OF THE CO-CONSPIRATORS FOR THE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT LINCOLN.
JOHN WILKES BOOTH HAPPENED TO SWING BY HIS HOUSE AFTER HE BROKE HIS LEG WHEN HE JUMPED FROM THE PRESIDENT'S BOX ONTO THE STAGE OF FORD'S THEATRE.
WELL, DR.
MUDD CUT HIS BOOT OFF, SET HIS LEG, AND TOOK HIM TO THE UPSTAIRS BEDROOM WHERE HE STAYED FOR A FEW DAYS.
MARY SURRAT WAS ALSO A CO-CONSPIRATOR THAT HAPPENED TO BE THE FIRST LADY THAT WAS EXECUTED BY THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT.
SHE HID GUNS IN HER HOUSE FOR JOHN WILKES BOOTH AND THE OTHER CO-CONSPIRATORS SO WHEN THEY MADE THEIR ESCAPE TO VIRGINIA, HE WOULD HAVE GUNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WHEN YOU FIRST COME UP THE STREET, YOU HAPPEN TO SEE THIS HOUSE SITTING UP ON THE HILL.
IT HAS BARNS AND SOME OUTBUILDINGS, AND IT ALSO HAS A BIG HORSESHOE DRIVEWAY.
ALL I KNEW WAS THA IT WAS AN OLD FARMHOUSE, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR RUMORS ABOUT THINGS THAT GO ON, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPEC WHEN I ARRIVED.
Ehrlich: WHEN I WALKED INTO DR.
MUDD'S HOUSE, I GOT A FEELING LIKE A PANIC ATTACK.
I CAN'T CATCH MY BREATH, JUST A REAL FEAR TYPE OF THING, WHICH TELLS ME THAT THERE'S SOMETHING PARANORMAL AROUND.
THE FIRST THING WE DO IS WE SET UP OUR CAMERAS, RECORDERS, AND ANY OTHER PARANORMAL EQUIPMEN THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE SO THAT WE CAN RECORD IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AT THE SAME TIME.
FIRST PLACE WE WEN WAS THE PARLOR.
IN THE PARLOR, YOU HAVE A FIREPLACE ON THE ONE SIDE, THERE'S A LITTLE ROUND TABLE IN THE CENTER OF THE ROOM, AND A COUCH TO THE FAR SIDE.
Dixon: THE PARLOR AREA'S SET UP WITH A LOT OF FAMILY ANTIQUES -- THE ORIGINAL COUCH THAT BOOTH WAS LAID UPON WHEN HE FIRST CAME IN TO SEE DR.
MUDD.
SO, ONE OF OUR INVESTIGATORS TOOK A PICTURE, AND IN THAT PICTURE, THERE WAS A MIST HOVERING OVER THE TABLE.
Ehrlich: WHEN I FIRST SAW THE PHOTO, IT WAS LIKE, "WOW.
I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THEY'VE GO THIS MIST THERE IN THIS ROOM.
" Dixon: IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE A LADY HAS A CLOAK OVER HER HEAD.
I THINK THE MIS COULD POSSIBLY BE MRS.
SURRATT.
Ehrlich: I THINK THAT DR.
MUDD AND MARY SURRAT LINGER IN THE HOUSE BECAUSE IT WAS A PLACE THAT THEY LIVED, ENJOYED, AND DID A LOT OF THINGS THERE.
MEANWHILE, THERE WAS ANOTHER MEMBER IN THE DINING ROOM WHO WAS SHOOTING PICTURES AND HE HAD HIS RECORDER GOING AND HE FOUND OU THAT HE CAPTURED A MIST OF A LITTLE GIRL.
IT LOOKS LIKE SHE IS REACHING UP TOWARDS THE TABLE.
Dixon: AT THE EDGE OF THE TABLE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT LOOKS LIKE LEGS AND AN APPARITION ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF THE TABLE, AND THERE'S A FEW ORBS IN THE BACKGROUND, ALSO.
AND NOT ONLY DID HE GET THAT APPARITION, BUT HE ALSO GOT AN EVP.
THE CHILD SAYS, "DADDY, I DON'T WANT TO.
" AND THE FATHER SAID, "YOU NEED TO DO THAT NOW!" Ehrlich: FOR THIS EVP, IT WAS JUST SO AMAZING THAT WE COULD CAPTURE A COMMUNICATION BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE INSTEAD OF JUST ANSWERS TO OUR QUESTIONS.
IT'S VERY UNIQUE TO GE TWO PEOPLE TALKING IN AN EVP.
I WOULD THINK THAT THE VOICE OF THE GIRL AND THE MIST OF THE GIRL WOULD BE ONE OF THE DAUGHTERS OF DR.
MUDD.
LATER ON THAT NIGHT, RONDA WAS COMING DOWN THE STEPS.
Dixon: IN THE FOYER, THERE'S A PICTURE OF DR.
MUDD ON THE WALL.
THERE'S ALSO, LIKE, A FULL-LENGTH MIRROR THAT IS AT THE END OF THE HALL.
I'M TAKING PICTURES, AND I NOTICE SOMETHING STRANGE IN THE MIRROR.
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS 'CAUSE I REALLY DON'T LOOK A WHOLE LOT AT MY PICTURES UNTIL I GET HOME.
THAT WAS THE END OF THAT.
WHEN I PUT THE PICTURES ON MY COMPUTER, THAT'S THE FIRST PICTURE I WENT TO.
I LOOKED AT IT, AND I THOUGHT, "COULD THAT BE THE REFLECTION OF THE OTHER INVESTIGATOR?" SO I ZOOMED IN A LITTLE MORE -- CLOSER I GOT, THE CLEARER IT BECAME.
AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, "OH, MY GOD.
I'VE CAUGHT AN APPARITION.
" I WAS EXCITED, I WAS NERVOUS 'CAUSE I'D NEVER CAUGHT AN APPARITION BEFORE.
THE APPARITION WAS ACTUALLY RIGHT BEHIND ME, COMING DOWN THE STAIRS.
IT WAS THE MOST EXCITING PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT I MYSELF HAVE EVER CAPTURED.
Ehrlich: WHEN LOOKING AT THE PICTURE, I HAD TO ZOOM IN, AND IT WAS LIKE, "OH, MY GOD.
"I CAN'T BELIEVE RONDA ACTUALLY GOT THIS PICTURE OF A MAN WALKING DOWN THE STEPS.
" Dixon: IT LOOKS LIKE HE HAS SCARF AROUND HIS NECK.
HIS HAIR'S THIN.
HE HAS A POINTED NOSE.
Ehrlich: "WAIT A MINUTE, THIS LOOKS LIKE DR.
MUDD.
" Dixon: IF YOU LOOK AT THAT PICTURE AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THAT PICTURE THAT'S ON THE WALL HANGING NEXT TO IT, IT'S THE SAME IDENTICAL MAN.
THERE'S NO GETTING AROUND IT, AND THAT MAN IS DR.
MUDD.
I THINK DR.
MUDD WAS THERE AT THE HOUSE BECAUSE HE WANTS TO PROCLAIM HIS INNOCENCE.
ALL THE BOOKS SAY HE'S A CONFEDERATE SYMPATHIZER AND THAT HE WAS IN ON THE PLOT WITH JOHN WILKES BOOTH AND THE SURRATT FAMILY TO KILL PRESIDENT LINCOLN AND I THINK HE STICKS AROUND JUST TO SHOW THAT HE'S INNOCENT.
DR.
MUDD WILL GO DOWN THOSE STAIRS FOR ALL ETERNITY.
Ehrlich: THE EXPERIENCES FROM DR.
MUDD'S HOUSE HAS PROVED TO US THAT THE PARANORMAL DOES EXIST.
Dixon: AFTER SEEING THE CHILD AT THE END OF THE TABLE, HEARING ALL THE EVPs I AM SO CONVINCED THAT THERE IS LIFE AFTER DEATH.
YOU CAN'T SWAY ME ANY OTHER WAY.
THERE IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING ELSE AFTER THIS LIFE.
SOME SPIRIT IS THERE.
Delgado: WE'VE GOT VIDEO OF AN ORB ENTERING THE BACK OF ONE OF MY TEAM MEMBERS' HEAD.
Archiga: THAT REALLY SCARED THE [BLEEP.]
OUT OF ME.
Johnny: ALL OF A SUDDEN, THESE FACES STARTED COMING THROUGH.
STARTED CATCHING ALL THESE ORBS SHOWING UP.
THEY WOULD BE THERE ONE MOMENT, AND THE NEXT, THEY WERE GONE.
Cindy: MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING TO THIS HOUSE.
I'VE NEVER SEEN NOTHING LIKE THAT IN MY LIFE.
Dixon: I'M TAKING PICTURES.
I NOTICE SOMETHING STRANGE IN THE MIRROR.
I LOOKED AT THAT PICTURE, AND I THOUGHT, "OH, MY GOD.
I'VE CAUGHT AN APPARITION.
" IT WAS THE MOS EXCITING PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT I HAVE EVER CAPTURED.
Beattie: WE SAW ANOMALIES IN THE PICTURES THAT WE KNEW WEREN'T THERE AT THE TIME.
Wenger: IT LOOKED LIKE THE BEGINNINGS OF A MANIFESTATION OF A GHOST -- COULDN'T HAVE JUST BEEN A SHADOW FROM OUTSIDE.
THAT REALLY SHOOK ME UP.
Griffin: WE HAD JUST CAPTURED ONE OF THE BEST PIECES OF EVIDENCE THAT WOULD CONFIRM THAT THERE REALLY IS SOMETHING IN THAT ATTIC.
Moscatelli: I WANTED TO RUN OUT OF MY OWN HOUSE.
I KNEW SOMETHING BAD WAS GONNA HAPPEN.
Archiga: THEY WOULD HEAR VOICES, THEY WOULD SEE SHADOWS.
Delgado: WE'VE GOT VIDEO OF AN ORB ENTERING THE BACK OF ONE OF MY TEAM MEMBERS' HEAD.
Archiga: THAT REALLY SCARED THE HECK OUT OF ME.
MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I PURCHASED A RENTAL HOME IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.
ORIGINALLY, I PURCHASED THE HOME AS AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY.
THE HOUSE IS A THREE-BEDROOM, TWO-BATH HOUSE, I WOULD SAY ABOUT ON HALF AN ACRE, MADE IN THE '50s.
I HAD NO IDEA THAT THIS HOUSE MIGHT HAVE ANY PARANORMAL ACTIVITY AT ALL.
I GUESS THAT'S PROBABLY WHY [Chuckling.]
I GOT SUCH A GOOD DEAL ON IT.
THE FAMILY THAT I RENTED TO NEEDED SOME HELP, NEEDED TO MOVE INTO ANOTHER PLACE, AND I THOUGHT THIS WAS A PERFEC OPPORTUNITY FOR BOTH OF US.
EVERYBODY WAS HAPPY AT FIRST, AND THEN THEY STARTED BECOMING MISERABLE, THEY STARTED TELLING ME THAT THEY WOULD HEAR NOISES IN THE HOUSE, THEY WOULD HEAR VOICES, THEY WOULD SEE SHADOWS.
I STARTED THINKING THA THEY WERE GIVING ME EXCUSES -- WHY THEY'D BE LATE WITH THE RENT -- AND I THOUGH IT WAS A BUNCH OF SMOKE.
THE MAN THAT LIVED THERE BELIEVED THAT ONE OF HIS DAUGHTERS HAD A BOYFRIEND THAT WAS COMING IN SOMEHOW INTO THE HOUSE -- I GUESS TEENAGERS MESSING AROUND.
HE WOULD SEE THE PERSON OUTSIDE PASSING BY THE WINDOWS, AND HE WOULD RUN OUT THERE WITH HIS GUN AND HE WOULD NEVER SEE ANYTHING.
WHEN I HEAR THE STORY, I'M JUST THINKING, "NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO PRESEN THE PROPERTY AS BEING UNSAFE.
" EVENTUALLY, THE MAN BECAME VERY, VERY SICK.
HE'S GOING TO THE HOSPITAL.
NEXT THING, HE'S HAVING KIDNEY FAILURE.
FAST-FORWARD I A COUPLE OF MONTHS, AND HE WALKED OU ON HIS FAMILY COMPLETELY.
THE LADY THAT WAS LEFT BEHIND WITH ALL THE KIDS -- SHE HAD NO INCOME.
SHE EVENTUALLY HAD TO LEAVE THE PROPERTY.
I HAD TO EVICT HER.
THE TENANTS -- THEY'RE OUT.
MY MIND FRAME HAS CHANGED.
I DON'T WAN TO BE A LANDLORD NO MORE.
I'M GONNA FIX IT AND FLIP IT.
THE FIRST WORKERS I HAD TO COME AND CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY THEY JUST LEFT.
THEY DIDN'T EVEN GET PAID.
I NEVER HEARD FROM THEM AGAIN.
I BRING IN A SECOND GROUP OF WORKERS.
THAT'S WHERE IT REALLY GOT INTERESTING FOR ME.
I KNEW THESE PEOPLE.
THEY WERE REAL RELIGIOUS, JUST HONEST PEOPLE.
THEY STARTED EXPERIENCING THINGS INSIDE THE HOUSE.
THEY STARTED SAYING, WHEN THEY WERE PAINTING, THEY WOULD FEEL TUGS ON THEIR SHIRTS.
ONE OF THE WORKERS STARTED HEARING HIS NAME BEING CALLED OUT, SO HE ANSWERS.
HE HEARS HIS NAME BEING CALLED OUT AGAIN.
HE ANSWERS AGAIN.
THAT KIND OF SPOOKED ME.
THEY STARTED TELLING ME, "ALBERT, IT'S VERY HARD TO COMPLETE WORK IN YOUR HOUSE.
" THEY SHOWED ME CERTAIN PLACES IN THE HOUSE THAT THEY WOULD FIX, AND THE NEXT DAY, THE SAME PIECE WOULD BE BROKEN AGAIN.
AT THAT MOMENT, I START REALIZING THAT THERE IS SOMETHING DEFINITELY WRONG WITH THIS PLACE.
I HAVE A FRIEND NAMED JOHN WHO IS A PARANORMAL INVESTIGATOR THAT I'VE KNOWN FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS, SO I DECIDE TO GIVE HIM A CALL.
Delgado: I GO THE PHONE CALL FROM ALBERT, WHICH IS A FRIEND OF MINE, AND HE WANTED ME TO GO OU AND INVESTIGATE HIS HOUSE THAT WAS HAVING SPIRIT ACTIVITY.
WHEN WE FIRST ARRIVED AT ALBERT'S HOUSE, IT WAS A TYPICAL HOUSE -- OVERGROWN WEEDS, TRASH AROUND THE AREA, NOBODY LIVING THERE.
Archiga: THEY SHOW UP, I GIVE THEM A TOUR AROUND THE PROPERTY.
WHAT ASTONISHED ME WAS, A LADY THAT WAS A PART OF THEIR GROUP TOLD ME, "DO YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A MAN STANDING IN THE DOORWAY?" I IMMEDIATELY TURNED AND LOOKED TOWARDS THE DOORWAY.
THERE WAS NO MAN THERE THAT I COULD SEE.
AND SHE SAID, "HE'S A SPIRIT.
HE'S STANDING IN THE DOORWAY.
HE HAD THE AURA AROUND HIM LIKE HE WAS UPSET.
" IT SENT CHILLS THROUGH MY BODY.
I WAS FREAKED OUT BY THAT.
SO, AS JOHN WAS ABOU TO GO ABOUT HIS INVESTIGATION, THE NEIGHBOR SHOWED UP.
SHE STARTED MENTIONING MR.
GARZA, THE OLD MAN THAT OWNED THE PROPERTY PREVIOUSLY.
SHE WAS SAYING THAT HE WAS A MEAN OLD MAN AND THAT HE HATED PEOPLE AROUND HIS PROPERTY.
Delgado: KIDS PLAYING IN THE SIDEWALK -- HE WOULD RUN THEM OFF.
HE DIDN'T REALLY SPEAK TO ANY OF HIS NEIGHBORS AT ALL.
Archiga: AND IT KIND OF SCARED ME BECAUSE THE PSYCHIC HAD DESCRIBED THE SAME MAN THAT THE NEIGHBOR WAS DESCRIBING.
Delgado: I'M FIRST THINKING, "WHOSE SPIRI IS IN THE BUILDING?" AND THAT'S WHEN WE GO IN THERE AND TRY AND PUT A NAME, A FACE ON WHO MAY BE HAUNTING THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.
FIRST AREA WE INVESTIGATED WAS THE KITCHEN AREA.
WE DID A DOWSING-ROD SESSION, TRIED TO ESTABLISH COMMUNICATION WITH ANY SPIRITS THAT MAY BE IN THE HOUSE.
I ASKED THE SPIRI IF IT WAS A MALE OR FEMALE.
IT INDICATED THAT IT WAS A MALE SPIRIT THAT I WAS SPEAKING TO.
I BELIEVE THAT THE SPIRI WAS THE SPIRIT OF MR.
GARZA.
Archiga: THAT REALLY SCARED THEOUT OF ME.
SOME SPIRIT IS THERE, AND THERE'S REAL COMMUNICATION.
Delgado: ONE OF MY TEAM MEMBERS, PAUL, WAS TAKING STILL SHOTS IN THE BATHROOM AREA, AND HE HAPPENED TO POIN THE CAMERA TOWARD A MIRROR.
AND TO OUR AMAZEMENT, HE CAPTURED THE PHOTOGRAPH OF AN OLDER MAN WITH A BEARD IN THE MIRROR.
Archiga: I BELIEVE THAT PHOTO TO BE THE SPIRIT OF MR.
GARZA.
HE WAS A MISERABLE PERSON IN REAL LIFE, AND NOW HE JUST REFUSES TO LEAVE THE PROPERTY.
Delgado: AFTER LEAVING THE BATHROOM, WE WENT INTO THE BEDROOM AREA, AND I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
WE'VE GOT A VIDEO OF AN ORB ENTERING THE BACK OF ONE OF MY TEAM MEMBERS' HEAD.
WHEN WE PLAYED BACK THE VIDEO, IT WAS ACTUALLY SHOCKING.
Archiga: I KNEW AT THAT POIN THERE WAS SOMETHING SPIRITUAL GOING ON THERE.
Delgado: A SPIRIT ORB -- THE SPIRIT OF MR.
GARZA.
WE DECIDED TO DO A GHOST-BOX SESSION IN THE BEDROOM 'CAUSE IT WAS A HOTBED FOR ACTIVITY.
I WAS ACTUALLY SHOCKED WHEN I HEARD THE SPIRIT OF MR.
GARZA SPEAKING TO ME 'CAUSE IT COMPLETELY VALIDATED WHAT THE NEIGHBOR HAD TOLD US ABOUT A MR.
GARZA LIVING THERE.
Archiga: IT FLOORED ME.
CLEAR AS DAY, YOU COULD HEAR, "YES.
" Delgado: I ASKED, "ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPIRITS HERE WITH US?" I GOT A "MARIA.
" I WAS SHOCKED AT HEARING THAT.
Archiga: THE LADY REALLY JUST SENT ME OVER THE TOP.
Delgado: LATER THAT NIGHT, WE CAPTURED A FEMALE VOICE SAYING,"WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST SEE THAT ONE?" REFERRING TO MR.
GARZA.
IT WAS RIGHT NEXT TO ME.
I BELIEVE THE VOICE THAT SPOKE TO ME OUTSIDE OF THE BATHROOM WAS THE SPIRIT OF MARIA.
MARIA HAD SAID THA BECAUSE MY INVESTIGATOR HAD JUST CAPTURED THAT PICTURE OF MR.
GARZA IN THE MIRROR.
Archiga: IT -- IT SHOCKED ME.
Delgado: IT WAS GETTING LATE INTO THE NIGHT WHEN, ABRUPTLY, EVERYTHING JUST WENT QUIET IN THE HOUSE -- NO SPIRIT ACTIVITY AT ALL.
WE HAPPENED TO NOTICE THAT THERE ARE POWER LINES COMING FROM THE POWER STATION NEAR ALBERT'S HOUSE.
THE LINES GOT TURNED OFF ABOUT 11:00 AT NIGHT, AND WHAT A COINCIDENCE -- THE SAME TIME ALMOST ALL OUR SPIRIT ACTIVITY CEASED.
Archiga: JOHN BELIEVED THAT IT WAS THE POWER LINES THAT WERE FEEDING THE SPIRITUAL ENERGY.
Delgado: AND ALBERT'S HOUSE IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THESE POWER LINES -- MAYBE 15 FEET FROM THEM.
Archiga: I BELIEVE ALL THE EVIDENCE JOHN COLLECTED SHOWS YOU 100% THAT SPIRITS DO EXIST.
THEY ARE HERE AMONGST THE LIVING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO HELP THEM LEAVE, WHICH WOULD BE NICE IN MY CASE.
Delgado: I BELIEVE THE SPIRITS IN ALBERT'S HOUSE ARE MEAN SPIRITS, ESPECIALLY MR.
GARZA.
HE HAS RAN OFF EVERY TENAN THAT'S EVER LIVED IN THAT HOUSE, AND EVEN THE RENOVATION TEAM RAN OFF AND NEVER CAME BACK.
Archiga: THE PREVIOUS FAMILY THAT WAS LIVING THERE -- I FEEL REALLY, REALLY BAD FOR THEM.
I SAW THEM GO FROM BEING A PERFECTLY HAPPY FAMILY TO JUST A FAMILY TORN TO PIECES.
THIS HOUSE HAS DEFINITELY BECOME A NIGHTMARE FOR ME -- SIX MONTHS OF LOST PROFIT, OF ME PAYING THE MORTGAGE OUT OF MY POCKET, NO RENTERS, I CAN'T EVEN FINISH FIXING THE PLACE UP TO SELL IT, AND NOW I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF PEOPLE ARE GONNA WANT TO BUY I SINCE THERE'S SPIRITS LIVING IN IT ALREADY.
Griffin: I TURN AROUND AND I SEE THE CHANDELIER JUST SPINNING.
Moscatelli: I WANTED TO RUN OUT OF MY OWN HOUSE BECAUSE I KNEW SOMETHING BAD WAS GONNA HAPPEN.
Griffin: I HEARD MULTIPLE FOOTSTEPS COMING AT ME.
Moscatelli: I NEVER WAS SO TERRIFIED IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.
Griffin: I TURN AROUND AND I SEE THE CHANDELIER JUST SPINNING.
Moscatelli: I WANTED TO RUN OUT OF MY OWN HOUSE BECAUSE I KNEW SOMETHING BAD WAS GONNA HAPPEN.
Griffin: IT GAVE ME GOOSE BUMPS.
Moscatelli: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I MOVED INTO MY NEW HOME IN SCHENECTADY, NEW YORK.
WHEN WE FIRST PURCHASED THE HOME, WE LIKED IT.
IT LOOKED WARM, IT LOOKED FRIENDLY.
SHE JUST NEEDED A LOT OF TLC.
THE VERY NEXT NIGHT, AFTER WE MOVED INTO THE HOUSE, I HEARD A RUCKUS IN HER ROOM AND I LOOKED UP AND HERE, SITTING ON THE BED WITH MY DAUGHTER, WAS AN OLDER WOMAN.
AND SHE TURNED AND SHE SMILED AT ME AND SHE'S RUBBING MY DAUGHTER'S FACE AND PLAYING WITH HER HAIR.
I WAS IN A PANIC.
AND I REALLY, TRULY BELIEVED SHE WAS REAL, BUT I KNOW NOW SHE WASN' BECAUSE SHE DISAPPEARED.
SHE JUST VANISHED.
I KNEW DEEP IN MY HEAR SOMETHING WASN'T RIGH IN THIS HOUSE, AND I HAD A FEELING I WAS IN FOR A RIDE.
THINGS DIDN'T STOP.
I HAD WATER BEING THROWN AT ME FROM NOWHERE, PICTURES COMING OFF THE WALLS, HITTING US, CHANDELIERS SHAKING.
WE WERE HEARING MANY VOICES FROM THE BASEMENT, HAMMERING IN THE ATTIC, AND IT STARTED SPIRALING.
EVERYONE WAS AFRAID OF THE BASEMENT.
I ALWAYS HEARD SOMEBODY WALKING BEHIND ME.
YOU COULD HEAR THE SHUFFLING OF THEIR FEET, YOU COULD HEAR THEM BREATHING, AND THEY'D GE RIGHT NEXT TO MY EAR.
NORMALLY, IF I SAID, "STOP IT," THEY'D GO AWAY.
ON THIS ONE PARTICULAR NIGHT, THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED.
AND I HEARD THE FOOTSTEPS BEHIND ME, I HEARD THE BREATHING.
WHATEVER IT WAS TURNED OFF ALL THE LIGHTS, AND I WAS STANDING IN THE PITCH BLACK.
IT SLAMMED THE DOOR SHUT.
I NEVER WAS SO TERRIFIED IN MY ENTIRE LIFE, AND I MADE MY WAY THROUGH THE DARK.
I GOT TO THE LIGHT SWITCH, AND IT WAS TURNED OFF, AND I KNEW THAT IT WAS THE SPIRIT DOWNSTAIRS.
IT WAS JUST GETTING SO BAD AND SO FRIGHTENING, I WAS AFRAID I WAS GONNA HAVE A HEART ATTACK OVER ALL THIS.
I NEEDED HELP.
Griffin: TAMMY GOT AHOLD OF ME, AND SHE STARTED GIVING ME A LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN HER HOUSE.
Moscatelli: AND I WAS NEVER SO HAPPY IN MY LIFE THAT SOMEBODY WANTED TO HELP ME.
JOHN CAME WITH HIS TEAM OF PEOPLE.
Griffin: THE MOMEN WE STEPPED OUT OF THE CAR, YOU HEARD THE CREAKING OF THE HOUSE, THE WIND CHIMES.
IT WAS JUST SOMETHING OUT OF A HORROR MOVIE.
Moscatelli: I SHOWED HIM ALL AROUND THE HOUSE.
I TOLD HIM HOT POINTS IN MY HOUSE, WHICH THERE WERE MANY, AND THEY COVERED THEM FROM TOP TO BOTTOM.
Griffin: AS WE CONTINUED TO SET UP, WE GET THIS FEELING THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST WATCHING US FROM ALL ANGLES OF THE HOUSE.
I FELT A LITTLE UNSETTLED.
THE HAIR ON THE BACK OF YOUR NECK WOULD JUST STAND UP.
AS WE WALK INTO THE ATTIC, ONE OF MY INTUITIVE CONSULTANTS, REGGIE, SENSED A LITTLE BOY AND A LITTLE GIRL UP HERE.
HE GOT A NAME OF JANINE, AND TAMMY SAID, "I GOT TO SHOW YOU THIS PICTURE.
" SHE SAID SHE HAD FOUND THIS PICTURE IN THE WALL OF HER HOUSE.
Moscatelli: SO, I GRABBED IT, AND I FLIPPED IT OVER AND POINTED AT THE NAME.
Griffin: MY HEART ALMOST SUNK.
IT SAYS, "JANINE.
" Moscatelli: THERE IS NO WAY THIS MAN COULD HAVE KNOWN ABOU THE PHOTO, BUT IT MATCHED UP.
IT MATCHED UP PERFECTLY.
Griffin: WE DECIDED TO GE ONE OF OUR TRIGGER OBJECTS, WHICH WAS A BLUE BALL, AND PLACED IT ON A TABLE.
WITHIN ABOUT 10 MINUTES, REGGIE HAD PASSED BY OUR CCTV MONITOR, LOOKED AT THE VIDEO, AND SAID, "WHERE DID THE BALL GO?" AND I TURNED TO HIM, AND I'M LIKE, "YOU HAD SET UP THE BALL ALREADY?" WE HAD JUST CAPTURED ONE OF THE BEST PIECES OF EVIDENCE THAT NOT ONLY SENT CHILLS DOWN MY SPINE, WOULD CONFIRM TO TAMMY THAT THERE REALLY IS SOMETHING IN THAT ATTIC.
Moscatelli: WHEN JOHN SHOWED ME THE TAPE THAT THE BALL MOVED OFF THE TABLE, I THOUGHT, "WHAT'S GOING ON IN MY HOUSE THAT I DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT?" IT AMAZES ME, AND, AT THE SAME TIME, IT FRIGHTENS ME TO DEATH.
Griffin: AS WE CONTINUED THROUGH THE INVESTIGATION, I WAS IN THE KITCHEN.
ALL OF A SUDDEN, I TURN AROUND AND I SEE THE CHANDELIER JUST SPINNING.
Moscatelli: WHEN I FIRST SEEN THE CHANDELIER MOVING, I WANTED TO RUN OUT OF MY OWN HOUSE BECAUSE I KNEW -- I KNEW SOMETHING BAD WAS GONNA HAPPEN.
I WAS ALMOST TEMPTED TO SAY, "WHY DON'T WE JUST STOP?" Griffin: THAT CHANDELIER KEPT ON SPINNING FOR APPROXIMATELY 20 MINUTES AT THE SAME SPEED, AND, FINALLY, IT JUST SLOWLY STOPPED.
AS WE FINISHED UP IN THE KITCHEN, I HAD SOME OF OUR INVESTIGATORS GO DOWN INTO THE BASEMEN BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE TAMMY WAS MOST AFRAID OF.
Moscatelli: MOST OF THE HOUSE, I DON'T FEEL TOO THREATENED IN, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING VERY DARK ABOUT MY BASEMENT.
Griffin: OUR CAMERAS, OUR RECORDERS WERE CAPTURING NOTHING.
WE HAD TO GO TO A MORE EXTREME LEVEL.
TAMMY HAD NEWS ARTICLES IN REGARDS TO THE HOUSE, AND WHAT I FOUND VERY INTERESTING ABOUT THIS HOUSE WAS, BACK IN THE PROHIBITION TIME, THAT THERE WAS APPROXIMATELY 20 TO 30 PEOPLE THAT WOULD HAVE PARTIES DOWN IN THE BASEMENT.
OUR THINKING WAS, "WELL, IF THEY'RE FROM "THE PROHIBITION TIME, ALCOHOL WAS ILLEGAL.
"THEREFORE, THEY ARE PREPARING TO HIDE IT FROM THE POLICE, SO I'M GONNA PLAY THE POLICE OFFICER NOW.
" I HAD ONE OF MY INVESTIGATORS GO DOWN IN THE BASEMEN AND OFFER TO PLAY A CARD GAME WITH THEM.
AT APPROXIMATELY 2:30, OUR INVESTIGATOR DOWNSTAIRS WAS COMING OVER THE WALKIE-TALKIE CONSTANTLY, SAYING, "I'M FEELING VERY UNCOMFORTABLE.
IT FEELS LIKE THEY'RE BREATHING DOWN MY NECK.
" SO I RUN INTO THE BASEMENT, SAYING, "POLICE! SEARCH WARRANT! "I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE DOWN HERE! WHERE IS THE REST OF THE ALCOHOL?" THAT'S WHEN, ALL OF A SUDDEN, I HEARD MULTIPLE FOOTSTEPS COMING AT ME, AND THAT'S WHEN I KNEW THAT, "OKAY, I THINK IT'S TIME THAT I GET OUT OF HERE.
" Moscatelli: I REMEMBER JOHN'S FACE WHEN HE CAME UP THE STAIRS AND LOOKED AT ME.
HE WAS WHITE AS A SHEET.
HE SAYS, "YOU GO SOMETHING VERY, VERY BAD DOWN IN YOUR BASEMENT.
" Griffin: LUCKILY, THE ACTIVITY FOR TAMMY'S PLACE HAD CALMED DOWN AFTER THAT.
IT WAS CLEAR TO US THAT SHE DIDN' JUST HAVE A SIMPLE HAUNTING.
FROM THE ATTIC, YOU HAVE THE CHILDREN AND THEN YOU MAKE YOUR WAY DOWN AND THE HISTORY JUST GETS DARKER AND DARKER ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BASEMENT, WHERE YOU'RE JUST SURROUNDED.
Moscatelli: I LOVE MY HOME, AND I DON'T WAN TO BE DRIVEN OUT OF IT, BUT I DON'T EVER BELIEVE MY HOUSE WILL NEVER BE HAUNTED.
I THINK IT'S A PERMANENT THING, SO WE GOT TO LIVE TO SHARE THE SPACE.
Beattie: WE SAW ANOMALIES IN THE PICTURES THAT WE KNEW WEREN'T THERE AT THE TIME.
Wenger: IT LOOKED LIKE THE BEGINNINGS OF A MANIFESTATION OF A SHADOW OR A GHOST, WHICH WE DIDN'T SEE WHEN WE WERE TAKING THE PHOTOGRAPH.
Beattie: I KNEW THAT WE WERE IN FOR A VERY INTERESTING TIME AT THE CASTLE.
Beattie: WE SAW ANOMALIES IN THE PICTURES THAT WE KNEW WEREN'T THERE AT THE TIME.
Wenger: IT LOOKED LIKE THE BEGINNINGS OF A MANIFESTATION OF A SHADOW OR A GHOST.
THAT REALLY SHOOK ME UP.
Wenger: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN IN A HAUNTED CASTLE IN TULLAMORE, IRELAND.
CHARLEVILLE CASTLE WAS BUILT IN 1798.
THE CASTLE IS IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ANCIENT FOREST, AND AS YOU DRIVE UP TO THE CASTLE, IT AMAZES YOU BECAUSE YOU DON'T EXPECT TO SEE SOMETHING THIS BIG IN THE AREA THAT IT'S IN.
IT TOOK A NUMBER OF YEARS TO COMPLETE, AND IT'S BUIL ON AN OLD MONASTIC BURIAL SITE.
SIX YEARS AGO, I STARTED TO VOLUNTEER FOR THE CASTLE, HELPING OU WITH DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS, AND THAT'S WHERE MY EXPERIENCES STARTED TO BEGIN.
THERE HAD BEEN TIMES WHEN, YOU KNOW, YOU'D HEAR CHILDREN GIGGLING UP AND DOWN THE STAIRWAY AND KIDS PLAYING WITH A BALL, BUT THERE'S NO ONE THERE.
TO BE HONEST, IT WAS A BI DISTURBING AND A BIT TERRIFYING.
FINALLY, MY FRIEND TONY AND I DECIDED TO TAKE A LOOK AND TRY AND GET SOME SORT OF IDEA OF WHAT WAS GOING ON.
Beattie: AS WE WALKED IN, I KNEW THAT WE WERE IN FOR A VERY INTERESTING TIME AT THE CASTLE.
FIRST, WE WENT TO THE BASEMENT, WHICH IS QUITE DAMP AND VERY DARK.
Wenger: AS WE WALKED DOWN THE STAIRS TO THE BASEMENT, WE NOTICED A DRASTIC CHANGE IN TEMPERATURE.
SO, WE SET UP OUR ENVIRONMENTAL METER, AND IT IMMEDIATELY STARTED TO MOVE.
WE WERE ASKING, "IF YOU'RE HERE, CAN YOU MAKE IT COLDER?" AND IT WOULD DIP DOWN, SO IT WAS ACTUALLY REACTING TO OUR QUESTIONS.
Beattie: WE WERE SURPRISED AND QUITE AMAZED THAT WE WERE ASKING I TO GO UP -- THE TEMPERATURE WAS GOING UP.
ASKING IT TO GO DOWN -- IT WAS GOING DOWN.
I WAS THINKING THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING MORE GOING ON THAN JUST DRAFTS.
Wenger: WE LEFT THE BASEMEN AND STARTED TO MAKE OUR WAY UP THE STAIRCASE, KNOWN AS HARRIET'S STAIRCASE.
FOR YEARS, I'VE HEARD THE STORY OF LADY HARRIE AT CHARLEVILLE FOREST CASTLE.
THE STORY GOES, IN 1861, SHE WAS SENT UPSTAIRS TO WASH HER HANDS TO GET READY FOR DINNER.
AFTER SHE WALKED UP THE STAIRS AND WASHED HER HANDS, SHE DECIDED THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO SLIDE DOWN THE BANISTER ON HER WAY BACK DOWN.
UNFORTUNATELY, SHE LOST HER GRIP AND FELL TO HER DEATH AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STAIRCASE.
Beattie: WE STARTED OFF AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STAIRS WHERE HARRIET'S BODY FELL.
Wenger: AS WE WERE WALKING UP THE STAIRCASE, THERE WAS A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT FELT A REALLY COLD WHOOSH OF AIR GO PAST THEM SO WE TOOK A PHOTOGRAPH.
Beattie: WE SAW ANOMALIES IN THE PICTURES THAT WE KNEW WEREN'T THERE AT THE TIME.
Wenger: THERE WAS ACTUALLY SOME SORT OF LIGH AT THEIR WAIST LEVEL, WHICH WOULD BE CONSISTEN WITH A 7- OR 8-YEAR-OLD CHILD.
AND WE TOOK ANOTHER COUPLE OF PICTURES, AND WE NOTICED THAT THERE WAS THIS ORB HOVERING IN THE MIDDLE, WHERE THE HOLE WAS THAT WENT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE GROUND FLOOR.
WE WEREN'T SURE WHAT THAT WAS.
WAS THA HARRIET TRYING TO MANIFEST? Beattie: WE CERTAINLY WEREN'T EXPECTING TO CAPTURE ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
Wenger: WE DECIDED TO JUST STAR TAKING PHOTOGRAPHS ALL AROUND US BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY, THERE WAS SOMETHING GOING ON THAT NIGHT, AND ONE OF THE PICTURES THAT WE TOOK WAS TO THE ENTRANCE OF HER NURSERY -- HER BEDROOM WHERE SHE WOULD SLEEP.
WE NOTICED AFTER WE TOOK THE PICTURE THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THE DOORWAY THAT WASN'T THERE WHEN WE LOOKED INITIALLY.
WHAT YOU CAN SEE IN THAT PHOTOGRAPH LOOKS LIKE AN APPARITION ABOUT FOUR FEET OFF THE GROUND, IN THE DOORWAY ITSELF LEADING INTO HER BEDROOM.
IT WAS REALLY BIZARRE.
Beattie: IT DID APPEAR TO BE THE RIGHT SIZE FOR A YOUNG GIRL, AND WE DEFINITELY KNOW THERE WAS NO FIGURE IN THE DOORWAY WHEN THE PICTURE WAS TAKEN.
SO PERHAPS THAT PICTURE IS HARRIET COMING OUT THE BEDROOM, WHERE SHE USED TO PLAY AND SLEEP.
Wenger: WE TOOK ANOTHER PHOTOGRAPH BY THE MAIN STAIRCASE.
AND WHEN I FIRS SAW THE PICTURE, THAT REALLY SHOOK ME UP.
IT LOOKED LIKE THE BEGINNINGS OF A MANIFESTATION OF A SHADOW OR GHOST, WHICH WE DIDN'T SEE WHEN WE WERE ACTUALLY TAKING THE PHOTOGRAPH.
Beattie: WE COULDN'T THINK OF ANY EXPLANATION OTHER THAN IT BEING HARRIET.
Wenger: IT LOOKS LIKE SHE WAS WALKING AROUND HER HOME TO SEE WHO WAS THERE -- COULDN'T HAVE JUST BEEN A SHADOW FROM OUTSIDE.
SO THAT FREAKED ME OUT, TO BE HONEST.
Beattie: LATER, WE THEN WEN TO ANOTHER PART OF THE CASTLE.
I WAS IN ONE OF THE ROOMS OFF OF THE STAIRWAY, AND I SAW THE FIGURE OF A YOUNG GIRL.
SHE APPEARED TO BE LOOKING OUT THE WINDOW, BUT THE SHUTTERS WERE CLOSED.
SHE TURNED AROUND AND LOOKED IN MY DIRECTION, AND AT THAT POINT, I HEARD SOMEONE ELSE COMING INTO THE ROOM AND I TURNED TO LOOK AT THEM, TURNED BACK TO THE GIRL, AND SHE HAD DISAPPEARED.
THE PEOPLE COMING INTO THE ROOM DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING.
Wenger: BY THE WAY HE WAS ACTING, I COULD SEE THA HE WAS VISIBLY SHAKEN UP, YOU KNOW, OVER THE ORDEAL BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU SEE EVERY DAY.
WE DECIDED IT WAS TIME TO GO.
SO, WE WERE JUST WALKING THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR OF THE CASTLE ON OUR WAY OUT AND DECIDED TO TAKE A COUPLE MORE PHOTOGRAPHS, AND ONE OF THE SHOTS THAT WE TOOK WAS OF THE DOORWAY ITSELF.
Beattie: WHEN WE LOOKED AT THAT PICTURE, THERE WAS A MIS COMING THROUGH THE DOORWAY.
Wenger: IT SEEMED AS IF IT WAS THE SPIRIT OF HARRIE WALKING US OUT THE FRONT DOOR AND BIDDING US GOODBYE.
Beattie: OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS, THE IMAGE OF THE YOUNG GIRL THAT I SAW AT THE WINDOW WAS ALWAYS IN MY MIND.
I COULDN'T GET RID OF IT.
SO, NEXT TIME I WAS DOWN AT THE CASTLE, I DECIDED I'D TRY AND SKETCH THE GIRL THAT I HAD SEEN.
I SHOWED THE PICTURE TO SOME OTHERS, AND THEY SAID THAT WAS THE GIRL THAT THEY HAD SEEN, TOO.
THAT WAS HARRIET.
Wenger: SHE DIED AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE.
MAYBE SHE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO GROW UP LIKE SHE SHOULD HAVE, AND MAYBE THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY SHE STAYED BEHIND -- IS TO CONTINUE TO TRY AND LIVE THROUGH THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO VISIT.
I THINK THE SPIRIT OF HARRIE WILL STAY IN THE CASTLE AS LONG AS THE CASTLE STANDS.
Beattie: THIS WHOLE EXPERIENCE HAS MADE ME WONDER WHETHER THERE REALLY IS AN AFTERLIFE OR JUST REMNANTS OF A SPIRI THAT PLAY BACK TO ANYONE WHO IS LUCKY ENOUGH TO SEE THEM.
Wenger: THE INVESTIGATIONS THAT TONY AND I HAVE DONE IN THE CASTLE DEFINITELY HEIGHTENED MY CURIOSITY FOR THINGS THAT GO BUMP IN THE NIGHT.
Beattie: FOR ANYONE THAT QUESTIONS WHAT I'VE SEEN, I JUST TELL THEM TO SPEND A NIGHT AT THE CASTLE.
Cindy: HE GRABBED ME BY THE HAND AND SAID, "MY HOUSE IS HAUNTED.
" Johnny: STARTED CATCHING ALL THESE ORBS SHOWING UP.
Cindy: "IF YOU CAN MOVE THAT BALL, I'LL KNOW THAT YOU'RE HERE.
" Johnny: AND YOU CAN HEAR THIS LITTLE CHILD'S VOICE.
Cindy: MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING TO THIS HOUSE.
Cindy: JOHNNY SAID, "MY HOUSE IS HAUNTED.
" Johnny: STARTED CATCHING ALL THESE ORBS.
Cindy: "IF YOU CAN MOVE THAT BALL, I'LL KNOW THAT YOU'RE HERE.
" MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING TO THIS HOUSE.
MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I MOVED INTO MY HUSBAND'S PARENTS' HOME IN LANGLEY, KENTUCKY.
JOHNNY AND I MET IN GRADE SCHOOL.
WE WERE EACH OTHER'S CHILDHOOD SWEETHEART.
Johnny: AFTER DATING FOR A WHILE, YOU KNOW, WE DECIDED TO GET MARRIED.
WE DIDN'T HAVE MONEY TO GE OUR OWN PLACE AT THE TIME, SO WE DECIDED TO STAY AT MY PARENTS' HOME.
Cindy: THE VERY FIRST NIGH I STAYED IN JOHNNY'S PARENTS' HOME, IT WAS AROUND 2:00 A.
M.
AND I GO TO GET SOMETHING TO DRINK OUT OF THE REFRIGERATOR, AND I HEAR A CHILD CRYING.
SO I LOOK OVER TO WHERE THE NOISE IS COMING FROM, AND IN THAT ROCKING CHAIR WAS A LITTLE BOY.
HE HAD HIS HANDS UP TO HIS FACE AND WAS SITTING THERE, LIKE, SOBBING.
I THOUGH IT WAS JOHNNY'S LITTLE BROTHER, AND I SAY, "WHAT'S THE MATTER, BABY?" AND THERE'S NO ANSWER.
I WAS LIKE, "WELL, MAYBE HE DON'T KNOW ME GOOD ENOUGH YET.
"YOU KNOW, ME AND JOHNNY JUST GOT MARRIED.
HE MIGHT NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S WRONG.
" SO I GO AND TELL JOHNNY, "ONE OF YOUR LITTLE BROTHERS IS IN THE LIVING ROOM CRYING.
GET UP.
GO SEE WHAT'S WRONG WITH HIM.
" Johnny: I TOLD HER I'D GO CHECK IT OUT, AND I KNEW MY BROTHER WASN'T THERE.
HE WAS STAYING ALL NIGH WITH SOME NEIGHBORS UP THE ROAD.
Cindy: SO, HE COMES BACK AND TELLS ME, "THERE'S NO ONE IN THERE, CINDY.
" AND I SAID, "WELL, I KNOW THERE WAS SOMEONE IN THERE.
I JUST SAW HIM.
I HEARD HIM.
" HE SAID, "NO, CINDY, THERE'S NO ONE HERE -- "JUST ME, YOU, MOM, AND DAD, AND THAT'S IT.
THE BOYS ARE AT THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE.
" "I KNOW -- I KNOW WHAT I SAW.
THERE WAS A LITTLE BOY IN YOUR MOTHER'S ROCKING CHAIR.
" AND HE SAID, "I BELIEVE YOU.
I REALLY DO.
" AND I WAS LIKE, "WELL, WHO IS IT?" AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HE GRABBED ME BY THE HAND AND SAID, "I DIDN'T WANT TO TELL YOU "'CAUSE I DIDN'T WAN TO FREAK YOU OUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, MY HOUSE IS HAUNTED.
" Johnny: I TOLD HER, "I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE "SINCE I'D BEEN 10 YEARS OF AGE, AND I'VE HEARD THINGS.
"I'VE EVEN HEARD CHILDREN CRYING, HEARD GIGGLING.
"I'VE HEARD LITTLE FEE RUNNING THROUGH MY ROOM, AND I WOKE UP WITH MY BED SHAKING AT TIMES.
" I SAID, "I'M SORRY TO TELL YOU THIS, "BUT AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, THIS PLACE HAS ALWAYS BEEN HAUNTED.
" Cindy: "WHAT? [ CHUCKLES .]
A HAUNTED HOUSE?" Johnny: SHE STARTED ACTUALLY LAUGHING BECAUSE SHE'S A BIG-TIME SKEPTIC.
Cindy: I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
Johnny: AND SHE SAID, "I'M SORRY.
I DON'T BELIEVE IN THAT.
" I HAD TO GO SHOW HER THAT THERE WAS NO ONE THERE TO PROVE TO HER THA HE DIDN'T COME HOME THAT NIGHT.
Cindy: JOHNNY WAS DETERMINED FOR ME TO BELIEVE THA HIS PARENTS' HOUSE WAS HAUNTED.
Johnny: I SAID, "I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, LET'S CALL UP THIS LADY I'VE BEEN READING ABOUT.
" HER NAME'S PATTI STARR, AND SHE'S BEEN IN THE PARANORMAL FIELD FOR MANY YEARS.
SHE ACTUALLY CERTIFIES PEOPLE TO GHOST HUNT.
Cindy: PATTI STARR CAME TO JOHNNY'S PARENTS' HOUSE.
SHE WAS VERY NICE AND VERY FRIENDLY, AND SHE GOT A LITTLE AGITATED ABOUT MY SKEPTICISM.
Johnny: AFTER PATTI HAD SEEN THIS, IT WAS MORE OF LIKE A CHALLENGE TO HER, I COULD TELL.
SO SHE TOOK CINDY TO THE SIDE AND WAS SHOWING HER EXACTLY HOW TO DO EVERYTHING, AND I COULD TELL CINDY WAS GETTING A LITTLE MORE INTERESTED AS PATTI WAS SHOWING HER THIS STUFF.
Cindy: I ENDED UP BEING A CERTIFIED PARANORMAL INVESTIGATOR THAN A SKEPTIC.
Johnny: SO, AFTER PATTI CERTIFIED US, I WAS EQUIPPED WITH EVERYTHING, AND I KNEW I WAS DEFINITELY GONNA PROVE TO CINDY THAT THIS PLACE IS HAUNTED.
I SAID, "YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE BEST PLACE TO STAR IS IN THE BASEMENT.
" WHEN WE WEN DOWN TO THE BASEMENT, WE STARTED TAKING PHOTOS IN THIS LITTLE WINDOW AREA.
Cindy: JOHNNY STARTED TO NOTICE THINGS APPEARING IN THE WINDOW FRAME.
Johnny: AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT SEEMED LIKE THESE FACES STARTED COMING THROUGH STARTED CATCHING ALL THESE ORBS SHOWING UP.
IT'S LIKE THEY WOULD BE THERE ONE MOMENT, AND THE NEXT, THEY WERE GONE.
AND THEN I STARTED SHOWING CINDY THESE PHOTOS.
SHE SAID, "WELL, I'M SURE THERE'S STILL SOME WAY TO EXPLAIN THIS.
" Cindy: SO, WE STARTED DOING AN EVP SESSION.
WE STARTED OFF ASKING, YOU KNOW, WHO WAS THERE, WHY WERE THEY HAUNTING JOHNNY'S PARENTS' HOME, HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN THERE.
Johnny: SHE SAYS, "MAYBE WE SHOULD PU SOME PARANORMAL TRIGGERS OUT.
" WE TOOK A LITTLE PLASTIC DOLL.
WE PUT THAT UP IN THE WINDOW FRAME WHERE WE'VE BEEN GETTING THESE PHOTOS AND TOOK SOME LITTLE BALLS AND DIFFERENT TOY SET UP THERE.
WELL, SHE STARTS ASKING THESE QUESTIONS.
Cindy: "IF YOU CAN MOVE THAT BALL, I'LL KNOW THAT YOU'RE HERE.
" IT NEVER MOVED, SO I'M LIKE, "I KNEW YOU COULDN'T DO IT.
IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS SPIRITS.
" Johnny: AND THEN I'M LISTENING TO THE RECORDER, AND I HEAR THIS LITTLE GIRL'S VOICE PLAIN AS DAY.
AND SHE EVEN DRAGS THE WORD LIKE SHE REALLY IS BORED.
I SHOWED THIS TO CINDY, AND SHE JUST TOTALLY FREAKS.
Cindy: KIND OF BLEW MY MIND A LITTLE BIT.
I GUESS IT WAS SAYING THAT WHAT I WAS WANTING IT TO DO WAS JUST BORING.
I'M THINKING, "WELL, MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING TO THIS HOUSE.
" Johnny: SHE WAS READY TO PUT EVERYTHING UP AND QUIT FOR TONIGHT, AND I START SNAPPING MORE PHOTOS AS WE'RE GOING UP INTO THE HOUSE.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, I NOTICED ON ONE OF THEM -- IT SHOWED THIS WHITE CIRCLE, AND IT'S MADE LIKE INTO A MIST, ALMOST LIKE SMOKE.
SO I SHOW THIS TO HER, AND SHE SAYS, "WHAT ON EARTH IS THAT?" Cindy: I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK.
THAT WAS SO STRANGE, SO THA KIND OF GOT MY ATTENTION.
AFTER THAT INVESTIGATION, I'M LIKE, "I'M STILL SKEPTICAL.
"I'M SORRY.
"YOU KNOW, YEAH, WE GOT A FEW GOOD THINGS, BUT IN THE END, THERE'S PROBABLY A GOOD EXPLANATION.
" Johnny: AND I SAID, "YOU KNOW WHAT? "IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA CHANGE THIS GIRL'S MIND "ABOUT PARANORMAL ACTIVITY, "IT'S WHERE A SCHOOL-BUS CRASH HAPPENED IN PRESTONSBURG, KENTUCKY.
" Cindy: THE SCHOOL-BUS CRASH OF 1958 WAS THE SECOND-WORST U.
S.
CRASH IN HISTORY.
IT KILLED 27 PEOPLE, 26 OF THOSE WAS CHILDREN, AND IT WAS ONE OF THE WORST THINGS THAT EVER HAPPENED TO FLOYD COUNTY.
SO, YOU KNOW, OF ALL THE PLACES THAT WOULD BE HAUNTED, THAT SHOULD BE ONE.
Johnny: THIS WOULD BE THE PLACE TO PROVE TO HER THAT THE OTHER SIDE DOES EXIST.
Cindy: JOHNNY TOOK ME TO THE SITE OF THE BUS CRASH TO PROVE TO ME THAT SPIRITS WERE REAL.
THERE WAS A THICKNESS IN THE AIR, LIKE A HEAVINESS THAT WEIGHED UPON YOU, AND YOU FELT SAD, ALMOST LIKE YOU WERE MOURNING.
I STOPPED, LIKE, MAYBE MIDWAYS DOWN THE BANK.
I WAS TAKING PICTURES, AND RIGH AWAY, THERE STARTED TO BE, LIKE, THIS GREEN MIST THA WOULD APPEAR IN SOME OF THEM AND LASSO-LIKE, ROPE-, ALMOST, LOOKING.
IT WAS REALLY WEIRD -- I'VE NEVER SEEN NOTHING LIKE THAT IN MY LIFE.
Johnny: FIRST THING I THOUGHT OF IS, "MAYBE THIS IS HOW THEY PULLED THE BUS OUT OF THE RIVER.
" SO WE START SETTING UP THE EQUIPMENT TO GET EVPs.
I GIVE HER ONE, AND I'M HOLDING ONE.
Cindy: JOHNNY HAD LAID OUT SOME TOYS, SOME PARANORMAL TRIGGERS -- A BABY DOLL, LIGHTS, EVEN CANDY -- TO TRY TO BE A TRIGGER OBJEC TO THESE CHILDREN'S SPIRITS.
Johnny: SO, WE'RE SITTING THERE, RECORDING EVERYTHING.
WE START ASKING THESE QUESTIONS -- "WHAT IS YOUR NAME? "WHAT YEAR WAS I YOU PASSED AWAY? HOW OLD ARE YOU?" JUST TRYING ANYTHING TO HIT A RESPONSE ON.
I SAID, "IS THERE ANYONE OUT HERE TONIGH THAT WOULD LIKE TO PLAY A GAME?" INSTANTLY, I REWOUND IT BACK, AND YOU CAN HEAR THIS LITTLE CHILD'S VOICE SO PLAIN.
"WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LOTS OF FUN.
" Cindy: WHEN WE GOT THE EVP OF THE LITTLE GIRL SAYING, "WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LOTS OF FUN," IT BLEW MY MIND.
Johnny: HER MOUTH JUST DROPPED OPEN.
HER EYES WERE HUGE.
AS A FATHER, IT'S JUST SO SAD THAT THE SPIRITS OF THESE CHILDREN MAY STILL BE THERE.
Cindy: WHEN ME AND JOHNNY FIRST GOT MARRIED AND ALL THIS FIRST STARTED, YOU KNOW, I WAS A SKEPTIC.
I DIDN'T BELIEVE IN SPIRITS.
FROM HIS PARENTS' HOME TO THE BUS CRASH AND ALL THE PROOF IN BETWEEN THAT WE'VE HAD FROM BOTH PLACES, IT'S CHANGED ME, I'M A DIFFEREN PERSON NOW, AND I'M A BELIEVER.
I BELIEVE IN THE PARANORMAL.
I BELIEVE THERE'S SPIRITS.
I BELIEVE THERE'S THINGS OUT THERE.
Johnny: SHE WAS A SKEPTIC HARD-CORE FROM THE BEGINNING.
SHE WOULD LAUGH IT OFF AS A JOKE.
TODAY, YOU KNOW, I COULD TELL SHE TAKES I MORE SERIOUS THAN EVER.
Cindy: IF YOU'RE NOT OPEN-MINDED, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BELIEVE IN ANYTHING.
YOU HAVE TO BE OPEN-MINDED JUST FOR THAT CHANCE TO SEE WHAT THERE IS OUT THERE.
Dixon: THERE WAS SOMETHING RIGHT BEHIND ME, COMING DOWN THE STAIRS, AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, "OH, MY GOD.
I'VE CAUGHT AN APPARITION.
" IT WAS THE MOST EXCITING PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT I MYSELF HAVE EVER CAPTURED.
THERE IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING ELSE AFTER THIS LIFE.
Dixon: IT WAS THE MOST EXCITING PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT I MYSELF HAVE EVER CAPTURED.
AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, "OH, MY GOD.
I'VE CAUGHT AN APPARITION.
" THERE IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING ELSE AFTER THIS LIFE.
Ehrlich: MY GHOST STORY BEGAN WHEN I VISITED DR.
MUDD'S HOUSE IN WALDORF, MARYLAND.
RONDA AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER SINCE AUGUST OF 2009.
Dixon: I HAPPENED TO SEE A BLURB ABOUT A GHOST TRACKING GROUP THAT WAS LOCAL.
SO, IT GAVE A NUMBER, I CALLED HER, AND THE REST IS HISTORY.
Ehrlich: A MEMBER OF OUR GROUP HAD TOLD ME ABOUT DR.
MUDD'S HOUSE.
Dixon: SHE HAD GONE TO THE DR.
MUDD HOUSE YEARS EARLIER, AND SHE HAD ACTUALLY GOT A PICTURE OF AN APPARITION COMING DOWN THE STAIRS.
Ehrlich: SO, WE THOUGH WE'D GO TO DR.
MUDD'S HOUSE AND SEE WHAT WE COULD CAPTURE.
Dixon: DR.
MUDD WAS A CONFEDERATE SYMPATHIZER.
HE WAS ONE OF THE CO-CONSPIRATORS FOR THE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT LINCOLN.
JOHN WILKES BOOTH HAPPENED TO SWING BY HIS HOUSE AFTER HE BROKE HIS LEG WHEN HE JUMPED FROM THE PRESIDENT'S BOX ONTO THE STAGE OF FORD'S THEATRE.
WELL, DR.
MUDD CUT HIS BOOT OFF, SET HIS LEG, AND TOOK HIM TO THE UPSTAIRS BEDROOM WHERE HE STAYED FOR A FEW DAYS.
MARY SURRAT WAS ALSO A CO-CONSPIRATOR THAT HAPPENED TO BE THE FIRST LADY THAT WAS EXECUTED BY THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT.
SHE HID GUNS IN HER HOUSE FOR JOHN WILKES BOOTH AND THE OTHER CO-CONSPIRATORS SO WHEN THEY MADE THEIR ESCAPE TO VIRGINIA, HE WOULD HAVE GUNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WHEN YOU FIRST COME UP THE STREET, YOU HAPPEN TO SEE THIS HOUSE SITTING UP ON THE HILL.
IT HAS BARNS AND SOME OUTBUILDINGS, AND IT ALSO HAS A BIG HORSESHOE DRIVEWAY.
ALL I KNEW WAS THA IT WAS AN OLD FARMHOUSE, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR RUMORS ABOUT THINGS THAT GO ON, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPEC WHEN I ARRIVED.
Ehrlich: WHEN I WALKED INTO DR.
MUDD'S HOUSE, I GOT A FEELING LIKE A PANIC ATTACK.
I CAN'T CATCH MY BREATH, JUST A REAL FEAR TYPE OF THING, WHICH TELLS ME THAT THERE'S SOMETHING PARANORMAL AROUND.
THE FIRST THING WE DO IS WE SET UP OUR CAMERAS, RECORDERS, AND ANY OTHER PARANORMAL EQUIPMEN THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE SO THAT WE CAN RECORD IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AT THE SAME TIME.
FIRST PLACE WE WEN WAS THE PARLOR.
IN THE PARLOR, YOU HAVE A FIREPLACE ON THE ONE SIDE, THERE'S A LITTLE ROUND TABLE IN THE CENTER OF THE ROOM, AND A COUCH TO THE FAR SIDE.
Dixon: THE PARLOR AREA'S SET UP WITH A LOT OF FAMILY ANTIQUES -- THE ORIGINAL COUCH THAT BOOTH WAS LAID UPON WHEN HE FIRST CAME IN TO SEE DR.
MUDD.
SO, ONE OF OUR INVESTIGATORS TOOK A PICTURE, AND IN THAT PICTURE, THERE WAS A MIST HOVERING OVER THE TABLE.
Ehrlich: WHEN I FIRST SAW THE PHOTO, IT WAS LIKE, "WOW.
I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THEY'VE GO THIS MIST THERE IN THIS ROOM.
" Dixon: IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE A LADY HAS A CLOAK OVER HER HEAD.
I THINK THE MIS COULD POSSIBLY BE MRS.
SURRATT.
Ehrlich: I THINK THAT DR.
MUDD AND MARY SURRAT LINGER IN THE HOUSE BECAUSE IT WAS A PLACE THAT THEY LIVED, ENJOYED, AND DID A LOT OF THINGS THERE.
MEANWHILE, THERE WAS ANOTHER MEMBER IN THE DINING ROOM WHO WAS SHOOTING PICTURES AND HE HAD HIS RECORDER GOING AND HE FOUND OU THAT HE CAPTURED A MIST OF A LITTLE GIRL.
IT LOOKS LIKE SHE IS REACHING UP TOWARDS THE TABLE.
Dixon: AT THE EDGE OF THE TABLE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT LOOKS LIKE LEGS AND AN APPARITION ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF THE TABLE, AND THERE'S A FEW ORBS IN THE BACKGROUND, ALSO.
AND NOT ONLY DID HE GET THAT APPARITION, BUT HE ALSO GOT AN EVP.
THE CHILD SAYS, "DADDY, I DON'T WANT TO.
" AND THE FATHER SAID, "YOU NEED TO DO THAT NOW!" Ehrlich: FOR THIS EVP, IT WAS JUST SO AMAZING THAT WE COULD CAPTURE A COMMUNICATION BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE INSTEAD OF JUST ANSWERS TO OUR QUESTIONS.
IT'S VERY UNIQUE TO GE TWO PEOPLE TALKING IN AN EVP.
I WOULD THINK THAT THE VOICE OF THE GIRL AND THE MIST OF THE GIRL WOULD BE ONE OF THE DAUGHTERS OF DR.
MUDD.
LATER ON THAT NIGHT, RONDA WAS COMING DOWN THE STEPS.
Dixon: IN THE FOYER, THERE'S A PICTURE OF DR.
MUDD ON THE WALL.
THERE'S ALSO, LIKE, A FULL-LENGTH MIRROR THAT IS AT THE END OF THE HALL.
I'M TAKING PICTURES, AND I NOTICE SOMETHING STRANGE IN THE MIRROR.
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS 'CAUSE I REALLY DON'T LOOK A WHOLE LOT AT MY PICTURES UNTIL I GET HOME.
THAT WAS THE END OF THAT.
WHEN I PUT THE PICTURES ON MY COMPUTER, THAT'S THE FIRST PICTURE I WENT TO.
I LOOKED AT IT, AND I THOUGHT, "COULD THAT BE THE REFLECTION OF THE OTHER INVESTIGATOR?" SO I ZOOMED IN A LITTLE MORE -- CLOSER I GOT, THE CLEARER IT BECAME.
AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, "OH, MY GOD.
I'VE CAUGHT AN APPARITION.
" I WAS EXCITED, I WAS NERVOUS 'CAUSE I'D NEVER CAUGHT AN APPARITION BEFORE.
THE APPARITION WAS ACTUALLY RIGHT BEHIND ME, COMING DOWN THE STAIRS.
IT WAS THE MOST EXCITING PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT I MYSELF HAVE EVER CAPTURED.
Ehrlich: WHEN LOOKING AT THE PICTURE, I HAD TO ZOOM IN, AND IT WAS LIKE, "OH, MY GOD.
"I CAN'T BELIEVE RONDA ACTUALLY GOT THIS PICTURE OF A MAN WALKING DOWN THE STEPS.
" Dixon: IT LOOKS LIKE HE HAS SCARF AROUND HIS NECK.
HIS HAIR'S THIN.
HE HAS A POINTED NOSE.
Ehrlich: "WAIT A MINUTE, THIS LOOKS LIKE DR.
MUDD.
" Dixon: IF YOU LOOK AT THAT PICTURE AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THAT PICTURE THAT'S ON THE WALL HANGING NEXT TO IT, IT'S THE SAME IDENTICAL MAN.
THERE'S NO GETTING AROUND IT, AND THAT MAN IS DR.
MUDD.
I THINK DR.
MUDD WAS THERE AT THE HOUSE BECAUSE HE WANTS TO PROCLAIM HIS INNOCENCE.
ALL THE BOOKS SAY HE'S A CONFEDERATE SYMPATHIZER AND THAT HE WAS IN ON THE PLOT WITH JOHN WILKES BOOTH AND THE SURRATT FAMILY TO KILL PRESIDENT LINCOLN AND I THINK HE STICKS AROUND JUST TO SHOW THAT HE'S INNOCENT.
DR.
MUDD WILL GO DOWN THOSE STAIRS FOR ALL ETERNITY.
Ehrlich: THE EXPERIENCES FROM DR.
MUDD'S HOUSE HAS PROVED TO US THAT THE PARANORMAL DOES EXIST.
Dixon: AFTER SEEING THE CHILD AT THE END OF THE TABLE, HEARING ALL THE EVPs I AM SO CONVINCED THAT THERE IS LIFE AFTER DEATH.
YOU CAN'T SWAY ME ANY OTHER WAY.
THERE IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING ELSE AFTER THIS LIFE.