My Next Guest Needs No Introduction with David Letterman (2018) s01e06 Episode Script

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[Malala]
So hello, everyone. My name is Malala.
I am student ambassador
of Lady Margaret Hall, LMH.
And I received training,
so I'm gonna do well.
- Hi, I'm Dave.
- Hi.
I'm from Ball State.
Muncie? Anybody apply to Ball State?
Huh? Interested?
No.
This was the first
women's college in Oxford,
and it started from that building,
right there.
What year was that, when they started?
It was 1878.
1878?
And I think it was, like, 800 years after,
like, this college had started.
Like, for 800 years, men and boys
could get education, but women couldn't.
Are you in? Have you been
accepted into Oxford?
Oh, no, we're in year 12,
- so we'll apply next year.
- Next year.
So this is probably
the most important stepping stone
toward getting into Oxford.
I'll do what I can.
Let me know when I get on your nerves.
Has that happened already?
- No.
- Okay, good.
[jazzy theme music plays]
Okay, I'm here. Thank you.
[audience cheers]
Thank you very much.
Okay, that's enough. Hey, hey, hey.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Welcome to the thing here,
and thank you very much for being here,
and I'm sorry for the delay.
Anybody actually steamed about waiting?
Have I ever-- Are you?
How can I make it up to you, ma'am?
What is your name?
- Princess.
- Where--?
[audience laughs]
- Are you an actual princess?
- Princess.
Where are you from?
Originally, from Michigan.
Oh, sure, the royal kingdom of Michigan.
Well, anyway, thank you all very much
for being here, ladies and gentlemen.
It means a great deal to me.
By the way, my name is Dave Letterman.
It's good to have you here. Thank you.
[taps mic]
God, I hope this goes well,
because I think I
I think this is important,
and as I get older and--
By the way, you can't get much older.
[coughs]
I think it's gonna be quite an evening.
Ladies and gentlemen,
my next guest, please welcome
Malala Yousafzai.
[audience cheers]
How are you?
- Thank you.
- It's a great pleasure to meet you.
Watch your step here.
Thank you so much.
- Thank you.
- Thank you very much.
Thank you, everyone.
How long have you been in New York?
- I think probably two days.
- A few days? Do you like New York?
I know you've been before.
Do you like New York?
Many times.
- Yeah.
- And I saw The Lion King recently,
- and I just loved it.
- Loved The Lion King.
You know, people in New York City
like myself,
we think of New York
as the greatest city in the world.
Do you share that impression?
What do you mean by the greatest?
Well, I'm not under oath here,
but it's like
It's where everything happens.
Well, things happen in other
Like, in other places as well.
I think New York is a really busy,
energetic city
- Yes.
- but I would never live here,
because I want to live somewhere
where it's calm and quiet,
and I can just relax a bit.
Well, it's so nice to have you.
I have seen youin so many places,
and I have read so much about you,
and I feel I know a lot about you,
but I don't know that I know you.
And I'm hopeful that tonight
we get to know one another.
Because, I mean, you're
You're unique in civilization,
and your story and your mission.
And I want to--
Whether it's true or not,
I want to tell people later
that we're friends.
- We are. We are.
- We're friends, aren't we?
- Yes.
- Yeah.
You are in Birmingham, in--
You go to Oxford?
Yes. I recently got admission in PPE,
which is philosophy,
politics, and economics,
and I did my first term,
and I just loved it.
- Mm-hmm.
- [audience cheers]
I watched your address
when you won the Nobel Prize.
And at that point,
you were 17 years old,
- something like that?
- Yes.
- Seventeen years old?
- Yes.
I have found that people describe me
in many different ways.
Some people call me
the girl who was shot by the Taliban.
And some, the girl
who fought for her rights.
Some people call me a Nobel laureate now.
However, my brothers still call me
"that annoying bossy sister."
I'm just a committed
and even stubborn person
who wants to see every child
getting quality education
who wants to see women
having equal rights
and who wants peace
in every corner of the world.
The speech was beautiful
and so well-executed,
and such great poise.
Where does that come from? Has--
You've always been a talker?
You learned English, I'm guessing,
from your father. Is that correct?
[Malala] So my family,
my grandfather was a teacher,
my uncle was a teacher,
my father was a teacher,
so we have so may teachers
in our family.
And I have learned a lot about speaking
and how to deliver your message
from my grandfather and from my father.
What I really wanted to do
in that speech was to say that
I was receiving the award
not just for myself,
but for girls all over the world,
those 130 million girls
who are out of school.
So I wanted to go and speak
on behalf of girls--
- 130 million?
- Yes.
Around the world, young women
who do not have the benefit of education.
And that is your mission
to call attention to that.
- Yes.
- How do we fix that?
I have started campaigning for this
when my education was banned.
I was in Swat Valley,
in a beautiful place,
and our schools were banned
by these extremists called the Taliban.
They would always say
that the Taliban wouldn't bother
a school kid, a young girl.
But they did, they came and got you.
Had there been threats
on you specifically?
I know you had--
Had spoken out nationally in Pakistan.
Was there an imminent threat
that you sensed?
Was it the increased identity? Were you--
I mean, what triggered this? Do you know?
So I was nominated for
an International Children's Peace Prize,
and when that news came out,
it was such a big thing for Pakistan.
And before that, media knew me
because I was speaking out through media,
I was writing blog,
I was doing documentaries,
and speaking out to local channels.
And so media kind of knew me,
and when they heard that I was getting
an award, they were just so happy.
And I got to meet the prime minister
and the chief minister,
then I raised the issue of investment
in girls' education,
and that we have to find--
Fight against early child marriages,
and poverty, and get girls into school.
And this kind of like--
You become kind of a hero
for your country,
and it was that point then
that they targeted me.
Let me ask you, do you mind
talking about the actual attack?
I know you've talked about it
and talked about it and talked about it.
And what I know of it is
the school bus, I think,
coming back from school one day?
I was 15 years old
when that happened, and
my father was worried about me
all the time,
so was my mom,
and he always told me, like,
not to say anything against the Taliban,
just talk about education if I want to.
And he was very outspoken.
He would speak openly
against extremists, against the Taliban,
and he was not afraid.
His name was mentioned
on the FM radio locally
about the extrem-- About the Taliban,
and they wanted to target him,
but, like, I'm just so grateful
that he's safe, he's now alive.
But we were not expecting
that they would go
and they would target-- Kill a child.
And then they did, which was
But things happen, and I'm
I'm just now alive, here.
What you reference when you say
"things happen"
is you being shot in the face
at point-blank range.
That's not just "things happen."
So the bus is coming home from school.
You see guys approaching the bus.
Two-- Was it two guys?
Two men?
- Actually, I don't remember the incident.
- You don't.
I don't remember the incident,
and I think--
Which is good in a sense,
'cause I don't have to look back
and say something happened,
'cause to me it's just a story,
it's just like a fable.
I just don't think it has happened to me.
I do find it strange that I woke up
in a different country.
People were speaking in English,
and there was this hospital,
and doctors were moving around,
and there were nurses, and--
And I just said, "What is happening?"
And I was completely shocked,
because all I remembered
was sitting with my friends
in my school bus,
and talking about our exams
and smiling and laughing,
and then suddenly waking up
in a different place.
Where were my parents?
Where was my father?
And I thought my father
was attacked as well.
The bullet hit me right here
on the left side of my forehead,
and it went down through the neck
back to the shoulder.
So It was just one bullet,
but it had hit, like, the eardrum,
and the facial nerve,
and also, like, the brain was swelling,
so it needed space,
so they had to remove part of the skull.
They removed that and--
So I did not have any bone here.
And they put it in my stomach,
so I felt like
there was something hard here,
and it stayed in my stomach
for three months.
Then later on
they did more surgeries as well,
from the facial nerve surgery
and cochlear implant,
which is like a hearing aid,
and some other surgeries as well.
- That's remarkable.
- Yeah.
I was in a different world.
People never ask me about that,
like how I felt when I was there.
I did not know that
hundreds and thousands of people
were speaking out,
Pakistan and all over the world.
I did not know that now people
were recognizing education
important for girls.
So all I was thinking was about
going back to Pakistan.
My father, when he was--
When my family was coming,
I called him the day before
and I asked him to bring my physics book,
because I said, "I have exam in March,
and I have to do these questions."
And he said,
"Oh, well, but I'm in Islamabad
and I can't get books."
I said, "You can get the books anywhere.
Just bring the books."
And then they came,
and I then realized soon
that things were quite different.
Why was Birmingham the destination?
Why did you go there?
It's because of the time.
Because I was in that critical condition,
so I could not take long journey.
So, for example, to the US,
I couldn't make it.
I would have died.
And then in the UK,
that hospital is known--
There is a hospital in Birmingham,
Queen Elizabeth Hospital,
that is known for--
That it kind of can treat people
who get injured in wars,
like in Iraq and Afghanistan,
and so it is the best place for
That sort of trauma.
And
God forbid, let's say
you did not survive the attack
who would take up the cause?
I think when I was attacked
many people stood up,
and I would hope that many people
would have stood up,
stood up against extremists,
against not just extremists,
not just the people,
but against the ideology.
That's what we have to fight,
the ideology that exists there,
that does not accept
women as equal to men,
that does not accept women
to have the right to education,
that does not accept women
to have the right to do a job,
to decide her own future.
That is an ideology, and we have to fight
against that ideology,
whether it exists in the mountains
of Pakistan,
whether it exists in these big cities,
in New York, or in Washington,
or anywhere.
We have to challenge those--
We have to fight those ideologies.
And how to fix it?
I think the answer is easy.
Like, the governments
need to invest more money into education,
business people,
everyone who is part of society,
they need to start thinking about
investing in girls and their education.
We just need an ambition and an intention.
What to do is then easy.
Easy. Well, in a lot of places,
and in this country,
I think budgets for education
are being cut.
This is really tragic
that this is happening.
And it does worry me that
these leaders, they talk about
eradicating extremism and ending poverty,
and then they ignore education.
That's the first thing
that you need to do.
You need to give education
to the future generation
and allow them the opportunity
to follow their dreams
and then contribute to the economy
and to their countries.
So I just don't know why
they don't get it.
[Letterman] Have you been here before?
[Malala] No, I haven't been here before.
[Letterman]
Why did you want to be a tour guide?
- [Malala] I like doing that.
- Yeah.
I'm just part of my college, and I want
to show off my college to students
and encourage them that they should apply.
But they must know the story of your life.
And if it was me,
I would be so in awe of you and your life,
I don't know if I could concentrate.
I don't really want them to ask me
questions about my personal things.
Maybe one or two questions, that's okay,
but I don't want the tour
to be focused on me.
Yeah, you don't want
to upstage the college,
- if that's possible.
- Yeah.
And what do the initials mean?
What do they stand for?
- LMH, or PPE?
- Yeah.
It's philosophy, politics, and economics.
Now, would you want
to hold a political position?
- Me, no.
- Yeah.
To be honest, like, all--
People just assume
that if you study PPE at Oxford,
then you are gonna go into politics,
but that's not true. Only if
There are some politicians
who have studied the same course
and got into politics,
including David Cameron
and Benazir Bhutto.
[Letterman]
What does that do for you emotionally
to see Benazir Bhutto
a woman prime minister of Pakistan?
I think firstly,
it reminds you that we have lost a leader.
We have lost a woman leader,
and she's an inspiration
and she told women, not just
in Pakistan, but around the world,
that they can be leaders,
and they can be
prime ministers and presidents.
Will there ever be another
woman leader of a Muslim country?
I think definitely. Definitely, for sure.
Soon?
- Very soon. I hope so. I hope so.
- Yeah.
Not just Muslim countries,
I think for all countries.
Like, even in the US,
we still don't have a woman president.
Yes, we have--
We've all noticed that. Yes.
Now, I know nothing about the Taliban.
I just I used to
I was on their mailing list for a while.
- But I don't hear much from them anymore.
- Okay.
What--
What, at the core of that theology
do they have against women,
education of women?
What-- Where does that come from?
Why is that in them?
Why are they doing that?
When Taliban came to Swat Valley,
they banned girls' education,
they stopped women from going
to markets, from going out.
Right. Based on what?
They said, "We don't women--
We don't want women in school,
we don't want them in the market."
This, to me, is born of fear.
What are they afraid of?
They use the name of Islam for that,
and they said, "This is what God tells us.
This is the message of God,"
but they were completely wrong,
but I think
So it's a misinterpretation?
Yes, but sometimes I think
that they're more clever
than some other leaders in the world,
because they knew that education
can empower women.
And they recognized that.
Because they knew that
if that woman is educated,
when she goes into school,
she's going to be independent,
she's going to be
making her own decisions,
she's going to have her own status,
she's going to be doing jobs,
she's going to be going out of her house,
and have that personal identity,
and they just did not want that,
because they knew that
They just cannot accept
and tolerate women as equal,
which is really unfortunate,
like, this idea of
This is misogyny.
You want men to be superior,
you consider women to be not wise,
their brain is weaker, they're inferior,
they can't make decisions like men.
It's just that old kind of
superiority complex and that misogyny.
And then you find excuses.
You find excuse of culture,
you find excuse of religion,
and you try to find ways to support that.
It's 2018.
I mean, if we
It's so barbaric, this notion.
What would happen
if you had not been shot?
Would you still be in Mingora?
As I was doing before,
I would still have been campaigning
for girls' education,
I would still have been
fighting for my education as well,
and I would have been
living my life there.
I am fascinated by the Swat Valley.
It has an unusual name,
and I looked at pictures of it,
and its mountains and rivers,
and it seems to be beautiful.
- In fact, I'm right about that.
- It is the most beautiful place,
and it is just like a paradise on Earth.
And I was living there
for all these years,
and I did not realize this until
I was moved to the UK for treatment,
and I looked down from the window,
and I said, "Where are the mountains?
Where is the river?"
And that's when I started realizing that
- it was actually a very beautiful place.
- Right.
And not just the beauty of the place,
but also the people.
Their hospitality, their love,
their kindness.
Can-- You can't go back there, can you?
You can't go back there now.
Will you ever be able to go back there?
Unfortunately, when I was
When I was attacked,
I haven't been back since then,
and it has been a very difficult time.
I tried to go,
but I didn't find the right time.
So I'm still trying to go back
and find the right time.
And I have received
a lot of support in my country.
People raise the banners of "Hi Malala."
And I think there is this lust for change.
People want to see change
in their country.
And I'm already doing work there,
but I think I want to just
I want my feet to touch that land
- and to be there.
- Yes.
Well, that's the way people feel
about their home.
The Pashtun,
it's an ethnic group
that I believe predates Islam.
- Is that correct?
- Definitely.
I think it's--
Some people say it's 6,000 years.
- Six thousand years old.
- Yes.
Most of the Pashtuns
are in the west of Pakistan,
and some are in Afghanistan,
and we speak Pashto language. Yeah.
Could you speak some?
- Here?
- Yes.
So if I say, like, hello, I'd say:
[speaks in Pashto]
Yeah. How about this?
"Dave, you're much
younger looking in person."
[audience laughs]
[speaks in Pashto]
"You're really young."
Well, God bless you. Thank you.
So I'm doing some research about Pashtun,
and I see precepts
that the culture abides by.
One is hospitality.
- Definitely. That is--
- So define that.
If you have a relative or a friend
and they come to the house?
Okay, so if you are in the Pashtun area,
you don't have to tell anyone
that you're going to their house.
You just go and you knock on their door.
If their door is open, you don't even
knock, you just get in there.
And this is a tradition that
we don't usually lock our doors
during the daytime,
the doors are always open.
And you just go in there,
and they would just welcome you,
they'd make tea for you, dinner.
They won't even ask you,
"Would you like to have a cup of tea?"
- That is so offensive.
- Automatic.
That is so offensive.
Another one of the precepts is asylum.
Is it different than just hospitality?
Like hospitality might be
somebody comes by for dinner.
Asylum means I need a place to stay
- till Labor Day.
- Definitely.
So when guests come to your house,
like my relatives would come
and they would stay for a day,
for a week, for months,
and they would just stay.
Because they're part of your family,
your friends, you can't say no.
And you can't tell someone
that, oh, like
we need to go somewhere, or like--
You just can't tell them to go,
'cause as long as they want to,
they'll stay.
And you, as the host family,
comfortable with that?
You have to be comfortable.
So theoretically--
And believe me, this is not
gonna happen, don't worry.
Okay.
Me, my wife, and my son
show up at your house.
- You're welcome.
- We're welcome to stay
- as long as we would like?
- Yes.
- Wow.
- Yeah.
And you wouldn't
go to your friends and say,
"Oh, my God, the Lettermans--
I don't know when he's"?
None of that would happen?
That's something else. Like
[audience laughs]
To you, we wouldn't show that.
- You'd be happy. Yes.
- I'd be happy. Yeah.
Yeah. But that's remarkable.
Now, the other one
was a very powerful sense
to right a wrong
in the form of revenge.
- Do I understand that properly?
- That's correct.
These things do happen,
like honor killing.
So a brother sees that
his sister is seen with--
Is in a relationship with someone,
they would kill their sisters
in the name of honor.
But we are challenging that,
and people are standing up against that.
And now what we say is that
the best revenge is forgiveness.
So people are changing it.
I'm a Pashtun, and I thought that
the people who targeted me
and who tried to attack me,
like, I forgive them because
that's the best revenge I can have.
The person who actually attacked me
was a young boy.
Similar age as me.
And he thought that
he was doing the right thing,
and that he was targeting
this person who was evil,
and, like, he was doing a good job.
So I think we really need to,
like, help people,
'cause they're just people like us.
See, to me, things like this
don't happen by luck.
There's a purpose here.
Do you feel that way?
Because anybody else
takes a round in the face
they're not later gonna be talking
to an old guy on a TV show.
So there's some meaning here,
some other higher force at work.
I think there might be,
but even if there isn't,
that you yourself can make a decision.
And when I woke up,
and I realized that I have survived
such a brutal attack,
and I saw death so close,
and I realized that maybe this life
is for a purpose.
And I decided that I'll give this life
to girls' education,
and speak out for them,
and give it purpose.
Because we have to die one day, and
So why not do good
and do as much as we can
- to help others?
- What?
[audience applauds]
So back to the experience at Oxford.
Do you go out?
Can you go to--
What do you do for fun there?
So in Oxford, there's a lot to read,
and you get a lot of work and assignments,
so you have to keep that in mind
whatever you do,
whatever you plan to do.
And so there are talks happening,
there are seminars,
there are lectures, teas,
there is a big Pakistani society,
and Islamic society,
there's a Hindu society.
So many things happening.
And I just love it.
Like every day, I'm just busy
doing something with my friends,
and then the day before the deadline
I remember I have
an assignment to do, and I stress,
'cause I have done
all other things the week,
and then I am trying to do
my assignment and hand it in.
So I can't thank you enough
for being here with me
when you probably
would rather be studying.
I would--
I think it's an honor to be here.
- All right, you ready?
- Yes.
I think by the end of the day
you will have grown to love me. Right?
Yes.
So next, we'll go to the library.
We're gonna go to the library.
Oh, this is beautiful. Wow.
So welcome to LMH library.
This is something
I'm really curious about.
Do you have any Harry Potter?
Harry Potter books.
I'm not sure we have Harry Potter books.
They hate me.
So we'll go to the dining hall.
So this is LMH dining hall.
You get food all days of the week.
And-- Yes?
Are we gonna eat?
- If you want.
- Are you--
You ever had KFC?
Yeah.
Yeah. It's good, right? It'll kill you.
I just-- I'll be in the kitchen.
I'll be right--
You guys go ahead. I'm gonna go
take a look at the kitchen.
Excuse me, Board of Health.
Board of Health.
- Hello.
- Hi.
It's inspection time.
Oh, man, they got pancakes.
Did you see the chow here?
I think Dave wants to eat something.
- Good morning.
- Good morning.
How are you?
[Letterman]
Do you guys watch The Crown?
- I'm afraid not.
- Yeah.
Bob.
So I like it here because it's quiet
and you don't get many tourists here.
You know, she has a Nobel Peace Prize.
I have two Daytime Emmys.
I'm intimidated, and I'm going here.
So are you enjoying it so far?
Well, I'm stunned by the buildings
and the grounds.
- What are those guys doing?
- I have no idea.
You guys don't live here, do you?
Not in this garden, no.
Oh, yeah, but in this little house
would be very comfortable.
This is my bedroom.
- How long have you been in Oxford?
- I've been here almost three years.
And then what will happen?
Then hopefully I'll be employed.
What would you want to do?
Journalism's my ambition.
Oh, journalism.
Now is the time, my friend.
Now is the time.
- All right, carry on.
- Thank you very much.
Look at this. This bench
has been there since 1953.
Whoa.
There seems to be something
on fire over there, Malala.
Yes, seems like.
Should we report that,
or we're all right?
- Oh, we're all right I assume.
- Okay.
How about that?
Yes, you're allowed to feed them
and eat them.
No, I feel sorry for them.
This is exciting.
So this is graduate building.
I think this is, like,
the senior common room.
- I'm not sure you can play this.
- Yeah, we're gonna play.
Who wants-- Now, you know
how to play foosball, right? Anybody?
- Yeah.
- All right, let's go.
Is everyone ready?
Well, we're playing
for a hundred pounds.
And no No spinning.
Oh, I'm so bad at this.
- Don't-- Get it.
- Oh, one goal.
What's the matter with you?
You didn't see that?
[Letterman] Oh, nice save.
- Oh, no!
- Come on.
Yeah!
- Congratulations.
- Thank you.
- I owned them.
- That was fun.
What do you see for yourself
beyond Oxford?
I want to finish my course.
And after that, I just want to continue
my work for girls' education.
That's what I have dedicated my life to.
And I want to see more and more girls
getting quality education,
getting empowered,
and becoming the leaders
of today and tomorrow.
[audience applauds]
Let me-- How is your father, by the way?
He's very well, and he's with me here.
- And he's great.
- He
As I saw him in various scenarios
of your life
he seemed to be so optimistic
and so energetic and happy.
Is that a fair evaluation of your dad?
That's very true. And he was optimistic
even during the worst days
of our life in Swat Valley
when there was terrorism,
and he stayed positive.
And even now, he's positive.
Like he wants-- He dreams,
so he's a dreamer. Like, he dreams,
he wants to see everything better,
and he keeps on fighting for it.
I'm really proud of him,
because, like, you might have heard
in the story and in the book
that he He objected the
Any discrimination that he saw
in his life against women.
Right from the beginning when
his cousin brought our family tree,
and it was all full of men's name,
and there was no woman's name mentioned.
And my father wrote down my name,
the first girl's name on the family tree.
So he was challenging all those
stereotypes that were there,
and he was actually acting.
So that's what I like about my father,
that he does things.
Well, let me--
I can't help but escape this,
as I studied you and watched you
and learned of you.
I have a 14-year-old son,
and if I was your father
and you were my daughter,
I would say, "You know what?
I'm gonna fight this injustice
because I have two boys
and a daughter and a wife.
This needs to be addressed,
I'm gonna fight it,
but I'm sending my family away."
Was that ever a likelihood?
We didn't have any home anywhere else.
Our home was Swat Valley.
We just did not know where else to go.
What about that Pashtun hospitality deal?
It's when we--
So we were in Swat, and then a point came
when we became refugees,
and this was the point
when Pashtun hospitality came,
because we did not have, like,
home anywhere else,
and, like, we had some relatives
in our village, Shangla,
but we could not do activism there.
So we went to other cities,
and my father's friends welcomed us,
but also the other--
I think more than two million people
were displaced because of that,
and most of them were welcomed
by other people.
Now, is something wrong with me?
I mean, I'm different--
Well
I think we all know the answer to that.
But am I too selfish?
I would think
I mean, what I understand of your life,
of your hometown,
and of your school
and the surrounding threat
Get out.
That's all I would think about,
is get out.
Your father must be
I'd feel guilty.
I'd feel guilty if I
- If you left, yeah.
- Yeah.
So your-- But what I'm saying
is your father is far more courageous
has far greater strength
of conviction than I do.
[audience laughs]
- Yeah.
- He is brave,
because if he was not speaking out,
I would not have spoken out,
because you need a role model.
There was someone who I could
look up to and I followed him.
- Oh, hello.
- Hello.
- Especially for you.
- Oh, beautiful.
Thank you so much.
Okay. We have no money.
[waitress] Well
- I'll do this one.
- Yeah, well, thank you very much.
[Letterman]
One wonders if there will be another
female prime minister in a Muslim country,
and you can't help
but think of your daughter.
To be honest, we just want Malala
to exist in our life.
We leave her dreams to her.
As a father, I will support her
if she wants to be
a change-maker in any way.
My wife, believe me, we get scared,
because we have been through
a very difficult situation in our life.
The first and foremost thing
is her safety.
That's very much important, and
I mean, with her very existence,
I can feel now
that she is making a big change
in the world.
Did you blame yourself? Did you--
You couldn't help but feel guilty.
Any parent would feel that--
"Oh, have I
Have I put my child in peril
by my behavior?"
That's the worst fear,
I think, for a parent, that--
I have a son who's 14,
and I worry about it
every minute of the day.
- Is my behavior
- Yeah, of course.
jeopardizing the welfare of my son?
Of course I was thinking that:
could I have stopped her,
should I have stopped her?
But to be honest, I couldn't have.
Because I remembered
that in many occasions,
I used to tell her don't say "Taliban,"
the word "Taliban"
and she didn't obey me.
She used to go to stage and say "Taliban."
And she told me once
that everybody is afraid of them.
We should first name them, who they are.
So she was unstoppable.
But I must tell you
that I asked my wife and she said,
"We should blame the bad guys
who did that."
- Yeah.
- You didn't do anything wrong.
In such circumstances,
the worst thing is
not to say anything.
- You're absolutely right.
- Yeah.
Yeah, you can't feel guilty
- about the bad behavior of others.
- Exactly.
All right, let's try some of this.
Holy crap that's good.
- Have you tried this?
- Yeah, I tried.
Man.
Tell me about your travels.
- You have been to Syria?
- Yeah.
I've been to Jordan and Lebanon
to see the Syrian refugees.
To see the Syrian refugees, that's right.
- And what can be done there?
- So unfortunately
most of the refugees have been there
for four to five years,
and I think more than half the children
cannot have access to quality education.
And often the education of refugees
is not taken seriously,
because they think refugees
are gonna be there for a while,
and why invest in their education?
But education is one of the essentials.
If these children
want to have a future,
if they're rebuilding their country again,
they must have education,
especially the education of women,
because they're gonna contribute
to the economy,
their children
are more likely to be healthy,
and their families are more likely
to be healthy and more prosperous.
So investment in education
is just so important.
I think that's the best way
in which we can help them.
And you went to Africa and built a school?
So I was in Nigeria, I was also in Kenya,
and we have done work there.
I built a school in Lebanon.
In For Syrian refugees.
And we are also working
on a school in Pakistan.
But my main goal is actually
to empower local leaders.
I believe in the power of campaigning,
in the power of raising your voice,
which is something
me and my father were doing.
And right now, we're doing this
in Asia as well, in Africa,
in Latin America.
We are expanding our work,
and I can already see an impact.
And also I believe in the empowerment
of local young girls.
Because once you empower young girls,
they can bring change.
I was a young girl, I raised my voice,
and I could change the world.
And I believe there are other
young girls out there.
If you give them support,
they can raise their voice
and they can change the world.
[audience applauds]
What do you think about President Trump?
Well, I'm in the UK,
so, what do you think about him?
[audience laughs, applauds]
[laughs]
I
I have many things to say on this topic.
And you want me to be candid, right?
Yeah.
I believe
Oh, boy.
I feel personally,
not politically, but personally,
he's not fit to represent me.
[audience applauds]
I don't think he's fit to represent
anybody in this room.
I
I mean, when you hear stuff over there
I know, a ban on Muslims and
I'm a Muslim.
It just seems-- What is this,
you got a duck for a president?
What's going on?
Yes, I think some of the things
have really disappointed me,
like things about sexual harassment
and ban on Muslims and racism.
You see all these things,
and you feel that America
being known for human rights
and country of liberty and freedom,
like, that country should be leading
in terms of human rights.
It has democracy. Such a strong democracy.
- That's what we celebrate.
- Well
I mean, the notion I mentioned earlier,
is New York City
the greatest city in the world?
Is the United States
the greatest country in the world?
And to be the greatest country
in the world,
you have to be a leader
in all of these areas
that are now being sullied.
And you've got the car in reverse
if you're doing that.
By the way, do you drive?
I have been taking lessons,
but I haven't passed.
Like, I haven't done any test or
And who gives you the lessons?
Driving instructor.
You have a driving instructor?
And what do you guys do?
Where do you go?
We just go around the roads.
Yeah.
Oh, just go around the roads, yeah.
I took, I think, ten, 12 lessons.
I was so bad. Like
Now, were you taking lessons in England,
- or you were--
- England, yes.
Well, that--- They just--
Forget everything you're learning now.
Because they-- They're crazy, you know.
- How?
- They--
You're sitting
on the wrong side of the car.
No.
And you're driving
And, I'll give them that.
You know, I feel like a person
ought to be able to sit
wherever a person wants to sit in a car.
I'm fine with that.
But then they're driving
on the wrong side of the road.
I find it hard here.
I just think you guys
go on the wrong side.
I know, that's what I'm saying.
But it's completely wrong.
And
And one day you'll call me
and we'll get this straightened out.
Let's do something--
You want to do something stupid?
How stupid?
It's a little thing here.
- Okay.
- Okay?
All you have to do
is pick one or the other.
- Okay.
- Okay?
You ever done anything like this?
No.
Day or night?
Day.
Why?
Day is positive,
you're doing a lot of things.
You see people, you see friends,
you see the beauty of the world.
So I prefer day.
- Yeah.
- I'd be the opposite.
- Why?
- I like being asleep.
I can-- You can sleep
during the day as well though.
No. No, no.
If you're sleeping during the day,
something has gone terribly wrong.
Hot or cold?
Hot.
I'm in England, so I hate cold.
It's cold and damp there,
that's the problem.
- Yeah.
- Cold on its own
- Yes.
- not that bad.
- Cold and damp--
- Raining.
- Yeah, raining.
- All the time. Clouds, rain.
So hot.
Pizza, tacos?
I'm not a big fan of this kind of food.
[audience laughs]
- Really?
- Yeah.
Now
Tacos, I can see, eh, maybe, no, no, no,
but pizza Have you had pizza?
Yeah, a few times.
Like, friends-- I go out with friends,
so then I have no option,
because they all order pizza.
They go to a pizza place,
so there's no option.
You have to order pizza,
'cause you are in a pizza place.
- I understand.
- Yeah.
Rivers, lakes?
- Rivers.
- Rivers. I'm with you on that.
- Yeah.
- Come on, let's do this.
Yankees, Mets?
What's Yankees?
[audience laughs, applauds]
Local baseball teams.
I know you like cricket.
This is what cricket is supposed to be,
is baseball.
Okay.
Does Oxford have a cricket team?
- Yes.
- And do you go see the cricket?
I have joined the cricket club.
You've joined the cricket club?
Yeah. We used to play it
on our rooftop, in the streets.
No rules, nothing,
just shouting at each other,
creating new rules.
And my brothers and us,
we have played this our whole life.
Jay-Z, Kanye?
I say Jay-Z, Kanye?
See, I don't listen to their music.
What kind of music do you like?
Any latest songs,
but I just would not really, like,
look to who the artist is and
But I would say Jay-Z. Let's go for Jay-Z.
Yeah.
That's all I got there.
Good.
Is there anything you would like to say?
I would just like to say thank you
to you for allowing me to be here
and to speak, and also
giving me the opportunity
to highlight the issue of education.
We all are trying our best
to create a better world,
and one of the best ways to do that
is to invest in girls and their education.
It's going to help the girls,
but also each and every one of us,
growing economies faster,
helping us reduce poverty,
tackle child marriages, and
So I really want people
to come and engage in this
and show their support
for girls' education,
and empower their sisters
around the world.
I'm gonna say something now,
and I hope I'm able to articulate this,
but I know three people like you.
One would think that
I would only know one person
your situation is unique,
but I know two other people.
And it's the same dynamic,
and it's the same reason
that makes me know
that there is a purpose
to something like this.
A friend of mine
years and years ago
when she was probably your age
was diagnosed with multiple myeloma.
The doctor came to her and said,
"Good news, we know what it is.
It's multiple myeloma.
The bad news is there's nothing
we can do about it."
She then, with her sister, said,
"Well, this is not right."
And they went after a cure, a treatment.
And since the diagnosis,
she has two adult sons
and is helping people around the world
who have this diagnosis,
what used to be a death sentence.
Another friend of mine,
when he was a kid older than you,
was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease
and he behaved in the same way
and put all of his energy
to finding cures and treatments
to work on Parkinson's disease.
Yousuffered a horrendous trauma
when you were a kid, really a kid.
So in all three cases
seeds of evil were planted.
And from that planting
has flowered something beautiful.
It's an amazing thing.
[audience applauds]
I'm done talking.
- I can ask you a few questions.
- Okay.
Okay. Beard or no beard?
[audience laughs]
- Malala, ladies and gentlemen.
- Thank you so much.
[audience cheers, applauds]
[jazzy theme music plays]
Are you all right?
- Yeah.
- Is that okay?
Thank you. Thank you so much.
- Watch your step here.
- Thank you so much.
I need to
I want to get something for my son.
So you do want to actually,
like, buy something?
Yeah. He's partial to hoodies.
I'm getting this for myself.
Whoa. Whoa.
- The best one.
- Yeah.
Man. Do you want one of these?
I'm fine.
I know you're fine. Everybody's fine.
- I'm--
- Yeah, sure.
- Okay. Two of those.
- Thank you.
- Thank you for this.
- Yeah.
You know what I would really like?
I would really like an honorary degree.
- Okay.
- And I--
You must know somebody there
who can do that.
Just maybe a little something that I could
put there that says Oxford.
Those are beautiful.
You should get the Lady Margaret Hall.
All right,
I'll get the Lady Margaret Hall.
Would you like to wear it?
I would like you to pin it on me.
I announce that you are now an alumni.
- Thank you.
- Congratulations on this title.
- Thank you.
- You're welcome.
- Would you like here?
- Anywhere.
Ow!
Jiminy!
- I didn't even touch anything.
- I know.
You can do that on your friends.
Big laughs.