See No Evil: The Moors Murders (2006) s01e02 Episode Script
Episode 2
1
We are sisters, Moby,
and nothing will ever get
in the way of that.
We were only saying
it's time Dave came here.
Has to be an easier way of getting
money, eh? Rob a bank.
Mr Mounsey. Thank you.
You don't thank me for anything
until I've found your son.
Unless we pay him the £14/8s rent
arrears by Saturday, we're out.
I suppose we could obtain the money
from a third party.
Come in when the lights flash.
Ian's killed a man!
They say they've seen somebody
killed, sir.
You stick by Dave and not Myra.
You're no daughter of mine.
TELEPHONE RINGS
Brady's admitted killing the lad.
We're not letting him go anywhere.
What about Smith? The toerag looks
as though he's telling the truth,
so we'll release him for now.
And the girlfriend?
There's no evidence of direct
involvement in the murder,
so we'll let her go.
SOBBING
(WOMAN WEEPS)
Edward Evans's parents.
Been identifying the body.
Thank you.
Can you go?
So they believe you?
Dunno.
They've let Myra go too, thank God.
What?
So she can't have been involved.
Why did you lie to me, Dave?
I didn't lie!
She's the one that's lying!
She must have fibbed her way
out of it.
Let's just get out of here.
WOMAN: I just want to know
what's going on.
I'm fed up of this lot,
now get out of here!
We haven't got time to mess around
with you.
Sir. We found the wallet
inside the car.
This is Brady's car?
No, Hindley's. Brady doesn't drive.
Found three sheets of paper in here.
We got them copied.
What is this?
A kind of disposal plan for a body.
OK. Explain it to me.
We think hat is hatchet.
Rec?
Reconnaissance?
Check periodically unmoved.
Check what's unmoved?
Body? Bodies?
Tick WHPB.
No. God knows.
Is this where it happened?
Aye. Hard to believe, isn't it?
Must have spent ages cleaning up
this place.
So where was the body found?
Over by the window.
Foetal position,
body wrapped in polythene.
Bit of a photographer, is he, then,
Brady?
Fond of moors by the looks of it.
Isn't that her?
Aye, that's her.
Come to see her granny, I expect.
Had to boot her out of here,
obviously.
Are you sure you've done the right
thing letting her go?
That was Benfield's decision.
What do you think, sir?
I think the plan was to get rid of
the body using the car.
Look. "Car. Remove all moveable
objects. Clean cover floor
and seat fresh Poly at night."
This is her car!
He doesn't even drive, you said.
Who else is going to drive the car,
for Christ sakes?
How can she possibly
not be involved?
DOG BARKS
(TO DOG) Stop it!
'Ey, come here!
Shut up!
Mrs Smith?
Yes
DCI Mounsey, Ashton Police.
I need to speak to your husband.
Dave Smith?
What?
Go on, get in there.
You told DCS Benfield
Brady claimed he killed others.
Yeah, well, he wasn't listening,
was he? Well, I am!
Did he say who he killed?
Or when or where?
No.
And you didn't ask?
Why should I?
Even when he told you he was going
to use guns for this bank job?
What bank job?
Dave, what's this?
Ian had this stupid idea about
robbing a bank. What?
Bloody idiot! I didn't know if
he was serious or not, did I?
Even when we got rid of stuff from
the suitcases, I didn't know.
What stuff? Stuff they thought would
be incriminating.
What exactly was in these suitcases?
'Ey?! Answer me!
There was some books of mine.
The rest was theirs.
I just helped them put the cases in
the car, then they drove off. Where?
I don't know.
He must have said something. Where?
Well, they might have said something
about left luggage.
"They"? So Myra was in on this too,
yeah?
Yeah. Ian said she was gonna drive
the getaway car.
Jesus Christ, Dave,
what else haven't you told me?
You're just digging a big hole
for yourself.
You think you're clever,
but you're not.
We've heard Brady's version,
and we've heard what Dave says.
I've already told you.
I've got nothing to say.
My version of events of that evening
are exactly the same as Ian's
version of events.
We found a piece of paper in Myra's
car with the initials WH on it.
I think that stands for Woodhead,
and that's here.
Don't know. Well, these are
the nearest moors to Hattersley.
They took us to different places.
So should you and me go for a walk
here?
You don't really think there are
bodies up here?
I'm trying not to think anything,
love.
Butif there are, I mean
they can't be anything to do with
Myra.
You said Brady made some remark
about you having stood on the grave
of one of his victims.
Ian and Myra drove us up to the
moors.
Me and Ian went for a walk and there
was a reservoir below us.
'He wanted me to stand
in a particular place.'
Here!
Do you think this is the spot?
Is this the spot?
I don't know.
Thank you.
I believe that with David Smith
you discussed killing people
and burying them on the moors.
It was all part of the fiction,
to impress him.
Smith says you said that Evans'
murder was the messiest yet.
Why say that if there were no
others?
That was to do with the situation
we were in.
I've got nothing to say. My version
of events of that evening
is exactly the same as Ian's.
But it's not your version, is it,
it's Ian's!
You're just using his words.
Is it Brady says, Myra does?
How many more times
do I need to tell you?
There was an accident.
My version of events is exactly
the same as Ian's.
Tell me about this fiction
to impress Smith.
Ask Smith.
No, I'm asking you.
I told you Ask Smith.
I've done nothing.
As far as I know, Ian's done
nothing.
Dave Smith's a bloody little liar.
Tell us exactly what went on
that night!
There was an accident.
That's all I'm saying.
Shall we call it murder?
Why did you take THAT photograph?
Well, I er
..must have been attracted
by the composition.
Why is Myra looking at the ground?
You'd have to ask her that.
I'm asking the photographer.
Why is she looking at the ground?
Was there something special about
that piece of ground?
Is it cos it's a grave?
Is this you standing on a grave?
Is this her standing on a grave?
Is this your personal graveyard?
Pictures.
Just pictures?
And that place, that grave,
that was Woodhead, wasn't it?
In that general area, aye.
But again, it was a fiction.
I've got police officers from three
forces up there right now
digging up your fiction.
Well, that is a monumental exercise
in futility, my friend.
OFFICER: Just keep going.
You'll keep yourself warmer.
Make sure you push the stick really
deep.
Can't you tell us
what's happening up here?
Well, we've got members of the
public helping with the search.
They've come from far and wide.
If we find anything with the sticks
and they smell like human remains
Thank you.
Don't miss anywhere.
The search of moorland adjacent
to the A628 Woodhead Pass
has been going on
for over two days now.
But the police have still found
no evidence
that any bodies have been buried
there.
There's been no official
confirmation from the police
I'm sorry, Mrs Kilbride. There's
still nothing.
I see.
Mr Mounsey! Over here!
What have you got, lad?
Let's have a look.
We might have something here, sir.
No, it's just a dead sheep.
All right, keep at it, lads.
I'm going to mention some names
to you.
Names of children.
I just want you to tell me
if you've heard of them.
Lesley Ann Downey.
Never heard of her.
Keith Bennett.
John Kilbride.
Never heard of him.
All right, then. Have you heard of
Pauline Reade?
Is that funny, Myra?
I knew Pauline Reade.
I grew up with her.
I liked her.
Lesley Ann Downey.
Have you heard of Lesley Ann Downey?
It has been pretty public.
Papers, television, rewards.
Nobody at work ever mention
Lesley Ann Downey?
And John Kilbride.
You've never heard of him?
I don't know him. I have never heard
of him.
Have you ever been to Ashton market?
No, I have never been to Ashton
market. Never? Never.
Never been to Ashton market.
Where do you shop, then?
I shop at Adsega's sometimes.
I go into the city centre.
Where do YOU shop?
The John Kilbride I'm talking about
went missing from Ashton market
23rd of November 1963.
And I'm supposed to have murdered him
and buried him on the moors?
I believe so, yes.
And I suppose I did the same
to the other names in this book,
yeah?
Joan Crawford.
Robert Urquhart.
Alec Guinness.
Deary me. I mean
Alec will be sorry to hear of the
premature end of his acting career.
Do you have children?
Eh?
Two.
Hm
Well, I can understand why this is
an emotional subject for you.
We'll not get a cough out of him.
Come on, lads. I know you're tired
but you're doing a grand job.
You see, the ground she's on here is
quite flat and stony.
I've been all over, I can't find
any ground like that round here.
You think we're looking in the wrong
place, don't you?
I don't know. If there were more
background in the photo,
something to give us
a reference point
So if WH isn't Woodhead,
what else could it stand for?
Wuthering bloody Heights
for all I know.
Prescott's not going to let this
go on for much longer.
If we don't find the bodies,
they'll get away with this.
Sir. Message from Jock Carr.
The suitcases that Smith told us
about, he's found them.
Good lad.
Right, let's have a look, then,
shall we?
Have you got a tape recorder in the
station, sir?
Jock. Go and ask the sergeant, will
you? Find a tape recorder.
Sir
Isn't that Lesley Ann Downey?
Looks like her.
Oh, fucking hell fire.
We need to talk to Smith, sir.
Jock.
# LITTLE DRUMMER BOY
# I am a poor boy too
# Pa ra pa pa pum
# I have no gifts to bring,
pa ra pa pa pum
You're right in it now, Smith.
# That's fit to give our king,
pa ra pa pa pum
# Ra pa pa pum
# Ra pa pa pum
Come on.
Hey. You better have
some bloody good answers.
# Mary nodded,
pa ra pa pa pum
What's this about?
(STOPS TAPE)
Do you recognise any of this lot?
The notebook's mine.
I don't know about the rest.
You lying little bastard!
What? What am I supposed to have
done?
You know what's on that tape,
don't you?
You know what comes before that
song!
No.
Yes, you do!
You were there when it was made!
I wasn't!
A little girl, being asked to do
unspeakable things for a man
by a woman,
crying for her mam,
begging for mercy.
Only, you didn't show any mercy,
did you?
You helped Hindley and Brady
torture and kill her.
Like you helped kill Edward Evans!
No! So, let's jog your memory.
Look at that. Who's that?
Is that Lesley Ann Downey
before you got hold of her?
Isn't she sweet? Innocent?
Isn't she trusting?
Now look what was done to her in
the bedroom of No.16.
Look at her! You were there,
weren't you? You were watching!
No, I wasn't!
So what do you think of Myra now,
then?
It might not be Myra's voice on the
tape, it might be some other woman.
It's Myra.
Do you think Dave's told you
everything about his relationship
with Ian and Myra?
Yeah.
He didn't tell you about
the armed robbery.
So what else don't you know?
What else could there be to know?
What about his sexual inclinations?
What's that got to do with anything?
Brady lent him dirty books.
Lots of people read books like that.
Doesn't mean -
And lots of people interfere with
children.
And some of them even murder 'em.
You're not saying Dave's done that?
I don't know. Do you think he could?
I'm his wife, for God's sake!
I live with him! I sleep with him!
How can you ask me that?
You live with him.
You sleep with him.
So who else would be in a better
position to know the truth?
I don't know the truth, about Dave,
about my sister
I don't know the truth about bloody
anything any more!
"Notes taken from books
I have enjoyed
He said that what she refused him
he was going to take by force,
so let the girl be stripped naked."
So, the idea of raping young girls
gives you a kick, does it?
No? "Rape is not a crime.
It is a state of mind.
Murder is a hobby
and a supreme pleasure."
I just copied that to impress him!
No, no. Come on, lad.
You enjoyed killing Edward Evans,
didn't you?
And Lesley Ann Downey.
John Kilbride. Pauline Reade.
Pauline Reade?
You think she's part of this?
I know she is.
I knew Pauline, I grew up with her!
You think I killed her?
That's exactly what Myra says.
And she's lying, And Brady's lying,
and I think you're lying too.
I haven't killed anyone! I haven't!
But you haven't told us everything,
have you?
Have you? Shall we listen to that
tape, shall we,
to that girl begging for mercy?
No!
I'll play it to you again and again
till you tell me the truth.
What haven't you told us?
Edward Evans.
What about him?
Maureen and me are in the shit
with money.
The council are threatening
to evict us.
I told Ian.
He said he'd go down Manchester,
find a businessman,
bring him back and we'd rob him.
That's why Myra came round for me
that night.
I thought we were just going
to frighten the bloke
so he'd hand over his wallet.
But I walked in and
there was Ian with the axe.
Why didn't you tell us this before?
I knew what you'd think!
You'd think what I'm trying not to -
that Evans would still be alive now
if me and Ian hadn't made that plan!
But I promise you, I haven't hurt
any children.
At least tell me you believe that!
I do actually, lad.
Good lad. Have another fag.
There may have been a plan for
a robbery, but he's no murderer.
MAUREEN: Can I wait for him?
Go on, then. Get yourself home.
Sir. 13-year-old girl from
Hattersley's come forward
with new information.
She says Brady and Hindley
befriended her, took her out for
some drives on the moors.
Does she know which moors?
Yes, she's very clear.
Wessenden Head, Saddleworth. WH!
We were in the wrong place.
Move the troops there tomorrow.
I'll call Prescott.
Oi, hang on!
They're not all Lancashire troops.
Some are Manchester's.
You're not saying you don't want us
to carry on searching, sir?
No, I'm not saying that. Just be
aware.
I can't fund an operation like this
indefinitely,
and Manchester won't either.
Thank you, sir.
Come on, lads.
Bus isn't going to wait.
Sir, sir. Don't go without us.
I need to splash my boots.
It's that cold
and he hasn't brought any gloves!
Is he going to bring any tomorrow?
Thank you, boys. Thank you.
Another good day's work, lads.
Thank you very much.
Better luck tomorrow, eh, sir?
If there is a tomorrow.
Sir?
I don't think Prescott's going to
let this go on any longer.
What, you think this really is it?
Sir! Sir, up here!
What?
Something bony sticking out of
the ground.
Yeah, just another dead sheep, lad.
I don't think so, sir.
Come on, then.
REPORTER: Is it true there's a body,
Mr Benfield?
Mr Talbot! Mr Talbot,
can you give us any details?
All right, Joe?
Yeah.
Manchester's here
now there's glory to be had.
Do we know whose body it is yet?
All I know is, it's not John
Kilbride. A little girl.
Are you ready, Dougie?
When you are, Arthur.
REPORTER: Is it male or female?
Come on, lads, give us a break.
Mr Mounsey, are there any more?
Get out of our way!
Let us through! Get back!
How many are there, Mr Talbot?
Can you give us any detail?
Is it a boy or a girl?
Are there any more?
We'll make a statement tomorrow.
Good work. Good work, excellent.
Yeah, the same to you.
Thank you very much.
Sir.
That was Professor Poulson,
Uppermill Mortuary.
Mother's identified the body.
It's Lesley Ann.
Congratulations, everyone.
What next?
Well, we charge Brady and Hindley
with the murder of Lesley Ann
Downey.
Then it's doubles on me
over at the Queen's.
What about the others?
John Kilbride, Keith Bennett,
Pauline Reade?
They're irrelevant now.
Sir?
WHAT?!
I've done another print from
the original negative.
I've brought up a lot more of
the background, and look
I swear that is Hollin Brown Knoll
in the background.
Right, Mash, are you saying if we
walk around those rocks
till we find the view that matches
this one
We should find one of the graves.
Where did you get the negative from,
Mike?
It was in the suitcases.
But all that stuff got taken away
by Manchester.
I know. I went down there and nicked
it off them.
You bad lad!
Watch your step, lad.
Watch your step.
Sir! I think it's here!
Mash?
Yeah.
Right, here we go again.
Urgh!
(GASPS)
Forensics, please, Pat.
Yes, sir.
I'll get the camera.
EXCITED VOICES
Boys, go on. In there.
No! Go! Please, do as you're told.
Lads, get out. You too.
Mum, I want to stay.
Danny
I want to stay!
Let him stay.
Let him.
Yes, that's John's.
I'm so sorry.
Sorry to disturb.
Some sad news. Your dog.
We needed to establish her age
in order to be sure that the photo
of you crouching over John
Kilbride's grave
was taken after his disappearance.
So we asked the vet to perform
a dental X-ray.
I'm sorry to say she never came
round from the anaesthetic.
You murdering fucking bastards!
Yes, well, I'm a dog lover myself,
so I can appreciate the distress.
Sorry to interrupt, sir.
Well, I'm sorry about your dog,
but we must press on.
It was a funny time of the night
to be doing house calls.
DOOR OPENS
Where's Maureen?
In the bedroom.
HUBBUB
WOMAN: Hang him!
ANGRY PROTESTS
Come on now, Mo.
You want stringing up an' all,
you bitch!
They'll put you away!
Stand there.
Please repeat after me.
I swear by Almighty God
(REPEATS)
..that the evidence I shall give
(REPEATS)
..shall be the truth, the whole
truth and nothing but the truth.
(REPEATS)
You've already admitted that
you and your husband were in trouble
with the rent.
What's that got to do with it?
You were desperate for money.
Well, yes.
You were aware your husband had
sought Brady's help over the rent.
I know he'd shown Ian the letter.
You were not aware of any further
conspiracy between them? No.
Are you not in your husband's
confidence?
I believed what he told me.
But he did not always tell you
the truth.
Nevertheless, you are married and
feel you must stand by him.
No!
Are you all right, Mrs Smith?
I'm sorry.
I'm aware of the advanced state
of your pregnancy.
Do you feel able to carry on?
I've got to, haven't I?
You've told the court that your
sister was a regular visitor
to Ashton market.
Yes, I have.
Are you quite sure about that?
There are many nearer places
to shop.
But she liked to go to Ashton.
Mrs Smith, you know it's believed
John Kilbride was abducted
from Ashton market?
Yes.
And so to imply Myra regularly went
there when she didn't
might be to dangerously mislead
the jury.
Well, why would I want to do that?
Because you have sided with your
husband against your sister.
No. All I want to do
is tell the truth!
Did you go shopping frequently
with Myra, Mrs Hindley? Yes.
To your knowledge, did she ever go
to Ashton market?
No.
(DECISIVE) No.
Can you think of any reason
why she should go there? No.
We have markets closer to home
if we need them.
Thank you, Mrs Hindley.
Here come the Smiths.
Maureen! Mr Smith!
'This is your notebook?'
'Yes.'
It contains numerous passages
taken from books.
From books Brady gave me, yes.
There are passages
justifying rape and murder.
Do you believe rape and murder
could be justifiable? No.
There are passages dealing with
sexual perversion of various kinds.
Yes.
Passages about a girl being flogged
and that kind of thing.
Did you take pleasure in that?
I was just trying to understand
what the author was getting at.
Ah
Did you tell Ian Brady
you could make money
by selling pornographic photographs?
No, I didn't!
On Boxing Day 1964,
you brought a girl to the house of
Brady and Hindley, did you not? No!
That girl was Lesley Ann Downey.
Where have you got this from?
And Brady told you the girl
you had brought was too young.
I never took her there!
You nevertheless stayed downstairs
while photographs were taken of
her upstairs,
and later you took her away.
This is all lies!
And that was the last
Brady and Hindley saw of her. No!
I put it to you that you murdered
Lesley Ann Downey. No!
I put it to you that far from
merely watching,
you helped Brady kill Edward Evans.
I did not!
The truth is that
when you saw violence,
you had to join in. I thought
I'd come here as a witness.
I thought it was them on trial,
not me.
No more questions, my Lord.
Has your Lordship got any questions?
No.
You are released, Mr Smith.
Court is adjourned until
ten o'clock tomorrow morning.
CLERK: All rise.
Mrs West
It's not true what they're saying
about me. Let's just go.
I had nothing to do with Lesley Ann.
Why should I believe YOU?
Cos it's the truth.
Let's just go!
You're a liar!
David. Manchester Evening News.
How well did you know Brady, David?
Can you tell us?
BARRAGE OF QUESTIONS
Piss off. Piss off!
She's pregnant.
Can you give us anything at all?
Here comes the third Moors murderer!
Shut your face!
You're the third Moors murderer!
They're all from the same family!
I think it's this way.
No, it's this way.
KNOCK ON DOOR
Where's your husband? Dave!
I want to speak to him.
You ARE a liar! You were there!
Where?
At the torture of my Lesley!
Get off him! Get off him!
You knew what he were doing! There
was nothing to know, for God's sake!
For God's sake, I'm pregnant!
If I had your blood running through
my veins, I'd slit my wrists!
(SCREAMS)
They killed me as well
when they killed our Lesley!
Come on!
You deserve the same, both of you!
(SOBS)
Come on, love.
Why did you have to talk to 'em?
To make 'em understand that
what Myra and Ian did
had nothing to do with me.
Why should people believe that?
What?
Edward Evans wouldn't have died,
would he, Dave,
if you'd not let Ian draw you in.
I didn't know they'd kill him!
But he must have seen something
in you, mustn't he, eh,
to make him think you could become
part of it? Of what?
Whatever it was, him and Myra.
Shut up!
It's you that's brought this on us,
Dave. Shut up, you bitch!
I'm sorry, Maureen.
Will it be all right now?
Now you've done that?
Maureen, I'm so sorry!
PROTESTS
Would you tell us what your
feelings were for Ian Brady
before you you moved to Hattersley?
I loved him.
I still love him.
Did you ever get wind of anything
odd happening between Ian and David?
I suppose I sometimes did wonder
what was going on.
You've sat in this court, you've
heard of several conspiracies
between them.
To photograph young girls,
to rob a bank
I don't believe her.
..to lure a homosexual
to Wardle Brook Avenue
with the intention of robbing him,
a conspiracy which ended in the
death of Edward Evans.
Did you have any idea
of any of these plans?
I had no idea at all.
Were you in any way involved
in the death of John Kilbride?
I was not.
Were you in any way involved in
the death of Lesley Ann Downey?
I was not.
Were you in any way involved
in the death of Edward Evans?
No.
No more questions, my Lord.
You may step down, Miss Hindley.
This court is adjourned.
We will reconvene after lunch.
RADIO NEWS
'Ian Brady and Myra Hindley
have been found guilty of murder.
Ian Brady has been convicted of the
murders of John Kilbride, Lesley Ann
Downey and Edward Evans.
Myra Hindley has been convicted of
the murders of Lesley Ann Downey
and Edward Evans.
She was found not guilty of
the murder of John Kilbride,
but was found guilty of being
an accessory.
The jury retired earlier today
and took just 2 hours 23 minutes
to reach their verdicts.
The defendants remained impassive
as they were read out
and equally impassive as the Judge,
Justice Fenton Atkinson,
sentenced the couple.'
Ian Brady, these were three
calculated, cruel, cold-blooded
murders.
In your case, I pass the only
sentence which the law now allows,
which is three concurrent sentences
of life imprisonment.
Hang him!
The bastard!
Pervert!
Quiet!
Quiet in court!
Quiet in court!
SILENCE
Put him down.
AGGRESSIVE MUTTERING
MAN: Take 'em both!
Quiet in court!
In your case, Hindley,
you have been found guilty of two
equally horrible murders.
And in the third,
as an accessory after the fact.
On the two murders,
the sentence is two concurrent
sentences of life imprisonment.
DAVE: It's been a waste
of fucking time.
If you two hadn't gone to court,
Brady would have got away with all
those murders except Edward Evans.
He'd have been out in ten years
and Myra would have walked free.
That's supposed to make us
feel better, is it?
I can see that it's been hard.
Hard? I'm a child killer.
The third Moors Murderer.
That's what they all believe!
They won't when they've had time to
think about it. How do you know?
He won. Brady won.
I can't stop thinking about him.
I mean, what was he doing
on the night of Edward Evans?
What was he thinking of?
He had a secret, Dave.
He had a monster of a secret
and what use was it to him
without someone to share it with?
But he had Myra to share it with.
Yeah.
And I believe he was growing tired of
her.
I think she probably resisted it,
but in order to keep him,
she agreed to try
and bring Dave into it.
And in the end, he failed, didn't he?
You two have got to try
and get on with your lives now.
What about Pauline Reade?
Keith Bennett?
I'm not allowed to search for them.
Only Manchester police can do that.
Frankly, between you, me and the gate
post, they flatly refuse to do so.
But I never said that.
I'd best be going.
I'll see you out.
No, you stay there, pet.
I'm gonna wish you two
the very best of luck. All right?
Sister, which is Mrs Harris' bed?
It's that one over there.
Good morning, Mrs Harris.
Hiya.
Hiya.
What do you think?
Beautiful.
Family again, eh?
It's the only family I'll ever
have now, Dave.
I've lost Myra,
Mam.
I can't lose this.
Yeah, I know.
I heard them come in.
I hope someone kills it
and buries it on t'bloody moors.
You filthy bitch!
Come on!
It's not worth it. Leave it.
Safe home now anyway.
Right, girl.
Aye.
It's all right.
Maureen,
come on, he wants you.
BABY CRIES
I can't.
How can I?
Shh.
How can I ever be a mother again?
I'm a Hindley.
Shh.
Maureen.
Where have you been?
I've made a pot of tea,
if you want some.
That'd be nice, love.
Nice place here.
It's small, but
..it's much nicer than my last
place.
And I'm gonna redecorate.
And you got a job?
Lewis's.
Cleaning.
That's where I saw Aunty Cath.
I just
I didn't dare believe it when
she said you'd wanna see me.
I'm so sorry.
You've had a terrible time.
The whole estate turned against us.
We just kept hoping it'd
it'd go away.
We just kept hoping,
if we had a family and
stuck together
..it'd be OK.
But it wasn't.
Bricks through the window.
Poison pen letters.
God knows what else through the
letter box.
People would spit at the kids.
Taunt them.
Me and Dave
we couldn't go anywhere
without trouble.
Eventually,
one night
Dave went for someone.
Got sent to Walton.
I just couldn't cope.
I was just in a pit.
Drinking.
Hopeless.
I had the kids put into care.
God forgive me.
I just thought
that I'd ruined their lives.
And they deserved better.
I should have been in touch.
I should have helped you.
I felt I had to choose.
Dave's out of jail now.
He's got the kids back.
The socialsocial worker
says they're doing OK.
DAVE: Here you are, David.
Do you want some bread?
Come here, then. Take it off me.
Here.
Don't throw it too far though.
Do you want some, Paul?
John, come away from the edge.
Good lad.
Stay this side of the boat, John.
Hiya.
Hi.
Hello, boys.
Who's that lady?
It's your mam.
They've grown, haven't they?
David's just like you.
Named him well, then, didn't we?
We'd got a John and a Paul. I wasn't
going to let you have Ringo.
I never thought I'd see 'em again.
Let alone have 'em
back under my own roof.
You've done so well for them.
So, why would you want
to let me see 'em again?
I think I'm a decent dad these days,
but unless I suddenly sprout tits,
I'm never going to be their mother,
am I?
Only you can be that.
They look happy, don't they?
I'd hate to get in the way.
Of what?
You might have met someone else
for a start.
I haven't.
Not that I didn't get a few
proposals in Walton, mind.
Come on.
So, when are we gonna see you again,
then?
DOORBELL
Come on.
I don't know if I can do this, Mam.
It's what she wants, love.
It's what both of you want, eh?
I'm not sure.
Come on.
I'll be waiting for you. Eh?
Yeah.
Myra.
Moby.
You don't know
how I've longed for this moment.
How are you?
OK.
If only that were true.
You've been through hell
because of me.
I haven't come here
to make you say that.
I want to say it.
I think about the consequences
of my actions all the time.
The hardest, of course,
is the children.
Living with the knowledge I helped
bring such suffering on them
and their families.
But there's not a day goes by
when I don't think about
what I've done to you.
I mean
..people make excuses for me,
saying I must have been damaged
when I was little.
Damaged?
How?
You know how Dad
used to leather me sometimes.
He used to leather me too, Myra.
I didn't do what you did.
I know.
I know, Moby.
And I mustn't make excuses.
I keep telling 'em that.
Even when they say
it was all Ian's fault,
that he changed me,
corrupted me.
Who's they?
The governor.
And the others.
I've written to Ian.
I told him I want to sever all
contact.
I've um
been going through my stuff.
Getting rid of every trace
of his influence on me.
I want you to take these away.
I don't want to see them again.
It makes me so ashamed
when I look at them.
You weren't always like that, Myra.
You were a different person once.
And I want to be that person again,
Mo.
I've started going to mass.
And confession.
And in finding God again
..I do feel like
I've found the real me.
Please.
There has to be forgiveness surely
for all of us.
There has to be redemption.
GUITAR STRUMMED
All quiet on the Western Front?
Yeah. Never thought
I'd get 'em down so easy.
Well, um
suppose I'd better
be getting on my way.
Why not stay?
The night?
Well, for good.
You mean that?
Yeah.
Be a family again, eh?
Yeah?
Yeah.
Dad'll be chuffed.
Yeah.
What about your mam?
She'd be pleased.
Yeah, but she blames me
for everything, doesn't she?
Not any more.
She's had years to think it through.
She understands the real blame
lies with Brady.
She still thinks Myra's innocent?
No. Nor does Myra.
She's accepted full responsibility.
She's told the truth.
How do you know?
She told me.
You've been to see her?
Yeah.
She's admitted everything.
What has she admitted?
Dave
I don't want to get into this now.
What has she admitted?
That she picked up John Kilbride
and Lesley Ann Downey,
delivered them into Ian's hands.
And that's it?
He bullied her into it, Dave.
But she knows now it was
a terrible thing to do.
If she was bullied into it,
why was she smiling
on that picture Brady took
of her on John Kilbride's grave?
She didn't know it was his grave.
Oh, come on.
She was in on all of it.
Abducting him,
helping to rape, kill and bury him.
That was just some sick little joke
they could share afterwards.
And Lesley Ann Downey.
If all Myra did
was pick her up for Brady,
then why was her voice on that tape?
And Keith Bennett, what about him?
Myra's adamant she had
no part in that. Pauline Reade?
I'm sure she knows nothing about
that.
Anyway, who said
anything happened to Pauline?
She's up there on the moors.
And if Myra really was sorry, she'd
start by telling the police
where she's buried.
And Keith Bennett, too.
I just have to believe
what my heart tells me, Dave.
And my heart tells me
whatever Myra did in the past,
she's a different person now.
I mean, they wouldn't be thinking
of giving her parole
if that weren't true.
They're thinking of releasing her?
If you could see her, Dave.
If you could speak to her,
you'd see.
She's the old Myra.
A warm, loving person.
She asks after the kids
all the time.
She'd like to see 'em one day.
She's not coming near my kids.
She's worse than Brady, Maureen.
He's just a sicko, a sex case.
The king of the sex cases.
But Myra,
she's human, she had feelings.
Remember the tears when Angela died?
That card she gave us.
Another little flower for God's
fucking garden!
Jesus! She was killing kids
at the same time. All right!
All right.
You believe what you want to.
But please,
please can't you let me do the same?
Of course.
I'm sorry, Maureen.
If we can't put it behind us
We've got to for the kids' sake.
We can do it, girl.
We can.
David, sit down
and eat your breakfast.
There's your cereal, then, David.
Eat that. Good lad.
Paul, do you want some toast?
Stop playing. Eat your breakfast.
Come on.
Are you all sorted?
Come on, boys, eat up now.
Let Grandad look at his paper.
That's it. Tuck yourselves in.
Don't play with it, eat it.
Oh, come on, don't mess with that.
You only need a little bit of butter
on there.
Never mind that now.
I want you to eat your breakfast.
You'll grow big and strong
like your dad.
No telling tales now.
Eat your breakfast.
Eat your breakfast.
He can take his shoes off later.
BOY: I can.
Eat up, boys.
You all right?
Yeah.
I've um
I've given them their breakfast.
Good.
I've run out of eyeliner.
I'm just gonna nip to the chemist.
OK.
What have I just said? Come on now.
We are sisters, Moby,
and nothing will ever get
in the way of that.
We were only saying
it's time Dave came here.
Has to be an easier way of getting
money, eh? Rob a bank.
Mr Mounsey. Thank you.
You don't thank me for anything
until I've found your son.
Unless we pay him the £14/8s rent
arrears by Saturday, we're out.
I suppose we could obtain the money
from a third party.
Come in when the lights flash.
Ian's killed a man!
They say they've seen somebody
killed, sir.
You stick by Dave and not Myra.
You're no daughter of mine.
TELEPHONE RINGS
Brady's admitted killing the lad.
We're not letting him go anywhere.
What about Smith? The toerag looks
as though he's telling the truth,
so we'll release him for now.
And the girlfriend?
There's no evidence of direct
involvement in the murder,
so we'll let her go.
SOBBING
(WOMAN WEEPS)
Edward Evans's parents.
Been identifying the body.
Thank you.
Can you go?
So they believe you?
Dunno.
They've let Myra go too, thank God.
What?
So she can't have been involved.
Why did you lie to me, Dave?
I didn't lie!
She's the one that's lying!
She must have fibbed her way
out of it.
Let's just get out of here.
WOMAN: I just want to know
what's going on.
I'm fed up of this lot,
now get out of here!
We haven't got time to mess around
with you.
Sir. We found the wallet
inside the car.
This is Brady's car?
No, Hindley's. Brady doesn't drive.
Found three sheets of paper in here.
We got them copied.
What is this?
A kind of disposal plan for a body.
OK. Explain it to me.
We think hat is hatchet.
Rec?
Reconnaissance?
Check periodically unmoved.
Check what's unmoved?
Body? Bodies?
Tick WHPB.
No. God knows.
Is this where it happened?
Aye. Hard to believe, isn't it?
Must have spent ages cleaning up
this place.
So where was the body found?
Over by the window.
Foetal position,
body wrapped in polythene.
Bit of a photographer, is he, then,
Brady?
Fond of moors by the looks of it.
Isn't that her?
Aye, that's her.
Come to see her granny, I expect.
Had to boot her out of here,
obviously.
Are you sure you've done the right
thing letting her go?
That was Benfield's decision.
What do you think, sir?
I think the plan was to get rid of
the body using the car.
Look. "Car. Remove all moveable
objects. Clean cover floor
and seat fresh Poly at night."
This is her car!
He doesn't even drive, you said.
Who else is going to drive the car,
for Christ sakes?
How can she possibly
not be involved?
DOG BARKS
(TO DOG) Stop it!
'Ey, come here!
Shut up!
Mrs Smith?
Yes
DCI Mounsey, Ashton Police.
I need to speak to your husband.
Dave Smith?
What?
Go on, get in there.
You told DCS Benfield
Brady claimed he killed others.
Yeah, well, he wasn't listening,
was he? Well, I am!
Did he say who he killed?
Or when or where?
No.
And you didn't ask?
Why should I?
Even when he told you he was going
to use guns for this bank job?
What bank job?
Dave, what's this?
Ian had this stupid idea about
robbing a bank. What?
Bloody idiot! I didn't know if
he was serious or not, did I?
Even when we got rid of stuff from
the suitcases, I didn't know.
What stuff? Stuff they thought would
be incriminating.
What exactly was in these suitcases?
'Ey?! Answer me!
There was some books of mine.
The rest was theirs.
I just helped them put the cases in
the car, then they drove off. Where?
I don't know.
He must have said something. Where?
Well, they might have said something
about left luggage.
"They"? So Myra was in on this too,
yeah?
Yeah. Ian said she was gonna drive
the getaway car.
Jesus Christ, Dave,
what else haven't you told me?
You're just digging a big hole
for yourself.
You think you're clever,
but you're not.
We've heard Brady's version,
and we've heard what Dave says.
I've already told you.
I've got nothing to say.
My version of events of that evening
are exactly the same as Ian's
version of events.
We found a piece of paper in Myra's
car with the initials WH on it.
I think that stands for Woodhead,
and that's here.
Don't know. Well, these are
the nearest moors to Hattersley.
They took us to different places.
So should you and me go for a walk
here?
You don't really think there are
bodies up here?
I'm trying not to think anything,
love.
Butif there are, I mean
they can't be anything to do with
Myra.
You said Brady made some remark
about you having stood on the grave
of one of his victims.
Ian and Myra drove us up to the
moors.
Me and Ian went for a walk and there
was a reservoir below us.
'He wanted me to stand
in a particular place.'
Here!
Do you think this is the spot?
Is this the spot?
I don't know.
Thank you.
I believe that with David Smith
you discussed killing people
and burying them on the moors.
It was all part of the fiction,
to impress him.
Smith says you said that Evans'
murder was the messiest yet.
Why say that if there were no
others?
That was to do with the situation
we were in.
I've got nothing to say. My version
of events of that evening
is exactly the same as Ian's.
But it's not your version, is it,
it's Ian's!
You're just using his words.
Is it Brady says, Myra does?
How many more times
do I need to tell you?
There was an accident.
My version of events is exactly
the same as Ian's.
Tell me about this fiction
to impress Smith.
Ask Smith.
No, I'm asking you.
I told you Ask Smith.
I've done nothing.
As far as I know, Ian's done
nothing.
Dave Smith's a bloody little liar.
Tell us exactly what went on
that night!
There was an accident.
That's all I'm saying.
Shall we call it murder?
Why did you take THAT photograph?
Well, I er
..must have been attracted
by the composition.
Why is Myra looking at the ground?
You'd have to ask her that.
I'm asking the photographer.
Why is she looking at the ground?
Was there something special about
that piece of ground?
Is it cos it's a grave?
Is this you standing on a grave?
Is this her standing on a grave?
Is this your personal graveyard?
Pictures.
Just pictures?
And that place, that grave,
that was Woodhead, wasn't it?
In that general area, aye.
But again, it was a fiction.
I've got police officers from three
forces up there right now
digging up your fiction.
Well, that is a monumental exercise
in futility, my friend.
OFFICER: Just keep going.
You'll keep yourself warmer.
Make sure you push the stick really
deep.
Can't you tell us
what's happening up here?
Well, we've got members of the
public helping with the search.
They've come from far and wide.
If we find anything with the sticks
and they smell like human remains
Thank you.
Don't miss anywhere.
The search of moorland adjacent
to the A628 Woodhead Pass
has been going on
for over two days now.
But the police have still found
no evidence
that any bodies have been buried
there.
There's been no official
confirmation from the police
I'm sorry, Mrs Kilbride. There's
still nothing.
I see.
Mr Mounsey! Over here!
What have you got, lad?
Let's have a look.
We might have something here, sir.
No, it's just a dead sheep.
All right, keep at it, lads.
I'm going to mention some names
to you.
Names of children.
I just want you to tell me
if you've heard of them.
Lesley Ann Downey.
Never heard of her.
Keith Bennett.
John Kilbride.
Never heard of him.
All right, then. Have you heard of
Pauline Reade?
Is that funny, Myra?
I knew Pauline Reade.
I grew up with her.
I liked her.
Lesley Ann Downey.
Have you heard of Lesley Ann Downey?
It has been pretty public.
Papers, television, rewards.
Nobody at work ever mention
Lesley Ann Downey?
And John Kilbride.
You've never heard of him?
I don't know him. I have never heard
of him.
Have you ever been to Ashton market?
No, I have never been to Ashton
market. Never? Never.
Never been to Ashton market.
Where do you shop, then?
I shop at Adsega's sometimes.
I go into the city centre.
Where do YOU shop?
The John Kilbride I'm talking about
went missing from Ashton market
23rd of November 1963.
And I'm supposed to have murdered him
and buried him on the moors?
I believe so, yes.
And I suppose I did the same
to the other names in this book,
yeah?
Joan Crawford.
Robert Urquhart.
Alec Guinness.
Deary me. I mean
Alec will be sorry to hear of the
premature end of his acting career.
Do you have children?
Eh?
Two.
Hm
Well, I can understand why this is
an emotional subject for you.
We'll not get a cough out of him.
Come on, lads. I know you're tired
but you're doing a grand job.
You see, the ground she's on here is
quite flat and stony.
I've been all over, I can't find
any ground like that round here.
You think we're looking in the wrong
place, don't you?
I don't know. If there were more
background in the photo,
something to give us
a reference point
So if WH isn't Woodhead,
what else could it stand for?
Wuthering bloody Heights
for all I know.
Prescott's not going to let this
go on for much longer.
If we don't find the bodies,
they'll get away with this.
Sir. Message from Jock Carr.
The suitcases that Smith told us
about, he's found them.
Good lad.
Right, let's have a look, then,
shall we?
Have you got a tape recorder in the
station, sir?
Jock. Go and ask the sergeant, will
you? Find a tape recorder.
Sir
Isn't that Lesley Ann Downey?
Looks like her.
Oh, fucking hell fire.
We need to talk to Smith, sir.
Jock.
# LITTLE DRUMMER BOY
# I am a poor boy too
# Pa ra pa pa pum
# I have no gifts to bring,
pa ra pa pa pum
You're right in it now, Smith.
# That's fit to give our king,
pa ra pa pa pum
# Ra pa pa pum
# Ra pa pa pum
Come on.
Hey. You better have
some bloody good answers.
# Mary nodded,
pa ra pa pa pum
What's this about?
(STOPS TAPE)
Do you recognise any of this lot?
The notebook's mine.
I don't know about the rest.
You lying little bastard!
What? What am I supposed to have
done?
You know what's on that tape,
don't you?
You know what comes before that
song!
No.
Yes, you do!
You were there when it was made!
I wasn't!
A little girl, being asked to do
unspeakable things for a man
by a woman,
crying for her mam,
begging for mercy.
Only, you didn't show any mercy,
did you?
You helped Hindley and Brady
torture and kill her.
Like you helped kill Edward Evans!
No! So, let's jog your memory.
Look at that. Who's that?
Is that Lesley Ann Downey
before you got hold of her?
Isn't she sweet? Innocent?
Isn't she trusting?
Now look what was done to her in
the bedroom of No.16.
Look at her! You were there,
weren't you? You were watching!
No, I wasn't!
So what do you think of Myra now,
then?
It might not be Myra's voice on the
tape, it might be some other woman.
It's Myra.
Do you think Dave's told you
everything about his relationship
with Ian and Myra?
Yeah.
He didn't tell you about
the armed robbery.
So what else don't you know?
What else could there be to know?
What about his sexual inclinations?
What's that got to do with anything?
Brady lent him dirty books.
Lots of people read books like that.
Doesn't mean -
And lots of people interfere with
children.
And some of them even murder 'em.
You're not saying Dave's done that?
I don't know. Do you think he could?
I'm his wife, for God's sake!
I live with him! I sleep with him!
How can you ask me that?
You live with him.
You sleep with him.
So who else would be in a better
position to know the truth?
I don't know the truth, about Dave,
about my sister
I don't know the truth about bloody
anything any more!
"Notes taken from books
I have enjoyed
He said that what she refused him
he was going to take by force,
so let the girl be stripped naked."
So, the idea of raping young girls
gives you a kick, does it?
No? "Rape is not a crime.
It is a state of mind.
Murder is a hobby
and a supreme pleasure."
I just copied that to impress him!
No, no. Come on, lad.
You enjoyed killing Edward Evans,
didn't you?
And Lesley Ann Downey.
John Kilbride. Pauline Reade.
Pauline Reade?
You think she's part of this?
I know she is.
I knew Pauline, I grew up with her!
You think I killed her?
That's exactly what Myra says.
And she's lying, And Brady's lying,
and I think you're lying too.
I haven't killed anyone! I haven't!
But you haven't told us everything,
have you?
Have you? Shall we listen to that
tape, shall we,
to that girl begging for mercy?
No!
I'll play it to you again and again
till you tell me the truth.
What haven't you told us?
Edward Evans.
What about him?
Maureen and me are in the shit
with money.
The council are threatening
to evict us.
I told Ian.
He said he'd go down Manchester,
find a businessman,
bring him back and we'd rob him.
That's why Myra came round for me
that night.
I thought we were just going
to frighten the bloke
so he'd hand over his wallet.
But I walked in and
there was Ian with the axe.
Why didn't you tell us this before?
I knew what you'd think!
You'd think what I'm trying not to -
that Evans would still be alive now
if me and Ian hadn't made that plan!
But I promise you, I haven't hurt
any children.
At least tell me you believe that!
I do actually, lad.
Good lad. Have another fag.
There may have been a plan for
a robbery, but he's no murderer.
MAUREEN: Can I wait for him?
Go on, then. Get yourself home.
Sir. 13-year-old girl from
Hattersley's come forward
with new information.
She says Brady and Hindley
befriended her, took her out for
some drives on the moors.
Does she know which moors?
Yes, she's very clear.
Wessenden Head, Saddleworth. WH!
We were in the wrong place.
Move the troops there tomorrow.
I'll call Prescott.
Oi, hang on!
They're not all Lancashire troops.
Some are Manchester's.
You're not saying you don't want us
to carry on searching, sir?
No, I'm not saying that. Just be
aware.
I can't fund an operation like this
indefinitely,
and Manchester won't either.
Thank you, sir.
Come on, lads.
Bus isn't going to wait.
Sir, sir. Don't go without us.
I need to splash my boots.
It's that cold
and he hasn't brought any gloves!
Is he going to bring any tomorrow?
Thank you, boys. Thank you.
Another good day's work, lads.
Thank you very much.
Better luck tomorrow, eh, sir?
If there is a tomorrow.
Sir?
I don't think Prescott's going to
let this go on any longer.
What, you think this really is it?
Sir! Sir, up here!
What?
Something bony sticking out of
the ground.
Yeah, just another dead sheep, lad.
I don't think so, sir.
Come on, then.
REPORTER: Is it true there's a body,
Mr Benfield?
Mr Talbot! Mr Talbot,
can you give us any details?
All right, Joe?
Yeah.
Manchester's here
now there's glory to be had.
Do we know whose body it is yet?
All I know is, it's not John
Kilbride. A little girl.
Are you ready, Dougie?
When you are, Arthur.
REPORTER: Is it male or female?
Come on, lads, give us a break.
Mr Mounsey, are there any more?
Get out of our way!
Let us through! Get back!
How many are there, Mr Talbot?
Can you give us any detail?
Is it a boy or a girl?
Are there any more?
We'll make a statement tomorrow.
Good work. Good work, excellent.
Yeah, the same to you.
Thank you very much.
Sir.
That was Professor Poulson,
Uppermill Mortuary.
Mother's identified the body.
It's Lesley Ann.
Congratulations, everyone.
What next?
Well, we charge Brady and Hindley
with the murder of Lesley Ann
Downey.
Then it's doubles on me
over at the Queen's.
What about the others?
John Kilbride, Keith Bennett,
Pauline Reade?
They're irrelevant now.
Sir?
WHAT?!
I've done another print from
the original negative.
I've brought up a lot more of
the background, and look
I swear that is Hollin Brown Knoll
in the background.
Right, Mash, are you saying if we
walk around those rocks
till we find the view that matches
this one
We should find one of the graves.
Where did you get the negative from,
Mike?
It was in the suitcases.
But all that stuff got taken away
by Manchester.
I know. I went down there and nicked
it off them.
You bad lad!
Watch your step, lad.
Watch your step.
Sir! I think it's here!
Mash?
Yeah.
Right, here we go again.
Urgh!
(GASPS)
Forensics, please, Pat.
Yes, sir.
I'll get the camera.
EXCITED VOICES
Boys, go on. In there.
No! Go! Please, do as you're told.
Lads, get out. You too.
Mum, I want to stay.
Danny
I want to stay!
Let him stay.
Let him.
Yes, that's John's.
I'm so sorry.
Sorry to disturb.
Some sad news. Your dog.
We needed to establish her age
in order to be sure that the photo
of you crouching over John
Kilbride's grave
was taken after his disappearance.
So we asked the vet to perform
a dental X-ray.
I'm sorry to say she never came
round from the anaesthetic.
You murdering fucking bastards!
Yes, well, I'm a dog lover myself,
so I can appreciate the distress.
Sorry to interrupt, sir.
Well, I'm sorry about your dog,
but we must press on.
It was a funny time of the night
to be doing house calls.
DOOR OPENS
Where's Maureen?
In the bedroom.
HUBBUB
WOMAN: Hang him!
ANGRY PROTESTS
Come on now, Mo.
You want stringing up an' all,
you bitch!
They'll put you away!
Stand there.
Please repeat after me.
I swear by Almighty God
(REPEATS)
..that the evidence I shall give
(REPEATS)
..shall be the truth, the whole
truth and nothing but the truth.
(REPEATS)
You've already admitted that
you and your husband were in trouble
with the rent.
What's that got to do with it?
You were desperate for money.
Well, yes.
You were aware your husband had
sought Brady's help over the rent.
I know he'd shown Ian the letter.
You were not aware of any further
conspiracy between them? No.
Are you not in your husband's
confidence?
I believed what he told me.
But he did not always tell you
the truth.
Nevertheless, you are married and
feel you must stand by him.
No!
Are you all right, Mrs Smith?
I'm sorry.
I'm aware of the advanced state
of your pregnancy.
Do you feel able to carry on?
I've got to, haven't I?
You've told the court that your
sister was a regular visitor
to Ashton market.
Yes, I have.
Are you quite sure about that?
There are many nearer places
to shop.
But she liked to go to Ashton.
Mrs Smith, you know it's believed
John Kilbride was abducted
from Ashton market?
Yes.
And so to imply Myra regularly went
there when she didn't
might be to dangerously mislead
the jury.
Well, why would I want to do that?
Because you have sided with your
husband against your sister.
No. All I want to do
is tell the truth!
Did you go shopping frequently
with Myra, Mrs Hindley? Yes.
To your knowledge, did she ever go
to Ashton market?
No.
(DECISIVE) No.
Can you think of any reason
why she should go there? No.
We have markets closer to home
if we need them.
Thank you, Mrs Hindley.
Here come the Smiths.
Maureen! Mr Smith!
'This is your notebook?'
'Yes.'
It contains numerous passages
taken from books.
From books Brady gave me, yes.
There are passages
justifying rape and murder.
Do you believe rape and murder
could be justifiable? No.
There are passages dealing with
sexual perversion of various kinds.
Yes.
Passages about a girl being flogged
and that kind of thing.
Did you take pleasure in that?
I was just trying to understand
what the author was getting at.
Ah
Did you tell Ian Brady
you could make money
by selling pornographic photographs?
No, I didn't!
On Boxing Day 1964,
you brought a girl to the house of
Brady and Hindley, did you not? No!
That girl was Lesley Ann Downey.
Where have you got this from?
And Brady told you the girl
you had brought was too young.
I never took her there!
You nevertheless stayed downstairs
while photographs were taken of
her upstairs,
and later you took her away.
This is all lies!
And that was the last
Brady and Hindley saw of her. No!
I put it to you that you murdered
Lesley Ann Downey. No!
I put it to you that far from
merely watching,
you helped Brady kill Edward Evans.
I did not!
The truth is that
when you saw violence,
you had to join in. I thought
I'd come here as a witness.
I thought it was them on trial,
not me.
No more questions, my Lord.
Has your Lordship got any questions?
No.
You are released, Mr Smith.
Court is adjourned until
ten o'clock tomorrow morning.
CLERK: All rise.
Mrs West
It's not true what they're saying
about me. Let's just go.
I had nothing to do with Lesley Ann.
Why should I believe YOU?
Cos it's the truth.
Let's just go!
You're a liar!
David. Manchester Evening News.
How well did you know Brady, David?
Can you tell us?
BARRAGE OF QUESTIONS
Piss off. Piss off!
She's pregnant.
Can you give us anything at all?
Here comes the third Moors murderer!
Shut your face!
You're the third Moors murderer!
They're all from the same family!
I think it's this way.
No, it's this way.
KNOCK ON DOOR
Where's your husband? Dave!
I want to speak to him.
You ARE a liar! You were there!
Where?
At the torture of my Lesley!
Get off him! Get off him!
You knew what he were doing! There
was nothing to know, for God's sake!
For God's sake, I'm pregnant!
If I had your blood running through
my veins, I'd slit my wrists!
(SCREAMS)
They killed me as well
when they killed our Lesley!
Come on!
You deserve the same, both of you!
(SOBS)
Come on, love.
Why did you have to talk to 'em?
To make 'em understand that
what Myra and Ian did
had nothing to do with me.
Why should people believe that?
What?
Edward Evans wouldn't have died,
would he, Dave,
if you'd not let Ian draw you in.
I didn't know they'd kill him!
But he must have seen something
in you, mustn't he, eh,
to make him think you could become
part of it? Of what?
Whatever it was, him and Myra.
Shut up!
It's you that's brought this on us,
Dave. Shut up, you bitch!
I'm sorry, Maureen.
Will it be all right now?
Now you've done that?
Maureen, I'm so sorry!
PROTESTS
Would you tell us what your
feelings were for Ian Brady
before you you moved to Hattersley?
I loved him.
I still love him.
Did you ever get wind of anything
odd happening between Ian and David?
I suppose I sometimes did wonder
what was going on.
You've sat in this court, you've
heard of several conspiracies
between them.
To photograph young girls,
to rob a bank
I don't believe her.
..to lure a homosexual
to Wardle Brook Avenue
with the intention of robbing him,
a conspiracy which ended in the
death of Edward Evans.
Did you have any idea
of any of these plans?
I had no idea at all.
Were you in any way involved
in the death of John Kilbride?
I was not.
Were you in any way involved in
the death of Lesley Ann Downey?
I was not.
Were you in any way involved
in the death of Edward Evans?
No.
No more questions, my Lord.
You may step down, Miss Hindley.
This court is adjourned.
We will reconvene after lunch.
RADIO NEWS
'Ian Brady and Myra Hindley
have been found guilty of murder.
Ian Brady has been convicted of the
murders of John Kilbride, Lesley Ann
Downey and Edward Evans.
Myra Hindley has been convicted of
the murders of Lesley Ann Downey
and Edward Evans.
She was found not guilty of
the murder of John Kilbride,
but was found guilty of being
an accessory.
The jury retired earlier today
and took just 2 hours 23 minutes
to reach their verdicts.
The defendants remained impassive
as they were read out
and equally impassive as the Judge,
Justice Fenton Atkinson,
sentenced the couple.'
Ian Brady, these were three
calculated, cruel, cold-blooded
murders.
In your case, I pass the only
sentence which the law now allows,
which is three concurrent sentences
of life imprisonment.
Hang him!
The bastard!
Pervert!
Quiet!
Quiet in court!
Quiet in court!
SILENCE
Put him down.
AGGRESSIVE MUTTERING
MAN: Take 'em both!
Quiet in court!
In your case, Hindley,
you have been found guilty of two
equally horrible murders.
And in the third,
as an accessory after the fact.
On the two murders,
the sentence is two concurrent
sentences of life imprisonment.
DAVE: It's been a waste
of fucking time.
If you two hadn't gone to court,
Brady would have got away with all
those murders except Edward Evans.
He'd have been out in ten years
and Myra would have walked free.
That's supposed to make us
feel better, is it?
I can see that it's been hard.
Hard? I'm a child killer.
The third Moors Murderer.
That's what they all believe!
They won't when they've had time to
think about it. How do you know?
He won. Brady won.
I can't stop thinking about him.
I mean, what was he doing
on the night of Edward Evans?
What was he thinking of?
He had a secret, Dave.
He had a monster of a secret
and what use was it to him
without someone to share it with?
But he had Myra to share it with.
Yeah.
And I believe he was growing tired of
her.
I think she probably resisted it,
but in order to keep him,
she agreed to try
and bring Dave into it.
And in the end, he failed, didn't he?
You two have got to try
and get on with your lives now.
What about Pauline Reade?
Keith Bennett?
I'm not allowed to search for them.
Only Manchester police can do that.
Frankly, between you, me and the gate
post, they flatly refuse to do so.
But I never said that.
I'd best be going.
I'll see you out.
No, you stay there, pet.
I'm gonna wish you two
the very best of luck. All right?
Sister, which is Mrs Harris' bed?
It's that one over there.
Good morning, Mrs Harris.
Hiya.
Hiya.
What do you think?
Beautiful.
Family again, eh?
It's the only family I'll ever
have now, Dave.
I've lost Myra,
Mam.
I can't lose this.
Yeah, I know.
I heard them come in.
I hope someone kills it
and buries it on t'bloody moors.
You filthy bitch!
Come on!
It's not worth it. Leave it.
Safe home now anyway.
Right, girl.
Aye.
It's all right.
Maureen,
come on, he wants you.
BABY CRIES
I can't.
How can I?
Shh.
How can I ever be a mother again?
I'm a Hindley.
Shh.
Maureen.
Where have you been?
I've made a pot of tea,
if you want some.
That'd be nice, love.
Nice place here.
It's small, but
..it's much nicer than my last
place.
And I'm gonna redecorate.
And you got a job?
Lewis's.
Cleaning.
That's where I saw Aunty Cath.
I just
I didn't dare believe it when
she said you'd wanna see me.
I'm so sorry.
You've had a terrible time.
The whole estate turned against us.
We just kept hoping it'd
it'd go away.
We just kept hoping,
if we had a family and
stuck together
..it'd be OK.
But it wasn't.
Bricks through the window.
Poison pen letters.
God knows what else through the
letter box.
People would spit at the kids.
Taunt them.
Me and Dave
we couldn't go anywhere
without trouble.
Eventually,
one night
Dave went for someone.
Got sent to Walton.
I just couldn't cope.
I was just in a pit.
Drinking.
Hopeless.
I had the kids put into care.
God forgive me.
I just thought
that I'd ruined their lives.
And they deserved better.
I should have been in touch.
I should have helped you.
I felt I had to choose.
Dave's out of jail now.
He's got the kids back.
The socialsocial worker
says they're doing OK.
DAVE: Here you are, David.
Do you want some bread?
Come here, then. Take it off me.
Here.
Don't throw it too far though.
Do you want some, Paul?
John, come away from the edge.
Good lad.
Stay this side of the boat, John.
Hiya.
Hi.
Hello, boys.
Who's that lady?
It's your mam.
They've grown, haven't they?
David's just like you.
Named him well, then, didn't we?
We'd got a John and a Paul. I wasn't
going to let you have Ringo.
I never thought I'd see 'em again.
Let alone have 'em
back under my own roof.
You've done so well for them.
So, why would you want
to let me see 'em again?
I think I'm a decent dad these days,
but unless I suddenly sprout tits,
I'm never going to be their mother,
am I?
Only you can be that.
They look happy, don't they?
I'd hate to get in the way.
Of what?
You might have met someone else
for a start.
I haven't.
Not that I didn't get a few
proposals in Walton, mind.
Come on.
So, when are we gonna see you again,
then?
DOORBELL
Come on.
I don't know if I can do this, Mam.
It's what she wants, love.
It's what both of you want, eh?
I'm not sure.
Come on.
I'll be waiting for you. Eh?
Yeah.
Myra.
Moby.
You don't know
how I've longed for this moment.
How are you?
OK.
If only that were true.
You've been through hell
because of me.
I haven't come here
to make you say that.
I want to say it.
I think about the consequences
of my actions all the time.
The hardest, of course,
is the children.
Living with the knowledge I helped
bring such suffering on them
and their families.
But there's not a day goes by
when I don't think about
what I've done to you.
I mean
..people make excuses for me,
saying I must have been damaged
when I was little.
Damaged?
How?
You know how Dad
used to leather me sometimes.
He used to leather me too, Myra.
I didn't do what you did.
I know.
I know, Moby.
And I mustn't make excuses.
I keep telling 'em that.
Even when they say
it was all Ian's fault,
that he changed me,
corrupted me.
Who's they?
The governor.
And the others.
I've written to Ian.
I told him I want to sever all
contact.
I've um
been going through my stuff.
Getting rid of every trace
of his influence on me.
I want you to take these away.
I don't want to see them again.
It makes me so ashamed
when I look at them.
You weren't always like that, Myra.
You were a different person once.
And I want to be that person again,
Mo.
I've started going to mass.
And confession.
And in finding God again
..I do feel like
I've found the real me.
Please.
There has to be forgiveness surely
for all of us.
There has to be redemption.
GUITAR STRUMMED
All quiet on the Western Front?
Yeah. Never thought
I'd get 'em down so easy.
Well, um
suppose I'd better
be getting on my way.
Why not stay?
The night?
Well, for good.
You mean that?
Yeah.
Be a family again, eh?
Yeah?
Yeah.
Dad'll be chuffed.
Yeah.
What about your mam?
She'd be pleased.
Yeah, but she blames me
for everything, doesn't she?
Not any more.
She's had years to think it through.
She understands the real blame
lies with Brady.
She still thinks Myra's innocent?
No. Nor does Myra.
She's accepted full responsibility.
She's told the truth.
How do you know?
She told me.
You've been to see her?
Yeah.
She's admitted everything.
What has she admitted?
Dave
I don't want to get into this now.
What has she admitted?
That she picked up John Kilbride
and Lesley Ann Downey,
delivered them into Ian's hands.
And that's it?
He bullied her into it, Dave.
But she knows now it was
a terrible thing to do.
If she was bullied into it,
why was she smiling
on that picture Brady took
of her on John Kilbride's grave?
She didn't know it was his grave.
Oh, come on.
She was in on all of it.
Abducting him,
helping to rape, kill and bury him.
That was just some sick little joke
they could share afterwards.
And Lesley Ann Downey.
If all Myra did
was pick her up for Brady,
then why was her voice on that tape?
And Keith Bennett, what about him?
Myra's adamant she had
no part in that. Pauline Reade?
I'm sure she knows nothing about
that.
Anyway, who said
anything happened to Pauline?
She's up there on the moors.
And if Myra really was sorry, she'd
start by telling the police
where she's buried.
And Keith Bennett, too.
I just have to believe
what my heart tells me, Dave.
And my heart tells me
whatever Myra did in the past,
she's a different person now.
I mean, they wouldn't be thinking
of giving her parole
if that weren't true.
They're thinking of releasing her?
If you could see her, Dave.
If you could speak to her,
you'd see.
She's the old Myra.
A warm, loving person.
She asks after the kids
all the time.
She'd like to see 'em one day.
She's not coming near my kids.
She's worse than Brady, Maureen.
He's just a sicko, a sex case.
The king of the sex cases.
But Myra,
she's human, she had feelings.
Remember the tears when Angela died?
That card she gave us.
Another little flower for God's
fucking garden!
Jesus! She was killing kids
at the same time. All right!
All right.
You believe what you want to.
But please,
please can't you let me do the same?
Of course.
I'm sorry, Maureen.
If we can't put it behind us
We've got to for the kids' sake.
We can do it, girl.
We can.
David, sit down
and eat your breakfast.
There's your cereal, then, David.
Eat that. Good lad.
Paul, do you want some toast?
Stop playing. Eat your breakfast.
Come on.
Are you all sorted?
Come on, boys, eat up now.
Let Grandad look at his paper.
That's it. Tuck yourselves in.
Don't play with it, eat it.
Oh, come on, don't mess with that.
You only need a little bit of butter
on there.
Never mind that now.
I want you to eat your breakfast.
You'll grow big and strong
like your dad.
No telling tales now.
Eat your breakfast.
Eat your breakfast.
He can take his shoes off later.
BOY: I can.
Eat up, boys.
You all right?
Yeah.
I've um
I've given them their breakfast.
Good.
I've run out of eyeliner.
I'm just gonna nip to the chemist.
OK.
What have I just said? Come on now.