The Dead Files (2011) s09e08 Episode Script
Fear Lives Here - Magna, Utah
Everything was built on blood.
I seen a shadow run towards the bathroom.
It's almost like a joint poltergeist.
They just keep beating each other.
They were chasing geese across the pond and ended up drowning.
The attacks become more violent.
I'm hearing, like, "Get out of the house.
" The blood is still flowing.
Good energy stops right here.
I just hear death.
My name is Amy Allan.
Ah.
God.
It's like, "I'm going to get you.
" I see dead people.
Her face was all demonic.
I speak to dead people.
He's like, "You think you can stop me? Because you can't.
" And they speak to me.
- What is he trying to do? - Kill them.
But there's only one way to know if my findings are real Something happened.
Bam, bam, bam.
I rely on my partner.
I'm Steve di Schiavi.
I'm retired New York City homicide detective.
Am I seeing what I think I'm seeing? And I know every person, every house, has secrets.
They everywhere.
It's my job to reveal them.
This guy's got the markings of a serial killer.
But Steve and I never speak.
We never communicate during an investigation.
Until the very end.
Is this Sted guy doing that to her? When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay That's it.
Or time to get out.
Somebody's gonna die over there soon.
Yeah.
I'm in the city of Magna, Utah just west of Salt Lake City.
Now, I took this case for two reasons.
First, the woman who called us in.
She was crying on the phone and sounded really scared.
Second, there are kids involved, three of them.
And according to their mom they are being physically and psychologically attacked by whatever's in that house.
MAN: Before Amy arrives I throw the house of any leading information.
Family photographs and other personal items can influence her findings so it's important I cover or remove them all.
When I'm finished the location will be ready for tonight's walk.
AMY: Good energy is not making it into this home.
Good energy stops right here.
Unfortunately the people who've moved into this place, uh, have not been very stable.
And because of all of that they're pulling in this negative energy.
The dead are attracted to this location because of all the drama and craziness.
I feel really horrible, sick, sick, sick.
STEVE: So, Jennie, when we spoke on the phone you sounded really upset.
The reason I took this case is because it involved children.
- Yes.
- Your kids are going through - a rough time here? - Yes, late nights with the kids.
They are not sleeping in their rooms, they're staying up.
And once I really started seeing my kids go through things - Right.
- That's when it's hard.
Especially for my youngest.
She is, like, so scared.
She tries running out of the house.
And so that's when you, like, don't know what to do anymore.
It's not anything any kid should have to go through.
No, especially when you can't explain anything to them.
Like, when they ask, you know, why or what.
And it's like you don't have really anything for them.
All right.
So who exactly lives in the house with you? That's all of us.
All right.
So who's here? This is Lexie, she's 11.
And that's Summer, she's 7.
- Okay.
- And then that's me.
That's my son Zeke.
He's 12.
- Okay.
- And then my husband.
- Okay.
- And he's 30.
And then, that's my mom.
So Jennie, has your mom always lived with you? No, we moved her in because she was having some surgeries done.
What kind of surgeries? She's had to have some surgeries to remove her brain tumor.
- Really? - This one was cancer, - like a stage two.
- Okay.
So she's had to go through radiation.
It kinda did a number on her this time.
She still gets really bad headaches sometimes.
I don't like this.
Headaches.
Constant headaches, headaches, headaches, headaches, headaches, stress, stress.
Constant stress and headaches.
There's abuse.
I think it was some time ago.
This person This is, like, a safe haven to get away from everything.
But there is no really getting away from everything.
Being in here makes it worse.
How long have you guys been living here? Since 2008.
It was a beautiful house, you know, somewhere nice to raise the kids.
So, Jennie, do you know any history on the property? - Anything? - Not a lot except for that it's a mining town.
- A mining town? - Yeah.
That's interesting to know.
Okay.
Any idea what kind of what they're mining here? It might be copper.
Okay.
All right, Jennie.
So do me a favor and give me a list of the things you guys are experiencing.
Bangs, voices and now things are moving.
And we see dark shadows.
And now it's gotten physical.
Okay.
Physical with who? My daughter Lexie.
She got scratched.
That's gotta be killing you.
She's so scared that something's gonna hurt her.
That's the hardest part.
I don't get a lot of sleep.
We do a lot of camping out in the living room.
Have you guys done anything to be proactive? Like, have you had the house blessed? - Have you done anything? - Um, we've tried blessing it ourselves.
We went and burned sage through the house - Okay.
- And, you know, salt.
Did it work? No, it actually got a lot worse.
Somebody did something out here.
Some kind of protection thing.
But it's wrong.
It wasn't done right.
It pushed all the bad, icky [bleep.]
inside.
It created this, like, suction thing that's sucking in, uh, crazy [bleep.]
.
And it's keeping good stuff out.
So, Jennie, why'd you take me into the master bedroom? This is where, um, I have experiences.
One night, I got woken up to the sheets being moved off of me and, like, somebody just touching me, like, rubbing my shoulder.
Now is there any way possible that your husband coulda been strokin' your arm? Um, no, he was sleeping facing towards the window.
Okay, physically he couldn't have done it.
No.
Anything else? - I will just be laying in bed - Okay.
And I will get woken up by a humming - electric sound.
- Okay.
And then all of a sudden these shadows will come from over there, from my dresser, and, like, they will slowly start moving into me.
And they're darker shadows.
And you can hear them whispering.
And so I'm just frozen there with them just standing over me.
You must freak out when you see this thing.
I do.
One time I said, "Okay, just take me.
" Like, I'm in full blown panic.
So, like, your heart's racing - Right.
- You're sweating, but I can't move, I can't talk.
I see a woman.
She looks like late thirties.
And she is alive, crying.
And she feels very lonely.
She feels like she's been deserted.
A lot of despair.
I saw a younger male.
He's a mess.
He's a mess.
He's done a lot of really bad things in his life.
I think he's a addict.
He's done just terrible things.
And I don't know if he lives here or if he lived here.
Uh, but I definitely got that he left a lot of energy behind.
Uh, and there was something about guns.
Seems like Jennie is having a rough time.
- Are you? - Yes.
Tell me about the experiences you've had.
I was walkin' into my room.
I seen clothes swinging and a shadow run towards the bathroom.
At the same time? - At the same time.
- And you're sure it wasn't one of the kids running through the bed room? No, they were all in school.
Okay, anything else? I walked into the laundry room and there was somebody standing there.
I asked him, "Who are you? What are you doing here?" He just stood there, blank stare at me and then gone.
He just vanished.
Okay, describe him to me.
Complete black.
Couldn't make out a face or anything.
How do you explain it? - I can't figure it out.
- Okay.
That must've scared the hell outta you.
It scares the [bleep.]
out of me is what it does.
Somebody was in here.
A living person felt their hairs stand up, turned, saw a shadow figure move.
More than once they've seen this, more than once.
The drug addict guy is projecting himself as the shadow figure.
[Shudders.]
This is a not good place.
Let me ask you a question.
How old are you? - I'm 12.
- Twelve.
So, Zeke, tell me about what you're seeing.
A green guy.
He comes through the wall and first you hear a big old bang and then I wake up and I see him.
- And it's coming from that wall.
- Here? - Yep.
- All right.
You're 12.
All right.
Are you fooling around taking any of mommy and daddy's pills or anything like that? - No.
- All right.
So you're not hallucinating when you're seeing this stuff? No.
Are you are you hearing or seeing anything else? I'm seeing a guy with a hat.
Okay.
Comes up through my ceiling in my closet.
Okay, can you see any features on this thing? - No, just the hat.
- All right.
So, anything else? Um, I've heard the chairs moving and the table moving.
Where? In in the kitchen? - Yeah.
- Okay, so when you heard it move did you go out there and check it out? - Yeah.
- And what'd you see? Nothing, I looked just as normal.
The stuff you're seeing is pretty wild for an adult to see.
Um, you realize this is not normal for a 12 year old? Yeah.
Everybody who's alive in the house, um, is like beating on each other.
It's almost, like, a joint, like, poltergeist from all these people.
They're, like, literally taking [bleep.]
Down on one another via this poltergeist.
I know they're seeing things but I can't quite see what they're seeing.
I don't know what's going on with the the ceiling.
I'm feeling like a lot of physical assaults here, and this is from living people to other living people.
It's just a [bleep.]
mess.
So, Summer, tell me, honey, how old are you? - Seven.
- So, Summer, I understand that you sleep out here most of the time, is that right? Okay, because you're afraid of your room? Mm-hmm.
Okay, do you ever seen anything when you're sleeping out here? Yeah.
I see people.
I I think they are trying to hurt me.
All right, where do you see them? In my room, in the kitchen and the bathroom.
Okay, what else are you hearing or seeing? I freak out.
My parents come upstairs and they check on me and I wake everybody up.
- Okay.
- And I was like, "Call the cops.
" You're scared of this place, huh, honey? Yeah.
Well, we're here to try to get rid of everything.
Would you like to go sleep in your own room again? Okay.
I would think that the living here are experiencing things like, you know, feeling slapped, headaches, panic attacks for sure, anxiety, punched, kicked, possible sexual assaults Very weird.
It's weird.
How old are you, honey? - I'm 11.
- Okay.
So when I talked to mom, um, she called us in basically because the stuff you're going through.
Yeah.
- Is that upsetting you? - Yeah.
So I understand you've been having some experiences.
Yeah.
Okay, can you mind telling me about them? Um, I went upstairs.
And I heard my door close, and then open and then close.
And it went on and on and on.
- Which door is this? - It was that door.
Okay, did you see it open and closing? Yes.
Yes, but could the window have been open in the bedroom that caused the door to open and shut? My dad came in and checked it out - and there was nothing in here.
- Nothing here.
Okay, have you seen or heard anything else? My dresser and my TV they were both rocking.
The dresser started going up and down? No, it started like Teetering back and forth? Mm-hmm, yeah.
The whole dresser itself? Yeah.
Did you guys think you were having a earthquake or something? No, because I didn't see anything else shaking and So it was just these two things? It was just those two things.
All right.
So anything else, honey? I got scratched right over here.
I was laying in my bed and my arm was hanging out like that.
And then there was, like, a little like that.
So this is a silly question but are you scared to be here? I'm really scared to be here.
Okay.
I'm seeing, like, a teenage girl.
Everybody's being affected.
But it's almost like like she's really getting, like, the brunt.
You know what I mean? Like, she's, like, ground zero.
She has a lot of ability.
She might be, uh, the biggest source and doesn't even know it, doesn't even know it.
So what do you think would happen, uh, if this were to continue going on and nothing was done about it? I think that the physical attacks would become more violent, uh, to where there would be, um, actual cutting or scratching involved.
And, uh, possible smothering or strangulation to occur.
STEVE: Other than a family living in fear, I don't have much to go off of to do my investigation.
So I'm at the library to see if I can dig anything up.
Searching through old records, I find one of the original owners of my clients property lost two young kids.
Turns out they both drowned in an accident.
I'm on my way to meet with a local genealogist who's looking into this tragedy for me.
She tells me the kids who drowned that day were direct descendants of a very prominent local man.
So, Christine, before we get to the drownings you mentioned that the kids were related to somebody famous.
Yes, the children's grandfather was Edward Watkins Clark.
One of the first Mormon settlers here in Utah.
Okay.
When did this guy come here? So, in 1852 he finally settled in Utah with his first wife.
All right.
So when Edward gets here - what does he do? - He was a farmer.
He was very prominent in the community.
Everyone knew him and his wife, Lucy.
He was actually elected to justice of the peace out in Santaquin.
Okay, you said his first wife.
Can I assume his first wife died? No, actually the Mormon church encouraged polygamy at this time.
And so he was encouraged to take other wives.
And in 1857 he married his second wife, Louisa Miller, who was 20 years his junior.
She was only 17 when they got married.
Seventeen? I have a picture of her when she's older.
Now does he have kids with both of them? - Yes, 18.
- Wow.
He had 10 with his first wife, Lucy, and eight with his second wife, Louisa.
The second youngest is John Edward, who is the father of the children who died.
Okay.
I'm seeing this woman and she's married to a much older male.
She was probably in her late 20s and he was, like, between 60 and 70 years of age.
He was prestigious.
He was a big time business man.
He kept fighting me because he doesn't want me here.
Uh, he doesn't want anything about him or his family out.
He wants to keep his private life secret.
Uh, and then there's a a a younger female.
And I don't know if it's his step-daughter or if it's his biological daughter.
The girl doesn't look like either one of them at all.
The daughter is like 16 or something.
Um, and he was having an inappropriate relationship with her and also very abusive and controlling.
I guess you would wanna keep that quiet.
So I know Edward's son, John, owned my clients' property at one point.
Do you know when that was? 1923 is when he bought the property out in Magna.
Okay, so now how many kids did he have? He had eight children in total.
He had three girls and five little boys.
Okay, so take me through the day of the accident.
- What happened? - Uh, it was January 2, 1926.
It was a day a lot like today where the sun is out and all the snow is on the ground and the pond probably looked a lot like this, very frozen.
Three of the little boys, Floydd, Morris and Lennis, all take their friend Clarence out.
And they were chasing geese across the pond but it was too thin and all the boys fell through.
Wow.
And Clarence was able to help Floydd out of the water but Morris and Lennis ended up drowning.
I have their death certificates.
So this is Morris Ruden, and his death certificate even says, "Accidental drowning.
" Okay.
And then Lennis Dean, same thing.
All right, so they lost two kids to drowning.
Tragic.
I mean, I can't even imagine losing one - let alone two.
- Yeah.
So what happened with with John? I mean, did him and his wife stick around - after this happened? - They did.
John actually did not release the property until 1953 is when he sold it actually a few months before he died, when his heart collapsed.
Okay.
I do see a different house, uh, that was here prior.
This house took up several acres of property.
I'm hearing a woman screaming and crying.
And it's over a death.
She's outside.
It might be in the backyard or something.
This person couldn't get over it.
Uh, can't can't get over it.
She's like, "Why? Why?" Very dramatic.
Uh, like, her hands are up, like, "Why? Why? Why? No, no, no.
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Jennie told me she thought there used to be a lot of copper mining in the area.
So I made some calls and it turns out she's right.
I'm meeting a historian who says mining killed two men who live on my clients' land.
So, Robert, what can you tell me about the mining industry in Magna? Well Magna actually started out as a farming community.
- Okay.
- But it wasn't until 1906 that the Utah Copper Company brought in the the biggest, uh, refining and smelting, uh, operation in world history at the time.
Millions of tons of ore was being processed every year.
So it's basically all copper? Mostly copper, that's what they're renowned for.
You can talk about a real dangerous work environment.
It was very dangerous, uh, very toxic environment.
- Okay.
- A lot of sulfuric emissions, heavy metal particulates and even asbestos.
So the odds are stacked against you.
So you had mentioned on the phone, uh, two guys that lived on my clients' property, uh, died in connection with the mining.
Tell me about the first guy.
First guys name is Wallace Anderson.
- Okay.
- He bought your clients' property in 1936.
So what happened to him? Well, by 1944 it catches up to him.
Uh, he's in your clients' house.
He's feeling pain in his lungs.
He's having trouble breathing.
He checks himself into the hospital.
He's there for 12 days.
And he dies.
Okay, so what's the official cause of death? It's bronchogenic carcinoma.
It's lung cancer.
Pretty common way to go for mine workers back then.
It was.
Now, Robert, you mentioned there was a second guy that died on my clients' property.
Right.
Who, uh, who was that? His name was Paul William Confer.
He was actually renting the property from Wallace's widow.
Okay, so what happened? In 1948, he goes down inside the mine in a blasting team - with another fella - Okay.
And they never came out with the other groups.
And so they sent a search party down there and discovered that they'd been killed.
They were killed in an explosion.
And here's his death certificate.
Subtotal decapitation, amputation both arms, puncture wounds both legs.
Did they ever figure out what caused the explosion? - Either a faulty fuse - Okay.
Or it was negligence on the part of the miners.
Geez.
Are the mines still going on? Yeah.
The mine is still running today.
So I'm assuming it's a cleaner operation today? It is.
In 1994 the EPA stepped in and declared Magna an environmental disaster zone.
After 100 years of industry, uh, the water was contaminated.
The soil was contaminated.
What kinds of effects could that have on somebody? Today still the lung cancer rate is 50 percent greater than the rest of the state.
And not only cancer but high rates of ADD, autism, delirium and even hallucinations.
Really? That's interesting.
There's a lot of residual energy here.
I saw on the land that everything was built on blood.
And I see the blood is still flowing.
Uh, and they said it was built and blood and dirty dealings and that both of those things are still happening today.
And that's why the blood is still flowing.
[Shudders.]
This is a not good place.
Look, if contaminated water can cause hallucinations it could explain some of the really strange things Jennie and her family are seeing.
I'm heading back to the house to meet an inspector who's going to give the water a thorough, scientific test.
- Hey, Jonathan.
- How's it goin'? Thanks for coming by.
I appreciate it.
Yeah.
You bet.
The reason I called you out is my clients that live in this house, they're telling me that they're seeing some really off the wall, bizarre stuff.
Now I know this place in '94 was considered - a EPA disaster area.
- That's correct.
I mean, all along the Wasatch Front we see a number of locations that have had some kind of environmental hazards, uh, primarily due to the proximity of local mines in the area.
Now, could you test to see if there's any kind of environmental problem that could cause these people to have hallucinations? Yeah.
Absolutely.
Okay, good.
Let me know what you find.
Will do.
I've clients seeing things moving on their own and green men coming out of the walls which means there are three possibilities.
One, they're lying to me.
But I don't think that's the case.
Two, their soil or water is contaminated causing them to hallucinate.
Or three, there's something going on that only Amy can understand.
So, how'd it go? Well we tested the soil, uh, the water as well as the paint on the walls and we didn't find any contaminants.
Really? So there's no environmental reason why clients are seeing what the hell they're seeing? - No.
- Okay.
So now I know what it's not.
I saw a lot of disturbing activity during my walk.
But the drug addict who projects himself as the shadow figure really stood out.
He was young, I would say between 18 and 24.
He had a very narrow, uh, nose.
He also had very dark eyes, kinda black.
Is this who you saw? Yes.
STEVE: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, we're ready to reveal our findings to each other and our clients for the first time.
So, Amy, I want you to meet Randall and Jennie.
They're experiencing some pretty bizarre stuff in their house.
But the reason they called us in is because of their kids.
We got a photo of the family here.
Now, this is Lexie, she's 11.
This is Summer, she's an adorable 7-year-old.
This is their Zeke, who's 12.
And this is, uh, Jennie's mom, Debbie, who lives with them.
These guys think that whatever's in the house is going after the kids.
And they promised me they'll do whatever it takes to keep them safe.
So now that Amy knows a little bit about your family, I'm going to, uh, ask her to describe her walk.
AMY: Walking up to your home, to the front door, I saw a male, uh, doing some kind of ritual or protection.
Who ever this was, and whatever he did, was not good.
It created a type of negative suction into your house.
And unfortunately all good energy stops right at your front door.
That's weird because I don't know about a male, but you mentioned to me that you guys did something.
Yeah.
Me and my mother-in-law, we tried to cleanse the house with, like, sage and salt.
Now she's talking about negativity.
Have you guys felt that in the house? Sometimes when you just come home it just just doesn't feel right.
It doesn't feel like home.
Wow.
STEVE: So what else did you see? I encountered an elderly deceased male.
What he was saying to me was that when he was alive he was very prestigious.
He was a big player.
He absolutely did not want me there.
What I did get was that there were two women, uh, of importance in his life.
One was his wife.
The wife was much younger than him.
She was in her twenties.
And then one was a younger girl.
And I didn't know if that was his daughter or step-daughter.
And the girl was about 16.
And what I did get was that there was an inappropriate relationship between him and the younger girl.
And I felt like that's what he was trying to conceal.
He's very grouchy, very controlling.
And when he is inside of the home the men of the house may take on these kinds of attitudes.
Well, Jennie, have you noticed that with Randall or Zeke? Yeah.
Big time.
I came across somebody in my research that might fit the bill.
His name was Edward Watkins Clark.
You had mentioned he was prestigious.
He was a famous pioneer for the Mormon church.
He came over from England in 1852.
He brought his wife Lucy over with his kids.
Now you mentioned a teenage girl that might be his daughter or a step-daughter.
Well back in those days they preached polygamy.
He was 37.
And he married his girl, Louisa, who was, uh, 17 at the time.
Now I got a photo of her but this is from when she was much older.
Now together with his two wives he had 18 kids.
The 17th child, named John, ended up living on your property.
AMY: The next thing that I saw is a younger male.
And I honestly couldn't tell if he was alive or dead.
If he is deceased it was extremely recent.
He was in the downstairs, large, downstairs bedroom.
He was very agitated.
He felt like everybody was out to get him.
He felt like he was falling apart.
The living, who would be down there a lot, would feel this sense of despair or depression.
And I think if you were to see him it would be a shadow-like figure.
Now, Jennie, you had your own experiences with shadow figures? - Yeah.
- Tell her what you told me.
And I'll just be right there, by my dresser, and then he'll come towards me.
But then I'm stuck in my bed.
And I'm just frozen.
I'm sweating, breathing hard, just can't do anything.
Randall, didn't you see another one leering at you at one point? I asked him, "Who are you? What do you want?" - Mm-hmm.
- It just looked at me - Mm-hmm.
- Then gone, just vanished.
STEVE: Did you get anything about this guy in life? AMY: What I got on him was that he was, I think, in his twenties.
He claimed to have done a lot of terrible things during his lifetime.
I just see him with a rifle and a small handgun.
And I did get that he was an addict and/or fighting addiction.
I got a sense that he did live here.
And like I said, if he still alive, he essentially left part of himself.
STEVE: Did you get a good look at him? - I had a sketch done.
- Okay.
Maybe you guys can tell me if they he looks like anybody that you might know.
- My brother.
- Yeah.
My brother's sittin' in jail right now.
What? Any issues with guns and stuff that she's talking about? Yeah.
He he loves guns.
This is pretty wild.
So let me get this straight, it's possible for somebody who's not dead to haunt the house? AMY: Sometimes people will really leave a, like, really a part of themselves there.
This has gotta be tough for you to hear though? Yeah.
Very.
STEVE: So what else? AMY: I went into the pink room.
And I got a horrible headache.
It was overwhelming.
And I felt like a woman stays there, goes there, feels like the room is a safe haven to get away from everything.
But it's not.
And she keeps feeling pain from life loss.
I got loss, abuse and death.
When she's in there, it just feels like it's all happening again and again.
Well that's the room where Jennie's mom, Debbie, sleeps.
Um, my mom has had a couple brain surgeries.
Oh, wow.
And the last one was a stage two cancer.
So she does get headaches a lot.
So what she's saying kinda makes sense? Yeah.
She's been through a lot.
STEVE: Now'd you see anything else? So the thing I'm most concerned about is the poltergeist activity in the house.
A poltergeist is usually created by one living agent who has abilities.
But in your case it's unusual because you have several people in your home with abilities.
And they're all feeding this poltergeist without even knowing it.
And what can happen is that when you get upset with somebody, the poltergeist will affect that person.
So, suddenly, that person will feel like they're being smacked, pinched, punched, kicked, scratches will appear, things like that happen.
Also, you'll see strange things.
It's a result of this poltergeist manifestation from somebody in the house.
Now, she hit on a lot of things you guys are experiencing.
Lexie with the scratch.
Tell Amy what happened.
We were all getting ready to leave, you know, and she's walking down the hall and all of a sudden she's just scratched.
Tell her about, uh, pretty wild, there's the door.
Lexie was going into the kitchen to get food.
And she was almost to the kitchen but her bedroom door was sitting there opening and closing, like, fully opening and closing.
You were saying people might see strange things? Now get this, their son Zeke was telling me some crazy stuff.
I mean, green men coming outta the walls - Oh, yeah.
- Oh.
Oh, yeah.
STEVE: Could all this activity be from the poltergeist? Yes, absolutely.
STEVE: All right.
Now, there's something you gotta know about the area that they live in.
It's basically built on a copper mining business.
1994 the EPA came in and declared the area an environmental disaster zone.
- What? - Now some of the toxins in the water can cause hallucinations.
So I had everything checked in your house.
I had the soil, the water and paint.
Everything came back negative.
AMY: Yeah.
I think the kids are creating the strange visions to scare each other.
They're torturing each other.
Do they know they're doing that to each other? No, I don't think they do.
But it's subconsciously they're doing it? Yes, mm-hmm.
The strongest agent in the house, uh, of this ability is Lexie.
Wow.
I I don't know I don't know what to say.
I knew she was going through a lot but I didn't know it was like that.
If this goes unchecked what happens? AMY: It'll get more and more active, especially when she starts to go through puberty.
That's when, like, things can really get crazy.
I never in a million years would have thought that that would be it.
How violent could it get? There was one case I did where a woman had over 300 stitches.
Couches I've seen go flying across rooms, people being dragged, uh, through the house by their hair.
So this could happen here, potentially? Yes, potentially.
Yeah.
It can get pretty intense.
STEVE: So you guys called us in because you knew you had a problem.
But I'm sure you never imagined in a million years that you guys were haunting each other.
To find out how to fix it and stop it, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
What I would like to see happen is for a psychic to come in to do the initial cleansing.
And that person is going to teach you how to do it.
This is one of things that you and your children are going to need to do for the rest of your lives.
Over time, it'll remove residual energy and impressions.
So it'll be a lot quieter, a lot more peaceful.
Everybody will feel very chill.
I'm curious about one thing, the protection that went wrong.
Will these cleansings help reverse that? AMY: Yes, doing the monthly cleansings will take care of a lot of the bigger issues.
The second thing I would like to see happen would be for the psychic to remove the deceased people.
That would be the older gentleman, his main wife and the second wife, who is the teenager.
The third thing, uh, this is again something that the family will need to do together and need to keep it up.
One is hatha yoga, and then tai chi.
So that'll decrease the poltergeist activity? Oh, yes, immensely.
Saw that look on your face when you started talking about yoga and tai chi.
I I I enjoy everything.
Don't matter to me.
Let's have fun.
- Okay.
- The other thing that I would like to see happen is for Lexie to maybe see a child psychotherapist for her to learn how to open up a little bit more, how to communicate about her emotions a little bit more, which will help her learn to kind of ground out and control her energy.
I think that would be really good for her.
So, Jennie, this is gonna be a life long thing.
You up for that? I mean, it'll probably get us closer and hopefully get her to open up.
Is this something you guys are definitely gonna wanna Look into and do? Oh, yes.
- Oh, yes.
- Oh, definitely.
I have an answer and you're turning a negative - into a positive - Right.
For the family, for the house, for everybody.
AMY: Jennie and Randall have a lot of work to do if they want to rid their home of the dead and the poltergeist that they're feeding.
But with the help of a psychic and a therapist, they can work as a family to free themselves of the evil that's been tearing them apart.
I seen a shadow run towards the bathroom.
It's almost like a joint poltergeist.
They just keep beating each other.
They were chasing geese across the pond and ended up drowning.
The attacks become more violent.
I'm hearing, like, "Get out of the house.
" The blood is still flowing.
Good energy stops right here.
I just hear death.
My name is Amy Allan.
Ah.
God.
It's like, "I'm going to get you.
" I see dead people.
Her face was all demonic.
I speak to dead people.
He's like, "You think you can stop me? Because you can't.
" And they speak to me.
- What is he trying to do? - Kill them.
But there's only one way to know if my findings are real Something happened.
Bam, bam, bam.
I rely on my partner.
I'm Steve di Schiavi.
I'm retired New York City homicide detective.
Am I seeing what I think I'm seeing? And I know every person, every house, has secrets.
They everywhere.
It's my job to reveal them.
This guy's got the markings of a serial killer.
But Steve and I never speak.
We never communicate during an investigation.
Until the very end.
Is this Sted guy doing that to her? When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay That's it.
Or time to get out.
Somebody's gonna die over there soon.
Yeah.
I'm in the city of Magna, Utah just west of Salt Lake City.
Now, I took this case for two reasons.
First, the woman who called us in.
She was crying on the phone and sounded really scared.
Second, there are kids involved, three of them.
And according to their mom they are being physically and psychologically attacked by whatever's in that house.
MAN: Before Amy arrives I throw the house of any leading information.
Family photographs and other personal items can influence her findings so it's important I cover or remove them all.
When I'm finished the location will be ready for tonight's walk.
AMY: Good energy is not making it into this home.
Good energy stops right here.
Unfortunately the people who've moved into this place, uh, have not been very stable.
And because of all of that they're pulling in this negative energy.
The dead are attracted to this location because of all the drama and craziness.
I feel really horrible, sick, sick, sick.
STEVE: So, Jennie, when we spoke on the phone you sounded really upset.
The reason I took this case is because it involved children.
- Yes.
- Your kids are going through - a rough time here? - Yes, late nights with the kids.
They are not sleeping in their rooms, they're staying up.
And once I really started seeing my kids go through things - Right.
- That's when it's hard.
Especially for my youngest.
She is, like, so scared.
She tries running out of the house.
And so that's when you, like, don't know what to do anymore.
It's not anything any kid should have to go through.
No, especially when you can't explain anything to them.
Like, when they ask, you know, why or what.
And it's like you don't have really anything for them.
All right.
So who exactly lives in the house with you? That's all of us.
All right.
So who's here? This is Lexie, she's 11.
And that's Summer, she's 7.
- Okay.
- And then that's me.
That's my son Zeke.
He's 12.
- Okay.
- And then my husband.
- Okay.
- And he's 30.
And then, that's my mom.
So Jennie, has your mom always lived with you? No, we moved her in because she was having some surgeries done.
What kind of surgeries? She's had to have some surgeries to remove her brain tumor.
- Really? - This one was cancer, - like a stage two.
- Okay.
So she's had to go through radiation.
It kinda did a number on her this time.
She still gets really bad headaches sometimes.
I don't like this.
Headaches.
Constant headaches, headaches, headaches, headaches, headaches, stress, stress.
Constant stress and headaches.
There's abuse.
I think it was some time ago.
This person This is, like, a safe haven to get away from everything.
But there is no really getting away from everything.
Being in here makes it worse.
How long have you guys been living here? Since 2008.
It was a beautiful house, you know, somewhere nice to raise the kids.
So, Jennie, do you know any history on the property? - Anything? - Not a lot except for that it's a mining town.
- A mining town? - Yeah.
That's interesting to know.
Okay.
Any idea what kind of what they're mining here? It might be copper.
Okay.
All right, Jennie.
So do me a favor and give me a list of the things you guys are experiencing.
Bangs, voices and now things are moving.
And we see dark shadows.
And now it's gotten physical.
Okay.
Physical with who? My daughter Lexie.
She got scratched.
That's gotta be killing you.
She's so scared that something's gonna hurt her.
That's the hardest part.
I don't get a lot of sleep.
We do a lot of camping out in the living room.
Have you guys done anything to be proactive? Like, have you had the house blessed? - Have you done anything? - Um, we've tried blessing it ourselves.
We went and burned sage through the house - Okay.
- And, you know, salt.
Did it work? No, it actually got a lot worse.
Somebody did something out here.
Some kind of protection thing.
But it's wrong.
It wasn't done right.
It pushed all the bad, icky [bleep.]
inside.
It created this, like, suction thing that's sucking in, uh, crazy [bleep.]
.
And it's keeping good stuff out.
So, Jennie, why'd you take me into the master bedroom? This is where, um, I have experiences.
One night, I got woken up to the sheets being moved off of me and, like, somebody just touching me, like, rubbing my shoulder.
Now is there any way possible that your husband coulda been strokin' your arm? Um, no, he was sleeping facing towards the window.
Okay, physically he couldn't have done it.
No.
Anything else? - I will just be laying in bed - Okay.
And I will get woken up by a humming - electric sound.
- Okay.
And then all of a sudden these shadows will come from over there, from my dresser, and, like, they will slowly start moving into me.
And they're darker shadows.
And you can hear them whispering.
And so I'm just frozen there with them just standing over me.
You must freak out when you see this thing.
I do.
One time I said, "Okay, just take me.
" Like, I'm in full blown panic.
So, like, your heart's racing - Right.
- You're sweating, but I can't move, I can't talk.
I see a woman.
She looks like late thirties.
And she is alive, crying.
And she feels very lonely.
She feels like she's been deserted.
A lot of despair.
I saw a younger male.
He's a mess.
He's a mess.
He's done a lot of really bad things in his life.
I think he's a addict.
He's done just terrible things.
And I don't know if he lives here or if he lived here.
Uh, but I definitely got that he left a lot of energy behind.
Uh, and there was something about guns.
Seems like Jennie is having a rough time.
- Are you? - Yes.
Tell me about the experiences you've had.
I was walkin' into my room.
I seen clothes swinging and a shadow run towards the bathroom.
At the same time? - At the same time.
- And you're sure it wasn't one of the kids running through the bed room? No, they were all in school.
Okay, anything else? I walked into the laundry room and there was somebody standing there.
I asked him, "Who are you? What are you doing here?" He just stood there, blank stare at me and then gone.
He just vanished.
Okay, describe him to me.
Complete black.
Couldn't make out a face or anything.
How do you explain it? - I can't figure it out.
- Okay.
That must've scared the hell outta you.
It scares the [bleep.]
out of me is what it does.
Somebody was in here.
A living person felt their hairs stand up, turned, saw a shadow figure move.
More than once they've seen this, more than once.
The drug addict guy is projecting himself as the shadow figure.
[Shudders.]
This is a not good place.
Let me ask you a question.
How old are you? - I'm 12.
- Twelve.
So, Zeke, tell me about what you're seeing.
A green guy.
He comes through the wall and first you hear a big old bang and then I wake up and I see him.
- And it's coming from that wall.
- Here? - Yep.
- All right.
You're 12.
All right.
Are you fooling around taking any of mommy and daddy's pills or anything like that? - No.
- All right.
So you're not hallucinating when you're seeing this stuff? No.
Are you are you hearing or seeing anything else? I'm seeing a guy with a hat.
Okay.
Comes up through my ceiling in my closet.
Okay, can you see any features on this thing? - No, just the hat.
- All right.
So, anything else? Um, I've heard the chairs moving and the table moving.
Where? In in the kitchen? - Yeah.
- Okay, so when you heard it move did you go out there and check it out? - Yeah.
- And what'd you see? Nothing, I looked just as normal.
The stuff you're seeing is pretty wild for an adult to see.
Um, you realize this is not normal for a 12 year old? Yeah.
Everybody who's alive in the house, um, is like beating on each other.
It's almost, like, a joint, like, poltergeist from all these people.
They're, like, literally taking [bleep.]
Down on one another via this poltergeist.
I know they're seeing things but I can't quite see what they're seeing.
I don't know what's going on with the the ceiling.
I'm feeling like a lot of physical assaults here, and this is from living people to other living people.
It's just a [bleep.]
mess.
So, Summer, tell me, honey, how old are you? - Seven.
- So, Summer, I understand that you sleep out here most of the time, is that right? Okay, because you're afraid of your room? Mm-hmm.
Okay, do you ever seen anything when you're sleeping out here? Yeah.
I see people.
I I think they are trying to hurt me.
All right, where do you see them? In my room, in the kitchen and the bathroom.
Okay, what else are you hearing or seeing? I freak out.
My parents come upstairs and they check on me and I wake everybody up.
- Okay.
- And I was like, "Call the cops.
" You're scared of this place, huh, honey? Yeah.
Well, we're here to try to get rid of everything.
Would you like to go sleep in your own room again? Okay.
I would think that the living here are experiencing things like, you know, feeling slapped, headaches, panic attacks for sure, anxiety, punched, kicked, possible sexual assaults Very weird.
It's weird.
How old are you, honey? - I'm 11.
- Okay.
So when I talked to mom, um, she called us in basically because the stuff you're going through.
Yeah.
- Is that upsetting you? - Yeah.
So I understand you've been having some experiences.
Yeah.
Okay, can you mind telling me about them? Um, I went upstairs.
And I heard my door close, and then open and then close.
And it went on and on and on.
- Which door is this? - It was that door.
Okay, did you see it open and closing? Yes.
Yes, but could the window have been open in the bedroom that caused the door to open and shut? My dad came in and checked it out - and there was nothing in here.
- Nothing here.
Okay, have you seen or heard anything else? My dresser and my TV they were both rocking.
The dresser started going up and down? No, it started like Teetering back and forth? Mm-hmm, yeah.
The whole dresser itself? Yeah.
Did you guys think you were having a earthquake or something? No, because I didn't see anything else shaking and So it was just these two things? It was just those two things.
All right.
So anything else, honey? I got scratched right over here.
I was laying in my bed and my arm was hanging out like that.
And then there was, like, a little like that.
So this is a silly question but are you scared to be here? I'm really scared to be here.
Okay.
I'm seeing, like, a teenage girl.
Everybody's being affected.
But it's almost like like she's really getting, like, the brunt.
You know what I mean? Like, she's, like, ground zero.
She has a lot of ability.
She might be, uh, the biggest source and doesn't even know it, doesn't even know it.
So what do you think would happen, uh, if this were to continue going on and nothing was done about it? I think that the physical attacks would become more violent, uh, to where there would be, um, actual cutting or scratching involved.
And, uh, possible smothering or strangulation to occur.
STEVE: Other than a family living in fear, I don't have much to go off of to do my investigation.
So I'm at the library to see if I can dig anything up.
Searching through old records, I find one of the original owners of my clients property lost two young kids.
Turns out they both drowned in an accident.
I'm on my way to meet with a local genealogist who's looking into this tragedy for me.
She tells me the kids who drowned that day were direct descendants of a very prominent local man.
So, Christine, before we get to the drownings you mentioned that the kids were related to somebody famous.
Yes, the children's grandfather was Edward Watkins Clark.
One of the first Mormon settlers here in Utah.
Okay.
When did this guy come here? So, in 1852 he finally settled in Utah with his first wife.
All right.
So when Edward gets here - what does he do? - He was a farmer.
He was very prominent in the community.
Everyone knew him and his wife, Lucy.
He was actually elected to justice of the peace out in Santaquin.
Okay, you said his first wife.
Can I assume his first wife died? No, actually the Mormon church encouraged polygamy at this time.
And so he was encouraged to take other wives.
And in 1857 he married his second wife, Louisa Miller, who was 20 years his junior.
She was only 17 when they got married.
Seventeen? I have a picture of her when she's older.
Now does he have kids with both of them? - Yes, 18.
- Wow.
He had 10 with his first wife, Lucy, and eight with his second wife, Louisa.
The second youngest is John Edward, who is the father of the children who died.
Okay.
I'm seeing this woman and she's married to a much older male.
She was probably in her late 20s and he was, like, between 60 and 70 years of age.
He was prestigious.
He was a big time business man.
He kept fighting me because he doesn't want me here.
Uh, he doesn't want anything about him or his family out.
He wants to keep his private life secret.
Uh, and then there's a a a younger female.
And I don't know if it's his step-daughter or if it's his biological daughter.
The girl doesn't look like either one of them at all.
The daughter is like 16 or something.
Um, and he was having an inappropriate relationship with her and also very abusive and controlling.
I guess you would wanna keep that quiet.
So I know Edward's son, John, owned my clients' property at one point.
Do you know when that was? 1923 is when he bought the property out in Magna.
Okay, so now how many kids did he have? He had eight children in total.
He had three girls and five little boys.
Okay, so take me through the day of the accident.
- What happened? - Uh, it was January 2, 1926.
It was a day a lot like today where the sun is out and all the snow is on the ground and the pond probably looked a lot like this, very frozen.
Three of the little boys, Floydd, Morris and Lennis, all take their friend Clarence out.
And they were chasing geese across the pond but it was too thin and all the boys fell through.
Wow.
And Clarence was able to help Floydd out of the water but Morris and Lennis ended up drowning.
I have their death certificates.
So this is Morris Ruden, and his death certificate even says, "Accidental drowning.
" Okay.
And then Lennis Dean, same thing.
All right, so they lost two kids to drowning.
Tragic.
I mean, I can't even imagine losing one - let alone two.
- Yeah.
So what happened with with John? I mean, did him and his wife stick around - after this happened? - They did.
John actually did not release the property until 1953 is when he sold it actually a few months before he died, when his heart collapsed.
Okay.
I do see a different house, uh, that was here prior.
This house took up several acres of property.
I'm hearing a woman screaming and crying.
And it's over a death.
She's outside.
It might be in the backyard or something.
This person couldn't get over it.
Uh, can't can't get over it.
She's like, "Why? Why?" Very dramatic.
Uh, like, her hands are up, like, "Why? Why? Why? No, no, no.
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Jennie told me she thought there used to be a lot of copper mining in the area.
So I made some calls and it turns out she's right.
I'm meeting a historian who says mining killed two men who live on my clients' land.
So, Robert, what can you tell me about the mining industry in Magna? Well Magna actually started out as a farming community.
- Okay.
- But it wasn't until 1906 that the Utah Copper Company brought in the the biggest, uh, refining and smelting, uh, operation in world history at the time.
Millions of tons of ore was being processed every year.
So it's basically all copper? Mostly copper, that's what they're renowned for.
You can talk about a real dangerous work environment.
It was very dangerous, uh, very toxic environment.
- Okay.
- A lot of sulfuric emissions, heavy metal particulates and even asbestos.
So the odds are stacked against you.
So you had mentioned on the phone, uh, two guys that lived on my clients' property, uh, died in connection with the mining.
Tell me about the first guy.
First guys name is Wallace Anderson.
- Okay.
- He bought your clients' property in 1936.
So what happened to him? Well, by 1944 it catches up to him.
Uh, he's in your clients' house.
He's feeling pain in his lungs.
He's having trouble breathing.
He checks himself into the hospital.
He's there for 12 days.
And he dies.
Okay, so what's the official cause of death? It's bronchogenic carcinoma.
It's lung cancer.
Pretty common way to go for mine workers back then.
It was.
Now, Robert, you mentioned there was a second guy that died on my clients' property.
Right.
Who, uh, who was that? His name was Paul William Confer.
He was actually renting the property from Wallace's widow.
Okay, so what happened? In 1948, he goes down inside the mine in a blasting team - with another fella - Okay.
And they never came out with the other groups.
And so they sent a search party down there and discovered that they'd been killed.
They were killed in an explosion.
And here's his death certificate.
Subtotal decapitation, amputation both arms, puncture wounds both legs.
Did they ever figure out what caused the explosion? - Either a faulty fuse - Okay.
Or it was negligence on the part of the miners.
Geez.
Are the mines still going on? Yeah.
The mine is still running today.
So I'm assuming it's a cleaner operation today? It is.
In 1994 the EPA stepped in and declared Magna an environmental disaster zone.
After 100 years of industry, uh, the water was contaminated.
The soil was contaminated.
What kinds of effects could that have on somebody? Today still the lung cancer rate is 50 percent greater than the rest of the state.
And not only cancer but high rates of ADD, autism, delirium and even hallucinations.
Really? That's interesting.
There's a lot of residual energy here.
I saw on the land that everything was built on blood.
And I see the blood is still flowing.
Uh, and they said it was built and blood and dirty dealings and that both of those things are still happening today.
And that's why the blood is still flowing.
[Shudders.]
This is a not good place.
Look, if contaminated water can cause hallucinations it could explain some of the really strange things Jennie and her family are seeing.
I'm heading back to the house to meet an inspector who's going to give the water a thorough, scientific test.
- Hey, Jonathan.
- How's it goin'? Thanks for coming by.
I appreciate it.
Yeah.
You bet.
The reason I called you out is my clients that live in this house, they're telling me that they're seeing some really off the wall, bizarre stuff.
Now I know this place in '94 was considered - a EPA disaster area.
- That's correct.
I mean, all along the Wasatch Front we see a number of locations that have had some kind of environmental hazards, uh, primarily due to the proximity of local mines in the area.
Now, could you test to see if there's any kind of environmental problem that could cause these people to have hallucinations? Yeah.
Absolutely.
Okay, good.
Let me know what you find.
Will do.
I've clients seeing things moving on their own and green men coming out of the walls which means there are three possibilities.
One, they're lying to me.
But I don't think that's the case.
Two, their soil or water is contaminated causing them to hallucinate.
Or three, there's something going on that only Amy can understand.
So, how'd it go? Well we tested the soil, uh, the water as well as the paint on the walls and we didn't find any contaminants.
Really? So there's no environmental reason why clients are seeing what the hell they're seeing? - No.
- Okay.
So now I know what it's not.
I saw a lot of disturbing activity during my walk.
But the drug addict who projects himself as the shadow figure really stood out.
He was young, I would say between 18 and 24.
He had a very narrow, uh, nose.
He also had very dark eyes, kinda black.
Is this who you saw? Yes.
STEVE: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, we're ready to reveal our findings to each other and our clients for the first time.
So, Amy, I want you to meet Randall and Jennie.
They're experiencing some pretty bizarre stuff in their house.
But the reason they called us in is because of their kids.
We got a photo of the family here.
Now, this is Lexie, she's 11.
This is Summer, she's an adorable 7-year-old.
This is their Zeke, who's 12.
And this is, uh, Jennie's mom, Debbie, who lives with them.
These guys think that whatever's in the house is going after the kids.
And they promised me they'll do whatever it takes to keep them safe.
So now that Amy knows a little bit about your family, I'm going to, uh, ask her to describe her walk.
AMY: Walking up to your home, to the front door, I saw a male, uh, doing some kind of ritual or protection.
Who ever this was, and whatever he did, was not good.
It created a type of negative suction into your house.
And unfortunately all good energy stops right at your front door.
That's weird because I don't know about a male, but you mentioned to me that you guys did something.
Yeah.
Me and my mother-in-law, we tried to cleanse the house with, like, sage and salt.
Now she's talking about negativity.
Have you guys felt that in the house? Sometimes when you just come home it just just doesn't feel right.
It doesn't feel like home.
Wow.
STEVE: So what else did you see? I encountered an elderly deceased male.
What he was saying to me was that when he was alive he was very prestigious.
He was a big player.
He absolutely did not want me there.
What I did get was that there were two women, uh, of importance in his life.
One was his wife.
The wife was much younger than him.
She was in her twenties.
And then one was a younger girl.
And I didn't know if that was his daughter or step-daughter.
And the girl was about 16.
And what I did get was that there was an inappropriate relationship between him and the younger girl.
And I felt like that's what he was trying to conceal.
He's very grouchy, very controlling.
And when he is inside of the home the men of the house may take on these kinds of attitudes.
Well, Jennie, have you noticed that with Randall or Zeke? Yeah.
Big time.
I came across somebody in my research that might fit the bill.
His name was Edward Watkins Clark.
You had mentioned he was prestigious.
He was a famous pioneer for the Mormon church.
He came over from England in 1852.
He brought his wife Lucy over with his kids.
Now you mentioned a teenage girl that might be his daughter or a step-daughter.
Well back in those days they preached polygamy.
He was 37.
And he married his girl, Louisa, who was, uh, 17 at the time.
Now I got a photo of her but this is from when she was much older.
Now together with his two wives he had 18 kids.
The 17th child, named John, ended up living on your property.
AMY: The next thing that I saw is a younger male.
And I honestly couldn't tell if he was alive or dead.
If he is deceased it was extremely recent.
He was in the downstairs, large, downstairs bedroom.
He was very agitated.
He felt like everybody was out to get him.
He felt like he was falling apart.
The living, who would be down there a lot, would feel this sense of despair or depression.
And I think if you were to see him it would be a shadow-like figure.
Now, Jennie, you had your own experiences with shadow figures? - Yeah.
- Tell her what you told me.
And I'll just be right there, by my dresser, and then he'll come towards me.
But then I'm stuck in my bed.
And I'm just frozen.
I'm sweating, breathing hard, just can't do anything.
Randall, didn't you see another one leering at you at one point? I asked him, "Who are you? What do you want?" - Mm-hmm.
- It just looked at me - Mm-hmm.
- Then gone, just vanished.
STEVE: Did you get anything about this guy in life? AMY: What I got on him was that he was, I think, in his twenties.
He claimed to have done a lot of terrible things during his lifetime.
I just see him with a rifle and a small handgun.
And I did get that he was an addict and/or fighting addiction.
I got a sense that he did live here.
And like I said, if he still alive, he essentially left part of himself.
STEVE: Did you get a good look at him? - I had a sketch done.
- Okay.
Maybe you guys can tell me if they he looks like anybody that you might know.
- My brother.
- Yeah.
My brother's sittin' in jail right now.
What? Any issues with guns and stuff that she's talking about? Yeah.
He he loves guns.
This is pretty wild.
So let me get this straight, it's possible for somebody who's not dead to haunt the house? AMY: Sometimes people will really leave a, like, really a part of themselves there.
This has gotta be tough for you to hear though? Yeah.
Very.
STEVE: So what else? AMY: I went into the pink room.
And I got a horrible headache.
It was overwhelming.
And I felt like a woman stays there, goes there, feels like the room is a safe haven to get away from everything.
But it's not.
And she keeps feeling pain from life loss.
I got loss, abuse and death.
When she's in there, it just feels like it's all happening again and again.
Well that's the room where Jennie's mom, Debbie, sleeps.
Um, my mom has had a couple brain surgeries.
Oh, wow.
And the last one was a stage two cancer.
So she does get headaches a lot.
So what she's saying kinda makes sense? Yeah.
She's been through a lot.
STEVE: Now'd you see anything else? So the thing I'm most concerned about is the poltergeist activity in the house.
A poltergeist is usually created by one living agent who has abilities.
But in your case it's unusual because you have several people in your home with abilities.
And they're all feeding this poltergeist without even knowing it.
And what can happen is that when you get upset with somebody, the poltergeist will affect that person.
So, suddenly, that person will feel like they're being smacked, pinched, punched, kicked, scratches will appear, things like that happen.
Also, you'll see strange things.
It's a result of this poltergeist manifestation from somebody in the house.
Now, she hit on a lot of things you guys are experiencing.
Lexie with the scratch.
Tell Amy what happened.
We were all getting ready to leave, you know, and she's walking down the hall and all of a sudden she's just scratched.
Tell her about, uh, pretty wild, there's the door.
Lexie was going into the kitchen to get food.
And she was almost to the kitchen but her bedroom door was sitting there opening and closing, like, fully opening and closing.
You were saying people might see strange things? Now get this, their son Zeke was telling me some crazy stuff.
I mean, green men coming outta the walls - Oh, yeah.
- Oh.
Oh, yeah.
STEVE: Could all this activity be from the poltergeist? Yes, absolutely.
STEVE: All right.
Now, there's something you gotta know about the area that they live in.
It's basically built on a copper mining business.
1994 the EPA came in and declared the area an environmental disaster zone.
- What? - Now some of the toxins in the water can cause hallucinations.
So I had everything checked in your house.
I had the soil, the water and paint.
Everything came back negative.
AMY: Yeah.
I think the kids are creating the strange visions to scare each other.
They're torturing each other.
Do they know they're doing that to each other? No, I don't think they do.
But it's subconsciously they're doing it? Yes, mm-hmm.
The strongest agent in the house, uh, of this ability is Lexie.
Wow.
I I don't know I don't know what to say.
I knew she was going through a lot but I didn't know it was like that.
If this goes unchecked what happens? AMY: It'll get more and more active, especially when she starts to go through puberty.
That's when, like, things can really get crazy.
I never in a million years would have thought that that would be it.
How violent could it get? There was one case I did where a woman had over 300 stitches.
Couches I've seen go flying across rooms, people being dragged, uh, through the house by their hair.
So this could happen here, potentially? Yes, potentially.
Yeah.
It can get pretty intense.
STEVE: So you guys called us in because you knew you had a problem.
But I'm sure you never imagined in a million years that you guys were haunting each other.
To find out how to fix it and stop it, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
What I would like to see happen is for a psychic to come in to do the initial cleansing.
And that person is going to teach you how to do it.
This is one of things that you and your children are going to need to do for the rest of your lives.
Over time, it'll remove residual energy and impressions.
So it'll be a lot quieter, a lot more peaceful.
Everybody will feel very chill.
I'm curious about one thing, the protection that went wrong.
Will these cleansings help reverse that? AMY: Yes, doing the monthly cleansings will take care of a lot of the bigger issues.
The second thing I would like to see happen would be for the psychic to remove the deceased people.
That would be the older gentleman, his main wife and the second wife, who is the teenager.
The third thing, uh, this is again something that the family will need to do together and need to keep it up.
One is hatha yoga, and then tai chi.
So that'll decrease the poltergeist activity? Oh, yes, immensely.
Saw that look on your face when you started talking about yoga and tai chi.
I I I enjoy everything.
Don't matter to me.
Let's have fun.
- Okay.
- The other thing that I would like to see happen is for Lexie to maybe see a child psychotherapist for her to learn how to open up a little bit more, how to communicate about her emotions a little bit more, which will help her learn to kind of ground out and control her energy.
I think that would be really good for her.
So, Jennie, this is gonna be a life long thing.
You up for that? I mean, it'll probably get us closer and hopefully get her to open up.
Is this something you guys are definitely gonna wanna Look into and do? Oh, yes.
- Oh, yes.
- Oh, definitely.
I have an answer and you're turning a negative - into a positive - Right.
For the family, for the house, for everybody.
AMY: Jennie and Randall have a lot of work to do if they want to rid their home of the dead and the poltergeist that they're feeding.
But with the help of a psychic and a therapist, they can work as a family to free themselves of the evil that's been tearing them apart.